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fireftr18
12-22-13, 09:27 PM
My family and I are watching the movie and a question came up. We know that VonTrapp was a real person and sure the whole family was real. How much of the movie is true?
frau kaleun
12-22-13, 09:52 PM
My family and I are watching the movie and a question came up. We know that VonTrapp was a real person and sure the whole family was real. How much of the movie is true?
A lot was changed for the movie version. You can find a fairly decent bio of Maria here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_von_Trapp
One notable difference is that the marriage (at least initially) was not the romantic love match portrayed in the movie. Maria wanted to be a nun more than anything but married the Captain for the sake of the children and because the abbess told her it was "God's will" that she do so. They were also married for over a decade prior to fleeing Austria, and Maria had two children by the Captain during that time (another would follow after they fled the country).
They also fled to Italy (and then the US), not Switzerland, and I've read that if they'd done what they are portrayed as doing in the movie geography-wise they would've ended up even deeper in the heart of Nazi country, not neutral Switzerland, so the whole "escape over the mountains" thing was a dramatic invention.
They did get it right that Captain von Trapp had served with some renown in WWI, for his bio check here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Johannes_von_Trapp
He also wrote a book about his naval service in that war which I haven't read but I've been told it's quite good.
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Salute-Memories-Austrian-Commander/dp/0803213506/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1387767137&sr=1-1&keywords=Georg+Johannes+von+Trapp
Cybermat47
12-22-13, 10:07 PM
They also fled to Italy (and then the US), not Switzerland, and I've read that if they'd done what they are portrayed as doing in the movie geography-wise they would've ended up even deeper in the heart of Nazi country, not neutral Switzerland, so the whole "escape over the mountains" thing was a dramatic invention.
I haven't seen the movie, but I remember seeing a cartoon in a history classroom at my school that showed the family in the middle of a Nuremburg rally :haha:
fireftr18
12-22-13, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the replies. In other searching, I found this:
http://www.trappfamily.com/activities/historytours
Further looking, I found this:
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/winter/von-trapps.html
So the basic story is true. There are some big detail changes, mostly for entertainment purposes.
Jimbuna
12-23-13, 03:54 AM
Despite the artistic licence (heaven forbid) it was always one of my favourite movies as a kid and Julie Andrews was stunning :sunny:
An excellent response frau if I may say so.
Sailor Steve
12-23-13, 11:15 AM
Never seen it.
Never seen it. Not too late yet Steve :)
em2nought
12-23-13, 12:42 PM
Not too late yet Steve :)
Yes, everyone deserves to have those songs running around in their head. :D
Jimbuna
12-23-13, 12:56 PM
Never seen it.
The tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE3cTqYfb0c&list=PL05B01E35E71E30D5
Yes, everyone deserves to have those songs running around in their head. :D
LOL :)
Never seen it.
I envy you! This film is always a constant here on national television on Xmas day! Some comedy shows already got the sketch of a the "old person" living on the hill or something, that only knows that is Xmas when on TV The Sound Of Music airs or/and it's new year eve, because Home Alone 1 or 2 airs (since that was the "traditional movie for that time here on TV)! And when those films will air on June or July, poor "mr. something" would be confuse!
Abouth the thread original question, a few years back, the history channel had a documentary/biography about the Von Trapp family and the film. Almost every thing of the film is fiction/hollywood version of the true story.
The original Maria e a very small cameo on the film, it is the old lady that pass by Julie Andrews when shes exit the convent to go to the Von Trapp family!
Oh well, at least some ppl see the movie to see General Chang when young!:D
They also fled to Italy (and then the US), not Switzerland, and I've read that if they'd done what they are portrayed as doing in the movie geography-wise they would've ended up even deeper in the heart of Nazi country, not neutral Switzerland, so the whole "escape over the mountains" thing was a dramatic invention.
Also, the Swiss, while neutral, were prone to return to Germany those who crossed the border if they were wanted by the Reich. This included Jews, political "criminals", deserters, and others. The Swiss apparently did not want to rile the ire of the Reich...
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Oh well, at least some ppl see the movie to see General Chang when young!:D
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Doe, a deer, a female deers of war!
Sailor Steve
12-23-13, 03:14 PM
Yes, everyone deserves to have those songs running around in their head. :D
I sang in choirs in high school. I have a lot of musical numbers running around my head from shows I've never seen. That's part of the reason I've never seen 'em. :yep:
Tango589
12-23-13, 03:17 PM
Cry Havoc! And let slip the Doe, a deer, a female deers of war!
:har:
My family and I are watching the movie and a question came up. We know that VonTrapp was a real person and sure the whole family was real. How much of the movie is true?
All I know is that all the songs were truly awful.
Madox58
12-23-13, 04:55 PM
All I know is that if I'm asked if I was ever abused as a child?
I have to answer...
"Yes. My Mom made me watch 'The sound of Music' when I was a child."
:nope:
Jimbuna
12-23-13, 05:04 PM
All I know is that all the songs were truly awful.
You were allowed a radio in your cell!! :o
You were allowed a radio in your cell!! :o
Only during the hours of darkness.
All I know is that all the songs were truly awful.
Well that depends ...
My Favourite Things, the ... other version :yep: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWG2dsXV5HI)
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Jimbuna
12-23-13, 05:12 PM
The film ranks up there with many another successful music I should imagine
The only version I could stand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuklqJD3v0c
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The only version I could stand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuklqJD3v0c
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That's about how I remember it.
Madox58
12-23-13, 05:41 PM
The only version I could stand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuklqJD3v0c
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:nope:
I now must puncture my ear drums that I may never be assaulted like this again!
Thanks alot!
:haha:
Jimbuna
12-24-13, 04:23 AM
BLASPHEMY!! :o
BLASPHEMY!! :o
No this writing, singing and recording of this, is blasphemy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgWeNEHcsh8
I defy you to get it out of your head once you've heard it.
Jimbuna
12-24-13, 05:50 AM
LOL...Reunion of the Von Trapps (Oprah)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqMmI40e5bc
Wolferz
12-24-13, 09:28 AM
The hills are alive....
RUN!!!!
fireftr18
12-24-13, 10:40 AM
The only version I could stand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuklqJD3v0c
<O>
:har:
A friend of my wife is in a band that does British only music, and they joke around while playing. I picture them doing something like this.
By the way, the call themselves The Twiggenbury's and they each have a stage persona.
Jimbuna
12-24-13, 12:04 PM
:har:
A friend of my wife is in a band that does British only music, and they joke around while playing. I picture them doing something like this.
By the way, the call themselves The Twiggenbury's and they each have a stage persona.
There's obviously more than one sharing the name then :hmmm:
The Twiggenburys - Daydream Believer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZF1H0ocCfQ
oh yeah, I remember also this version:
http://animediet.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/picnic.jpg
And you know that every anime has a hentai version...:huh: :O:
fireftr18
12-25-13, 01:12 PM
There's obviously more than one sharing the name then :hmmm:
The Twiggenburys - Daydream Believer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZF1H0ocCfQ
Not only is that them, I can tell you exactly where that clip was made. I can even tell you where the person filming was sitting. :har:
Jimbuna
12-26-13, 08:06 AM
Nice one :)
A friend of my wife is in a band that does British only music, and they joke around while playing. I picture them doing something like this.
By the way, the call themselves The Twiggenbury's and they each have a stage persona.
THe band in the clip I posted is The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band aka THe Bonzo Dog Band aka The Bonzos. The were around in the late 60s and early 70s. IIRC, they also had a TV show in Britain, a childen's show, I believe. They put out about a half dozen or so albums, all with amazingly demented humor. Since your wife's friend is a musician, she might like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcrUuCDFLOQ
THe Bonzo's probable high point came when Paul McCartney (the Beatles were all big Bonzo fans) produced a hit single for the Bonzos, "Im The Urban Spaceman" written by Neil Innes who later went on to become a member of and the main songwriter for Monty Python. The Bonzos were really the precursors of Monty Python and one of their later performances included some of the soon to become Pythons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4ekBi5Hhc
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fireftr18
12-26-13, 09:16 PM
THe band in the clip I posted is The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band aka THe Bonzo Dog Band aka The Bonzos. The were around in the late 60s and early 70s. IIRC, they also had a TV show in Britain, a childen's show, I believe. They put out about a half dozen or so albums, all with amazingly demented humor. Since your wife's friend is a musician, she might like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcrUuCDFLOQ
Copied the url, and will share it with him. Thanks.
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