About wiring

[Skybird]

Preaching this since years, and for people even just occasionally reading a bit on neurological and brain science, nothing all that new at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25198063

This will make reality-denying genderists and man-hating ultra-feminists and fascist political correctness fetishists once again fuming. I shall find the sound of popping heads most amusing. There is too much damage done already in legislation and education, coming from denial of essential differences between boy and girl. People do not get born as tabula rasas, and their being of "male" or "female" is not the result of cultural circumstances and education alone.

For the most, typical mentality and cognitive differences are - GENETIC. Considering the very heart of evolution theory, this is again no surprise at all.

[VipertheSniper]

I guess I'd have to read the study itself, but from the reports I've read, the cause for the different wiring wasn't established in the study.

[Tribesman]

How will the man hating reality defying genderist feminist fascists be having fuminghead popping when they often say that men can't multi task?:doh:
Your rant makes no sense, perhaps its your wiring:rotfl2:
Anyway I thought all that blank slate stuff was from people like Aristotle Locke and Aquinas, not exactly noted feminist genderists are they?

[Skybird]

The point is it is not the first claiming that there is a material difference on the neurological level. And the other point is that even the established material differences get denied in their existence, to match wanted ideological purposes.

Just watch little children play, girls and boys. They play differently, from early childhood on. And they are interested in different things, from early childhood on. The different playing styles and playing interests correspond with the different roles men and women played over the past several tens of thousands of years. And political ideologists claim that this has not left traces in our genetic code, and can be ignored and denied or treated and manipulated from one century to the next!?

:haha:

Speaking on the general trend. Single exceptions observed are not suitable to defy a statistically described trend. People who come with a single case description to counter a statistic they do not like, have not understood what a statistic is, and what it does, and what its aim is.

(not meaning you, Viper, but talking generally).

[Tchocky]

This will make reality-denying genderists and man-hating ultra-feminists and fascist political correctness fetishists once again fuming. I shall find the sound of popping heads most amusing.

Have you been hacked by a Skybird parody account?

[Tribesman]

Have you been hacked by a Skybird parody account?
Surely a parody account would have included something about the EU and muslims

[VipertheSniper]

So your point is essentially: We can't achieve true equality between all genders in our lifetimes so we might as well not even try?

At least that's what I got out of your little rant.

[Aktungbby]

"Sex related neurological disorders and broad generalizations"...WOLFERTZ!!! take over here!:timeout::doh::o:88):huh: How come when I have a headache,:nope: it 's not the same as when she has a headache?:dead:

[Aktungbby]

At least that's what I got out of your little rant.

"He rants best who rants last!" :har::woot:

[Jimbuna]

Let's not go stirring the pot or fanning the fire if you please.

[Aktungbby]

I'll qwertiously moderate myself SIRE:O::smug::shucks:

[Skybird]

So your point is essentially: We can't achieve true equality between all genders in our lifetimes so we might as well not even try?

At least that's what I got out of your little rant.
I never said that here or elsewhere, nor did I ever indicate that. But we have a tremendous and still growing abuse of boys and men in an education system and a social climate that under influence of feminifascism does not want that much equality before the law, but matriarchalic dominance over the male. Also it must be explained in how far this works hand in hand with left policies to destroy the institution family and replace it with state care, and the offending mothers and the minimising of the life achievement that a mother accomplishes, this again in order to erode the fundament of family life even more.

Some weeks ago I even linked an open letter by a Green (!) politician, a woman, who bitterly attacked her party for having pissed and mocked about mothers and families, calling this one of the key reasons why the Greens lost tremendously in last German elections.

Men and women tick differently. And genderists deny that and claim there are no genetic fundaments for differences but differences all are due to culture and education, and any boy or girl can be made to tick like a boy or girl as desired. And feminists say women tick much better and men are evil tickers. Pointing out the pointlessness and absurdity of this is what you should take from my "rant". Not more, not less.

[Wolferz]

So, the ladies have criss crossed wiring?

Must be why I've met so many who display dual personalities. Sweeter than Bee pollen one minute and raging killer bees the next.

[Tchocky]

I never said that here or elsewhere, nor did I ever indicate that. But we have a tremendous and still growing abuse of boys and men in an education system and a social climate that under influence of feminifascism does not want that much equality before the law, but matriarchalic dominance over the male. Also it must be explained in how far this works hand in hand with left policies to destroy the institution family and replace it with state care, and the offending mothers and the minimising of the life achievement that a mother accomplishes, this again in order to erode the fundament of family life even more.

Some weeks ago I even linked an open letter by a Green (!) politician, a woman, who bitterly attacked her party for having pissed and mocked about mothers and families, calling this one of the key reasons why the Greens lost tremendously in last German elections.

Men and women tick differently. And genderists deny that and claim there are no genetic fundaments for differences but differences all are due to culture and education, and any boy or girl can be made to tick like a boy or girl as desired. And feminists say women tick much better and men are evil tickers. Pointing out the pointlessness and absurdity of this is what you should take from my "rant". Not more, not less.

Stop it, you're killing me!

[VipertheSniper]

I guess I'm not listening to radical enough feminists as I've haven't heard a single word about establishing a matriarchy.
I'm also wondering what that tremendous abuse it is you talk about. If there's a push in schools or in general, the education system, to get boys and men to accept girls and women as their "masters", the radical feminists are doing a very poor job in pushing their agenda.


That ever recurring theme of erosion of family values, destroying of families, letting mothers not be mothers. What you see as an attack on families or mothers, I see as giving them a choice to do what suits them best. It's not like anybody is forcing them to give their child(ren) into day care. If the mother can live with her choice, who's to tell her she's wrong? That's also one thing feminism is fighting for, not shaming women for their choices.



Can't comment on that letter, as it didn't make the news here and I have not read when you posted it, maybe you could provide the link or the name of the politician?

Men and women tick differently. And genderists deny that and claim there are no genetic fundaments for differences but differences all are due to culture and education, and any boy or girl can be made to tick like a boy or girl as desired.

How about some citations? I mean what you wrote sounds patently absurd, I would like to know who, in all seriousness, makes such a claim, which could only be proven if you had free reign to try that out.

And feminists say women tick much better and men are evil tickers.

Feminists say..., yeah all of them or just the most radical? You know to be a feminist, or member of any other group that fights for a cause, you don't have to agree with all views of the most radical to call yourself one of them.

[Tchocky]

You must be one of THEM

[Tribesman]

You must be one of THEM
Not THEM!!!!!
Bloody hell, those THEM get everywhere nowadays, honestly you can't swing a cat these days without it hitting a genderistifeminifasctisti, the world is overrun with THEM, something really needs to be done about it
right NOW.

[Wolferz]

Fem Nazis have a vagenda and it ain't a good one. :03::timeout:

[Aktungbby]

the cause for the different wiring wasn't established in the study.

"He rants best who rants last!"

women tick much better and men are evil tickers. ... "rant". Not more, not less.

Stop it, you're killing me!

a vagenda and it ain't a good one.

Talk about a bad wire act...I saw the Flying Vagendas one time...it wasn't pretty and the women Vagendas were'nt tick'n much better... all the way down:dead: at least now this thread has some gravitas!

[Jimbuna]

You must be one of THEM

Couldn't possibly comment, unlike one or two of....THEM.

[August]

I thought this thread was about Ohms Law. I'm leaving disappointed. :nope::)

[Jimbuna]

I thought this thread was about Ohms Law. I'm leaving disappointed. :nope::)

Far too much resistance :)

[Wolferz]

Yep, when it comes to the fair sex and George Simon Ohm...

Resistance is futile and the sparks still fly when you short the wires.:woot:

[Cybermat47]

So, the ladies have criss crossed wiring?

Must be why I've met so many who display dual personalities. Sweeter than Bee pollen one minute and raging killer bees the next.

You're lucky. Most I've met are really annoying :dead:

Doesn't stop me from asking them out though ;)

[Platapus]

It's not all that complicated

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21400000/Control-Panel-battle-of-the-sexes-21402319-500-400.png

oh :oops:

[CaptainMattJ.]

I guess I'm not listening to radical enough feminists as I've haven't heard a single word about establishing a matriarchy.
I'm also wondering what that tremendous abuse it is you talk about. If there's a push in schools or in general, the education system, to get boys and men to accept girls and women as their "masters", the radical feminists are doing a very poor job in pushing their agenda.


That ever recurring theme of erosion of family values, destroying of families, letting mothers not be mothers. What you see as an attack on families or mothers, I see as giving them a choice to do what suits them best. It's not like anybody is forcing them to give their child(ren) into day care. If the mother can live with her choice, who's to tell her she's wrong? That's also one thing feminism is fighting for, not shaming women for their choices.



Can't comment on that letter, as it didn't make the news here and I have not read when you posted it, maybe you could provide the link or the name of the politician?



How about some citations? I mean what you wrote sounds patently absurd, I would like to know who, in all seriousness, makes such a claim, which could only be proven if you had free reign to try that out.



Feminists say..., yeah all of them or just the most radical? You know to be a feminist, or member of any other group that fights for a cause, you don't have to agree with all views of the most radical to call yourself one of them.
You really haven't spent enough time around or met enough radical feminists. I, on the other hand, was raised by one. I may love my mother but shes an insufferable person. Among a laundry list of deplorable character traits and behavior patterns, she always used to rant on and on and on about how evil men were and how all we cared about was our penises, and did indeed suggest that woman would be far more capable if there WAS a matriarchy. Whenever a viagra commercial came on she got all pissed off and started ranting about how the "old men with smurf pills" thought they can still sleep with 20 year olds and old men are perverts yadda yadda yadda. The sad part is that im not even embellishing what she did, she really did rant about that crap.

And if one was inclined to create a tumblr, you'd see the infinite stupidity of the many, MANY self-righteous, pretentious activists (that includes ALOT of feminists) that go around on tumblr and do nothing but rant and criticize and hate and spew hypocritical bull.

So yes, radical feminists are larger in number than you think. And based upon my many personal encounters, they tend to be insufferable people who deliberately misinterpret, misconstrue, over-analyze, hyperbolize, embellish, and blow things way out of proportion so as to paint society as this grotesque patriarchy whose goal is to oppress woman.

Those are the kinds of people i do not tolerate in the slightest. Feminism is supposed to be about woman getting fair and equal treatment, not about establishing dominance or shaming men. Many of the "problems" that these radicals cry bloody murder about are non-issues that are twisted to push the idea that woman are oh so oppressed still in this day and age, when the vast majority of these "problems" affect both men AND woman. An example would be the many times ive heard woman complain about how fashion models hold woman to impossible standards like size zero waists and such, and how that standard is a product of our "patriarchal society", when men are similarly held to the standard that you have to have a six pack and wicked biceps to be considered "good looking" in a general sense.

The feminists i respect are the ones that shoot for moderate and equal goals, such as helping fight domestic abuse against woman, and an increase in woman's self-respect so they dont get used and abused. We should learn to embrace the slight differences between men and women as unique characteristics, and that no gender is above the other.

[Platapus]

I can take ANY group/organization in the world; find some extreme position of that group; and focus on that extreme position to generalize back to the original group. It's easy and happens all the time on the Internets Tubes. Subsim.com even has a forum dedicated to this -- GT. :D

Fringe elements and radical viewpoints can not be used logically to define an entire group. The fact that the viewpoints ARE standing out should be a clue. :)

I have never, in my life, known of any sizable group/organization in which I agreed 100% with. But I support a good number of organizations.

Captmattj, Unfortunately, it sounds like your mother had some issues. It also sounds like your mother self-identified as a "feminist". However, logically we can't take these two discrete pieces of information and make a statement that ALL feminists are like your mother. We can't even make the claim that the majority of feminists are like your mother. We don't even know if other feminists would consider your mother a feminist. :nope:

I would opine that there is a good number of feminists that vehemently disagree with the opinions of your mother.

[Skybird]

For the record, I form my views on these things by things see here in Germany and the German culture and educational system, as well as inner politics and lobbyism. Of course, there also is the EU, and Sweden, who also push for these paths that in the end are an offense to and discrimination of BOTH sexes. Things may not be as intense in the US, or maybe they are - I cannot judge that. But one should know that strong impulses for genderism and man-hating feminism last but not least are coming from the US movements and political trends, too. Several key names in these branches, are Americans.

Equality before the law - yes. Claiming cognitive, biological, psychological equality and the total arbitrariness of gender role identification by the individual - that just a joke based on ignorance and lacking education, it is not funny at all, but causing a lot of problems, damages, and injustice.

[Penguin]

Fem Nazis have a vagenda and it ain't a good one. :03::timeout:
:haha:

On the other hand, mascunazis want to establish a dicktatorship. :know:

[mapuc]

Haven' been reading every post in this thread, if my post is a double please erase it.

There is a very high possibility, there will be a diplomatic crisis between Sweden and Russia. It's big news in Sweden.

This Snowden-person have revealed that the Swedish Intelligence(FRA) have on NSA behalf spied on top political Russians

Markus

[VipertheSniper]

Haven' been reading every post in this thread, if my post is a double please erase it.

There is a very high possibility, there will be a diplomatic crisis between Sweden and Russia. It's big news in Sweden.

This Snowden-person have revealed that the Swedish Intelligence(FRA) have on NSA behalf spied on top political Russians

Markus

Oh boy... you really should have.

[mapuc]

Oh boy... you really should have.


I see that now :oops::oops: