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This was new to me
Have always thought that our origin was either from the apes or we was created by a God.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html
Markus
Stealhead
11-30-13, 02:57 PM
Seems legit.
Betonov
11-30-13, 03:05 PM
Dogs look up on us, cats look down upon us, only pigs see us as equal ~ W. Churchill I believe
As Stealhead wrote "Seems legit"
when you look at how the human race behave against each other and against animals.
Markus
Jimbuna
11-30-13, 03:28 PM
Well I've known quite a few people in my time that have reminded me of chimps or pigs.
Catfish
11-30-13, 03:40 PM
Well i'm not sure whether this means what was posted in the link of the OP, even if the dna may be the same - we 'humans' share almost 100 percent of the dna code with worms, it just depends on which pairs of the chromosomes are switched on and off, chemically.
We are not the successors of apes. Darwin never said this b.t.w..
Apes and us have the same predecessors, way back in the past.
And of course humans are 'animals', just of 'human' species. Within millions of other species on earth. I am always astonished how one can see this differently.
I have a very intelligent friend, know him since decades and thought i would 'know' him, in a way. When it turned out eating our Pizza in an open air restaurant, i suddenly realized he did not know all those blinking lights in the sky were other suns, just like our sun. Of course, we seldomly need this knowledge to follow our daily routine, or being a banker :)
Madox58
11-30-13, 03:55 PM
There's ample proof on the 'Net that some people come from the 'Ass'.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01496/donkey-532_1496020a.jpg
u crank
11-30-13, 03:59 PM
There's ample proof on the 'Net that some people come from the 'Ass'.
:har:
Aktungbby
11-30-13, 04:13 PM
"But men are pigs and love their gryllic state" Circe- the Odyssey by Homer; As on previous posts...modified Sasquatch ...but I have an open mind here.. not a mandingo fantasy but a Chimp (or Bonobo) boar-dingo fantasy???...Privateer an illustration please:nope:...I'm getting out the Hamm's and bracing for a long thread!:woot::rotfl2:
Madox58
11-30-13, 04:21 PM
Privateer an illustration please:nope:
I'll draw a stickman thing when the new Graphic tablet gets here.
Aktungbby
11-30-13, 04:25 PM
Between "your little world and my mind(s)" this target is clobbered already...where's Wolfertz for der fangschuss?:hmmm:
Madox58
11-30-13, 04:27 PM
I tried useing a mouse to draw with.
They squirm around to much and the Cats kept killing them.
Wolferz
11-30-13, 05:24 PM
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/cid_1C3AA6F478F94037A7C035B1BF7CA0B0shewolfPC_zps3 d539aec.gif
Jimbuna
11-30-13, 05:27 PM
I'll draw a stickman thing when the new Graphic tablet gets here.
Please refrain from encouragement Jeff mate :)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8306/onozomg21.gifhttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8306/onozomg21.gif
Stealhead
11-30-13, 06:17 PM
As Stealhead wrote "Seems legit"
when you look at how the human race behave against each other and against animals.
Markus
Well I meant that as a discredit really.I am no expert on such things but based on other theories I find this one a bit of a stretch.WE do not even understand enough about ourselves in more recent terms.
WE know enough to know that a percentage of modern humans have traces of Neanderthal to imply that we could be a hybrid of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal but not enough to data to be certain that we are all a hybrid so to speak or only a percentage.
Until we have better understanding of just the human genome I will personally refuse to accept any origin theory.We do know enough yet.
Aktungbby
11-30-13, 06:29 PM
WE know enough to know that a percentage of modern humans have traces of Neanderthal to imply that we could be a hybrid of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal
The Cut marks don't lie: WE ate Neanderthals for breakfast!:yep:
Armistead
11-30-13, 06:32 PM
I can attest that mating with pigs is possible, just scary waking up beside one....my current mate excluded of course.
Who love to see my human evolution teacher explain this...:D
Aktungbby
11-30-13, 06:40 PM
Porcineth not thy nag!:/\\chop:rotfl2: lest u B beheaded ArmiBBY! :oops:
Well I meant that as a discredit really.I am no expert on such things but based on other theories I find this one a bit of a stretch.WE do not even understand enough about ourselves in more recent terms.
WE know enough to know that a percentage of modern humans have traces of Neanderthal to imply that we could be a hybrid of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal but not enough to data to be certain that we are all a hybrid so to speak or only a percentage.
Until we have better understanding of just the human genome I will personally refuse to accept any origin theory.We do know enough yet.
Not so many weeks ago I saw an episode of Ancient Aliens in this episode a person said that maybe the visitors needed slave and looked at our ancestors and understood that they was to dumb. They then toke a gen from them self and made a generated mutation on our ancestors and Home sapiens was born.
(I smiled a little when I heard that)
Back to your response. I have the same attitude. We do not know enough.
Markus
Penguin
11-30-13, 08:06 PM
Chimpanzee and pig? not the worst, both are smart animals.
Too bad we are not descendants of dolphins and mice.
Stealhead
11-30-13, 08:45 PM
I wish I was the hybrid of a Hydra and a Phoenix.... a Hydoenix.
That way even if you managed to cut off all of my heads and manage to cauterize the wounds before they grew back I'd then simply come back instantly as a new Hydoenix and burn you to ashes in the process.
I wish I was the hybrid of a Hydra and a Phoenix.... a Hydoenix.
That way even if you managed to cut off all of my heads and manage to cauterize the wounds before they grew back I'd then simply come back instantly as a new Hydoenix and burn you to ashes in the process.
Now that is something! :up:
AngusJS
12-01-13, 10:43 PM
If different species from the same genus can't produce viable offspring, how can species from completely different orders do so?
WTH is this guy thinking?
Aktungbby
12-01-13, 10:53 PM
If different species from the same genus can't produce viable offspring, how can species from different completely different orders do so? WTH is this guy thinking?
With a hottie Bonobo in estrus and a bushhog in musth...what's thinkin' got to do with it...the little gray guys are jus restockin' the larder...think ultimate doomsday preppers! We're jes the In n' Out burger joint of the outer rim of the MILKY WAY.:oops: kin I git a Hamm's wid dat?
Cybermat47
12-01-13, 11:03 PM
So, put simply... an Ape was sick in the head, so it *CENSORED*.
And then all it's children... BLEURGH.
soopaman2
12-02-13, 03:22 PM
I saw an interview on a radio show with dr Neil Degrasse Tyson, a world famous astrophysicist, and director of the Hayden Planetarium in NYC.
When asked about why we seem to be above animals by the hosts he said this.
I hope I can convey it right, it may get long.
He said, we are only a slight percentage of DNA off from our closest relatives, say a chimpanzee. We as humans see all animals the same, even though a catfish, may be vastly smarter than a cod, we do not see that because they are so far below us. A chimp can do what most human toddlers can do.
Now imagine a being who is a slight DNA percentage ahead of us, as we are above apes/chimps, these beings will be wheeling Stephen Hawking forward, and marveling about how it can do astrophysics calculations in its head, like this beings little kid.
In other words, human intelligence is not the standard. We are not the top dogs. the law of probability says so.
For interview look up Opie and Anthony, Neil Degrasse Tyson on you tube, and click on the latest dated one. It is there, and he explains it so much better than me.
(edit also check out Dr. Michio Kakus books about the types of civilizations type I type II etc, we are currently a type one, and very much barely.) We barely got simple fusion under control.
We are not hot stuff, in the grand scheme of things, we are nothing.
Jimbuna
12-02-13, 03:29 PM
So, put simply... an Ape was sick in the head, so it *CENSORED*.
And then all it's children... BLEURGH.
The mind boggles :doh:
Aktungbby
12-02-13, 04:42 PM
We are not the top dogs. We are not hot stuff, in the grand scheme of things, we are nothing.
LIKE I KEEP TELLIN' YAS'...MODIFIED SASQUATCH...with a little gray?! poupon on the side...:Kaleun_Salivating::k_confused:
Jimbuna
12-02-13, 04:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/picard-facepalm.jpg
soopaman2
12-02-13, 05:18 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/picard-facepalm.jpg
Even in the 25th century we are still nothing in the grand scheme, even the epicness of Jean Luc Picard is nothing compared to the vastness of life in this universe, we are a type 1 people, most advanced civs would consider us not noteworthy.
If you hate american exceptionalism, then you will love my views on human exceptionalism. ;P
Tribesman
12-02-13, 05:26 PM
WTH is this guy thinking?
Publicity?
soopaman2
12-02-13, 05:34 PM
Publicity?
The Kim Kardashian of evolution theories?:haha::har:
Tribesman
12-02-13, 05:45 PM
The Kim Kardashian of evolution theories?:haha::har:
Yep
But it's not a theory, it's a hypothesis.:03:
Aktungbby
12-02-13, 09:26 PM
The Kim Kardashian of evolution theories?:haha::har:
A Bonobo hottie?:timeout:
Tribesman
12-03-13, 02:48 AM
A Bonobo hottie?:timeout:
Well they do say a bonobo will ride anything, so to them even a kardashian would be a hottie.
antikristuseke
12-03-13, 03:19 AM
Yep
But it's not a theory, it's a hypothesis.:03:
Not much of one at that.
Cybermat47
12-03-13, 03:39 AM
Not much of one at that.
Are you refuting it out of your scientific knowledge, or because apes doing it to pigs disgusts you?
If it's the second option, I don't blame you :haha:
Anyway, I'm going to tell this to all my friends. Back in a bit :)
antikristuseke
12-03-13, 03:57 AM
From my limited understanding of genetics. From what little I understand it would be impossible for a primates sperm to fertilize a pigs egg cell or the other way around, hell, the sperm shouldn't even see the egg as a viable target and if injected into it nothing of any consequence would happen. But as was said by Mayers, the person who put up the hypothesis has every opportunity to run experiments and report his findings to peer reviewed papers where his findings can be tested.
Cybermat47
12-03-13, 04:35 AM
Here's my friend's opinion:
? Really i mean that's funny but kinda believable...
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