Serously disgusting!!

[Jimbuna]

This pair of animals have the audacity to plead 'not guilty' :nope:

The killing of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London, was a "cowardly and callous murder", the Old Bailey has heard.

It was told that Michael Adebolajo, 28, and Michael Adebowale, 22, drove at Fusilier Rigby before attempting to decapitate him on the street close to his barracks on 22 May.

Both are also accused of attempting to murder a police officer and conspiracy to murder a police officer.

They both deny all charges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25153273

[Wolferz]

Time to stain the courtyard at the tower again with some drawing and quartering?:stare:

[Red October1984]

Of course, scum always plea guilty because they know they need every chance they can get.

[Jimbuna]

Time to stain the courtyard at the tower again with some drawing and quartering?:stare:

Of course, scum always plea guilty because they know they need every chance they can get.

Agreed!!

[Cybermat47]

They were fine saying it to a camera just after they murdered him.

What's wrong with these people? I hope they get life imprisonment.

[mapuc]

Searching the Internet, for an article in a danish newspaper

As I remember it a Muslim male screamed out in a danish court that he was innocent, he did only what his religion told him to do and no court on the earth could overrule any law of the Koran

Had something to do with an attempt assault on a journalist(infidel as he called him)

So in they head/belief they are innocent.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Searching the Internet, for an article in a danish newspaper

As I remember it a Muslim male screamed out in a danish court that he was innocent, he did only what his religion told him to do and no court on the earth could overrule any law of the Koran

Had something to do with an attempt assault on a journalist(infidel as he called him)

So in they head/belief they are innocent.

Markus

In their head maybe, but in the minds of EVERYONE ELSE....actions have consequences.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Pleading not guilty is a double-edged sword. It means a full-blown trial, and all the associated publicity vs a longer sentence when they get found guilty (surely they must!!!!).

[HW3]

They should each have a pork chop tied around their neck and then be shot by a firing squad.

[Cybermat47]

In their head maybe, but in the minds of EVERYONE ELSE....actions have consequences.

I wonder if any of their fellow Muslims actually think they did the right thing... :hmmm:

[Stealhead]

I wonder if any of their fellow Muslims actually think they did the right thing... :hmmm:


Kind of silly to assume that an entire religion would think the same way as two freaks.Timothy McVeigh called himself a Christian does that make Christians automatically agree with him?

Every major religion has its fair share of nut jobs "following" it. Jesus did not judge people but many people claiming to Christian sure as hell love judging others.

In the end scumbags get what they deserve these two will be no exception.

[Jimbuna]

Video footage showing them actually carrying out the act was shown to the court yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25155087

[Feuer Frei!]

In the end scumbags get what they deserve these two will be no exception.

You show way too much faith in the justice system.

[BossMark]

Shouldn't have even gone to trial, it would've have a lot cheaper and defiantly more satisfying just shoot the murdering evil bastards.

[Red October1984]

Shouldn't have even gone to trial, it would've have a lot cheaper and defiantly more satisfying just shoot the murdering evil bastards.

No matter how much we want to, we can't.

In a frustruating sort of way, we'd be no different....HOWEVER, I'm all for the death penalty if the crime is serious enough.

This is a serious enough crime. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I should imagine/hope they spend the rest of their days in solitary for their own protection if nothing else.

[swamprat69er]

I should imagine/hope they spend the rest of their days in solitary for their own protection if nothing else.

Toss them in with the general population for a year, if they survive that then behead them.

[mapuc]

Here's a little note to my last post

This Muslim I mentioned was a radical Muslim. I'm 110 % sure that these two person also is what we would call Radical Muslim

Markus

[Jimbuna]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6576/1nd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/1nd0.jpg/)

[Jimbuna]

I'm struggling to understand how these two individuals could act in such a manner on the streets of London :nope:

The court heard that Mr Miah had been talking with a local shopkeeper just yards from where Fusilier Rigby was hit by a car from behind.

Mr Miah said he had seen two armed men get out of the car, adding that one of them had pointed a gun at him and told him to stay back when he urged them not to kill the injured soldier.

Lee Rigby
Fusilier Rigby was walking back to Woolwich Barracks when he was killed on 22 May
He said he had thought the "men with knives were going to kill him. I told them not to kill him. They did not listen to me".

One of the men then slashed Fusilier Rigby's throat, while the other stabbed him "six times in his chest", Mr Miah said in his statement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25186307

[soopaman2]

Does the Tower of London still have all the fun torture machinery it used to have back in its "prime" ?

It is a shame us civilized western nations do not embrace the same methods the heathens do, then it would be called war crimes. We should start sawing thier heads off with rusty knives and putting it on liveleak, like they do.


Mantra: It's only war crimes when it comes to infidels defending themselves, if a Muslim does it, it is right, just and holy.

I drew a picture of muhammaed, I drew him with a phallus in his mouth, come get some! *warface*

You cannot offend them, or they riot worldwide, by far the most intolerant people I ever seen.

Religion of peace my ass.

edit: Muslims are the middle eastern version of the Westborough Baptist Church, so this is more about religion in general and not any specific denomination.

[Jimbuna]

Mobile phone footage of Michael Adebolajo explaining why he killed soldier Lee Rigby has been seen by the jury in his trial at the Old Bailey.

The footage showed Mr Adebolajo, 28, saying: "The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers."

In the video, he adds: "It's an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth."

Yet they still deny the charge of murder :doh:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25198859

[Aktungbby]

I should imagine/hope they spend the rest of their days in solitary for their own protection if nothing else.

Toss them in with the general population for a year, if they survive that then behead them.

:/\\chop:o:o:up:

[eddie]

During testimony, this cold blooded killer, admitted he was involved in the murder, and described how he ran this poor man down with his car, then got out and attacked the still concious soldier with a meat cleaver, hacking away at his throat until he was dead. He went on to explain how he loves Al Qaeda, and conciders them his brothers.

I hope the authorities don't lock him up for life, execute him the same way he did to the poor soldier. He desrves as much!:mad:

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/09/21834488-i-am-a-soldier-of-allah-alleged-london-killer-of-afghan-war-vet-appears-in-court?lite

[bertieck476]

I hope and presume him and his co defendant get a full life term and that full life term is hard for them, they will have an awful long time to dream about the martyrdom they craved.
There were some shocking scenes on tv when this happened, Lee Rigby was a off duty serving british soldier, a drummer in the royal regiment of fusiliers.

[Jimbuna]

Threads merged.

[eddie]

Thanks Jim for merging the threads. If it didn't cost the British taxpayers so much money, I would love to see them in solirary, no tv, no letters from home, no visitations by anyone! Let them go insane in their own cells. They want to die as martyrs, but let them go crazy all alone in a cell.

[Oberon]

I'm going to throw out a question, one that's been lurking on my mind for a while now, it's not a very popular question, but it's one that does, in my opinion anyway, need asking.

Aside from the method of killing and location, what is the difference between the killing of Lee Rigby, and the killing of the injured un-named insurgent shot by Royal Marine Sergeant Blackman?

This is by no means condoning either act, but I see a lot of people campaigning for Sgt. Blackman to either have his sentence reduced or removed completely, and yet the same sort of campaign does not occur to the two men who are currently in court. Naturally, I would be rather surprised if anyone in the UK took up their cause, most of the people who would publically do so are currently in Syria, the Khyber pass, or somewhere in Northern Africa.

Just a question to ponder, and reply in a non-emotional way if people are able.

[Cybermat47]

Aside from the method of killing and location, what is the difference between the killing of Lee Rigby, and the killing of the injured un-named insurgent shot by Royal Marine Sergeant Blackman?


None.

EDIT: Actually, there is a difference. Lee Rigby hadn't been trying to kill his attackers.

Strangely, German troops who allegedly commited war crimes in WWII got a similar defense to Sergeant Blackman from the British public on a Daily Mail article...

[Tribesman]

I'm going to throw out a question, one that's been lurking on my mind for a while now, it's not a very popular question, but it's one that does, in my opinion anyway, need asking.

Aside from the method of killing and location, what is the difference between the killing of Lee Rigby, and the killing of the injured un-named insurgent shot by Royal Marine Sergeant Blackman?

This is by no means condoning either act, but I see a lot of people campaigning for Sgt. Blackman to either have his sentence reduced or removed completely, and yet the same sort of campaign does not occur to the two men who are currently in court. Naturally, I would be rather surprised if anyone in the UK took up their cause, most of the people who would publically do so are currently in Syria, the Khyber pass, or somewhere in Northern Africa.

Just a question to ponder, and reply in a non-emotional way if people are able.
Since they claim they are soldiers they are covered by the same laws.
So that's murder as their victim was unarmed and incapacitated.
Then there is the mutilation of the dead body which is another war crime.

As for why some people will condemn the one and not the other.
Currently on this forum you have Haplo attempting the condemn actions which he has previously gone to great lengths to defend.
Its just the way some people are, their condemnation or support for actions are entirely dependant on who is doing the action and not the act itself.

[Jimbuna]

Thanks Jim for merging the threads. If it didn't cost the British taxpayers so much money, I would love to see them in solirary, no tv, no letters from home, no visitations by anyone! Let them go insane in their own cells. They want to die as martyrs, but let them go crazy all alone in a cell.

No problem and yeah, that would work for me as well.

[Jimbuna]

At last...someone has woken up to the smell of the coffee.

The men accused of killing soldier Lee Rigby set out to cause "carnage", a court has heard.

Michael Adebolajo, 29, and Michael Adebowale, 22, are accused of running Fusilier Rigby over in a car and hacking him to death.

In his closing speech, the prosecutor said their actions were "indefensible in the law of this country".

The judge dismissed Mr Adebolajo's defence that he was a "soldier of Allah". Both men deny the charges.

Mr Justice Sweeney told a jury at the Old Bailey that "nothing" said in Mr Adebolajo's evidence "amounts in law to a defence to this count [of murder]".

"Both defence counsel must and will respect that ruling in their speeches," he added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25416422

[TarJak]

Pretty clear steer on where this will end up. As it should. I reckon protective custody for a very long time will be the outcome.

[Jimbuna]

Most definitely 'soap on a rope' :)

[Jimbuna]

Before the verdict is announced...I wish I was as sure of winning the lottery come Saturday.

The jury in the trial of two men accused of murdering soldier Lee Rigby has retired to consider its verdict.

Michael Adebolajo, 29, and Michael Adebowale, 22, are accused of attacking Fusilier Rigby with a car before hacking him to death.

In his closing speech, the prosecutor said their actions were "indefensible in the law of this country".

The judge dismissed Mr Adebolajo's defence that he was a "soldier of Allah". Both men deny the charges.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25448658

[TarJak]

I'm sure you won't win it if you don't have a ticket.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Guilty - no defence whatsoever. Just awaiting sentencing now which if Marine A got life that prolly means they'll get just ten years. :/\\!!

[Jimbuna]

Took just 90 minutes for the jury to reach their verdict.

Mr Justice Sweeney ordered that the decisions be heard in silence. He said he will pass sentence after a key appeal court ruling on the use of whole life terms in January.

Hopefully life in real terms.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25450555

[BossMark]

By rights the judge should be now putting a black hanky chief on his head.

[Sailor Steve]

"Hanky chief"? :hmmm:

[swamprat69er]

"Hanky chief"? :hmmm:

Would that be the hood of an executioner?

[BossMark]

"Hanky chief"? :hmmm:
Yes when we had the death penalty the judge always put a black hanky on head

[Sailor Steve]

Would that be the hood of an executioner?
Maybe the guy in charge of all the handkerchiefs. :06:

[swamprat69er]

Yes when we had the death penalty the judge always put a black hanky on head

Thought so.
They really need this :/\\chop with a dull blade.

[swamprat69er]

Having just watched part of the interview in the cop shop, I would have to say that this cowardly act was premeditated. As a result they really do NEED the death penalty, hopefully with a dull blade.

[Jimbuna]

Having just watched part of the interview in the cop shop, I would have to say that this cowardly act was premeditated. As a result they really do NEED the death penalty, hopefully with a dull blade.

Oh if only.....http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9425/praydl5rp5.gif

"I wish the bullets had killed me so I can join my friends and family."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25424290

[Tribesman]

Oh if only.....http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9425/praydl5rp5.gif

Why give the scum what they want?
If their aim was to die then make sure they live a very long time

[Jimbuna]

I begrudge them being the financial burden to the hardworking taxpayer they will inevitably become.

[Aktungbby]

:/\\chop:o:o:up:

Thought so.
They really need this :/\\chop with a dull blade.

Someone else sees it my way!:yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Another perspective (from someone on another forum).

Well, as we don't have the death penalty we need to be practical:

Life time in solitary. Bare cell, with nothing that can be adapted to use to commit suicide. Stainless steel, unbreakable sanitary facilities. Shower comes on for 5 minutes each day 30 minutes after lights on. 12hours darkness, 12 hours flourescent light every day. No books, radios, communication sources or clocks. 3 meals every day, basic, always the same. Guards don't speak, sound insulated from everyone else. 1 hour's exercise in a bare hall once a week, alone. Relative visit and letters once a year, limited to 30 minutes. No publicity. Health care interventions and meds as required. No hard labour, no abuse or threats. Nothing. just sitting, lying or standing in a cell, as time passes.

Same regime, day after day, decade after decade, without hope of release until death ensues from natural causes.

You want martyrdom?- have it.

[mapuc]

Another perspective (from someone on another forum).

Man, if you only would know what could happen if we did this to a criminal- all these human rights organization would make havoc

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Man, if you only would know what could happen if we did this to a criminal- all these human rights organization would make havoc

Markus

Oh I don't know, I think the prison service could replicate the above pretty well.