Is the Dallas done?

[Red October1984]

This is sad...

USS Dallas (SSN-700) returns from final scheduled deployment (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comsubgru2/sets/72157638058300924/)

[Onkel Neal]

Wow, how about that.

[GoldenRivet]

this day had to come sooner or later. She served us well. :up:

museum ship, or placed into mothball? what do you think her fate will be?

[Admiral Halsey]

this day had to come sooner or later. She served us well. :up:

museum ship, or placed into mothball? what do you think her fate will be?

Mothballed and will eventually be sent to the breakers. If any of them were to have become a museum it would have been the Los Angeles.

[GoldenRivet]

perhaps but the Dallas has quite a bit of cinematic history where subs are concerned :D

im sure you're right... she will be turned into a lot of scrap :nope:

[Spiced_Rum]

Maybe, it will be sold off to the Iranians now that they are playing nicely. Or China as another floating casino just like the Russian aircraft carrier. :nope:

[Jimbuna]

That's a real shame...I wonder if Neal ever got aboard like he did the Texas.

[Red October1984]

this day had to come sooner or later. She served us well. :up:

Indeed. :up:

museum ship?

Oh man...I hope so. But with the way things are working right now, I very much doubt it.

[Admiral Halsey]

perhaps but the Dallas has quite a bit of cinematic history where subs are concerned :D

im sure you're right... she will be turned into a lot of scrap :nope:

I hope i'm wrong but considering there have been ships more worthy of being saved and they were scrapped* I seriously doubt it.









* Two examples would be CV-6 and CV-65.

[ETR3(SS)]

Sold for scrap and her core transported to the Hanover site to be buried. She may be 30 years old but there is still plenty of secrets she holds that could help another nation.

[Stealhead]

She will be scrapped she will be inactivated in Sept. 2014 . http://news.usni.org/2013/07/11/navy-to-decommission-7-frigates-mcm-and-ssn

Honestly the steel she is made of is still very valuable they can recycle that steel and use it in newer subs.Also no doubt a good majority of the materiel is of very high value thinking just of the electronics alone.The Navy will probably get several million back from the scrap and also the bits that are still serviceable that can be used on active boats.

Besides as a museum ship it would a rather boring tour most of the goods being still in use."This is the galley and this is the mess and these are the bunks well that is all we can show you folks".

To me at least it is more fitting to be taken apart and come back as a part of newer better submarine some day.

[Nippelspanner]

Oh boy, she was my favorite in Dangerous Waters (always edited missions so it was the Dallas :)). Of course she did catch my interest due to Hunt for Red October, but what I read about this boat a while ago, she was always very successful and reliable.

Hearing she gets scrapped really hurts though. It feels just...so wrong!

Good bye, Dallas! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmPP1UPvryk) :salute:

[Bubblehead1980]

They should hold on to her, make her a museum someday.Tired of scrapping some of the best ships.I still can't believe the idiots scrapped the Enterprise(CV-6) back in the 50's, despite even efforts by Admiral Halsey what were they thinking?

[Admiral Halsey]

They should hold on to her, make her a museum someday.Tired of scrapping some of the best ships.I still can't believe the idiots scrapped the Enterprise(CV-6) back in the 50's, despite even efforts by Admiral Halsey what were they thinking?

No clue. I think we should make an effort to always save the lead ship of every class. Kinda like the British did with their locomotive preservation efforts at the end of the steam era.(Though they nearly blew it by not choosing the Flying Scotsman as one of the engines for preservation. Thank god she was still saved from the scrappers.)

[Oberon]

No clue. I think we should make an effort to always save the lead ship of every class. Kinda like the British did with their locomotive preservation efforts at the end of the steam era.(Though they nearly blew it by not choosing the Flying Scotsman as one of the engines for preservation. Thank god she was still saved from the scrappers.)

Nope, gotta bite on this one. :haha:

That's not quite how it happened, although God I wish it was.
Although some lead engines of their class were preserved, they were generally rather exceptional engines such as the Stirling No. 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNR_Stirling_4-2-2), but generally speaking they were few and far between. However the real preservation drive began at the end of steam in the 1960s, and it wasn't that organised because it was enthusiast groups trying to grab any locomotive they could before the scrapyards cut them up, in that way the Barry Scrapyard in Wales would be the lifesaver of many locomotives because they were very lenient on accepting money for locos or putting locos to one side until the funds could be arranged. Many 'Standard' locomotives were preserved (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BR_standard_classes#BR_standard_classes) because they were quite new at the time and thus could be put into service on preserved lines quite early, likewise the Austerity classes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunslet_Austerity_0-6-0ST) because there were so many of them dotted around the network in coal yards and industrial sidings.
As such, when the iron dust had settled, there were gaping holes in our preservation list, we had an A2, A3 and A4s but no A1 until Tornado was built from scratch by the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust in 2008. Scotsman was the only A3 to be preserved, and thankfully Alan Pegler was able to step in and grab her before she went but she's become bogged down in a constant state of overhaul to get her back to mainline running status.
Needless to say though, a LOT of steam locomotives were saved, and we should be eternally grateful for this, but we couldn't save them all, and certainly the lead loco of each class were not saved (otherwise we'd still have Silver Link of the A4 class) but thankfully we did get quite a few lead locomotives, particularly those of the Great Western and LMS area because they went to Barry scrapyard and were able to be grabbed from there.
We have a lot to thank Dai Woodham for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_Woodham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodham_Brothers

[Aktungbby]

think we should make an effort to always save the lead ship of every class. Thank god she was still saved from the scrappers.)

I'm with you! I got to see the USS Iowa, surrounded by fire boats, in tow, to her new berth in southern Ca. goin' out of the Golden Gate! She had sat for some considerable time in the Suisun 'ghost fleet' in the Sacramento river. I would have preferred her next to the carrier Hornet at Alameda or the Jeremiah O'Brian Liberty ship in San Francisco but funding was the issue...as always. Naturally, she was the 'lead' of the Iowa class battle wagons!:rock:

[Madox58]

I'd love to see the Dallas next to the Texas.
Even near the Cavalla would be cool.
If nothing else, maybe the Conning Tower could be salvaged and placed near one of them.

[Admiral Halsey]

Nope, gotta bite on this one. :haha:

That's not quite how it happened, although God I wish it was.
Although some lead engines of their class were preserved, they were generally rather exceptional engines such as the Stirling No. 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNR_Stirling_4-2-2), but generally speaking they were few and far between. However the real preservation drive began at the end of steam in the 1960s, and it wasn't that organised because it was enthusiast groups trying to grab any locomotive they could before the scrapyards cut them up, in that way the Barry Scrapyard in Wales would be the lifesaver of many locomotives because they were very lenient on accepting money for locos or putting locos to one side until the funds could be arranged. Many 'Standard' locomotives were preserved (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BR_standard_classes#BR_standard_classes) because they were quite new at the time and thus could be put into service on preserved lines quite early, likewise the Austerity classes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunslet_Austerity_0-6-0ST) because there were so many of them dotted around the network in coal yards and industrial sidings.
As such, when the iron dust had settled, there were gaping holes in our preservation list, we had an A2, A3 and A4s but no A1 until Tornado was built from scratch by the A1 Steam Locomotive Trust in 2008. Scotsman was the only A3 to be preserved, and thankfully Alan Pegler was able to step in and grab her before she went but she's become bogged down in a constant state of overhaul to get her back to mainline running status.
Needless to say though, a LOT of steam locomotives were saved, and we should be eternally grateful for this, but we couldn't save them all, and certainly the lead loco of each class were not saved (otherwise we'd still have Silver Link of the A4 class) but thankfully we did get quite a few lead locomotives, particularly those of the Great Western and LMS area because they went to Barry scrapyard and were able to be grabbed from there.
We have a lot to thank Dai Woodham for:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_Woodham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodham_Brothers

Still at least they tried to save some of the important ones which is more then you can say about the US. I mean for cripes sake we didn't save a single New York Central Hudson. Also the saved steam here is almost always either a 2-8-2 Mike, 2-8-4 Berkshire or the 4-8-4 Northern and it's mostly Mike's.

[Jimbuna]

Still at least they tried to save some of the important ones which is more then you can say about the US. I mean for cripes sake we didn't save a single New York Central Hudson. Also the saved steam here is almost always either a 2-8-2 Mike, 2-8-4 Berkshire or the 4-8-4 Northern and it's mostly Mike's.

Maybe so but look at all the ships you have compared to our mere handfull.

[Admiral Halsey]

Maybe so but look at all the ships you have compared to our mere handfull.

True. Heck we didn't loose a single Iowa BB to the scrappers.(Well we did if you included the two that were never completed but I don't.) Still i'm a steam fan at heart and the only ship that's ever captured my heart like them is the S.S. United States.

[Madox58]

Maybe so but look at all the ships you have compared to our mere handfull.

You all never got over the "Tea" fiasco so suck it up.
:haha:

[Jimbuna]

You all never got over the "Tea" fiasco so suck it up.
:haha:

Good job it wasn't beer tipped over the side or Wellington and his army would have been sent over and you'd be working for me and Nancy Lady on our palatial Ranchero :)

[Aktungbby]

Wellington and his army would have been sent over

Wrong war ol' son; it was 'gentleman Johnny' Burgoyne, Cornwallis and the incomparable Lord Howe among others. The Iron Duke's (Wellington)own brother in Law, Lord Packenham, was killed in the war of 1812 at New Orleans. My own forbears promptly fled to Canada in 1777 to avoid being disloyal to George III, My Grandfather emigrated back in the 1920's...so by fluke only, am I not a subject of the Queen:damn:

[nikimcbee]

It would make a great museum, but I'd imagine most of the stuff on board is still classified. Considering, most of the Nautilus is still classified (reactor):hmmm: