George Zimmerman charged with felony after allegedly pointing gun at girlfriend

[CaptainMattJ.]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/

This obviously doesn't prove anything about the martin case but it does prove my nagging suspiscion about him being a complete arse.

[Cybermat47]

He's completely crazy.

[Tribesman]

So this is the third one of his ladies who have called out the police and claimed that he is a violent dickhead:hmmm:

[Bubblehead1980]

I agree, proves nothing in the Martin case, all evidence showed Martin was an over aggressive little wannabe thug.However, in light of yet another incident with Zimmerman, something is up.PTSD from the whole murder trial perhaps? Stress etc? Obviously needs some help.That is one thing our own system seems to ignore, that is causes emotional stress etc often times.I had a DUI one time and the process is extremely stressful, and dehumanizing.I could not imagine the time he spent in jail, wondering if he would crucified for a murder charge due to politics.I hope he gets help, he obviously needs it.

[Tribesman]

Bubbles, if his violent behaviour is a result of PTSD why does his history of violent behaviour predate the shooting incident?

[Bubblehead1980]

Bubbles, if his violent behaviour is a result of PTSD why does his history of violent behaviour predate the shooting incident?


I don't know of any really violent behavior before this.Martin incident was self defense, does not mean he is a violent person.The alleged fight and resisting arrest thing where charges were dropped if I recall.Well I know from work experience and observing many cases the 98 percent of "Resisting Arrest" charges are actually "contempt of cop", and many are dismissed.I would say it is possible he had a problem before, but the whole Martin incident exacerbated the problem.I hope he gets some help, think it's unfair he was given no bond for an assault charge? such garbage.

[August]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/

This obviously doesn't prove anything about the martin case but it does prove my nagging suspiscion about him being a complete arse.

According to that article there's not much proof of anything in this case either. Just her word.

[Bubblehead1980]

According to that article there's not much proof of anything in this case either. Just her word.


True, and I have always supported him, as his life was needlessly turned upside down due to racial politics, he was clearly justified under Florida law, which is why he was not originally arrested.This is likely to workout for him, hope he gets himself straight and moves out.A new name, appearance change and move far away from Florida is likely his best option.

[CaptainMattJ.]

But is it coincidental multiple women and multiple incidents with Zimmerman all sound the same? Hes been accused of essentially the same thing and the same attitude before multiple times. Is it all a conspiracy?

[August]

But is it coincidental multiple women and multiple incidents with Zimmerman all sound the same? Hes been accused of essentially the same thing and the same attitude before multiple times. Is it all a conspiracy?


AFAIK he's been accused of this by just one other woman, his ex-wife. Those allegations apparently didn't stick and unless there is more to it than the article mentions neither will these I think.

[TorpX]

But is it coincidental multiple women and multiple incidents with Zimmerman all sound the same? Hes been accused of essentially the same thing and the same attitude before multiple times. Is it all a conspiracy?
Does this line of reasoning apply to others as well? Bill Clinton for instance?

[Tribesman]

The alleged fight and resisting arrest thing where charges were dropped if I recall.
Bubbles. If you recall he copped a plea and got put on anger management lessons which they give some violent people.
What about the restraining order?
Martin incident was self defense
OJ was innocent too?


AFAIK he's been accused of this by just one other woman, his ex-wife.
August,you seem to be forgetting the earlier girlfrend:hmmm:

[Wolferz]

He's just another misogynistic ass hat.
I feel sorry for a guy who can only win a woman's favor by pointing a weapon at her, because...
George got no gun.:doh:

[Mr Quatro]

Don't be so quick to judge George ... did you see this gal in a swim suit?

She is way above his status of being a woman's man. She has bosum's :o

I think she's lying and is also pg and smells money from the tabloids.

One of them is lying about the glass table being broken and who broke it and about the guns being waved in her face. This is a case of he said, she said without any proof.

I know for sure that women lie and this one qualifies as a woman :yep:

[Jimbuna]

looks like one persons word against the other from where I'm standing.

[AVGWarhawk]

From where I'm standing I don't see myself following this story of Zimmerman.

[Jimbuna]

From where I'm standing I don't see myself following this story of Zimmerman.

Fair enough...thread locked :O:

[Platapus]

According to that article there's not much proof of anything in this case either. Just her word.

But Ex-wives/girlfriends would never lie about something like that just to get even or something towards someone they are angry with. :nope: That would be wrong.

[Armistead]

It's obvious GZ has issues and I'm sure his life hasn't been the same, but I don't equate any of his actions with the Martin case. The one fact there is he didn't shoot until Martin was on top of him beating him up, so I believe the verdict was correct.

I do see a dark future for GZ, he is marked in many ways and life will be difficult. People know being around him can and will get them in the news and on talk shows....

[vienna]

All I know is I just won a bet I made when GZ wsa acquitted; it was the same bet (different person) I made about OJ Simpson. The cowardly criminal thug in each of them has won out and the world would be better off without them on our streets...



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[CaptainMattJ.]

Does this line of reasoning apply to others as well? Bill Clinton for instance?

I completely fail to see both the relationship between the two and the point you're trying to make.


But Ex-wives/girlfriends would never lie about something like that just to get even or something towards someone they are angry with. :nope: That would be wrong.
3 different woman and an entire murder investigation, along with testimony from multiple neighbors, all claiming the same exact thing: that Zimmerman is an ill-tempered arse.

Either everyone is out to get him or he is one particularly bent-out-of-shape individual. And ive seen alot more angry jerks than ive seen victims of a targeted conspiracy.

It's obvious GZ has issues and I'm sure his life hasn't been the same, but I don't equate any of his actions with the Martin case. The one fact there is he didn't shoot until Martin was on top of him beating him up, so I believe the verdict was correct.

I do see a dark future for GZ, he is marked in many ways and life will be difficult. People know being around him can and will get them in the news and on talk shows....
How can such a contested and obfuscated detail be considered factual at all, for either side of the debate? The whole incident was obfuscated. Nobody knew enough solid information to either fully redeem nor convict zimmerman.

As to your other point, what about the people who accused him of being belligerent BEFORE the martin case

[Armistead]

How can such a contested and obfuscated detail be considered factual at all, for either side of the debate? The whole incident was obfuscated. Nobody knew enough solid information to either fully redeem nor convict zimmerman.

As to your other point, what about the people who accused him of being belligerent BEFORE the martin case

There was one male witness that saw Martin on top of him beating him, then he heard the gun shot. Regardless of how they came together, that's what saved his butt. Obviously the jury had enough solid information to find him not guilty. That's redemption.

Obvious many will try to connect his behavior now to the Martin case, but it resolves nothing. As many said, when his trial was over, his life was pretty much ruined anyway. I suspect he will continue to spiral out of control.

[Wolferz]

Right now this tool is up to his ears in debt to his lawyers.
He still can't seem to behave himself and the court system/s will eventually take him out.
I have to wonder, who is feeding this guy? Where does he get money to live on,much less come up with bail? His Daddy?
Pop better cut and run before his boy drags him all the way down.

[August]

I completely fail to see both the relationship between the two and the point you're trying to make.
At least three different women accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.

[August]

There was one male witness that saw Martin on top of him beating him, then he heard the gun shot. Regardless of how they came together, that's what saved his butt.

Well that and the angle of the bullet and distance between Martins clothing and body corroborating it..

[AVGWarhawk]

Fair enough...thread locked :O:

I meant the story in general. The thread will certainly go off on a tangent were Bush is blamed. :haha:

[Tribesman]

Obviously the jury had enough solid information to find him not guilty.
You got that completely backwards Armistead.
It was a lack of solid information which brought in the not guilty verdict, that's the way the law works.

[Armistead]

You got that completely backwards Armistead.
It was a lack of solid information which brought in the not guilty verdict, that's the way the law works.

I'll agree with that..but it was the solid witness statement that GZ was getting beaten by Martin that most jurors claimed it was self defense...

[Tribesman]

I'll agree with that..but it was the solid witness statement that GZ was getting beaten by Martin that most jurors claimed it was self defense...
Good gave the best witness testimony, it certainly wasn't solid though.
It didn't have to be solid, all they needed was reasonable doubt.
The only witness that could have given a solid statement on the events refused to testify.

[CaptainMattJ.]

At least three different women accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct.
I know, and i know thats what he was referring to. But how does that pertain at all to GZ?

We know bill clinton got a BJ. We dont know anything conclusive in the GZ case, there wasnt enough evidence to convict nor was there really enough to totally redeem him.

The two are completely different. I simply dont understand why he would bring it up.

There was one male witness that saw Martin on top of him beating him, then he heard the gun shot. Regardless of how they came together, that's what saved his butt. Obviously the jury had enough solid information to find him not guilty. That's redemption.

Obvious many will try to connect his behavior now to the Martin case, but it resolves nothing. As many said, when his trial was over, his life was pretty much ruined anyway. I suspect he will continue to spiral out of control.
As tribesman said, absence of proof is not proof of absence. In the eyes of our law system, he is innocent until proven guilty. In reality, there are plenty of people who are guilty but have not enough proof to convict. There is not enough solid evidence to prove that he didnt do it just like there isnt enough solid evidence to prove he was guilty.

I wasn't connecting his behavior necessarily to the martin case. Ive just been saying that based on the multiple accusations now of him being an jerk, that he really IS a jerk.

[August]

I know, and i know thats what he was referring to. But how does that pertain at all to GZ?

We know bill clinton got a BJ. We dont know anything conclusive in the GZ case, there wasnt enough evidence to convict nor was there really enough to totally redeem him.

The two are completely different. I simply dont understand why he would bring it up.

Naw, not the BJ or Monica Lewinski, it's the sexual misconduct accusations made by Paula Jones, Kathleen Wiley, Juanita Broderick.

[Armistead]

Good gave the best witness testimony, it certainly wasn't solid though.
It didn't have to be solid, all they needed was reasonable doubt.
The only witness that could have given a solid statement on the events refused to testify.

Which witness was that?