Sometimes it’s homophobic, sometimes it's sexist, and a lot of times it’s racist

[Onkel Neal]

What I do with my friends is not up to America to dictate to me. ... The language we use, sometimes it’s homophobic, sometimes it's sexist, and a lot of times it’s racist. We do that when we’re joking with our friends, and it’s nothing personal.

Paraphrased to suit me :arrgh!:
In the lockeroom it's ok... (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1851703-charles-barkley-defends-matt-barnes-use-of-racial-slur?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t2)

[AVGWarhawk]

[I]What I do with my friends is not up to America to dictate to me. ... The language we use, sometimes it’s homophobic, sometimes it's sexist, and a lot of times it’s racist. We do that when we’re joking with our friends, and it’s nothing personal.


Unless your last name is Incognito.

[conus00]

People need to stop being so damn touchy and grow a thicker skin. :nope:

[Red October1984]

People need to stop being so damn touchy and grow a thicker skin. :nope:

+1

ALL locker rooms are this way.

"What I do with my friends is not up to America to dictate to me. ... The language we use, sometimes it’s homophobic, sometimes it's sexist, and a lot of times it’s racist. We do that when we’re joking with our friends, and it’s nothing personal."

This is great.

Stuff like this keeps reenforcing my theory that society is too soft these days.

[Stealhead]

+1
Stuff like this keeps reenforcing my theory that society is too soft these days.


That all depends on what neighborhood you happen to be in.Some the people are soft in others the only thing soft is the sole of the shoe pressing your face into the street.

[Cybermat47]

Stuff like this keeps reenforcing my theory that society is too soft these days.

Agreed. I blame society for me being a wuss.

[Red October1984]

Agreed. I blame society for me being a wuss.

Well, think about it this way.

Back when our older members here grew up, they weren't told "Everybody is a winner" and "No matter what you do, it's okay"

I grew up like that...but a lot of people are being raised to be victims because no matter what they do, they're okay and nobody will judge them.

I grew up knowing that there can't be 4 winners...there is one winner and you don't get there by just participating.

We're getting lazy IMHO. And soft....because nobody wants to offend anybody anymore. I'll use P.E. as an example. I guarantee Physical Education classes in 1960 were a lot different than they are now.

Now, no matter what game you are playing, you have the right to be offended and the right to get upset and make a big stink over somebody calling you a dummy...and the right to quit/not participate/do your own thing because of it. All because you were raised thinking that everybody is a winner and everybody is equal in sporting events no matter the score. No matter what happens, you are you and that's good enough for society.

Every time there's a bullying case in the news or something similar, it just adds to this IMHO.

People need to suck it up and learn to take it, because you can't be a winner in life by "just participating" and I think the way we teach kids early on is causing society to go soft.

"Oh. It's okay. He's a winner no matter what" has gone way too far.

I think all these people who are being "bullied" need to learn to stand up for themselves.

Just one of my opinion-theories. I remember hating a youth basketball league I signed up for because it was this way and I would tell them at the end of the games that "there can't be two winners. There's the team that won and the team that lost" and I was probably around 9 or 10 at the time.


However....

There is a point where the hazing and bullying can be a problem. I believe in a little bit of both here. If it is a problem, then don't be afraid to 1) stand up for yourself or 2) consult a higher authority on what you should do.


I'm probably going to light the forum on fire with this one if I go any further....so I'll stop now.

[Wolferz]

The touchy feely, everyone's a winner PC crowd want people to feel victimized by bullies. I always had the right cure for the bully. Give him a big dose of his own medicine in front of the friends he was trying to impress.
My first high school PE teacher was an ex-marine who ran his class like Paris Island. You didn't complain that so and so was picking on you. You either sucked it up or you dealt with it. I found out at a young age that nothing stops a bully faster than a bloody nose and a fat lip. They were always wide open for it because they thought I was some little wimp who wouldn't fight back. They were wrong.:arrgh!: I had enough abuse from my elder brother that no bully could ever rival. At least until I busted him in the mouth.:stare: By that time I could recognize the bully and his verbal cues and pre-empt the attack with a well placed shot in the snoz. If the guy was bigger, weapons weren't far away. The random lunchroom chair, a T-square or whatever else was close at hand.

All of these anti-bullying campaigns going on today make me want to puke every time I see one of them.

Want to beat a bully without scraping your knuckles? Don't show fear. That's what they really want.

When Ralphie beat the crap outta Scott Farkas, I cheered.

[Red October1984]

The touchy feely, everyone's a winner PC crowd want people to feel victimized by bullies. I always had the right cure for the bully. Give him a big dose of his own medicine in front of the friends he was trying to impress.
My first high school PE teacher was an ex-marine who ran his class like Paris Island. You didn't complain that so and so was picking on you. You either sucked it up or you dealt with it. I found out at a young age that nothing stops a bully faster than a bloody nose and a fat lip. They were always wide open for it because they thought I was some little wimp who wouldn't fight back. They were wrong.:arrgh!: I had enough abuse from my elder brother that no bully could ever rival. At least until I busted him in the mouth.:stare: By that time I could recognize the bully and his verbal cues and pre-empt the attack with a well placed shot in the snoz. If the guy was bigger, weapons weren't far away. The random lunchroom chair, a T-square or whatever else was close at hand.

All of these anti-bullying campaigns going on today make me want to puke every time I see one of them.

Want to beat a bully without scraping your knuckles? Don't show fear. That's what they really want.

When Ralphie beat the crap outta Scott Farkas, I cheered.

+ somewhere around a million

The thing is now, bullies have figured out that the solution to that is when the kid stands up for themself, that they can run and go tell on the kid for punching them and the bully gets off while the kid is punished.

That actually happened to me. It pissed me off to no end. I'm still pretty peeved sometimes. The idiot who ruined my childhood never learned his lesson because I always got the short end of the stick. I was always told to stand up for myself and I would never be in trouble at home if I beat up a bully but the school thought otherwise.

Thankfully, it was before all the anti-bullying stuff took off and they only kept me inside during recess for a whole day.

[Armistead]

A big problem in many schools, if you stand up to a bully, even protect yourself, you get in trouble and suspended for fighting. When I was in school, if someone attacked you, hit you, pushed you and you fought back, it was highly unlikely you would get in trouble.

I see a mindset that kids shouldn't fight for any reason, utter BS.

[conus00]

I believe that PC BS is going to destruct the United States inside of 10 years. Some of the stuff I've seen in my almost 14 years living here just plain blows my mind... I would have never believed it possible... :nope:

[Cybermat47]

I believe that PC BS is going to destruct the United States inside of 10 years. Some of the stuff I've seen in my almost 14 years living here just plain blows my mind... I would have never believed it possible... :nope:

What do you think about the rest of the world, not just that one country?

[Red October1984]

Wait...so...for once....people agree with my theory?

I DIDN'T START A MAJOR ARGUMENT!*

*yet

But yes, the kids these days are being punished.

I've seen it change over my school career.

In 2nd Grade, they would just make me stay inside during one of the three recesses and the bully would stay in all day.

Now, if I was bullied, I would get suspended for at least a week for "Aggressive Behavior" and all the bully would have to do is whine and complain to get off scot-free.

It became that way when I was in like...5th grade.

I'm not one who likes to fight...so if you get me THAT mad...it's some serious business and I've already considered the fact that I could be kicked out of school for a week.

[Garion]

It's just as bad in the UK :nope: .

PC is tyranny by words. Say the wrong thing in the wrong place and yoo can lose yer job, yer, house and yer family.

I hates it.

Cheers

Gary

[Jimbuna]

It's just as bad in the UK :nope: .

PC is tyranny by words. Say the wrong thing in the wrong place and yoo can lose yer job, yer, house and yer family.

I hates it.

Cheers

Gary

First thing you've got to find is someone with a job and a house :O:

[Aktungbby]

What I do with my friends is not up to America to dictate to me. ... The language we use, sometimes it’s homophobic, sometimes it's sexist, and a lot of times it’s racist. We do that when we’re joking with our friends, and it’s nothing personal.

Paraphrased to suit me :arrgh!:In the lockeroom it's ok... (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1851703-charles-barkley-defends-matt-barnes-use-of-racial-slur?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t2)
Ya' mean all the utterly rancid, lascivious, perverse and irreverent barbs, puns, gibes, epithets, wretched jests, double entendre and comradely Ubootwaffoonery iss ok? I mean I'm only trying to insult 93,200+-:subsim:ers of my inner circle ...really:yeah: And believe me, I found a few mentors here!:salute:

[Bubblehead1980]

I have had to explain to several women that this is how males communicate with their friends.However, there is always one jerk in a group who crosses the line and if someone will not stand up for themselves, they will keep on.Often, it is because the bully feels threatened by the victim and is trying to establish dominance, test the waters.Problem is in our PC society, as mentioned, the victim who fights back often gets in trouble for doing so.Incognito is a jerk, he just looks and acts like a big, dumb, over aggressive, jerk who is not far from being a knuckle dragger. I am glad he is suspended and being called out, but think Martin was a bit of a punk for not standing up for himself because all Incognito needed was an ass kicking.

[Father Goose]

Well, think about it this way.

Back when our older members here grew up, they weren't told "Everybody is a winner" and "No matter what you do, it's okay"

I grew up like that...but a lot of people are being raised to be victims because no matter what they do, they're okay and nobody will judge them.

I grew up knowing that there can't be 4 winners...there is one winner and you don't get there by just participating.

We're getting lazy IMHO. And soft....because nobody wants to offend anybody anymore. I'll use P.E. as an example. I guarantee Physical Education classes in 1960 were a lot different than they are now.

Now, no matter what game you are playing, you have the right to be offended and the right to get upset and make a big stink over somebody calling you a dummy...and the right to quit/not participate/do your own thing because of it. All because you were raised thinking that everybody is a winner and everybody is equal in sporting events no matter the score. No matter what happens, you are you and that's good enough for society.

Every time there's a bullying case in the news or something similar, it just adds to this IMHO.

People need to suck it up and learn to take it, because you can't be a winner in life by "just participating" and I think the way we teach kids early on is causing society to go soft.

"Oh. It's okay. He's a winner no matter what" has gone way too far.

I think all these people who are being "bullied" need to learn to stand up for themselves.

Just one of my opinion-theories. I remember hating a youth basketball league I signed up for because it was this way and I would tell them at the end of the games that "there can't be two winners. There's the team that won and the team that lost" and I was probably around 9 or 10 at the time.


However....

There is a point where the hazing and bullying can be a problem. I believe in a little bit of both here. If it is a problem, then don't be afraid to 1) stand up for yourself or 2) consult a higher authority on what you should do.


I'm probably going to light the forum on fire with this one if I go any further....so I'll stop now.

Great post Red! :up:

[August]

Martins mother is a lawyer specializing in workplace harassment. There is no evidence he attempted to communicate his concerns to management. I think he just see's a bigger paycheck from this than he'd be able to earn as a player.

[Armistead]

I have had to explain to several women that this is how males communicate with their friends.However, there is always one jerk in a group who crosses the line and if someone will not stand up for themselves, they will keep on.Often, it is because the bully feels threatened by the victim and is trying to establish dominance, test the waters.Problem is in our PC society, as mentioned, the victim who fights back often gets in trouble for doing so.Incognito is a jerk, he just looks and acts like a big, dumb, over aggressive, jerk who is not far from being a knuckle dragger. I am glad he is suspended and being called out, but think Martin was a bit of a punk for not standing up for himself because all Incognito needed was an ass kicking.


Yea, I got blasted for calling Martin a wimp/pus on FB. Tons of women mouthing how bullying hurts people, better not to confront, etc. The fact is that is typical behavior with sports teams. I agree Incognito is scum and should be dealt with, but Martin is the example of the typical entitled quitter...You don't give up your dream over a punk, nor quit and run home to mommy as he did....It's an insult to the numerous black players that went through real racism and stayed the course.

[soopaman2]

I called a friend of mine gay because his wife kept him in the house when we were all partying.

Does that make me homophobic?

I was called the n word in an online FPS by some squeaky voiced 12 year old, I laughed, does that make me rascist?

Someone on this forum called me a moron, ok alot of people called me a moron here. :D

I am bullied, I am hiring a lawyer and suing Neal.

Bawww words hurt!

Thicker skin people, I mean that not for this site, but for the world.

Why do words hurt so much these days,? We have gotten way too hyper sensitive.

[Skybird]

There will come the day when people get sued for the consequences of having moved out of bed in the morning.

[Cybermat47]

Why do words hurt so much these days,? We have gotten way too hyper sensitive.

As a hyper-sensitive person, I agree 1,000,000%.

I'm really sick of being insulted by everything I disagree with :nope:

If you guys could send me insulting PMs, I'd probably get over it :)

I'm not joking, I'm absolutely serious :yep:

[soopaman2]

Cybermat, I would rather insult you publically.

You are a (*beep beep beeeeep beep beep beep son of a beeeeep*

Just kidding, your a good egg, and a pal of mine.:D

All jokes aside, this political correctness is stemming from fringe minority groups able to garner the attention of the majority who could not usually care less , fueled by the fear of corporate sponsors, and piggy backed by a bored 24 hour news cycle starved for a steady stream of news to deliver to the stupid rubes, who believe and buy everything our sponsors want them to.