View Full Version : Tom Cruise: My work as an actor is as hard as fighting in Afghanistan
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/11/08/tom-cruise-my-work-as-actor-is-as-hard-as-fighting-in-afghanistan/
Only if he was paid as low as the real troops in the war, had to dodge real bullets and IEDs, had to spend more than "100 days" away from loved ones, had to deal with PTSD, had to come home to bleak job prospects, and, oh the list is so long...
This just before Veteran's Day...
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Herr-Berbunch
11-08-13, 04:01 PM
Absolutely outrageous!
Must be hard on location in your expensive motor home or hotel if you can't just nip from home in your own plane!
I see some serious backtracking in the near future.
Platapus
11-08-13, 04:08 PM
What an incredibly stupid thing to ever say.
What a tool.
Cruise is one of those actors I wonder why they are famous. He plays the same character in all of his movies -- Tom Cruise.
I have never seen a Tom Cruise movie where it would not have been better with another actor in his place.
Cybermat47
11-08-13, 04:24 PM
Being an actor must be hard... but you don't have to kill anyone, and the risk of being killed isn't (usually) in the job description. There goes my respect for him.
Catfish
11-08-13, 04:28 PM
I do not have respect for anyone who is a member of the scientology 'church' :yep:
Cybermat47
11-08-13, 04:36 PM
I do not have respect for anyone who is a member of the scientology 'church' :yep:
I don't generally judge people on their beliefs... although I've heard that Scientology is really screwed up. I'll look more into it...
Jimbuna
11-08-13, 04:42 PM
The guy is a joke.
Skybird
11-08-13, 04:48 PM
Little man, big mouth. And not for the first time.
Ducimus
11-08-13, 04:51 PM
I'd chime in my disgust, but everyone else is already summing it up pretty well.
darius359au
11-08-13, 06:57 PM
Yep ,must be hard to dodge the Bullets and IED's of critics and disgruntled fans.......there's a name for someone like cruise here in australia ,starts with "W" and ends in "ker"..
Tango589
11-08-13, 07:02 PM
Yep ,must be hard to dodge the Bullets and IED's of critics and disgruntled fans.......there's a name for someone like cruise here in australia ,starts with "W" and ends in "ker"..
Not just in Australia...:up:
Cybermat47
11-08-13, 07:07 PM
Not just in Australia...:up:
I think it'll be used a lot in Afghanistan...
CaptainMattJ.
11-08-13, 08:36 PM
Heard he also claimed that his wife divorced him for sheltering their daughter from Scientology. HAHAHAHA i can only wonder why! Might also have something to do with the fact that he's an egotistical, greedy scumbag with a stick up his butt.
Some of the actors have, so called stand in when a dangerous scene has to be shot.
Do the American soldiers have the same?
Markus
Wolferz
11-08-13, 08:58 PM
What do you expect from a Villebilly? Or should I say Villetommy?
After all, he was born and raised in the same Kentucky county that spawned Mitch McConnell.:-?
I'm glad I lived on the opposite side of the joint.
Why is anything Tom Cruise says taken any notice of anyway?:down:
Aktungbby
11-09-13, 03:03 AM
C'mon TARJAK, yer bein' "GLIB'(to Matt Lauer); not on yer post partum depression meds(Brooke Shields); and quit jumpin' up and down on the sofa in yer towering excitement over all this(Oprah Winfrey);:Kaleun_Mad: after all, you do subsim harder than most guys fight in Afghanistan...don't ya? I mean the guy fights gay innuendo(did I actually use that word) lawsuits, fights off postnuptual divorce proceedings, staves off tithing by the Scientologists, deals with one exwife, Nicole Kidman with his 'eyes wide shut', flys a p-51 Mustang and raced cars with Paul Newman...living up to his 'days of thunder'...actually! And, at $20,000,000 a flick, guaranteed to succeed financially if he's on the manifest, just so a production can get bankrolled-boosting the economy, well bless 'im a little cause his daddy abandoned him:wah: and he's still made a go of it all. And considering that he stays in magnificent 'bankrollable' condition year 'round for these gigs(HARD WORK) much like the equally ferocious A-list 'method' types: Christian Bale, Daniel Day Lewis and Russell Crowe and Tom Hanks in Castaway if not Saving Private Ryan, and does his own stunts...notoriously and hasn't been killed, ala my fav, Vic Morrow(and two kids):nope: by a helicopter blade and this worm turns...a little. The little schmuck gets a gentleman's C+ and needs to stick to lines people get paid a lot to write for him. And Playtpus nails it: Al Pacino always plays Al; John Wayne always played John...and only George S. Patton could play George C. Scott??:hmmm:...that's show biz:haha:... and we have again been entertained...:hmph:
Aktungbby
11-09-13, 03:13 AM
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Cybermat47
11-09-13, 03:52 AM
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Your point?
Skybird
11-09-13, 04:58 AM
Points. Plural. I count three of them. ;)
Come in Mr Cruise your brain governor has malfunction again, time for a new one before you add more guff to the world.
Cybermat47
11-09-13, 05:15 AM
Points. Plural. I count three of them. ;)
:har: good one!
Nippelspanner
11-09-13, 05:21 AM
Well, it's nothing new that he is a nutcase. I remember his speech at a Scientology meeting where he talked about Scientology has to "cleanse the world"...
That was...quite something :doh:
I don't generally judge people on their beliefs...
Why not?
Bilge_Rat
11-09-13, 05:43 AM
Why is anything Tom Cruise says taken any notice of anyway?:down:
:agree:
When did we become a culture so obsessed by "Celebrity" that we care or get upset over the personal comments of actors or obsess over their personal lives?
The WW1 RE8 bomber was nicknamed the "Harry Tate" after a famous entertainer. Does anyone even know or care who Harry Tate is?
Jimbuna
11-09-13, 05:50 AM
Why is anything Tom Cruise says taken any notice of anyway?:down:
Only since #1 :)
Wolferz
11-09-13, 06:56 AM
Hollywierd tends to cause these stars to become retarded.:hmmm:
Aktungbby
11-09-13, 01:23 PM
Your point?
NAh! Just where my train-of-thought did a Brahmaputra Express derail:k_confused:-no harm, I'd already clobbered the target 'Top Gun' style- enough overkill!:ping::ping::ping: ambyloid plaque shifts are slower than tectonic plate movement; could be tommy's problem too!:nope:
Madox58
11-09-13, 01:38 PM
I vote Tommy Boy gets a special 'Richard' award from SubSim this year.
:hmmm:
http://thegeneralmonk.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/balls1.jpg
Jimbuna
11-09-13, 04:24 PM
Looks like an http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img89/6936/asshatjp2.gif :)
Aktungbby
11-09-13, 05:16 PM
BE civil HERR Überherr: 'Aßhat' im der Ubootwaffe!:rotfl2:
I have so little respect for Hollywood celebutards, it can hardly drop much lower. If it weren't for Hollywood, movies and TV, I'm thinking these peoples' primary occupation would be village idiot.
Madox58
11-09-13, 08:12 PM
I'm thinking these peoples' primary occupation would be village idiot.
HEY! I don't need any competition!!
:stare:
Cybermat47
11-09-13, 09:55 PM
Looks like an http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img89/6936/asshatjp2.gif :)
I think they're testicles :eek:
Wolferz
11-09-13, 11:37 PM
Balding scrotum head?
I always wondered what Katie saw in him...
Mouth like a sailor. Always spewing seamen.
You can't handle the truth!!!
nikimcbee
11-10-13, 01:47 AM
I blame the scientology.
u crank
11-10-13, 09:29 AM
I blame the scientology.
You're being kind. :O:
Aktungbby
11-10-13, 01:52 PM
I think they're testicles :eek:
Before descending:down:
Balding scrotum head?
I always wondered what Katie saw in him...
Mouth like a sailor. Always spewing seamen.
You can't handle the truth!!!
Ya left out SMEGMA!:rotfl2:
Onkel Neal
11-10-13, 06:28 PM
Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. It's always important to get the full context of the discussion before judging.
http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/09/tom-cruise-did-not-make-widely-reported-claim-that-acting-is-as-tough-as-combat/?hpt=hp_t3
The comments come in a section of the deposition where Cruise is being asked about time he has spent away from daughter Suri, either because of film or other commitments.
"Now your counsel has publicly equated your absence from Suri for these extended periods of time as being analogous to someone fighting in Afghanistan," opposing counsel asks him. "Are you aware of that?"
"I didn't hear the Afghanistan," Cruise replies. "That's what it feels like and certainly on this last movie it was brutal. it was brutal."
"Do you believe that the situations are the same?" Cruise is asked.
"Oh come on," Cruise says, "you know, we're making a movie."
Madox58
11-10-13, 06:38 PM
Oh Crap!!
What a way to shoot a good rant down!
:haha:
So who's the next target and how much time do we have to derail the whole thread?
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Oh Crap!!
What a way to shoot a good rant down!
:haha:
So who's the next target and how much time do we have to derail the whole thread?
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All aboard! Again who cares what TC says? Let's talk about weather.
Platapus
11-10-13, 08:49 PM
It's always important to get the full context of the discussion before judging.
What???
This is GT. Jumping to conclusions and flying off the handle is the only exercise we get.
Getting the facts before posting? Sheesh. I don't know where you get this stuff from. :nope:
:D
Onkel Neal
11-10-13, 08:54 PM
:haha:
What is interesting about this situation is how the original link in my OP has been changed (not by subsim) by Fox News, apparently, without a mention by Fox News of its own erroneous report, merely that it was an "update"...
My lord, does this mean airs news that is not true? That it does not do 'due diligence' in vetting it stories? That it is not fair and balanced? Oh, what shall we do now that Fox News has been shown to have feet of clay?...
Maybe we should look to that "liberal" news organization CNN from which the link posted by Neal derives?...
The original story was accurate as far as what had been publicly released to the media at that time. The opposing attorney who asked Cruise to clarify his Afghan statement did him a big favor; Cruise's own counsel should have acted on their own to clarify what was obviouly an incendiary remark...
I still have ill feeling about Cruise and his lawyers' references to the military and actively serving troops. From the CNN link:
Moss took issue with a magazine headline referring to Cruise having broken a promise to attend his daughter's first day of school. "But the truth, as you know, is that Mr. Cruise is a devoted father, who simply happens to be working in London on film. By your reasoning, any actor who is shooting on location in a foreign country could be charged with child abandonment, as could all of the mothers and fathers serving overseas in the military."
[Bolding is mine]
Tom, et al, you're not a soldier, you're not suffering anywhere near as the troops in the field or their families, and you're not scoring any points with the public. Some people put their foot in their mouth; you're nibbiling high up on your calf...
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Stealhead
11-10-13, 11:55 PM
Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. It's always important to get the full context of the discussion before judging.
http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/09/tom-cruise-did-not-make-widely-reported-claim-that-acting-is-as-tough-as-combat/?hpt=hp_t3
I was going to say Tom Criuse has done USO tours and visited wounded troops things of this nature so I highly doubt that he would say that in all honesty.
Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. ....
Thats horrible.
Shame on him.
AVGWarhawk
11-11-13, 12:08 PM
Why is anything Tom Cruise says taken any notice of anyway?:down:
Educated question! And a damn fine one!
Never liked the guy, he's a lousy actor and he has always been abit of Richard, so this doesn't surprise me at all.
Kptlt. Neuerburg
11-11-13, 12:23 PM
Why is anything Tom Cruise says taken any notice of anyway?:down: Its simple, its because he's famous. Any time a celebrity so much as sneezes the media is all over the place with it!
Sailor Steve
11-11-13, 12:29 PM
Thats horrible.
Shame on him.
:rotfl2: :rock:
Catfish
11-11-13, 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2139727#post2139727)
Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. ....
Thats horrible.
Shame on him.
:rotfl2:
But he's still a member of Scientology :hmph:
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Armistead
11-11-13, 02:49 PM
you guys have lost that loving feeling......
Madox58
11-11-13, 03:19 PM
you guys have lost that loving feeling......
Well, it's Neals' fault!
We had a perfectly good GT scalping going on until he posted that
'Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. It's always important to get the full context of the discussion before judging.'
blah blah blah stuff!!
:nope:
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Threw me off my Game plan!
:dead:
Educated question! And a damn fine one!
Thank you sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar and there aren't many of us left. ;)
Aktungbby
11-12-13, 01:52 PM
Well, it may be that Mr. Cruise was misquoted. It's always important to get the full context of the discussion before judging.
this worm turns...a little. The little schmuck gets a gentleman's C+ and needs to stick to lines people get paid a lot to write for him.
I was going to say Tom Criuse has done USO tours and visited wounded troops things of this nature so I highly doubt that he would say that in all honesty.
Mount up and away boys! The worm 'done turned' and the "cool head cavalry has arrived" ...damn!...fun's over...till next time:Kaleun_Salivating:
Jimbuna
11-12-13, 03:19 PM
Thank you sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar and there aren't many of us left. ;)
True that :smug:
Wolferz
11-13-13, 04:09 PM
Maybe Tom was referring to the hours an actor must work.
Clearly he doesn't have a clue about doing more before noon than most do all day.:hmmm: But he gets paid a lot more than military folk so what's he yelping about?:down:
Herr-Berbunch
11-13-13, 05:22 PM
I see Marky Mark has made his mark, for the good, during the premier of Lone Survivor.
I'm not going to link to it because of the language used, but I'm sure you can all use a search engine if you need to.
Apart from Jim. That's later on on the course. :har:
Maybe Tom was referring to the hours an actor must work.
Clearly he doesn't have a clue about doing more before noon than most do all day.:hmmm: But he gets paid a lot more than military folk so what's he yelping about?:down:
I always get a good laugh and a little annoyed when I hear actors complaining about the long hours on the set. I have worked on projects for film production companies in the past and I can affirm a lot of the time spent on set for the actors is waiting time. The actual work being done on the set is being done by the crew who set up the equipment and prepare the next scene. The main reason the work takes so long is two-fold: the 'artistic vision(s) of the director or producers and the myriad union toes one must not step on (the unions are notoriously territorial). The crew is constantly having to deal with 'artistic' changes from the director and then putting them into action, a process drawn out by the need to obey all the minute rules of authority the various unions follow. An example would be moving an extension cord say, six inches out from under a piece of the set. No one other than the apppropriate, designated union member can move the cord; if a carpenter, lighting grip, production assistant, or even the director attempts to move the cord, all territorial hell breaks loose. It is constantly a delicate dance of not stepping on toes...
People who haven't seen an actual film shoot don't realise it takes several hours to shoot, say, a 5 minute scene. THe other day, I was on my way home and decided to stop by the 24-hour drugstore to pick up some items for the next day. Across the street from the drugstore, and a bit up the block, is the Nollywood Palladium, a famous concert venue. They were doing a very late night shoot and had a mass of equipment, crew, and extras all along Sunset Blvd. in front of the theater. I asked someone who was standing on my side of the street if he knew what film or show they were shooting. He said he didn't know, but he had been watching them for a couple of hours and, so far nothing had happened. He pointed out a man, a stunt performer, who was suspended from a crane tower on a zip line that passed about 20 feet up, directly in front of the Palladium's front entrance. The scene was supposed to show a crowd of people (the extras) walking into the venue as the man flew by on the zip line. I watched for at least a half hour more before they actually started to shoot. The call of "Action" was given, the extras started to move into the theater, and then man flew by on the zip line, all this taking maybe 20 seconds. THe man hung like a pinata from a harness at the end of the zip line while the director decided if he had the shot he wanted. He didn't; so the man was hauled back up the zip line to the top of the crane tower and hung there for about another 15 minutes while the scene was reset. Again, "Action", again, the stuntman zipped down the zip line, again, he hung there at the end of the line for the diretor's decision. Not good enough, apparently, because he was hauled back up the line to wait while the scene was again reset...
The above process was repeated about 3 or 4 more times before I got bored and decided to go into the store. As I walked away, they were hauling the poor stuntman back up the zip line for yet another take. Counting the time I watched and the amount of time the person I had talked to had waited before me, several hours had passed to shoot a scene that would be maybe 1 or 2minutes on screen. At no time were any of the principal actors on the set. If they were there at all, they were in their trailers, probably lounging or taking care of other business. If they had been there, they would not have been called to the set until just before the scene was to be shot, unlike the crew and the extras who had to be on set during the whole long, drawn out setup process. If a principal actor is to appear in a shot, they are rarely there during set up, their place being taken by a 'stand-in', aperson of similar build and look as the principal actor. The 'stand'in' has to stand there or move about in a manner similar to what the principal will do when the actual scene is shot...
A lot of the actors I knew or talked to would complain more about the boredom than any actual rigors of the filming process. Unless one is on a location where the conditions are arduous, say filiming in the desert on in other extreme weather, there really is little stress on the principals. Even in bad conditions, they usually have nice, comfortable accomodations in which to retreat while the crew and extras have to endure otherwise...
And, I've never heard of crew or extras getting paid millions of dollar for ther work...
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Not to mention the additional multiple takes they might be required to do to get different camera angles or lighting changes. And the 1min of footage can then end up on the cutting room floor at the Director's or editor's discretion if its not seen to be crucial to the story.
Testify the truth, brother...
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d@rk51d3
11-14-13, 05:49 PM
:agree:
When did we become a culture so obsessed by "Celebrity" that we care or get upset over the personal comments of actors or obsess over their personal lives?
The WW1 RE8 bomber was nicknamed the "Harry Tate" after a famous entertainer. Does anyone even know or care who Harry Tate is?
He was a member here a few years back too.
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