OS X maverics now available

[desertstriker]

OS X mavericks was released yesterday and is a free upgrade! however it seems apple has abandoned their big cat name theme.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/os-x-mavericks-release-date-price_n_4143829.html

[Platapus]

I just recently installed Snow Leopard!!! :o

[desertstriker]

:othat is behind... no offense. Snow leopard was 3:huh: releases ago and is no longer supported, even Lion support will start to be removed starting next month.

addendum- though at this point i would say stay with SL becaue it would cost to much to upgrade and there is no guarantee your system would be able to handle the newer mac OSs and it would cost more money than it is worth to upgrade.

[Platapus]

My mac mini has been coughing up blood recently. I am probably going to get a new one in the next few months.

[the_tyrant]

Apple's support policy just changed:

http://www.zdnet.com/mavericks-the-end-of-macs-in-the-enterprise-7000022410/

take note of that, and don't get caught with an un supported version

[desertstriker]

An Apple spokesperson told ZDNet the company has not changed its update policy but said some older OS X versions go unpatched for architectural reasons. Apple declined to respond to a request for more details about their security update policy or for when the most recently disclosed vulnerabilities would be patched in Mountain Lion.Key phrases

but said some older OS X versions go unpatched for architectural reasons - this is already done the general rule with mac is current + previous release

Apple declined to respond to a request for more details about their security update policy or for when the most recently disclosed vulnerabilities would be patched in Mountain Lion - that has already been taken care of an update was already released

ZDNet Larry Seltzer's found that while Apple announced that Mac OS X 10.9, Mavericks fixed numerous security bugs Apple did not issue these same security fixes for Mountain Lion or other older versions.This is incorrect there was an security update released for mountain lion and i patched it (yesterday as well) before doing updating to mavericks because another general rule that is relatively unspoken is to install ALL updates for your previous version before upgrading.

Yes, Mavericks looks pretty darn good and the upgrade is, outside of the time it takes, as smooth as silk. I've installed it and I like it.He has upgraded so how will he know what has happened with Mountain lion if he no longer has it. hmmmm?
also it only took me 10 minutes to download nad an hour to install. and you can continue working while downloading so even if it takes 3 hours you are not SOL in that time

What's that? The Mac has no security problems? Please, ever hear of the Flashback Trojan? Icefog? Backdoor:OSX/KitM.A? You would have if you'd been paying attention to Apple security. They're all successful Mac malware programs
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So, what's the problem? Well, I'll tell you what the problem is. If I'm a CIO, I'm being forced by security concerns to upgrade my users' Macs to an untested operating system. Maybe my company's programs will work with it, maybe they won't. I don't know.well one would have to be a bloody idiot NOT to have some sort of AV on your mac anyways!!!! and yes there is antivirus for them out there

No, Macs don't have the dozens of new malware attackers every month that Windows PCs have... yet. But then, we never had a major, widely used Mac OS without the latest security fixes either.

While correct where the hell is the antimalware and firewalls and AV software to block these attacks? as stated above you can get software to block these attacks JUST like you can for windows

Microsoft may really, really want you to move to Windows 8.1, but they're still supporting Windows XPSupport was supposed to end this year but has been pushed back to early 2014.


Macs never had a true enterprise solution in the first place to even think otherwise proves how ignorant one is of mac. Sure individuals could buy their macs or companies buy a lot of them and do what they needed but in reality unlike windows there was no "enterprise edition". However it is also assuming that you are relying on the "security through obscurity" mindset that is still very predominant among mac users which is NO longer the case and has led to the malware becoming successful if you truly wanted that mindset linux is the way to go at this point in time. I think the article is written more to bash the mac OS than anything looking at his previous articles he seems to write most about linux while rarely writing about windows or apple at ALL.

No IT department ever wants to face a choice like thisno thay do not but as i have said before any IT department should have AV and antimalware on their disk Image and not going to put full faith in the trust in "security through obscurity" BS.

Also i looked at the so called apples released security issues list is addressing the holes that others found and should have sent through official mac channels. i quote the main page
"The mailing lists hosted on lists.apple.com are for users and developers to communicate with each other. By joining these lists, you can share experiences, questions, and comments with others. While Apple employees monitor the lists, Apple doesn't guarantee that questions will be answered. The mailing lists are not a replacement for formal support or bug reporting procedures. The lists are used for informal communication and Apple cannot commit to fixes or responses to postings on any of the mailing lists."

And before anybody pulls the I am a mac lover card I am not a mac lover however i understand a little more about these things since I am working towards a degree in IT and have recently started using a mac to learn it inside and out so my info should be more up to date than the .