Opening Map causes CTD

[Oleander]

I've been fighting with this problem for nearly a week now and its getting aggravating. It isn't persistent which make it more obnoxious, but there are times when I can play the game and open the map and everything will be fine. Other times I can launch the game and try to open the map and get a CTD, I hadn't changed anything but I can't figured out what it is. I've tried changing and moving mods but it seems to be random. I'm starting to wonder if NewUI 7.5 Real Nav has a glitch that seemed to be the only thing that made any difference. Here's my mod list btw.

Accurate German Flags
sobers game loading tips V8 SH5
DBM Background Video
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - Wave Mechanics - Gale (Improved)
DynEnv v2.9 - Sobers Best Ever Tweaks - Wakes Fix
DynEnv v2.9 - 10.I Seafloor (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.a.I Sea Plants - Atlantic Kelp Forests (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.b.I Sea Plants - Med Posidonia Meadows (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.c.I Sea Plants - Coral Reefs (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 4.a Camera Filters - Realistic Colors
DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
Less Annoying Stopwatch Ticking - LAST - v. 01.00 by AvM
Messervy_s_gramophone_pack1
Ferocious Fire SFX
SH5_7A_Conning_Fix
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
SH5 Longer Repairs v.1
Depth Charge Fix Reduced Explosion Range
Depth Charge Range Fix
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
MFCMCCDLite
German U-Boat Crew Language Pack
AI_sub_crew_1_0_2_TheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision
Church's NavMap v1.0 - Blue Waters
Emtgufs Aspect ratio 16_9
Submarine's .sim&cfg (modified for engine ratio + independent control patches).7z
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1
IRAI_0_0_39_Inertia_Damage
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.3 by vdr1981
SkyBaron's Leigh Light for SH5 1.1
Expanded Navies by Cybermat47 v.1.0.01
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
Trevally Tutorials - All v0.2 (for TDW UI)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
Trevally TDC Help v2
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Shadow Improvement ModLR
Warfox deck crew always whispering SH5 German Version
Targor's SH5 Wooden Lifeboats ver. 0.3
Danevangs PS 1.0 Common VIIC Shadow Maps
Danevangs PS 1.0 VIIC-std Alberich
Nauticalwolf's_Damage_and_Torpedo_UI(g)_Mod_v1.1
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.3
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_gap_Sextant_Mask_Eye_Reflection
SH5 External Cargo 1.0
Water reflections intensity decrease with fog and clouds by TheDarkWraith
Speech Recognition_MiTons_NewUI_Editon_v0.4.1_english
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
Sobers 3D waves
sobers rusty deck pack SH5
Stormys DBSM SH5 v1.3 Basemod
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
sobers no footstep sound mod
SubFlags_0_0_8_byTheDarkWraith
Command Keys 1.03
All sounds included
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
DBSM_Music_1_0_4
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm

[vdr1981]

Do you use generic patcher? Try to disable render patches, all of them for a start...

Also I would say that your mod list is almost completely wrong...Take a look at Sober's mega mod thread for correct order...

[Oleander]

I had the render patches enabled and now that you mention it they were one of the most recent things I enabled. I'll re-patch and see if it works.

And I know that list is screwed up, I've been moving stuff around for the past 2 weeks trying to figure out if it was mod related. I'll go back and fix it before I try again.

[gap]

@ Oleander

Yes, now that vdr said it, I seem to remember that some of the render patches could cause your problem. Probably Volodya knows better than us :yep:

[Oleander]

Looks like that may have fixed it, now if I could just get open horizons to work.

[vdr1981]

Just re install your mod list...Right now it's a mess .:D To much old , i think, and unnecessary mods, mods canceling each other ect...:yep:

[Oleander]

Yeah, I've had to go back through a bunch of them to find out which ones are outdated.