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Jimbuna

10-19-13, 11:57 AM

Can lightning strike twice or is this the devil at play?

Campaign group Amnesty International has urged Iran not to go ahead with a repeat execution for a drug smuggler who survived a botched hanging.
The condemned man, named as Alireza M, was found alive in a morgue after being hanged at a jail in the north-eastern city of Bojnord last week.
He is now being nursed to recovery in preparation for his repeat execution.
"The verdict was the death sentence, and it will be carried out once the man gets well again," an official said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24563453

eddie

10-19-13, 12:59 PM

I can't imagine for one minute what it would be like to go through that twice! Knowing what is going to happen again with that rope around your neck, the shear amount of fear would be beyond belief!

mapuc

10-19-13, 01:17 PM

I could be wrong.

If I remember it correctly some American criminal that have been sentenced to death was resurrected after he got an heart attack

I can't remember the years and in which state.

I do remember it was in USA and the nineties ring a bell

Markus

periunder

10-19-13, 01:26 PM

I'm pretty sure its against Shiite Islamic law to execute someone twice. Same goes for stoning. If they survive, then the punishment ends.

And the devil has nothing to do with it.

Jimbuna

10-19-13, 01:39 PM

You sure?

I mean...has he told you?

periunder

10-19-13, 01:40 PM

I mean...has he told you?

He doesn't exist. That's why.

:haha:

Jimbuna

10-19-13, 01:45 PM

He doesn't exist. That's why.

:haha:

Not possible...I married his sister :hmmm:

periunder

10-19-13, 01:50 PM

Not possible...I married his sister :hmmm:

:k_rofl:

Jimbuna

10-19-13, 01:51 PM

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6356/av129190fjwl3.gif

eddie

10-19-13, 02:24 PM

I dare you to show that little remark to your wife Jim:D

mapuc

10-19-13, 02:25 PM

Not possible...I married his sister :hmmm:

Oh you poor friend what about the Mother-in-law

Markus

Jimbuna

10-19-13, 04:04 PM

I dare you to show that little remark to your wife Jim:D

I may be mad but I'm certainly not suicidal :o

Jimbuna

10-19-13, 04:06 PM

Oh you poor friend what about the Mother-in-law

Markus

She's a little senile these days so she gets a free pass :03:

Skybird

10-19-13, 04:21 PM

I'm pretty sure its against Shiite Islamic law to execute someone twice.
That is correct.

Platapus

10-19-13, 06:52 PM

This is why it is common to word the sentence: You shall be hanged by the neck until you are dead.

An error in declaring someone dead does not affect the sentence. If, for what ever reason, the person is not dead, the sentence has not been fully carried out.

A malfunction of the execution apparatus, including a human error, does not invalidate the original sentence.

For humanitarian reasons, it may be decided to spare the prisoner the anguish of re-experiencing the execution action. But that is a choice of the state, not a guarantee to the prisoner.

Cybermat47

10-19-13, 07:02 PM

I'm pretty sure its against Shiite Islamic law to execute someone twice. Same goes for stoning. If they survive, then the punishment ends.

And the devil has nothing to do with it.

That makes sense. I guess Allah spared the guy's life.

Cybermat47

10-19-13, 09:08 PM

THERE IS NO ALLAH;:huh: NO PARADISE AND NO 72 VIRGINS nuff said!:nope::/\\!!

I was just saying what they might see it as...

mapuc

10-20-13, 08:20 AM

Cybermat47

10-20-13, 08:22 AM

When he said this, I thought what a disappointment for this terrorist, when he gets to his destination place

Markus

Well, at least the people with raisin fetishes will be happy :har:

Jimbuna

10-20-13, 09:31 AM

Many years ago I was a documentary on Swedish TV. I can't remember the title and what it really was about. It was somehow about Islam and in this documentary a scholar from a Islamic school said that the old Arabic word for Virgin also could mean raisins

When he said this, I thought what a disappointment for this terrorist, when he gets to his destination place

Markus

Well there you go then, a perfect match....the terrorist supplies the nuts and someone else provides the raisins :hmmm:

http://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/is-bin/intershop.static/WFS/TWL-B2C-Site/TWL-B2C/en_NZ/product/large/d3/a8/9416050461004_l.jpg (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=TsGXPjwyKcXNCM&tbnid=Gvi70JqU1YPvPM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thewarehouse.co.nz%2Fred%2Fca talog%2Fproduct%2FValue-Pack-Nuts-And-Raisins%3FSKU%3D383145&ei=TOljUuaQIMSe0wX-rYDgDA&bvm=bv.54934254,d.d2k&psig=AFQjCNF9cEGGKw7vzvMEuJS7lz-AcovWzA&ust=1382365888819261)

periunder

10-20-13, 01:18 PM

Oh yeah?!:hmph:

NO he did'nt:nope:

Yeah he do; other wise how ya gonna tell the bad guys apart?:shucks:

Good likeness ol' buddy and welcome to the CLAN:-? they don't say 'damn inlaws' fer nuthin':woot:

THERE IS NO ALLAH;:huh: NO PARADISE AND NO 72 VIRGINS nuff said!:nope::/\\!!

It gets better...

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Screen-shot-2011-06-26-at-1.58.56-PM.png

How much better can it get? The suspense is killing me.

Garion

10-20-13, 02:23 PM

I wonder what the martyrs would do (if) when they got into heaven it turned out that the 72 virgins were all male? :o

I'll get my coat...:woot:

Gary

Madox58

10-20-13, 02:59 PM

periunder

10-20-13, 03:05 PM

They "DON'T ask and DON'T tell" in paradise! :nope:just pick up your Viagra and wings on the way in at the pearly gate and 'FLY UNITED':woot::Kaleun_Salivating:
This was disturbing. :yeah:

Jimbuna

10-20-13, 03:14 PM

I wonder what the martyrs would do (if) when they got into heaven it turned out that the 72 virgins were all male? :o

I'll get my coat...:woot:

Gary

Pick mine up as well while your at it :)

periunder

10-20-13, 03:38 PM

Reminds me of the 3 Bandits hung in Texas years ago.
Each was asked if they had any last words.
1st Guy said Viva Mexico!
They strung him up and swung him out over the Rio Grande.
He slipped out of the noose and swam to the Mexican side.
Same with the second Guy.

3rd Guy they asked, 'Any last words?'
He said, 'Can you tighten up the noose? I can't swim.'
:haha:

Need better jokes? (http://www.jokes.com/)
Because you left us hanging on this one.

:har::har::har::har::har::har:
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

soopaman2

10-20-13, 04:41 PM

Anyone who is willing to kill themselves over an invisible spook in the sky, deserves whatever ridicule/justice they get.

No Christians, you are not exempt, as a matter of fact you started it...Crusades anyone, they were not bothering you, but nations united to bother them. Behind a Pope, do some history on the pope, and antipopes, and reasons for antipopes, and schisms...

It is fascinating...

Maybe we deserve what we get.

Anyone ever think about that?

periunder

10-20-13, 04:53 PM

soopaman2

10-20-13, 05:04 PM

The plot thickens....

I'm atheist, but It could be argued that the Muslims started everything with their incursion into the Iberian Peninsula in the 8th Century.

I think I was more speaking on the horrid corruptness of the Papacy, and how it used its powers to manipulate nations, in the name of some invisible spook in the sky.

Early Christianity was very "competitive" as lords got glory for conquering heathens, just look at Richard the Lionheart, a hero of the Brits, yet knew not one word of English (he spoke french), made his name on Muslim blood, and not kindness to the English people. Nope, he barely identified with them, (had no problem taxing them) yet he is some kinda folk hero.

I blame him for 9/11!:O:

periunder

10-20-13, 06:36 PM

I think I was more speaking on the horrid corruptness of the Papacy, and how it used its powers to manipulate nations, in the name of some invisible spook in the sky.

Early Christianity was very "competitive" as lords got glory for conquering heathens, just look at Richard the Lionheart, a hero of the Brits, yet knew not one word of English (he spoke french), made his name on Muslim blood, and not kindness to the English people. Nope, he barely identified with them, (had no problem taxing them) yet he is some kinda folk hero.

I blame him for 9/11!:O:

You also said: "Maybe we deserve what we get".

Don't throw everyone into the pile of Christians. I have nothing to do with this jihad/crusade.

It's probably best I watch on the sidelines as they kill each other off.

Tribesman

10-20-13, 07:17 PM

just look at Richard the Lionheart, a hero of the Brits, yet knew not one word of English (he spoke French)
Well in fairness the Anglo-Norman he spoke was probably less of a mouthful than the "English" like.....

Forrþrihht anan se time comm þatt ure Drihhtin wollde ben borenn i þiss middellærd forr all mannkinne need he chæs himm sone kinnessmenn all swillke summ he wollde and whær he wollde borenn ben he chæs all att hiss wille.

BrucePartington

10-20-13, 07:46 PM

No Christians, you are not exempt, as a matter of fact you started it...Crusades anyone, they were not bothering you, but nations united to bother them. Behind a Pope, do some history on the pope, and antipopes, and reasons for antipopes, and schisms...

It is fascinating...

Maybe we deserve what we get.

Anyone ever think about that?

I have, many times. And came to the same conclusions.

The plot thickens....

I'm atheist, but It could be argued that the Muslims started everything with their incursion into the Iberian Peninsula in the 8th Century.
From which we (in my little corner) got many words and place names to this day.
They represented the summit of civilization advance (especially so between 9th and 12th centuries) after the collapse of the western Roman Empire, which left Europe gliding down into the infamous Dark Ages, further darkened by Christianity.

Then came Al-Ghazali, and the Muslim scientific golden age died. Incidentally it was in the 12th century that my country became independent, and started conquering Muslim territory to the south, until finally Al-Gharb (meaning The West) was conquered. A place well know to modern era Brits :03:
With Al-Ghazali the Muslim Dark Ages began. And the rest is history.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDAT98eEN5Q

Btw, the numerals on your cell phone keypad are Arabic.

I think I was more speaking on the horrid corruptness of the Papacy, and how it used its powers to manipulate nations, in the name of some invisible spook in the sky.

Early Christianity was very "competitive" as lords got glory for conquering heathens,(snip)

"We" even had a go at Jerusalem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_%281099%29
Quote: "The Siege of Jerusalem took place from June 7 to July 15, 1099 during the First Crusade. During it, the Crusaders stormed and captured the city from Fatimid Egypt. The Siege is notable for the massacre that followed, during which much of Jerusalem's population was slaughtered."

Don't throw everyone into the pile of Christians. I have nothing to do with this jihad/crusade.

It's probably best I watch on the sidelines as they kill each other off.

Unfortunately, according to their belief system, all non-Muslims are infidels, regardless of creed or lack of one.

Skybird

10-20-13, 08:17 PM

On the crusades, I recommend this book I finished reading just weeks ago. The author radically cleans some of the masochistic myths that are so popular in guilt-ridden Europe and America. It was translated and published in German just this year.

http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Battalions-The-Case-Crusades/dp/0061582603/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1382317329&sr=8-1&keywords=gods+batallions

I'm sick and tired of this one-sided biased nonsense about evil villains from Europe seeking wealth and suppressing innocent Muslims invaders that did no harm. People simply fade out all the events that lead to why the crusades have been called for. They were triggerd as a desperate attenmpt to militarily push back an aggressor posing a huge threat and waging a war of endless attacks since a very long time already. Most noblemen and knights did not go to become rich, but indeed had to sell all they owned in family property and went into personal bancruptcy to finance their equipment and their trip to the Unholy Land.

So very boring to be confronted with the same propaganda myths time and time again. Grenada was a golden age of Muslim tolerance. Sahaladin was such a tolerant and noble king and dealt so fairly with the undeserving infidel dirtbags. The crusades were so evil and uncalled for and such a crime against innocent Islam. - Grenada was haunted by progroms and deeply rooting discrimination of Jews and Christians, who saw massive intellectual abuse and saw the fruits of their labour beign claimed by Muslim rulers (thats where the claim comes from that Islam once saved Europe, which is the climax of hilarious forging of history here). And Sahaladin - was a grim and violent suppressor of his own people, and massacred war prisoners without any military need already when still serving a Syrian king and long before Richard landed in the Unholy Land, he also was a very unforgiving hunter and suppressor of reformists and "alternative" Muslim thinkers, who got killed in significant numbers by his orders. And the crusades were a desperate attempt to launch a counteroffensive against an invader and agressor who marched against Europe since long time, unprovoked, and raising a massive threat to Europe itself. Most noblemen from Europe going there, economically ruined themselves and their families by doing so.

Saying that today can get you sued for hate crimes.