Subsim Meet?

[Bubblehead1980]

Is there subsim meet planned in the US this year or next? Would be nice to meet everyone work with and even those spar with lol.

[fireftr18]

I'm all for a meeting too. I vote Charleston, SC.

[the_tyrant]

Toronto!

I'll bring the beer!

[GoldenRivet]

A meet here in the US would be nice.

I have always been, and i still remain a proponent of the "regional subsim groups" if such a thing could be organized and interest maintained, it could mean a lot for more localized meets for a lot of users.

[Bubblehead1980]

I'm all for a meeting too. I vote Charleston, SC.


I agree, love that place.

[Cybermat47]

What about the International Fleet Review in Sydney? That's on pretty soon, and as a group interested in naval warfare it would seem appropriate.

[Stealhead]

What about the International Fleet Review in Sydney? That's on pretty soon, and as a group interested in naval warfare it would seem appropriate.


Nothing against Australia but do you have any idea how much a trip there costs?Unless you live in Asia or the Pacific Islands it is very expensive.

From Florida the cheapest for a round trip with two layovers is $1,870 and that seat is in the back by the coffee maker and I hate coffee.

I can fly to London for $969 the rest of Europe for around the same the costs for a European to fly to the US is about the same.

From Europe it would be maybe 400 or 500 less for the tickets and that is just the flight.

Look at the bright side as an Aussie you can go on trip to some very exotic places in SE Asia for a fairly low cost.

It is most fair if you are going to have one subsim meet every so often that it be in Europe.It is very hard to organize such meets though many busy schedules to deal with.

I think the super small handful of member meets are cool less schedules to deal with.

I have a half sister that is an Aussie (she born there in 1968 US Army dad Aussie mother) at some point when I get the time and money saved up I am going to go on a long trip to visit her I can stay some of the time at her house which makes the trip a little cheaper unless I wear out my welcome.When I do(go on this trip) I'll come by and visit you Cyber and the other Aussie subsimmers.This will be a good while yet though not until my daughter is out of high school and she is just 9 now.

[Cybermat47]

Nothing against Australia but do you have any idea how much a trip there costs?Unless you live in Asia or the Pacific Islands it is very expensive.

From Florida the cheapest for a round trip is $1,870 and that seat is in the back by the coffee maker.

Non stop the lowest price is 2,011 US dollars.

From Europe it would be maybe 400 or 500 less and that is just the flight.

I see your point :/\\!!

[Betonov]

I say let's rent some boats and sail down the Adriatic coast.
If we're dumb enough we might even reach Egypt.

[Bubblehead1980]

What about the International Fleet Review in Sydney? That's on pretty soon, and as a group interested in naval warfare it would seem appropriate.


That would be amazing.When is it? Annual thing? A international trip will be difficult for me until summer due to classes though, I graduate in the spring so next year around this time or in summer would be possible.

[TarJak]

What about the International Fleet Review in Sydney? That's on pretty soon, and as a group interested in naval warfare it would seem appropriate.

As it starts tomorrow I doubt many international subsimmers would get here in time unless they were leaving now.

[Feuer Frei!]

Is there subsim meet planned in the US this year or next?

You are obviously not aware that Neal has a VIP Guest planned for the meet.
Hint: He will, apart from the congratulatory speech to Neal, also give a speech about the PBHS and how war was averted in the Middle East by him :haha:

Toronto!

Yea but....but that's in Canada! :O:

[Jimbuna]

London must be due a turn surely :hmm2:

[TarJak]

London must be due a turn surely :hmm2:

Would be great if that happened around July next year. Will be in the UK for my nieces wedding. Just up the road at Chelmsford.

[kranz]

Would be great if that happened around July next year. Will be in the UK for my nieces wedding. Just up the road at Chelmsford.
wow....give him an inch and he'll take a mile.

how about...Poland, Upper Silesia, Myslowice?
(your guess is correct - I live there) :)

[Jimbuna]

Would be great if that happened around July next year. Will be in the UK for my nieces wedding. Just up the road at Chelmsford.

Of course much would be dependant on the Onkel, his availability and his spare time :hmmm:

No harm in wishing though :)

[Armistead]

I'm all for a meeting too. I vote Charleston, SC.


Second that vote, so much history there and Patriot's Point for WW2. Maybe a few of us that deplore yankee aggression could have a southern style Subsim meet.

We could reenact Fort Sumter. I know some reenactors that have working cannon. I know I wouldn't mind taking a few long range pot shots at a few members here.

[Armistead]

London must be due a turn surely :hmm2:


We could all stay at your house if you would pay to fly us there. Your wife a good cook?

[Jimbuna]

We could all stay at your house if you would pay to fly us there. Your wife a good cook?

You can sleep with Louie he seems your type, his booster is due on Saturday so he should be safe.

[Penguin]

I'm up to it. We had a mini-meet in my hometown last year, we were only three members, but it was very pleasant and fun to meet them in flesh and blood.:up:
US or UK are fine to me, they have tons of naval attractions and I'd love to invade both again.


I'm all for a meeting too. I vote Charleston, SC.

The only downsize would be that imbeciles like me would probably land in WV and wonder where the submarines are... :88)

[Herr-Berbunch]

I know this has been mooted before but London, or thereabouts would be great, there are some proper history musea - not just the last couple of hundred years. :O: And Pompey/Gosport is just a couple of hours drive away with HMS Victory, Mary Rose, HMS Warrior, the 112 year old sub Holland 1, the midget sub X24, and HMS Alliance. With Duxford and Hendon for the aviation crowd. Maybe stretch the legs to Liverpool to see the desecrated U-534. . .

[Jimbuna]

The biggest obstacle is the organisational element (many of us are busy in RL) and the fact that you usually get a healthy number of 'yes I'll go' which ultimately dwindles down to less than half for one reason/excuse or another.

Personally speaking I've only been to the one in Houston, organised by Neal in 2008 and that was really something else, meeting Neal, Steve, Jason, Chad, Dan, three Grey Wolves (plus one wife) and too many more to mention.

The one in Denmark was one that clashed with my 25th wedding anniversary so no feeble excuse there.

A SS Meet is something I would recommend everyone should attend because it is a unique opportunity to meet people in person but that might also be a reason for some people not attending....certainly their loss, not mine.

[the_tyrant]

If it was up to me, I'd look around for a cheap cruise or all inclusive resort. Last time I went to a forum meet, a few guys ended up puking all over the host's back yard.


Considering that if we don't go in the peak season, cruises are pretty reasonably priced. We can just meet up in texas or florida, hop on a cruise ship, and sail out to see for a week or so.

[nikimcbee]

I'd vote London, if we had some cheap accommodations. Jim or Herr-Berr's flat:hmmm:. Anywhere in the US would be cool.

If you want to see ships, the Fall River subsim meet up can't be beat.

Neal's house would be cool:
BBQ:up:, I need some more BB35 stuff, anyway.

Seattle/Portland:
Bremerton Naval Base, USS Turner Joy, Keyport Undersea Museum:woot:Boeing museum!
(Portland)See/ride(?) PT-658,:D, USS Blueback
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Evergreen museum (see Spruce Goose:up:)

That's what the Northwest has to offer.:hmmm:

I know this has been mooted before but London, or thereabouts would be great, there are some proper history musea - not just the last couple of hundred years. :O: And Pompey/Gosport is just a couple of hours drive away with HMS Victory, Mary Rose, HMS Warrior, the 112 year old sub Holland 1, the midget sub X24, and HMS Alliance. With Duxford and Hendon for the aviation crowd. Maybe stretch the legs to Liverpool to see the desecrated U-534. . .

This.:up:

Fall river=
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=173845

If we did it during Portland's rose festival, arranging a ride on the PT-boat would be a lot easier.

[BossMark]

How about we meet in the Ukraine? Then i could kill 2 birds with 1 stone :har:

[Herr-Berbunch]

How about we meet in the Ukraine? Then i could kill 2 birds with 1 stone :har:


Surely you don't want to kill her just yet? :hmmm:

And am I the only one that sings Fall River - to the tune of Moon River? :hmm2:

[nikimcbee]

Surely you don't want to kill her just yet? :hmmm:

And am I the only one that sings Fall River - to the tune of Moon River? :hmm2:

yes.:O:



Chicago has the U-505 (but that's it:down:) and USS Cobia ~2 hrs to the north in Manitowoc.
http://www.wisconsinmaritime.org/the-submarine-experience/uss-cobia/


San Fran has USS Pampanito, Jeremiah O'Brien, and San Fran Maritime museum. ...but it is Kali-fornia.:down::down::down: Hope you like pan-handlers.:down:

[nikimcbee]

We could reenact Fort Sumter. I know some reenactors that have working cannon. I know I wouldn't mind taking a few long range pot shots at a few members here.

Hey, I'm a gun captain.... me likes.

[Herr-Berbunch]

This thread is McBee's personal attempt to catch Jim up for post counts. :O:

[nikimcbee]

This thread is McBee's personal attempt to catch Jim up for post counts. :O:

Somebody has to close the "Buna-gap".

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[Betonov]

I'm all for the UK.

Been wanting to return to London since 2003 and it's in my financial range.
I'll just beg Jim or H-B to lend me their lawns for accommodations :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm all for the UK.

Been wanting to return to London since 2003 and it's in my financial range.
I'll just beg Jim or H-B to lend me their lawns for accommodations :D

Already offered. :woot:

[Betonov]

Already offered. :woot:

Thanks. :D

Well, you can all send me money and I'll build my cottage in the spring and we can have a subsim meet in the middle of nowhere :03:

[Mr Quatro]

If it was up to me, I'd look around for a cheap cruise or all inclusive resort. Last time I went to a forum meet, a few guys ended up puking all over the host's back yard.


Considering that if we don't go in the peak season, cruises are pretty reasonably priced. We can just meet up in texas or florida, hop on a cruise ship, and sail out to see for a week or so.

A cruise would be a good way to meet everyone with or without a wife or girlfriend, double occupancy is always in every price.

Food is included, entertainment, skeet shooting perhaps, single ladies perhaps, casino, sunsets, meeting rooms, picture taking, fellowship, sea stories ...

Same problems as a land locked meet, air fare, transportation, passports, visa's, but everyday cost would be reduced.

Houston is a long way, but they do have cruise ships that meet that pull into port there along with Corpus Christi and New Orleans. It doesn't have to be a whole week or even a cruise to anywhere special.

I think we should plan for a super subsim meet for the 20th anniversary coming up in three more years.

Super subsim meet in Hawaii would be my best choice with the USS Missouri and the Arizona memorial and at least one WWII submarine and many other Navy ships available for open house or even request a VIP tour of a nuclear submarine.

Yes, Hawaii would be great, but oh the planning and moans and groans and the financial problem of saving say $60.00 a month for the trip 39 months from now. A special bank account set-up with automatic deposit would be great for self discipline.

This year is a goner, next year plan a cruise and when is the 20th anniversary anyway 2017???

Neal said he already spends 2 hours a day mending subsim so it would make sense to elect someone that doesn't have enough funds to put it all together and get a free cruise or at least plane fare for the trip.

Someone like Sailor Steve hint hint :D

I like this new cruise ship from Star Pride, it's more yacht like, but only does the Mediterranean:http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruiselog/2013/05/21/windstar-star-pride-mediterranean-itineraries/2346453/



Passengers will explore the Black Sea, the Corinth Canal and other corners of the Mediterranean region on Windstar's newest ship, Star Pride.

The yacht-style cruise line has announced 2014 itineraries for the vessel, beginning next May.

The 212-passenger, 106-cabin ship is the first of three identical vessels acquired by the company. Each is 440 feet long, 63 feet wide and has six passenger decks.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Well, you can all send me money and I'll build my cottage in the spring and we can have a subsim meet in the middle of nowhere :03:

Haha, how about you buy a boat and we'll all just sail around Lake Bled for a week, stopping to sample the local hospitality of an evening. :hmmm:

[Betonov]

Haha, how about you buy a boat and we'll all just sail around Lake Bled for a week, stopping to sample the local hospitality of an evening. :hmmm:

Of all the lovely and beautiful sites in Slovenia and Croatian coast you had to mention that shanty town surounding a cesspool :nope:

[Jimbuna]

This thread is McBee's personal attempt to catch Jim up for post counts. :O:

Looks like multiple merges are going to be commonplace :)

[Jimbuna]

I'm all for the UK.

Been wanting to return to London since 2003 and it's in my financial range.
I'll just beg Jim or H-B to lend me their lawns for accommodations :D

Why, are you a goat? :)

[nikimcbee]

Why, are you a goat? :)

:har::har::har:

Betonov...he's on the grass.:o

[Betonov]

I'm not a goat. I don't even smoke grass anymore, let alone eat it :O:

[Aktungbby]

If I might recommend Napa CA along the greasy green banks of the Napa river where the finishing shots of Apocalypse Now were done; with tours to the regarded San Francisco Maritime Museum: Baleo class sub; only one of two operational Liberty ships (A Sacramento river cruise is possible aboard her) the Balclutha clipper ship, aircraft-carrier Hornet, and the former Presidential yacht now operational on the Bay ETC. Throw in a Hornblower Dinnerboat cruise on the Bay and all the wine tasting (residents and their GUESTS are free-custom breweries for Jimbuna) with a tour of Mare Island Sub facilities on the Napa river at Vallejo and the Subsim theme is upheld. Plan it during fleet week or a Tall Ships week and joy is complete. The jetcat ferry from Vallejo to Fishermans Wharf and the Baleo/ Liberty exhibit is also a first-rate demo of marine twin hull harmonic convergence! And it will save Steelhead airfare to Australia. Unfortunately the battleship Iowa was towed to its new location from the ghost fleet on the Sacramento River and is no longer in the Bay area. I will shortly be refreshing my nav skills piloting my neighbor's 25' daysailor from the Alameda estuary to the Benicia Yacht harbor and its new home berth, a northward sojourn, against a prevailing westerly breeze, of 10 hours; I am assured the stays, halyards and the Nissan engine are restored to condition able...if I don't post again, someone drop a wreath off the Hornblower-iron men and fiberglass hulls-Gadzooks!:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Sailor Steve]

This has come up before, and most of the time it goes nowhere, for the simple reason that everybody thinks it's a great idea, but nobody wants to actually be the one to do the work. All it takes is for one person to act like they really want to see it through and it can be made to happen. Unless that happens, it's all just talk.

[nikimcbee]

This has come up before, and most of the time it goes nowhere, for the simple reason that everybody thinks it's a great idea, but nobody wants to actually be the one to do the work. All it takes is for one person to act like they really want to see it through and it can be made to happen. Unless that happens, it's all just talk.

This is true and I'll add, it gets planned, then 75% of the people don't show up.:dead:

[Mr Quatro]

This is true and I'll add, it gets planned, then 75% of the people don't show up.:dead:

That's why you set up a special bank account that lets you automatically deposit say $50 to $60 a month out of your bank account to a vacation meet fund set up say through a Houston bank.

Only serious members need to reply by putting their money where the subsim account is at.

A subsim thread could be closed for posting unless you have 10% already deposited showing your sincerity. The other wantabe members at a subsim meet can still read the post, but only members already committed can beat the drums and look forward to the meet.

In other words put your money where your keyboard is :woot:

[BossMark]

London must be due a turn surely :hmm2:
Cockney land gets my vote too :yep:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Ideally we'd have simultaneous Subsim meets, East Coast USA, West Coast USA, London UK, Sydney Australia, anywhere else?

[Jimbuna]

The biggest obstacle is the organisational element (many of us are busy in RL) and the fact that you usually get a healthy number of 'yes I'll go' which ultimately dwindles down to less than half for one reason/excuse or another.

Personally speaking I've only been to the one in Houston, organised by Neal in 2008 and that was really something else, meeting Neal, Steve, Jason, Chad, Dan, three Grey Wolves (plus one wife) and too many more to mention.

The one in Denmark was one that clashed with my 25th wedding anniversary so no feeble excuse there.

A SS Meet is something I would recommend everyone should attend because it is a unique opportunity to meet people in person but that might also be a reason for some people not attending....certainly their loss, not mine.

This is true and I'll add, it gets planned, then 75% of the people don't show up.:dead:

I was being kind in approximating just under half.

That's why you set up a special bank account that lets you automatically deposit say $50 to $60 a month out of your bank account to a vacation meet fund set up say through a Houston bank.

Only serious members need to reply by putting their money where the subsim account is at.

A subsim thread could be closed for posting unless you have 10% already deposited showing your sincerity. The other wantabe members at a subsim meet can still read the post, but only members already committed can beat the drums and look forward to the meet.

In other words put your money where your keyboard is :woot:

Some of us already did....in 2008 I crossed the Atlantic and Tarjak the Pacific to meet up with Neal, The Grey Wolves and community friends.

[Sailor Steve]

Ideally we'd have simultaneous Subsim meets, East Coast USA, West Coast USA, London UK, Sydney Australia, anywhere else?
So I get to meet McBee again, August gets to meet Soopaman, you get to meet Jim again and Tarjak gets to meet Cybermat.

Sounds real exciting. Any idea where Neal fits in?

[BossMark]

^^
And as a real bonus you could get to meet STEED and me :haha:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Sounds real exciting. Any idea where Neal fits in?

Yeah, he can pay for it all. :D

I'm sure if we can get a few smaller meets organised then it'll whet the appetites for a bigger one. It's much cheaper for people to dip their toes in the same or nearby country than fly halfway round the world so it's more likely to happen and more likely to attract more people. Or not.

Edit : just for the record I'd like to meet McBee twice, I don't know what you have against the chap. :O:

[Jimbuna]

So I get to meet McBee again, August gets to meet Soopaman, you get to meet Jim again and Tarjak gets to meet Cybermat.

Sounds real exciting. Any idea where Neal fits in?

He'll be with TarJak, you and I at Faslane.

[nikimcbee]

^^
And as a real bonus you could get to meet STEED and me :haha:

I think you're the same person. Anywhoo, everybody knows that I'm Steed.:Kaleun_Goofy:

[Sailor Steve]

Edit : just for the record I'd like to meet McBee twice, I don't know what you have against the chap. :O:
I have nothing against him except for his cold nose. I've already met him three times and I'd love to make it four. That said, I'd hardly call that a "Subsim meet". For me it's about meeting the people I want to know, not just the ones I can. With enough warning I'd save my beans and come to London, or Sydney. But someone would have to organize it first.

[nikimcbee]

Yeah, he can pay for it all. :D

I second the motion.

[mapuc]

Here are an idea I have had since my first meeting in Holland 2005.

Each year we get together in some semi-meetings in USA and Europe and maybe a third meeting somewhere else in the world

Every second year we have a BIG meeting shifting between USA and Europe. Those years we have this big meeting there isn't any semi-meetings.

Example

year 2014:
Semi-meeting in Europe(London perhaps)
Semi-meeting in USA(don't know where
(after we can change photos and info here on Subsim)

Year 2015 Big meeting in USA

A.s.o

Markus

[nikimcbee]

I have nothing against him except for his cold nose. I've already met him three times and I'd love to make it four. That said, I'd hardly call that a "Subsim meet". For me it's about meeting the people I want to know, not just the ones I can. With enough warning I'd save my beans and come to London, or Sydney. But someone would have to organize it first.

$5 says we'll be talking Civil War within 5 minutes of the start of the conversation.:haha:

Yeah, I gotta meet Herr Berr and I owe August a bottle of Crown Royal.

[nikimcbee]

You know, let's make it a surprise subsim meet and just show up at Neal's house.:hmmm:

Kinda like that scene from the Hobbit.

[Aktungbby]

ON our rented Harley's!

[Armistead]

I know this has been mooted before but London, or thereabouts would be great, there are some proper history musea - not just the last couple of hundred years. :O: And Pompey/Gosport is just a couple of hours drive away with HMS Victory, Mary Rose, HMS Warrior, the 112 year old sub Holland 1, the midget sub X24, and HMS Alliance. With Duxford and Hendon for the aviation crowd. Maybe stretch the legs to Liverpool to see the desecrated U-534. . .

London, you know how long it would take me to row across the Atlantic? Course if you or Jim are paying, different story. I'll even bring some free posters to hand out.

[Betonov]

year 2014:
Semi-meeting in Europe(London perhaps)
Semi-meeting in USA(don't know where
(after we can change photos and info here on Subsim)

Year 2015 Big meeting in USA


Love the idea. I believe I could save the money for a 2015 USA trip

[mapuc]

London, you know how long it would take me to row across the Atlantic? Course if you or Jim are paying, different story. I'll even bring some free posters to hand out.

Here's your Rowboat the oars you have to get yourself

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff440/mapuc/free_2986241.jpg

So start paddling my friend or you going to miss the meeting next year :haha:

Markus

[mapuc]

Love the idea. I believe I could save the money for a 2015 USA trip

And of course a big meeting in Europe 2017 a.s.o

Markus

[Platapus]

More power to you guys. :salute:

For me, there are some here that I would rather keep at keyboard distance. :yep:

At least online, you can ignore them, but in person you have to pretend to be pleased to meet them.

But for the members who are into that sort of stuff, I say gopher it!

Make it so!

Meet in the middle, Omaha Nebraska. and tour the USS Hazard (WWII Minesweeper) and the USS Marlin (Training Sub). There is also the SAC Air museum on Offutt AFB, which is a pretty good sized air museum.

Hotels are cheap there too.

[Sailor Steve]

ON our rented Harley's!
On our rented Harley's what? :O:

[Madox58]

Some of us already did....in 2008 I crossed the Atlantic and Tarjak the Pacific to meet up with Neal, The Grey Wolves and community friends.

The plan went like clock work. For awhile.
Nancy and I drove from Ohio to Texas to meet Jim and Grant in a well planned, 1st gathering of The Grey Wolves at a SubSim meet.

It went as planned up until everyone got to the Airport.
:nope:

It got down right hilarious from there!
:har:

[Onkel Neal]

It would be nice to have another international meet, but we would have to plan it out a year in advance, and set up some kind of system where people will pledge to come. The last meet, even I didn't show up :( (new job, couldn't get out of work).

Once every 4 years is probably reasonable.

[Sailor Steve]

Reasonable? REASONABLE? I might not live that long! A lot can happen in four years!

What am I saying? I didn't make the last two.

I'll go take my meds now. :oops:

[fireftr18]

Ideally we'd have simultaneous Subsim meets, East Coast USA, West Coast USA, London UK, Sydney Australia, anywhere else?
In that case us Ubirats can actually meet each other. :Kaleun_Goofy:

[Armistead]

In that case us Ubirats can actually meet each other. :Kaleun_Goofy:
Come visit, I've got a lot of dirt that needs moving. Get time, we'll do some redneck rapid riding down the river, it's better than the "open bucket" ride at the park..

[Gargamel]

Why not a series of synchronized mini meets?

[desertstriker]

I would be in :yep: heck it seems long over due considering the last one was 5 years ago

[Jimbuna]

The plan went like clock work. For awhile.
Nancy and I drove from Ohio to Texas to meet Jim and Grant in a well planned, 1st gathering of The Grey Wolves at a SubSim meet.

It went as planned up until everyone got to the Airport.
:nope:

It got down right hilarious from there!
:har:

Thank you....Mr Wolfrang :)

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[McBeck]

London!

[Sailor Steve]

In that case us Ubirats can actually meet each other. :Kaleun_Goofy:
I'll just have my own private meeting here where I live.

Maybe I'll meet myself. That could be interesting. :D

[Jimbuna]

I'll just have my own private meeting here where I live.

Maybe I'll meet myself. That could be interesting. :D

I thought you said you were interested in meeting the Ubirats :hmmm: