Washington Times:The Civil War of 2016

[Bubblehead1980]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/7/the-civil-war-of-2016/

[desertstriker]

lookout anti President Obama rant comming

[Dread Knot]

I think I've seen this re-run before.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/cytherians/StarTrek/TOS/humor/ST-Lincoln-Obama.jpg

[desertstriker]

I think I've seen this re-run before.

http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/cytherians/StarTrek/TOS/humor/ST-Lincoln-Obama.jpg
now that made me laugh:har:

[Ducimus]

I'm thinking the article is intended to
a.) Make the tea party look bad.
b.) Further stoke the fires of polarization for ratings.

As for any civil war, I think the conditions are ripe enough to make it plausible, but at the same time highly unlikely because:

a.) Presidential term limits. Most rational people would wait and see.

b.) The government won't allow it. It will do whatever it takes to maintain status quo. Any person, or groups of persons, considered "rabble rousers" will encounter some very effective "tools" in discrediting and quieting them before they can do anything meaningful or effective.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think the country is getting more divided. Civil war? Highly unlikely.

[desertstriker]

As for any civil war, I think the conditions are ripe enough to make it plausible, but at the same time highly unlikely because:

a.) Presidential term limits. Most rational people would wait and see.

b.) The government won't allow it. It will do whatever it takes to maintain status quo. Any person, or groups of persons, considered "rabble rousers" will encounter some very effective "tools" in discrediting and quieting them before they can do anything meaningful or effective.
Unfortunatly you are correct tensions in the USA are higher than they where at the time of the start of the civil war. Though I do know that the military has been running exorcizes in cities and towns including low flying.

As to how the country will be divided thats up in the air it might be country(politicians) vs people (more of a revolution though), rich vs poor, or party vs party. I have spent a long thinking about this but IMHO is going to be inevitable as there are so many parallels between pre civil war and now.

[Oberon]

https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/m/image/1313/12/1313124521840.jpg

[Armistead]

I read two paragraphs, stupid. This country isn't close to a CW and certainly no group could take or hold a city.

Sure, we'll probably see chaos down the road if the economy goes under in a big way, but no CW.

[Ducimus]

I think the country is getting more divided. Civil war? Highly unlikely.

I think the country is definately becoming more divided, or polarized. I know I have become polarized lately. I used to not care and was indifferent, now I find i harbor a seething hatred for the left. Though I am unsure if it is the extreme left that is the object of my ire, or just the left in general. Haven't figured that out yet. I do know that I see the liberal progressive movement as a dangerous ideology that will erode our liberties in preference for a larger, more reaching government until any 1984 metaphor's are an undeniable cold hard reality.

[Bubblehead1980]

I think the country is definately becoming more divided, or polarized. I know I have become polarized lately. I used to not care and was indifferent, now I find i harbor a seething hatred for the left. Though I am unsure if it is the extreme left that is the object of my ire, or just the left in general. Haven't figured that out yet. I do know that I see the liberal progressive movement as a dangerous ideology that will erode our liberties in preference for a larger, more reaching government until any 1984 metaphor's are an undeniable cold hard reality.


Exactly."Progressivism" , which is rooted in marxism to be honest, is the most dangerous ideological force around today.

[TarJak]

Exactly."Progressivism" , which is rooted in marxism to be honest, is the most dangerous ideological force around today.

I'd say stupidity is a far greater danger.

[Platapus]

I'd say stupidity is a far greater danger.

It is at least more widely spread :yep:

[Betonov]

It's divided among smaller groups, not entire states. I know, same cow pile division here in the old country.

The way I see it, if a CW will erupt in the US, the first 2 floors of an apartment complex will raise the confederate flag, while 3, 4, 6 and 8 floors will remain in the Union and 5 and 7th floors will want to join Canada. The penthouse will be invaded by Russia.

[AVGWarhawk]

I think the country is definately becoming more divided, or polarized. I know I have become polarized lately. I used to not care and was indifferent, now I find i harbor a seething hatred for the left. Though I am unsure if it is the extreme left that is the object of my ire, or just the left in general. Haven't figured that out yet. I do know that I see the liberal progressive movement as a dangerous ideology that will erode our liberties in preference for a larger, more reaching government until any 1984 metaphor's are an undeniable cold hard reality.

I see a trend that will not stop in the near future. The trend of the dependent on the government. With each new bill comes a new entitlement. With each new bill comes more votes for the same group creating and passing these bills without a care for anything other than pandering for votes in the next election. It is not about for the good of the people anymore. It is for the good of careers of those signing bills that they have yet to read. IMO, DC is wildly out of control and ignoring any of the parchment of rules and regulations drafted over 100 years ago. Because, well, they know better.

[Jimbuna]

I'm beginning to see a different type of trend.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm beginning to see a different type of trend.

That comes with age, Jim. Usually Gas-x and a bland diet helps. :up:

[Jimbuna]

That comes with age, Jim. Usually Gas-x and a bland diet helps. :up:

Eye bleach is much more effective I reckon.

[Sailor Steve]

It looks to me like this is getting close to the "Topic Spamming" threshold.

[desertstriker]

Uhhh-OOOOOHHHHHHH

[Ducimus]

I see a trend that will not stop in the near future. The trend of the dependent on the government. With each new bill comes a new entitlement.

While I can't come up with specific examples off the top of my head, I do agree with you. It's been my general impression that there's a lot of folks out there that have some odd sense of entitlement, and, seem unwilling, or unable to take personal responsibility. It's always someone else's fault, or someone else's job.


With each new bill comes more votes for the same group creating and passing these bills without a care for anything other than pandering for votes in the next election. It is not about for the good of the people anymore. It is for the good of careers of those signing bills that they have yet to read.

I really think we need congressional term limits. There should be no such thing as a professional politician. Senators like Fienstien and McCain, should not exist.


IMO, DC is wildly out of control and ignoring any of the parchment of rules and regulations drafted over 100 years ago. Because, well, they know better.

Here's a thought. These people, these professional politicians, these people who are supposed to be our representatives but really aren't, have made it their lifetime career choice to know how to tap dance around the laws of the land. They know all the loop holes and how to skirt around the law when they decide it's inconvenient to whatever agenda they are pursing.

[Bubblehead1980]

It looks to me like this is getting close to the "Topic Spamming" threshold.

No, this is unrelated, if the discussion happens to evolve and have similarities to other topics, that is the nature of debate.

[Armistead]

I think the country is definately becoming more divided, or polarized. I know I have become polarized lately. I used to not care and was indifferent, now I find i harbor a seething hatred for the left. Though I am unsure if it is the extreme left that is the object of my ire, or just the left in general. Haven't figured that out yet. I do know that I see the liberal progressive movement as a dangerous ideology that will erode our liberties in preference for a larger, more reaching government until any 1984 metaphor's are an undeniable cold hard reality.



Govt will never do the right thing, if they did, they would lose elections.

I had the Dems, but the GOP is no better.

[Ducimus]

Govt will never do the right thing, if they did, they would lose elections.

I had the Dems, but the GOP is no better.

Yeah I agree, neither party is really a winner. You know, i used to trust the government implicitly. I couldn't conceive of it ever doing wrong to the American people. Now i find myself questioning everything it does. I also find myself siding with the republican's right now mainly because of the old "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing. On that note, I really wish the GOP would get it's crap together because it's the only counter to the Democrats, who are running amok, to put it plainly.

I think the GOP is on a downward spiral, and while I am no big fan, I don't want that. Kind of fumy really, at one point i was OK with just one party being in charge of most of the government because then at least things would get done. No more gridlock. What has gone on in the last year or three has shown me the just how naive that way thinking is. Now, i shudder at the thought of a government dominated by the Democrats with no other alternative. If the GOP keeps their downward spiral and becomes all but ineffective, and nothing comes up to fill that power vacuum, a dictatorial system is exactly what we're gonna have, and the resulting government will be disturbing to put it politely.

[soopaman2]

Govt will never do the right thing, if they did, they would lose elections.

I had the Dems, but the GOP is no better.


You are screwed no matter which "team" you choose.

They serve the same masters, the moneyed.

Our politicians will never risk anything to lose their jobs, they will never take a controversial view, they will never defend the little man vs the big banks/donors.


We are rubes, and they are they carnys...

America is bought and paid for, which is why there is so much ire towards our guns, corporations want to finish us off so we become full corporate controlled fascist.



My proof, steal 1000$ = go to prison 5 plus years.

Steal a billion $= Get interest free loans from the Federal Reserve. (and further allow them the powers of economical destruction, that got us here)

[vienna]

Washington Times? Isn't that the newspaper founded by Dr. Sun Myun Moon, head of the Unification Church, whose followers are known better as "Moonies"?...


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[soopaman2]

I just want to know what camp the liberals should report to once Bubbles gets his way.


Oh same camp he will be at, send me a letter pal!:woot:

I'll be in the woods, with my guns, alot of guns, more guns than any lib should own!

[AVGWarhawk]

I just want to know what camp the liberals should report to once Bubbles gets his way.


Oh same camp he will be at, send me a letter pal!:woot:

I'll be in the woods, with my guns, alot of guns, more guns than any lib should own!

Resistance is futile.

http://allthingsd.com/files/2013/08/ResistanceIsFutile.gif

[soopaman2]

Resistance is futile.

http://allthingsd.com/files/2013/08/ResistanceIsFutile.gif


Ya think so? the god of Rat-a-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat, says differently..From my long rigid, turgid, rifle. Killing paper, one round at a time. Ask Piers Morgan how dangerous people like me are.

Unless they do something silly, like ban firearms from legal owners....I am sure that will keep them out of the hands of criminals.


Not like the thugs do not have any, of course they don't. Law abiders...all of them!

[u crank]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/7/the-civil-war-of-2016/

From the article...

It’s a cartoonish and needlessly provocative scenario.

The article is a choppy patchwork of doctrinal jargon and liberal nightmare.

The vision is hard to take seriously

This is a dark, pessimistic and wrongheaded view of what military leaders should spend their time studying.


So Bubblehead1980, what was your point?

[soopaman2]

LOL ucrank, you actually debated Bubbles?!:O:

Kinda funner to bat him around a bit like a cat toy, than waste any real debate on it...Just saying.

I go for lols or shock value when I see a bubs thread.


Just have to watch out, every once in a blue moon he makes a great point, and it gets buried in his reputation as a firebrand or agitator.
"Gotta luv the bub":up:

I for one am a big fan, though he is silly at times , IMHO.

[vienna]

To me, Bubbles is kind of like the teacher (or any other adult) in a "Peanuts" cartoon or the guy talking to his dog in the "Far Side" comic: it's either a wah-wah of bad conservative hyperbole or all you realy hear is "Blah, blah, blah, OBAMA!, Blah, blah, blah, LIBERALS!, Blah, blah, blah, I'M RIGHT!, Blah, blah, blah, YOU'RE WRONG!< blah blah, blah..."...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04




http://wagwagwag.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ginger1.jpg



There is hope one day he'll be able to sift out the gist from the gibberish he embraces...


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[soopaman2]

I got faith in Bubbles, Vienna.

He means no harm, and is not a terrible person, a great start.

While kinda ultraconservative, he is one of us.

You have to kinda admit, you love to debate him, even crack jokes on him, he takes both really well.

Agree or disagree, gotta "luv the Bub"

(if that becomes a catchphrase, I want royalties..:D)

[TarJak]

I got faith in Bubbles, Vienna.

He means no harm, and is not a terrible person, a great start.

While kinda ultraconservative, he is one of us.

You have to kinda admit, you love to debate him, even crack jokes on him, he takes both really well.

Agree or disagree, gotta "luv the Bub"

(if that becomes a catchphrase, I want royalties..:D)
I disagree that he means no harm. He is clearly out to obfuscate the fact that UN sponsored FEMA death camps staffed by Nazi dentists are being established across the USA by pointing out that is what is happening. He's a key part of the disinformation campaign to keep the populace under the control of EBO.

[vienna]

Go, TarJak, go!...


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[mookiemookie]

"Civil War? I can't go to any Civil War tonight. There's a new episode of The Voice on."

http://i.imgur.com/VKsHA3X.jpg

[Platapus]

What happens if we have an uncivil war? Will people start talking mean to one another. Crikey! We have that right now!

So the good news is that as long as everyone continues to be uncivil, we can't have a civil war. :up:

That was easy. :know:

[Ducimus]

"Civil War? I can't go to any Civil War tonight. There's a new episode of The Voice on."

http://i.imgur.com/VKsHA3X.jpg

Yeah I agree. I think that for most American's, so long as they have their Iphone/iPads, reality TV shows, and their internets, they'll stay pacified, and soundly asleep. If anything real or substantial were to happen that involved doing something, the only thing I think one should reasonably expect from most is....nothing. Nothing at all. To be truthful, 10 to 11 months ago, this picture may as well have been me as well.