When did music videos get so hilarious?

[Onkel Neal]

So, yeah, I'm old and I don't get new music. I'll proudly don the mantle of "new music is crap", just like the generations before me (but seriously, could it be true this time?).

We've all heard about the Hannah Montanah kid going stripper-bonkers at the VMAs (Disney stars turning wacko, they must have a management plan or something), old news, and not really that shocking.

But then comes a video, this chick is licking a sledgehammer (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/miley-cyrus-gets-naked-for-wrecking-ball-ride/?hpt=hp_c3), swinging nekkid on a wrecking ball. Haw haw! Was it supposed to be this funny? Or do they really think there's even a glimmer of sex appeal in this LMAO video?

Seriously, is there anyone here who can explain this to me? :doh:

Yeah, that link above mentions the Sinead O'Connor video, that was a pretty solid song and performance. But Miley Cyrus? So funny!:har:

[Admiral Halsey]

Somewhere Billy Ray Cyrus is crying his Achy Breaky Heart out.

[Red October1984]

New music is crap*

That's all there is to it. :D

*Exceptions exist :)

[Sailor Steve]

Seriously, is there anyone here who can explain this to me? :doh:
The explanation is that there are so many videos and so many average singers out there that the one who wins is the one who is the most outrageoud.

that was a pretty solid song and performance.
Seriously? Average song at best, electronic drum machine, synthesized everything, including running her voice through some kind of processor. Test of time, brother, test of time. Is anyone going to remember this thirty years from now, let alone look back and say "Now that was great music!"?

[Armistead]

All part of a grander marketing plan that started at the awards show. It goes back to "as long as people are talking".

Yep, it scares me that most the music I like is considered classic, but with music I prefer vocal talent, not t&a...

Two years ago I took my son and school friends to a Swift concert, I swear she sounded lie a dying dog, but the kids loved her.

As I've said, great music went out with big hair.

[the_tyrant]

The explanation is that there are so many videos and so many average singers out there that the one who wins is the one who is the most outrageoud.


Seriously? Average song at best, electronic drum machine, synthesized everything, including running her voice through some kind of processor. Test of time, brother, test of time. Is anyone going to remember this thirty years from now, let alone look back and say "Now that was great music!"?

Don't you pull your "wise old man" gig on me:O:

I mean, back in your day, The Archies were topping the charts!

At least Miley Cyrus exists!

[Takeda Shingen]

Funny thing about all this; my argument would be that the popular music barometer has read -10 since the first troubadour squawked out the first drinking tune in the tavern. It is all a relative thing. I could easily launch into scathing diatribes about Bruce Springsteen, The Beatles, Chubby Checker, Bill Hailey and the Comets, Muddy Waters or whatever your vernacular performer(s) of choice are. Would it lessen your love of them? Probably not. Would it frustrate me to no end that the people I am lecturing will not appreciate art as I see fit? Absolutely. And so I have found it best for everybody, including myself, if I just let people like what they want to like and I save my diatribe for the lecture hall.

[Jimbuna]

Don't you pull your "wise old man" gig on me:O:

I mean, back in your day, The Archies were topping the charts!

At least Miley Cyrus exists!

^ :har:

If the younger generation are buying it then the management plan is working....but yes I agree, it looks and sounds crap, at best.

[Tchocky]

Well there's a barrel load of selective recognition going on here.

After all, we forget about all the awful music from years ago.

[HunterICX]

Thanks..now my ears bleed and my eyes puke :dead:

HunterICX

[Red October1984]

Thanks..now my ears bleed and my eyes puke :dead:

Ask Jimbuna for some of that eye bleach he has sitting around. :hmmm:

[joea]

New music is crap*

That's all there is to it. :D

*Exceptions exist :)

Well there's a barrel load of selective recognition going on here.

After all, we forget about all the awful music from years ago.
Yup, this new music is crap is nonsense. The most popular stuff - a good chunk of it at least - is crap but there are loads of good bands and musicians too. Plus as the cliché goes, "one man's trash is another man's treasure".

This trope is tiresome. :zzz:

[AVGWarhawk]

Somewhere Billy Ray Cyrus is crying his Achy Breaky Heart out.


Billy is crying all the way to the bank!

[Sailor Steve]

Don't you pull your "wise old man" gig on me:O:

I mean, back in your day, The Archies were topping the charts!
And I hated them too.

At least Miley Cyrus exists!
Are you sure?

[AVGWarhawk]

So, yeah, I'm old and I don't get new music. I'll proudly don the mantle of "new music is crap", just like the generations before me (but seriously, could it be true this time?).

We've all heard about the Hannah Montanah kid going stripper-bonkers at the VMAs (Disney stars turning wacko, they must have a management plan or something), old news, and not really that shocking.

But then comes a video, this chick is licking a sledgehammer (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/miley-cyrus-gets-naked-for-wrecking-ball-ride/?hpt=hp_c3), swinging nekkid on a wrecking ball. Haw haw! Was it supposed to be this funny? Or do they really think there's even a glimmer of sex appeal in this LMAO video?

Seriously, is there anyone here who can explain this to me? :doh:

Yeah, that link above mentions the Sinead O'Connor video, that was a pretty solid song and performance. But Miley Cyrus? So funny!:har:

If Miley continues on this path she will never be taken seriously. If you have no real talent use the shock factor. Won't be long before there is a full spread in Playboy.

[Tchocky]

She's not exactly in control though. Perhaps this is in reaction to being managed, styled and controlled to within an inch of her life for decades.

It's the same story of child stardom. Sad and repetitive.

[AVGWarhawk]

She's not exactly in control though. Perhaps this is in reaction to being managed, styled and controlled to within an inch of her life for decades.

It's the same story of child stardom. Sad and repetitive.

What is repetitive is the child stars are often faced with a failing career. Since her Hannah Montana roll Miley has not amounted to much. These child starts rarely go much farther then their rolls when children. The only thing in their bag of tricks is doing outrageous things whenever possible. Take a look at Amanda Bynes. The list goes on.

[the_tyrant]

And I hated them too.


Are you sure?


I'm pretty sure in a few years, there will be so many implants in her, she would have to be legally classified as a cyborg. :haha:

[Wolferz]

Miley is only following in the footsteps of other female recording artists who found their careers waning and pulled out the shock and awe campaigns. Madonna, Cher, etc, etc. Disney made enough off of Miley to buy the Star Wars franchise so it's only natural that her current management will do anything to keep the cash cow milk flowing. She's going along with it. What's that say about her? Mediocrity bound I'd say. If she shows up in a centerfold for Playboy, I might buy a copy just to burn the glossy off a horse toothed brat.

I can honestly say that the only music I ever listened to that made my ears bleed was from Mrs John Lennon. Oh well, at least Paul was smart enough to give Linda a dead microphone to screech into and Yoko' demonic overtures never made it onto the airwaves.:up:

Put on your Mickey Mouse ears boys and girls so you can receive the signal.:rock:

[Sailor Steve]

@ Woferz: I think you're trying too hard to be subtle. Tell us what you really think. :O:

[Buddahaid]

I find that today's music is 90% showmanship and 10% musicianship. The songs can still have great hooks and be memorable, but one no longer needs to be a talented musician to give a creditable performance. Can't sing on key? No problem we have pitch correction on the fly for that now. Can't play any instrument but have some good ideas? No problem as the tools are out there to fix that. It's really the opposite of the highly trained musician that can't perform to save their life.

[Spoon 11th]

Related video. Must see.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d61_1378957833

[Spiced_Rum]

The song is bland, so needs the video to spice it up. I find her hair cut the worse part, give me the old Hannah Montana look with longer more feminine hair any day. And her tramp stamps look awful as well.

Now the Robert Palmer video for 'Addicted to Love' was a classic. :up:

[Wolferz]

@ Woferz: I think you're trying too hard to be subtle. Tell us what you really think. :O:

Give away my secrets? No way!:haha:

[Penguin]

Somewhere Billy Ray Cyrus is crying his Achy Breaky Heart out.

Or he blames everything on David Lynch and the devil: http://www.avclub.com/articles/billy-ray-cyrus-says-the-devil-and-david-lynch-des,51867/ :D



Seriously? Average song at best, electronic drum machine, synthesized everything, including running her voice through some kind of processor. Test of time, brother, test of time. Is anyone going to remember this thirty years from now, let alone look back and say "Now that was great music!"?

I think Neal talked about the Sinhead O'Connor song :03: - which we do still remember after 2 decades.
I didn't click on the Cyrus vid, but processed voice and drum machine sounds more characteristic of a modern teeny-bopper's performance than of "Nothing Compares To You".

[Dowly]

How to twerk like Miley Cyrus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYcg1ot1iWs

(complaints of lost braincells are to be forwarded to HunterICX)


:salute:

[Wolferz]

The cloud does have a silver lining.
Remember when MTV was music videos 24/7/365?

Today they don't run any music. Just trash reality shows. If they still showed music videos, then Muley would be twerking her wrecking ball all day every day. Heeeee Haww!:dead:
I would have to delete the channel out of my cable boxes for sure.

[Platapus]

I find that today's music is 90% showmanship and 10% musicianship.

I think you are being generous. With autotune (and the other like software) actual musical ability ranks pretty low on the qualification list for a "pop star".

Appearance, an ability to move (some might call it dance), and acting ability (not the theatrical kind, but the showmanship kind) and you are done. Software can manage the rest.

Let's see these "pop stars" sing standing still, live, with no mixing. Then we can see who is or is not a singing sensation.

I have to admit some confusion on how much attention the Milely Cyrus video has garnered. To me this falls squarely in the category of "small stuff" that is simply not all that important.

You don't think that her publicity agency is behind this... do you?

[Platapus]

The cloud does have a silver lining.
Remember when MTV was music videos 24/7/365?


Is this the new curmudgeon mantra? "why I remember when MTV had music"

"No way gramps, you are pulling our legs."


Of course, I am so old, I remember when indigo was a color. :D

[soopaman2]

Man you missed hair metal videos during the 80s.

Whitesnake made some stinkers, KISS always sucked, and still does.

Geez watch mid to late 80s MTV for stinkers.

Miley and her chicken butt got nothing on the 80s. Yes a chicken butt.

Don't know this person, but simply the first place I found it online.


Prepare yerselves...

https://twitter.com/xAmbzz/status/371979998078722048/photo/1

Bad haircut and a horrific backside, Stick that tongue out again, gonna need it.

EDIT: Steve, sidenote, that voice processor is called autotune, great if you are tone deaf, or cannot hold a note. it has made any modern star, from Britney, to miley.

Ronny James Dio is rolling over in his grave.

[Sailor Steve]

The first time I ever watched an MTV video I said "Okay. That's stealing years off of everybody's lives. What's the point?"

In thirty years of them, I think I may have seen a dozen that actually tickled me.

[Wolferz]

Primus makes some eccentric videos. Usually very entertaining.
All Muley has is her chicken butt and that snake tongue, which is only good for making lesbians swoon.:woot::haha:

[STEED]

There have been complaints about music videos being too raunchy and sexed up.

I hate modern pop music its rubbish so there. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Pop music back in "our day" was rubbish as well. Good musicians playing their own music sometimes started in the pop genre, but eventually grew out of it and became truly memorable. There is a lot of that today, but nobody in the MTV crowd wants to see it.