food for thought (I need to vent) [Archive]

kranz

08-27-13, 06:08 AM

there are different types of jobs.

plumbers
drivers
soldiers
accountants
teachers
etc.

THEY ALL DESERVE RESPECT!!!

hell, even:

hangmen
prosecutors
judges

DESERVE RESPECT

even hookers and 'rats' DESERVE RESPECT

BUT THERE IS ONE FREAKING JOB WHICH DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE SPAT ON:

COPPERS
(I know that we have/used to have a few cops here - nothing personal...)

coppers are the biggest filth and scum on this freaking planet.

(No, I didn't get a ticket but I guess it was pretty close - got warned on time).
A straight road, no pedestrians, medium traffic, no accidents at all.
Yet, a 50 km/h speed limit.

Two retards sitting in their retarded car and waiting for an easy prey.
http://i42.tinypic.com/5b6vli.jpg
I slowed down to 50, he aimed, must have seen 50.
So I turned my head with a "b1tch please" expression on my face so he aimed once again at the back of my car (nothing was coming from the opposite direction so he was once again trying to catch me thinking I'm gonna speed up...what a tard...)

Seriously, just have a look at the picture (taken after I came back home - 10 minutes later)
What's the IQ of that guy? Like 20-30?
Did he get at least 5 classes of a primary school? I doubt.
Does he even realize he looks like a cripple?

The police is a perfect place if you are a loser who cannot find anything better.
It's an ideal place if you want to boost your tiny ego - They gave me a gun and handcuffs - I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD.
No, you ARE NOT, you scum.
You are maggots wearing fag uniforms and eating fag donuts in your fag cars which makes your fag bellies go even fatter.
I pray for times when our society takes axes, hatchets and saws and puts all these maggots six feet under.

I could never understand Americans who, with their ballz being squeezed in a vice, will tell you "The police is only doing their job, they are the good guys".
The good guys....:nope:

Betonov

08-27-13, 06:19 AM

I would be grumpy too if I had to wear that hat :D

Schroeder

08-27-13, 06:23 AM

Can't complain about the police over here, never had a bad experience with them.
Maybe some counties in Poland abuse them to generate income? If so then it's not the police's fault but that of the politicians who order them to do that stuff.:hmm2:
On the other hand the police force is probably several ten thousand people strong so it's very likely that you find some retards among them who take pleasure in boosting their ego.:shifty:

Feuer Frei!

08-27-13, 06:47 AM

So what's the 'food for thought'?

I don't get it.

That they are fags? Scum? Retards?

Or that you don't like cops?

Neither of the above are hitting my radar.

kranz

08-27-13, 06:56 AM

once a month a garage around my estate gets broken into.
I've never heard about police catching somebody involved.

So what's the 'food for thought'?

I don't get it.

Maybe some counties in Poland abuse them to generate income?
:up:

AVGWarhawk

08-27-13, 08:00 AM

Yep, everyone hates a cop until they need one. :doh:

Cybermat47

08-27-13, 08:39 AM

The police is a perfect place if you are a loser who cannot find anything better.
It's an ideal place if you want to boost your tiny ego - They gave me a gun and handcuffs - I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD.
No, you ARE NOT, you scum.
You are maggots wearing fag uniforms and eating fag donuts in your fag cars which makes your fag bellies go even fatter.
I pray for times when our society takes axes, hatchets and saws and puts all these maggots six feet under.

You make me sick. Those people's jobs are to PROTECT you, and this is how you repay them? Now you've made me even more determined to join the police just to annoy the crap out of people like you. Honestly, these two people are doing their job, so you decide to come crying to us? Spare us your pathetic rage against LAW enforcement. Yes, LAW. If it weren't for these people, the world would be a much harsher place.

Also, you do realise that Jimbuna, who developed GWX, used to be a cop?

Just think about that next time you play GWX.

Betonov

08-27-13, 08:57 AM

He's right you know.

An ex warshaw block country doesn't have the blue angels that serve and protect like the westerners.
Pre 90's police was a terror and control tool. Obidient psychopats were a prefered recruitment choice and any honesty and integrity was quickly isolated and eliminated (fired, not killed) from the workforce. A single cop had more power than the half of judiciary branch of a country and were an excellent way of settling personal grievences, since no one asked anything after a cop almost (or did) killed someone over a personal issue.

I don't know what happened in Slovenia where most of the cops went for that humble servant mentality, but eastern mentality still makes cops think they are above the law and are still a corrupt tool for the corrupt.

A response time for a cop there if you report and armed burglar in the house is half an hour and one minute if you piss on the mayors lawn.

So people like Kranz don't make me sick. Their police force makes me sick because until 10 years ago the same sickos we're upholding the law here. if you count looking after themselves upholding the law.
Most of our retards became local ticket officers afterwards.

soopaman2

08-27-13, 09:08 AM

The criticism came because you made a blanket statement, like they all were garbage.

I'd choose a society of laws over complete anarchy. Anarchy would force me to shoot people and not paper.

Cops protect you from people like me.:haha: :O:

Tribesman

08-27-13, 09:11 AM

If you slowed down to 50 after you spotted the cops then it is pretty safe to say they saw you breaking the speed limit and you were lucky to get away without a ticket for breaking the law.
So the police are not at fault, you were.

As for all the "fag" "cripple" and "retard" comments, it just makes you look very very silly:down:

kranz

08-27-13, 09:52 AM

Yep, everyone hates a cop until they need one. :doh:

the place where they

generate income

rather than increase road safety is about 200 meters from the garage area I talked about.
I've been living in this street for 25 years and I haven't seen a single copper patrolling the area affected by the garage break-ins.

Those people's jobs are to PROTECT you, and this is how you repay them?

they are repaid by taxes I pay.

Now you've made me even more determined to join the police just to annoy the crap out of people like you.

you see? You are actually proving my point. You are like that copper who failed to catch me with the first measurement and tried to measure my speed from the back.

Also, you do realise that Jimbuna, who developed GWX, used to be a cop?

Just think about that next time you play GWX.

(I know that we have/used to have a few cops here - nothing personal...)

dunno - you failed to see that or what?
My example is pretty specific - 2 idiots trying to make money and one of them being a scumbag (who fails hard).

Do yourself a favor and be a forum newfag somewhere else.

I'd choose a society of laws over complete anarchy. Anarchy would force me to shoot people and not paper.

Generating income for the city budget = no anarchy.
Right....

If you slowed down to 50 after you spotted the cops then it is pretty safe to say they saw you breaking the speed limit and you were lucky to get away without a ticket for breaking the law.

:har:
Might be.

So the police are not at fault, you were.

Yes.

As for all the "fag" "cripple" and "retard" comments, it just makes you look very very silly:down:
I'm silly, that is true.

Then how would you call a person who intentionally omitted the main issue of the above story and called others 'silly'?
Go figure.

So called 'protecting' the society is something I don't mind.
Harassment explained above is a whole different story.

If you still fail to see the difference (like the Aussie and Tripesman), don't bother replying.

Most of our retards became local ticket officers afterwards.:up:

Tribesman

08-27-13, 10:05 AM

Do yourself a favor and be a forum newfag somewhere else.

So you prove yourself again:down:

Then how would you call a person who intentionally omitted the main issue of the above story and called others 'silly'?

The main isuue is that you were nearly caught breaking the law, the issue is that some people think they are above the law, I salute those "scum" and hope they catch you next time and put you off the road as idiots who think the laws of the road don't apply to them shouldn't be on the road.

Harassment explained above is a whole different story.

Harrasment it ain't, harassment would be against the law, you were the one breaking the law

kranz

08-27-13, 10:14 AM

The main isuue is that you were nearly caught breaking the law, the issue is that some people think they are above the law, I salute those "scum" and hope they catch you next time and put you off the road as idiots who think the laws of the road don't apply to them shouldn't be on the road.

sorry but it has already taken you two posts and you are still far, far away from the problem.

I like your tears, tho so I will give you one last try.
Go for it.

Ahhh, you EDITED, I've read it - but it ain't even close.

Armistead

08-27-13, 10:22 AM

It takes a special mindset to be a good cop. I consider myself a good person, but would probably make a bad cop. I also don't think the job is worth the pay.

Sadly, cops have to enforce silly revenue laws. I live in a small town, like most we have our speed traps. When you get about a half mile from town, the speed limit hits 35, but in the last months they moved those signs about another mile further from the city and boy do cops love to catch you, hiding behind that dern barn. Cops have to write so many tickets a day or get in trouble, no doubt, many pick and choose.

kranz

08-27-13, 10:41 AM

I live in a small town, like most we have our speed traps. When you get about a half mile from town, the speed limit hits 35, but in the last months they moved those signs about another mile further from the city and boy do cops love to catch you, hiding behind that dern barn.

that's what I'm talking about.
there are places more dangerous in my city, where hitting a pedestrian happens at least once a week. But you won't see a single cop there.

they prefer those easy spots in which you have to slow down from 90 to 50.

Sure, going above the limit IS breaking the law.
Hiding behind a bush just to increase the city's revenue is not. It's just low.

Betonov's post explains well the problem.
If I, as a citizen, don't see the police doing their job in numerous cases (break-ins, constant accidents in particular spots), I'm entitled to call them like I did above.

I salute those "scum" and hope they catch you next time and put you off the road as idiots who think the laws of the road don't apply to them shouldn't be on the road.

here, dry those rage tears
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/box-paper-tissues-7933890.jpg

AVGWarhawk

08-27-13, 11:12 AM

At the end of the day you were caught breaking the law. Deal with it. :stare:

Jimbuna

08-27-13, 11:17 AM

Do yourself a favor and be a forum newfag somewhere else.

If you still fail to see the difference (like the Aussie and Tripesman), don't bother replying.

:up:

There should be no-one in any doubt of your opinion on the subject matter but when you resort to name calling and insults towards other members using terminology like 'newfag and Tripesman' your breaking the rules.

Please debate without any of the above.

mookiemookie

08-27-13, 11:18 AM

Garion

08-27-13, 11:30 AM

As a former Police Officer, I like to think I was fair. When people called me fascist pig it was water off a ducks back. Nine times out of ten the same people were first on the phone to the Police Station when they were robbed, assaulted or otherwise put-upon.

I used to ask them if they preferred what they had now in law enforcement or if they would prefer a militia or even the army to be in control.

This usually gave them food for thought and they calmed down, at least for the moment :hmmm:

My daughter travels to Russia and other former Eastern Bloc countries, she is fluent in Russian and is often taken to be a native Russian, her friend from Irkutsk looks more Asian and it is She, not my daughter that gets all the grief from the police and the militia.

So I sympathise with with the people in former Eastern Bloc countries. She reports that corruption and bribes are commonplace.

Don't know where I am going with this, but I daresay there are good cops over there as well as corrupt ones.

CHeers

gary

kranz

08-27-13, 11:42 AM

Yeah, those dirty cops who made you push that accelerator pedal down!

Oh wait, you mean they....

Oh...

They didn't write the law and they didn't force you to break it. Put the blame where it belongs.

Lemme guess - you didn't read the story, only the synopsis by Tribesman?

I don't blame the police for doing their job.
You are on the streets? Great:up:

But do your JOB, not MONEY.

Coppers with laser radars are a necessity as long as they stand in the right spots.
Standing in a spot where there haven't been any accidents for 25 years is NOT a good spot.
It's a good spot in terms of money-making and being a pain in the neck for drivers.(yet it is still regarded as 'protecting the law').

I trolled the copper with a silly face, he trolled me back with his laser.:arrgh!:

(waiting for more posts blaming me for not respecting the speed limit)

Don't know where I am going with this, but I daresay there are good cops over there as well as corrupt ones.

sure there are good cops.
They are called Yeti-coppers.

Everyone talks about them - no one has ever seen any.
(j/k)

soopaman2

08-27-13, 12:07 PM

I am not gonna say that revenue producing terds looking for easy busts do not exist, I am speaking on my local police, in my state and township.

But the police in my area, are honest, wave at you as they drive by, call you by your first name.

Even outside of my town, and in situations where I was pulled over, I was treated in a non condescending way, and with respect.

Do the speed limit bro. :03: Why have a speed limit if it is not enforced?

You will get there, try driving over a NJ/NY tunnel or bridge during rush hour for a lesson in patience.:yeah:

Tribesman

08-27-13, 12:20 PM

sorry but it has already taken you two posts and you are still far, far away from the problem.

The problem is, they nearly caught you and you don't like it.

here, dry those rage tears

You are the one crying like a baby who had his hand in the cookie jar.

Lemme guess - you didn't read the story, only the synopsis by Tribesman?

The synopsis where you are ranting because you nearly got caughtbreaking the law?
Thats the story you wrote.
Read your own story then complain if you were in the right.
If you were not in the right you have no grounds to complain.

AVGWarhawk

08-27-13, 12:20 PM

Standing in a spot where there haven't been any accidents for 25 years is NOT a good spot.
It's a good spot in terms of money-making and being a pain in the neck for drivers.(yet it is still regarded as 'protecting the law').

(waiting for more posts blaming me for not respecting the speed limit)

Where would be a good spot for you? It is only a pain in the neck when you are breaking the speed of light and are stopped. Instead of giving fines(to which you are calling a cash grab) would 30 days in the lock up be better?

And yeah, stop speeding and you will have a much better day. Save gas. Maybe save a life. :up:

Oberon

08-27-13, 12:30 PM

Yep, everyone hates a cop until they need one. :doh:

Bingo.

kranz

08-27-13, 01:01 PM

Thats the story you wrote.
Read your own story then complain if you were in the right.
If you were not in the right you have no grounds to complain.

I admitted that I broke the limit in #11.
So what?
a fourth attempt (or even more, stopped counting at the third one) and still a miss.

I have no grounds to complain about speed limits per se but I have grounds to complain about the police not doing what they are supposed to do and, in addition to that, doing 'their jobs' in spots where they are not needed.

Where would be a good spot for you?

I already explained it.
A good spot is where dangerous situations happen, where exceeding the speed limit might be a threat for pedestrians/drivers, near schools, etc.

There are plenty of such spots in my city but the statistics keep saying that they are not becoming safer.
Why?
They are not marked properly - the police can order local authorities to put a speed limit, draw an additional zebra crossing, put a patrol there.

The police, however, always take the easiest way - there are patrols on each of the 3 entrance/exit roads to the city.
Why?
Speed limits from 90-50/40. The easiest way to catch those who fail to break early enough.
Do they break the law - yes, they do.
Should they get a ticket - of course.

Should the police care more for the 'black spots' -yes, they should.
Do they? They don't.

btw: a lock-up for speeding?:huh:

vienna

08-27-13, 01:02 PM

I take rather a bit of exception to the mass characterization of law enforcement as "scum". I have had more than my share of experiences with somewhat questionable encounters with the police, mainly, if not exclusively, with the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD). There used to be a culture of machismo swagger and entitlement in the LAPD fostered by a leadership quite lacking in any reasonable consideration for the public, a culture that permeated to the ranks of the patrol officers. The ratio of those officers who took the culture as a "right" was quite high, but there were honestly a majority who were just trying to do their sworn duties to the best of their abilities, sometimes having to "swim upstream" against the current of the LAPD culture. I was stopped once (one of many, many times) by a pair of LAPD officers. One was a senior office, the other a more junior officer. The junior was very keen to find something, anything, with which to bust me. After searching me and my car, finding nothing, he then made a very thorough check for any (and I do mean any) wants, warrants, reports of recent suspicious local activity, overdue library books, etc. Finding nothing, he then asked me "Have you ever been arrested?" I replied I hadn't which prompted the question "Why not?" I will never forget the exasperated look on the face of a more senior officer when he grabbed the junior and said "Enough! Get back in the squad!" The senior then handed me back my papers and walked me back to my car. When I was back inside, he leaned down to my open window and said "I'm sorry about this. He's not my regular partner. We do have some ----heads on the force." I have known some very good officers on the LAPD and do not lump them in with the losers. After the debacle of the L. A. Riots in 1992, a great effort was made to really overhaul the LAPD and, after a couple of false starts, Chief William Bratton was appointed to head the LAPD. Under his leadership, the LAPD became far more fair, efficient, accountable, less political, and more trusted by the public at large. The quality of a law enforcement agency is reflective of its leadership and the willingness of the public to support it or to seek to correct its flaws...

As for some of those "speed traps", etc., yes, some are abusive, but far more are in place to remedy a problem usually at the behest of those living in an area, If people are creating a potentially unsafe condition by, say, going over the speed limit by "just a few" MPH, they have brought the consequence on themselves. The ticketing officer did not press down on your accelerator, force you to make an unsafe maneuver, cause you to nearly knock down a pedestrian, or any of the other "unfair" offenses for which you may have been ticketed/arrested. It is interesting how many of those who complain about the red light cameras, speed traps, DUI checkpoints, etc. seem to be angry not because they were innocent of an infraction, but, rather, angry because they were caught...

Police, for the much greater part, do what they must to uphold the law fairly. If you feel you must blame someone for being "trapped", blame those like yourself, who tried to "finesse" the law, thus requiring the "trap" in the first place...

<O>

AVGWarhawk

08-27-13, 01:14 PM

kranz
I already explained it.
A good spot is where dangerous situations happen, where exceeding the speed limit might be a threat for pedestrians/drivers, near schools, etc.

Well, here is the deal. The speed limit is set to assist drivers in negotiating the road and making safe passage. The limit is not set on a whim. Roads have been studied since the inception of the automobile and it's limitations. Man and his limitations. Whether you think it is a dumb spot the police do not. The limit was set so people can survive the day. Also, has anyone lodged a complaint on this stretch of road? You know, folks like yourself going over the limit that needs to be addressed. Last weekend I was in corn country. There was a two police car speed trap. Glad the cops were their. There was a jackwagon running my bumper to run faster. He backed off and stayed off my tail after passing the speed trap. These officers serve a purpose. So do speed traps. :)

Tribesman

08-27-13, 01:52 PM

I admitted that I broke the limit in #11.
So what?
a fourth attempt (or even more, stopped counting at the third one) and still a miss.

I have no grounds to complain about speed limits per se but I have grounds to complain about the police not doing what they are supposed to do and, in addition to that, doing 'their jobs' in spots where they are not needed.

It is your complaint that is a miss, a complete miss.
BTW You admitted that you were breaking the limit in post #1.
You have no grounds at all.
The police were doing what they were supposed to be doing, and your own actions show that they were in a spot where they were needed.

The only grounds you could possibly have is that the speed limit as set is wrong for the road in question, in which case it isn't the police at all you should be complaining about

Feuer Frei!

08-27-13, 07:17 PM

I'm curious about only 1 thing.

Why has the thread not been closed or at least a mod has asked the op to edit his initial post?

There is some very colourful language being used and also sends out some seriously inappropriate messages to the subsim community.

I have to say that the first post is nothing more than poorly-worded, useless and imo inappropriate forum material.

We all have our views on the local law enforcement.

But to openly call them inappropriate names and wish them a quick burial 6 foot under is a bit too far.

My thoughts.

Tribesman

08-28-13, 01:37 AM

Look at it this way Feuer Frei, having the OP as it was written shows it for what it is.

Feuer Frei!

08-28-13, 02:39 AM

Look at it this way Feuer Frei, having the OP as it was written shows it for what it is.

And what no-one's mentioned yet (as far as i could see in this thread) is that it's 'characters' (i use the term losely) like this that don't injure themselves but your family member(s) or worse, cause fatalities.

Then to come on here and mouth off garbage...:down:

kranz

08-28-13, 03:14 AM

It is your complaint that is a miss, a complete miss.

Look at it this way: some people got it, some didn't and are still roaming.
You can't really expect the whole society to solve the riddle of the Sphinx, right? Right.

and your own actions show that they were in a spot where they were needed.

:woot:
I don't know why you keep repeating the obvious?
I already said: breaking the law is bad and should be punished.

But that's not the problem.
Re-read the part about the dangerous spots and money-making spots.

The only grounds you could possibly have is that the speed limit as set is wrong for the road in question, in which case it isn't the police at all you should be complaining about
:woot:
the problem is, there is no speed limit sign as such in that particular place.
(grab my hand and we will solve it together)
the place is an intersection of three types of roads:
a highway
an intercity road
a city road.
We can omit the highway as it's not the issue here.
The intercity (speed limit 90) turns into the city road (50) only being marked with a City sign (which automatically obliges you to slow down to 50).
It's a very long straight, around 2 kms.
AVGWarhawk said that speed traps are set for a reason. Sure.
But what reason? Are they set to catch anyone who exceeds the speed limit or to increase safety?
If you have limited forces/patrols, where should you send them?
(25 years - 1 dead motorcyclist (drunk), 1 hit pedestrian)
It's a spot for making money rather than increasing the road safety.
Exceeding the speed limit doesn't automatically make you a potential offender.
Sure it's breaking the law, yet there are places where exceeding the limit is more dangerous than in other places.
When I see a patrol in a profitable spot and absent in a dangerous one, I have the grounds to complain.

There is some very colourful language being used and also sends out some seriously inappropriate messages to the subsim community.

while I agree I might have gone over the limit with the language, the message is pretty straightforward: cops are not doing what they are supposed to do, at least in the place where I live.

I have to say that the first post is nothing more than poorly-worded, useless and imo inappropriate forum material.

some ppl got it, some didn't. face it.

But to openly call them inappropriate names

they are inappropriate as long as you follow the "cops are good guys logic".
otherwise...
Look at it this way Feuer Frei, having the OP as it was written shows it for what it is.
You actually admit that you caught the bait, amirite? :)

Feuer Frei!

08-28-13, 03:24 AM

while I agree I might have gone over the limit with the language Not much doubt really. Diplomacy is a good thing. cops are not doing what they are supposed to do, at least in the place where I live.
That may well be the case but there are ways to vent, and there are ways to vent. As you admitted (with self-doubt) before.

they are inappropriate as long as you follow the "cops are good guys logic"
Let's be clear, we all have our view points on the law enforcement, but it's how we advertise our viewpoints that defines our overall reputation and respect in a community. Whether that'd be online or irl. :up:
otherwise...
? Gush undiplomatic and immature bile? :hmmm:

I don't wanna get into a slanging match with you, just thought it was way over the top the op.

Over and out.

AVGWarhawk

08-28-13, 07:23 AM

kranz
But that's not the problem.
Re-read the part about the dangerous spots and money-making spots.

If it is a money making spot then it is a dangerous spot or potentially dangerous spot. The money is being made for excessive speed that can ultimately be dangerous. Uncontrolled or wreckless driving. :up:

kranz

08-28-13, 09:55 AM

kranz
If it is a money making spot then it is a dangerous spot or potentially dangerous spot. The money is being made for excessive speed that can ultimately be dangerous. Uncontrolled or wreckless driving. :up:

they were there today, 2 days in a row. Plus last Saturday. Plus Sunday a week ago.
They figured out that ppl drive a bit too fast (sometimes) so they decided to exploit it.
Harassment, I tell ya.

Betonov

08-28-13, 10:13 AM

If it's a limit it's a limit :O:
Even if a nice safe part of the road that you can speed up a little, a limit is still a limit. Stick to it if you don't want a ticket. Plus the rustbuckets you drive up there are a safety hazard while parked.

As for everybody else.
You don't know squat. This is Poland. Even postmen are corrupt up there. Cops are going to be looking for profitable locations, not ones that their presence will raise safety.
They're the kind of people that will kick your rear lamp, write you a ticket for a non working light and then throw you in jail when you complained and no one will do anything about since it means a cash flow to the local ''public servant''
I'm surprised that the radar was not rigged so it showed more.
Apart from everyone else giving Kranz a hard time, I'm the only one here that actually lived in an eastern block country, so that also means I'm the only one that actually knows what's the situation. The actual situation, not some idealised projection of one's own perfect peaceful western world where cops are the good guys and so must be everywhere else where there's internet.
15 years ago you caught a burglar in your house at night and you were relieved that it was not a cop.

And for the Jim was a cop part, these are the kind of cops Jim would love to bash their heads in with his baton

Tribesman

08-28-13, 10:30 AM

Look at it this way: some people got it, some didn't and are still roaming.

I get it, you are like a Friday night drunk complaining about the police because they made you stop urinating in the street.

I don't know why you keep repeating the obvious?

Because you don't get it.

the problem is, there is no speed limit sign as such in that particular place.
(grab my hand and we will solve it together)
the place is an intersection of three types of roads

Unless otherwise posted the limit for each type of road is established, you happened to be on one which by law has the equivalent of a 30mph limit during daytime.
You knew it and chose to ignore it, you are the one at fault.

Exceeding the speed limit doesn't automatically make you a potential offender.

Correct, it just makes you an actual offender:rotfl2:

When I see a patrol in a profitable spot and absent in a dangerous one, I have the grounds to complain.

No you don't, as your own actions merit the police presence at that location.

You actually admit that you caught the bait, amirite? :)
So your intention was to make yourself look like a brainless tool with your moaning that defies logic, plus its sprinkled with pathetic insults which make you look like a bigoted moron.
Isn't it amazing how you are trying to defend your post then:rotfl2:

Harassment, I tell ya.
Harrassment would be illegal, yet you are the one doing illegal things, not them.
Your complaint is empty and devoid of reason, your own actions destroy your own complaint.

They figured out that ppl drive a bit too fast (sometimes) so they decided to enforce the law.

See, simple isn't it, "obvious" is the word you are struggling with.

@AVG.
If it is a money making spot then it is a dangerous spot or potentially dangerous spot.
Exactly, if people were not driving dangerously on that stretch of road they couldn't catch anyone for doing it.

AVGWarhawk

08-28-13, 11:00 AM

they were there today, 2 days in a row. Plus last Saturday. Plus Sunday a week ago.
They figured out that ppl drive a bit too fast (sometimes) so they decided to exploit it.
Harassment, I tell ya.

You slowed down right? Then it worked. :D

Sailor Steve

08-28-13, 11:28 AM

On the other hand even in the United States we have speed traps. By "speed traps" I don't mean the cop waiting to catch speeders. I mean the small town on a highway where the speed limit is 50 mph. You come around a curve and right in front of you is a sign that says Speed Limit: 30". Do you slam on the brakes instantly? Maybe, but the tendency is to let up on the gas and coast down to the new limit. The problem is that the cop is waiting behind some bushes to pull you over for the twenty seconds you were in violation of the new limit. This isn't about protecting anyone, and it isn't about enforcing the law. It's how small towns make money, pure and simple. It really is a trap.

I'm not siding with Kranz, and I agree that his initial post was over the top, but I took Betonov's first post to heart and I'm doing the same for his new one. Maybe, just maybe, things really are that bad where Kranz lives.

On the other hand things can get pretty bad even in Mayberry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GobE1jaiXjo

AVGWarhawk

08-28-13, 11:34 AM

On the other hand even in the United States we have speed traps. By "speed traps" I don't mean the cop waiting to catch speeders. I mean the small town on a highway where the speed limit is 50 mph. You come around a curve and right in front of you is a sign that says Speed Limit: 30". Do you slam on the brakes instantly? Maybe, but the tendency is to let up on the gas and coast down to the new limit. The problem is that the cop is waiting behind some bushes to pull you over for the twenty seconds you were in violation of the new limit. This isn't about protecting anyone, and it isn't about enforcing the law. It's how small towns make money, pure and simple. It really is a trap.

Some of that offhanded law enforcement is addressed in some areas. I was driving in the corn country this past weekend. When coming upon a small town with obvious reduced speeds the signs gradually brought your speed down. The posted limit was 50. Warning sign to reduced speed ahead. Posted limit became 40 then in increments of 10 mph and 25 as the final. Then it gradually increased your speed to 50 as you exited town. There was plenty of warning. There should be IMO.

The corn country I was cruising. :D

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/IMAG0677_zpscfb7c388.jpg

Sailor Steve

08-28-13, 11:40 AM

From what I've seen things here in Utah are pretty fair. The signs are usually well in advance of the actual change. It's one of the things I like about where I live.

AVGWarhawk

08-28-13, 12:05 PM

I think items like that needed to be address. Looks like a few states have. Fair is fair right. Unless you are kranz. :haha::O:

Tribesman

08-28-13, 12:24 PM

Betonov

08-28-13, 12:25 PM

I got two cases in my local area. Both times I got puled over for speeding.

First time was when they reduced the speed limit from 70 km/h to 50 km/h on the main road trough a nearby town. And they reduced by removing the 70 sign and that's it. 50 is the urban limit if there's no sign.
The cops were raking in money. Even I fell into it. Managed to talk my way into a lower fine.
That's a stretch of road that's a kilometer long and straight with industry on both sides. Not a particulary dangerous section, but highly profitable one the first few weeks.

Then there's the entrance to the same town. I was leaving the town when I got caught. Managed to talk my way out of it. The thing is that it has some houses right at the side and has a blind corner the size of Russia.
At least 3 people are killed at that section every year. That's police protection of the area.