Say Goodbye to Skype

[Feuer Frei!]

No need. I don't use it.

Not only is Skype plugged directly in to the surveillance grid, but the company is actively contributing to the most complete surveillance system in the history of mankind

http://www.globalwealthprotection.com/say-goodbye-to-skype/

[Betonov]

Talk like a terrorist method is in order here. Allah be praised

[Feuer Frei!]

Even Allah needs his privacy.

[Betonov]

No no, being a deity is a 24/7 job with no vacation.
the perks are already to big

[Ducimus]

No need. I don't use it.



http://www.globalwealthprotection.com/say-goodbye-to-skype/

I should have had my coffee before reading this. Does it ever end? ugh.

[Spiced_Rum]

If someone is listening in to my phone calls, do you think they would provide an answer service for any missed calls when I am out?:hmmm:

[Wolferz]

Goodbye Skype. I never used ye.:woot:

[Rockin Robbins]

I think that not only should terrorists have complete privacy and security while conspiring, but that we should have to provide it at our cost. What kind of a world is it where good guys can't plan to blow stuff up without meddlers?

[Sailor Steve]

I plot evil schemes with Mr J and Mr P, and sometimes Mr McB on Skype all the time. I'm still here.

For the time being anyway.

[Platapus]

I plot evil schemes with Mr J and Mr P, and sometimes Mr McB on Skype all the time. I'm still here.

For the time being anyway.


Are you still here?

Perhaps you have already been arrested and put in one of the American gulags and (cue dramatic music) "The Government" has taken over your account and is now impersonating you here in order to decisive us.

Hmmmm :hmmm:

How do we know who you are and that you are who you claim to be instead of who the government wants us to believe who your are? :doh:

(my head hurts)

[vienna]

I'm always amused when I read posts or see reports in the media about how the gubbamint is using this or that website/social media/app or wahtever to spy on the poor private citizen. The reality is the Gubbamint doesn't really have to do anything to get data on anyone and everyone. A truly surprising number of people (some of whom are the ones complaining) freely give away a mass of information about who they are, what they are, what they do, where they are, and any and all number of vital facts to commercial interests in return for the 'latest' new social media whoop-dee-doo, a percentage off some 'gotta have' merchandise, a free 'too good to be passed on' 'special offer', or the 'omigod, I gotta have' app. The commercial sector is really doing all the work for the powers that be and we are cooperating with the process. All the gubbamint has to do is flash a warrant (or, in most cases, just ask) and the commercial sector gives them all they want and more. And, if there is any fear of possible legal liabilty or exposure, such as with the telecom industry post-9/11, the gubbamint is only too happy to pass a bit of legislation to indemnify the industries against the very public they are exposing to gubbamint scrutiny...

Before you fill out that deatiled required form of your personal data to get that 'gotta have', really think: is it worth it to give this all away and just who will get to see this...


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[Sailor Steve]

Are you still here?
Yes.

Perhaps you have already been arrested and put in one of the American gulags and (cue dramatic music) "The Government" has taken over your account and is now impersonating you here in order to decisive us.
I haven't. They aren't. Trust me on this.

Hmmmm :hmmm:
You're thinking too much. I find your lack of faith disturbing.

How do we know who you are and that you are who you claim to be instead of who the government wants us to believe who your are? :doh:
Trust me. Trust me. You will obe...believe me. You will believe me. :huh:

(my head hurts)
Good! It's working! I'm sorry to hear it. I'll send you some medication for that. In the meantime keep your cell phone pressed firmly against your ear. :D :sunny:

[Wolferz]

Mind your cell phone and be sure to park in the spot where you get the most bars.:shifty:
Microwave ya later.

[Skybird]

I'm still here.

Prove it.

I think you are a trap. That's why I don't talk to you anymore.

Very economic. Two jokes in one. :D

Serious, all e-communication is like a holiday postcard, its open and so everybody can read it. If somebody uses any service running over American servers to e-send something he is concerned about, it's his own fault I would say. I would not even trust e-communication if it runs over German servers only. Because then the wire would be overheard, or the German agencies would do, and share it with the NSA.

And using cloud servers for business- and sensitive information is so much beyond reason that I refuse to even mock about it, that stupid it is.

If I were to travel to China, America, Japan, Korea or Russia, and were a businessman or so, I would never bring my business cellphone or laptop with contact lists or data with me, never. I would buy a cheap one at a random shop at location and throw it away when leaving the country. Business-sensitive data/communication would never be passed electronically at all - never.

[Skybird]

The Guardian today wrote that the big US companies like Google, Facebook, Yahoo and Microsoft cooperated with the NSa while being payed for, the deal was to design their offers, services and softwares in such a manner so that the NSA can always have a foot in the door. Even encrypting your emails is useless, if the spy is within your OS.

Yahoo admitted it. Google denies it. Especially Google :haha: :haha: . They obviously do not know what infamous reputation as a datakraken they already have outside America.

[Sailor Steve]

Prove it.
Prove that I'm not. I don't even know if I'm here or not, but others seem to think so, and that's all that counts. A god is nothing without his worshipers.

I think you are a trap.
No, you don't think. You're not a trap, you're a prat.

That's why I don't talk to you anymore.
So you're talking to yourself. I still hear you.

Very economic. Two jokes in one. :D
I've seen your two and raised you one. Your bet. :O:

Your real post is quite good. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

I plot evil schemes with Mr J and Mr P, and sometimes Mr McB on Skype all the time. I'm still here.

For the time being anyway.

LOL...I should imagine they find some of our conversation topics slightly amusing :)

[vienna]

Just saw a rerun of this this "60 Minutes" piece on facial recognition and it reminded me of some of this thread. Note how truly invasive commercial usage of data has become and how we are becoming ever less able to prevent or control who knows about our personal lives. And, remember, this is not the government, but commercial interests engaged in this activity; but, make no mistake, the government has, and, will "profit" from these commercial efforts:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnfWZvU_Jqo


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[Mr Quatro]

Are you still here?

Perhaps you have already been arrested and put in one of the American gulags and (cue dramatic music) "The Government" has taken over your account and is now impersonating you here in order to decisive us.

Hmmmm :hmmm:

How do we know who you are and that you are who you claim to be instead of who the government wants us to believe who your are? :doh:

(my head hurts)

This is just humor (I laughed), but it could be very true ... Sailor Steve could be anyone. After all he's just a name and a whole lot of numbers and a nice signature just to make us think that he really is who he says he is, but it's not necessarily so ... not all forums are this honest you know?

however due to his peculiar personality I would think it to be very hard to imitate him. Jimbuna to would be a difficult assignment also :yep:

As for Skype ... I am now getting phone calls from solicitors with the ID "this is a Skype call"

Quote of the week: "What if Nixon had of just burned those white house tapes"

[soopaman2]

I showed a guy how to make a sparkler out of a used up lighter on skype.

I guess I am screwed.

I kinda also shared my crystal Meth recipe, and how to get away with uploading snuff films for download on skype.

I also hijacked 4 airliners and raped 3 women and 16 men with skype.

I wished my mother happy birthday with it too, hope the birthday greeting was not too risque.

[Sailor Steve]

This is just humor (I laughed), but it could be very true ... Sailor Steve could be anyone. After all he's just a name and a whole lot of numbers and a nice signature just to make us think that he really is who he says he is, but it's not necessarily so ... not all forums are this honest you know?
Ah, but Jimbuna, NikiMcBee, Neal Stevens, Tarjak, Privateer and I know each other personally. We have all put up many photographs of us together and apart that have been verified by the others. We have all been willing to share our real names publicly. We talk regularly on Skype and know each other fairly well. I've had telephone conversations with some other members here, one of whom I'll be meeting in person in just a couple of weeks. There are othes who have put up pictures which match and have been verified by others. I've exchanged Christmas gifts with one or two others, who also talk freely about their own habits and peculiarities.

I'm the one who has put up videos of myself onstage, old overweight body and all. Everybody knows pretty much who I am, and if you want to know more I'm always willing to talk. I have no secrets...well, a few I keep even from my bestest friends, but I also have some I keep from myself.

Others, like yourself, are just screen names and nothing more. You are the ones we don't know, but still manage to put up with. :sunny:

[vienna]

We have all put up many photographs of us together and apart that have been verified by the others.


One word: Photoshop...

Verified? By fellow traveller and accomplices?....


Technology isn't your enemy; it's your good friend...


After all...



http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEwTHqazmSaJtuzDJHJ2u2wpRcVLPyO 9qPTiYe8lwbVfAK5g4Vdw (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=for+your+own+good&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=dcOdjf3Y8W_l-M&tbnid=xm5E0xLQ1wFGbM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmeme-pictures.feedio.net%2Ftroll-dad-meme-generator%2Fmemecrunch.com*meme*1F8L*dead-troll-dad*image.png%2F&ei=LgIdUtyXGrC8sQSntoDoBA&psig=AFQjCNF1-d_YobUfli9-mBrzm5blxObgOw&ust=1377718987162833)



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[Mr Quatro]

Ah, but Jimbuna, NikiMcBee, Neal Stevens, Tarjak, Privateer and I know each other personally. We have all put up many photographs of us together and apart that have been verified by the others. We have all been willing to share our real names publicly. We talk regularly on Skype and know each other fairly well. I've had telephone conversations with some other members here, one of whom I'll be meeting in person in just a couple of weeks. There are othes who have put up pictures which match and have been verified by others. I've exchanged Christmas gifts with one or two others, who also talk freely about their own habits and peculiarities.

I'm the one who has put up videos of myself onstage, old overweight body and all. Everybody knows pretty much who I am, and if you want to know more I'm always willing to talk. I have no secrets...well, a few I keep even from my bestest friends, but I also have some I keep from myself.

Others, like yourself, are just screen names and nothing more. You are the ones we don't know, but still manage to put up with. :sunny:

Ah ha I hit a nerve center :woot:

but seriously haven't you ever seen a Russian general with all of the medals on his chest ...

one Russian general looks just like another Russian general :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

One word: Photoshop...
Not when it's a picture of someone I've met and hung out with.

Verified? By fellow traveller and accomplices?....
You don't have to trust one of us or all of us. it's your loss.

Ah ha I hit a nerve center :woot:
Not in the least. I just find it amusing that someone who chooses to hide behind a wall of anonymity assumes that everyone else does the same. To you it's an internet forum. To me it's a small group of real friends and a bunch of other people I haven't met yet.

There are some here who are afraid to say who they are or show a picture, yet they want to be treated like friends. I'm not saying you're one of them. My biggest fear is of telling too much, not because I don't want people to know who I am, but because I do, and I'm afraid if I tell to much I might bore them to death. I do that sometimes. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

No nerve centre hit but what Steve forgot to add is the fact some of us have actually met IRL....the one of questionable authenticity is......................Der Onkel :hmmm:

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9707/r5ph.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/r5ph.jpg/)

[Takeda Shingen]

Welp, I've never attended a meet, nor have had the inclination to do so. While I don't regret avoiding such events, the above attitudes do certainly shed light on the quality of treatment that I have received.

[Madox58]

I think I met a few of the people here.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/IMG_0523.jpg

Jim's hideing but he's in there.

And Tak? Your OK. I just wonder about you sometimes.
:haha:
:03:

[Wolferz]

Onkel Neal with his MJ glove and Jimbuna.:up:
Right before they started moon walking and singing Billie Jean.:timeout:

[Madox58]

And that's me walking away in the back ground.
:D

[Wolferz]

You want a face and a name put to my handle?

Just remember you asked for it.:hmmm:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/Wolferz_2007/Family/IMG_0573.jpg

Left to right: Barry L, Michael L (me), Jason B and Morris J Newhouse. My three surviving brothers.

[Mr Quatro]

You want a face and a name put to my handle?

Just remember you asked for it.:hmmm:

Left to right: Barry L, Michael L (me), Jason B and Morris J Newhouse. My three surviving brothers.

I always wondered what the blues brothers looked like :D

[Madox58]

Got any 'Cod Piece' photos?
:haha:

If not? Jim's retired and I'm sure he can whip one out!

[vienna]

I always wondered what the blues brothers looked like :D

Blues Brothers? From the names it's more like the Brothers Gibbs...


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[Wolferz]

Blues Brothers? From the names it's more like the Brothers Gibbs...


<O>

Sorry, not the BeeGees.:haha: Just four members of The Mills Drive Gang.:salute:

[Sailor Steve]

You want a face and a name put to my handle?
Cool. I like knowing people, or at least pretending I do, but...

Michael L (me)
You're the oldest? You're not older than me, are you?

[Sailor Steve]

Welp, I've never attended a meet, nor have had the inclination to do so. While I don't regret avoiding such events, the above attitudes do certainly shed light on the quality of treatment that I have received.
It seems to me there's more than a little misunderstanding here, especially where attitudes are concerned. Sometimes our perceptions are clouded by our own attitudes, and treatment can also be misinterpreted.

For myself, I wish I could meet everybody. On the other hand, while I claim a fairly high order of intelligence, I've never been particulary smart, especially where relationships and communication are concerned. I misunderstand people all the time, and sometimes they misunderstand me. I dislike that, but sometimes I can't seem to avoid it. So I live with it and hope for the best. :sunny:

[Mr Quatro]

Dear Sailor Steve,

Now that you are being so open, honest and straight forward ...

Can you now admit with a google eye bird view of just where you really live?

Does Bluffdale, Utah ... just 25 miles south of Salt Lake City ring a bell?


http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/_f11SwIiuQALoKxF2nglMg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTQyMTtweG9mZj01MDtweW 9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz03NDk-/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/video/video.fbc.news.com/511a8c28b5e6cf69fbbd92fc6bd9b295


http://news.yahoo.com/utah-home-nsas-mega-warehouse-data-080502716.html



BLUFFDALE, Utah (AP) — The nation's new billion-dollar epicenter for fighting global cyberthreats sits just south of Salt Lake City, tucked away on a National Guard base at the foot of snow-capped mountains. The long, squat buildings span 1.5 million square feet, and are filled with super-powered computers designed to store massive amounts of information gathered secretly from phone calls and emails.


I'm not making this up ... it really is called Bluffdale a city of 8,000 people in Utah

[vienna]

Aw, hell, now Steve is gonna have to kill you...

Not to mention all the paperwork involved...


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[Wolferz]

Cool. I like knowing people, or at least pretending I do, but...


You're the oldest? You're not older than me, are you?

No. I'm the second son. Morris is the elder of the bunch by fourteen months.

I'm fifty-nine, he's sixty now. Jason was the youngest and came along around the time I turned sixteen. With my dad on the road all the time driving truck, I was practically his father.

Yeah, I know I look like the most wizened of the gang. That's due in part to genetics and the other part being married to a bitch for seventeen years. :-?
My grandfather was completely white headed before the age of thirty and I got a big dose of it too, though it didn't go all white until I was forty or so.:rock:
That picture was taken moments after my father's funeral three years ago.

Fear not, Steve, you still have what, four years on me?:D

Y'all can stop yawning now.

[Ducimus]

For myself, I wish I could meet everybody.

Which is true. Steve wanted to meet my fugly mug as well, I just haven't taken him up on it yet. I'm not far from his area, which i think is somewhere on the outskirts of SLC, im not sure. I don't make it up there very often.


I'm not making this up ... it really is called Bluffdale a city of 8,000 people in Utah

Nothing wrong with a name like Bluffdale. Everything in the world wrong with the NSA, but if your looking to make fun of small hodunk towns, Bluffdale is hardly an object of ridicule as compared to some other places. There are a lot of small towns in Utah, and honestly, I think it's great. Going to a home town 4th of july parade has a lot more meaning to it, and there's a much stronger sense of community, and you actually talk to your neighbors and invite them over for dinner or vice versa. WHich reminds me, I need to call one of my neighbors tonight, been meaning to get back with him for a few days now.

[Sailor Steve]

Now that you are being so open, honest and straight forward ...
I've always been open, honest and straightforward.

It's one of my worst traits. :dead:

Can you now admit with a google eye bird view of just where you really live?
Sure, I have no problem with that. I've put up pictures of my apartment building both before and during the construction project.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Image1_zps6aa6061a.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/SailorSteve/media/Image1_zps6aa6061a.jpg.html)

Does Bluffdale, Utah ... just 25 miles south of Salt Lake City ring a bell?

I'm not making this up ... it really is called Bluffdale a city of 8,000 people in Utah
Of course know where Bluffdale is. It's the southernmost town in the Salt Lake Valley, so the last town you pass before going over the Point-Of-The-Mountain into Utah Valley and the Prove-Orem cityplex. It's also the home of the Utah State Prison.

Yeah, I know I look like the most wizened of the gang. That's due in part to genetics and the other part being married to a bitch for seventeen years. :-?
Ooh, juicy gossip! :O:

My grandfather was completely white headed before the age of thirty and I got a big dose of it too, though it didn't go all white until I was forty or so.:rock:
My friend Rocky was totally white by the time he was fifty. He used to complain about my lack of gray. On the other hand while I still look like I have hair, I have to be honest in that it has receded pretty far over the years, at least on the sides. I'd trade mine for his any day. You can dye hair, but you can't fix what isn't there.

That picture was taken moments after my father's funeral three years ago.
Always a good time for families to get together, even if it's a sad one. My dad died last year.

Fear not, Steve, you still have what, four years on me?:D
There are a few folks here older than I am, but most of them don't post on a regular basis, and few come to GT.

Which is true. Steve wanted to meet my fugly mug as well, I just haven't taken him up on it yet. I'm not far from his area, which i think is somewhere on the outskirts of SLC, im not sure. I don't make it up there very often.
I'm at the north end of the city, on the west side. That said, I have a car now and am more than willing to meet you halfway, or even make the whole trip myself. I don't get out of Salt Lake much, and any little trip is worth the price of the gas to me.

There are a lot of small towns in Utah, and honestly, I think it's great.
With names like Bountiful, Centerville, Springville, American Fork, Spanish Fork, Manti, Moab, St. George and Tooele (pronounced "Toowilla"). Among my favorites is Wendover, which is where the B-29 crews trained for the atomic bomb missions, and Kamas, a tiny town in the mountains which in spite of its small size has its own suburb, called Samak.

[Rilder]

Brb, gonna copy-paste the Communist Manifesto to all my friends on Skype. :O:

[Ducimus]

I'm at the north end of the city, on the west side. That said, I have a car now and am more than willing to meet you halfway, or even make the whole trip myself. I don't get out of Salt Lake much, and any little trip is worth the price of the gas to me.


I've only been to SLC a handful of times, and haven't been north of Temple Square. One of these days I need to do a road trip and explore the rest of Northern Utah. I've seen a bit of southern utah. If Mr Quatro thought Bluffdale was an object of ridicule, he'd probably get a kick out of Hurricane, pronounced "hur-can".

I live somewhere south of AF, and north of Payson. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Got any 'Cod Piece' photos?
:haha:

If not? Jim's retired and I'm sure he can whip one out!

Always happy to oblige :03:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1981/bhwq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/bhwq.jpg/)

[Sailor Steve]

One of these days I need to do a road trip and explore the rest of Northern Utah.
One of my favorite rides back when I had a bike was to go up Emigration Canyon until I was in the Uinta Mountains, then wind my way south near Sundance and come down Provo Canyon, then head home on the freeway. The whole Park City area is gorgeous in the summer (winter too, but that's not a good time for mountain rides).

I used to drive a bus route (in a van - things were slow) south from Salt Lake to Delta, then west to Ely, Nevada. The next day I would drive north to Wendover, then east back to Sal Lake. It could be really dull but in fact the desert was beautiful, and at one point the road crosses the old Pony Express trail. Not only is there a marker but you can still see the trail today, going off through the hills.

Utah has a lot of great places to drive through. If you've been to the state capitol did you check out Gravity Hill? It's part of the road running around City Creek Canyon. If you stop at the right place the terrain makes it look like you're pointing downhill when you're not, so if you stop the car it seems like you roll backwards - uphill!

[Madox58]

Always happy to oblige :03:



Dang it! I didn't mean one of me!
:nope:

[Jimbuna]

Get on Skype ya cheapskate....Nancy will be well impressed :)

[Mr Quatro]

Nothing wrong with a name like Bluffdale. Everything in the world wrong with the NSA, but if your looking to make fun of small hodunk towns, Bluffdale is hardly an object of ridicule as compared to some other places. There are a lot of small towns in Utah ...

I agree ... I love the little town of St George, Utah. It was small the last time I was there.

I had just lost a couple of hundred dollars in Vegas when I was passing through with just ten (10) dollars left and a gasoline credit card. I stole (lifted) a snickers candy bar from a little ma and pa store there with wooden floors no less.

I still feel guilty ... guess I will have to go back and repay them someday :yep:

as for you Jimbuna ... stop it with the cod piece pictures :o

[Jimbuna]

as for you Jimbuna ... stop it with the cod piece pictures :o

Where's your sense of adventure? :03:

[vienna]

I thinki most of us are worried about our sense of sight...

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[Jimbuna]

A pretty go[/URL]od safeguard...

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:03:

[vienna]

There isn't enogh of that in the world to compensate for some of those pictures...


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[Jimbuna]

There isn't enogh of that in the world to compensate for some of those pictures...


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True that :)

[Betonov]

Sure, I have no problem with that. I've put up pictures of my apartment building both before and during the construction project.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Image1_zps6aa6061a.jpg (http://s14.photobucket.com/user/SailorSteve/media/Image1_zps6aa6061a.jpg.html)



I love the simplicity in American design. Nice and coordinated.

And then there's a Slovene village
http://www.studio-ritem.si/pic/page/karte/kulturna_dvorana_breznica.gif

[Sailor Steve]

It looks like the village was made to fit the existing terrain. There's nothing wrong with that. There are American cities laid out like that. Try finding order in a map of Los Angeles. Parts of it are grids, but large parts are laid out over the terrain - your village on a huge scale. Giving someone directions to our house involved step-by-step instructions: Get off the freeway here, turn left at this light, follow the road up the hill and watch the street signs. The fifth street up is ours. Follow it for five houses, and look for our number.

During the 19th century there was a Utopian movement in the United States. Many small religious and other groups attempted to create communities that would promote harmony and peace among their members. The Mormons weren't exactly one of those, but some it rubbed off. I've never been a fan of Brigham Young, but I admit he had a genius about him, and part of that showed in his vision for Salt Lake City. The entire city is a grid, and all the streets are numbered. I've mentioned this before, so I won't go into the details of how it works. One of the things people notice is how wide many of our streets are. This came about because Brigham specified that they be wide enough for a "double-yoke team of oxen", or four oxen hitched to a wagon, to turn around in the street without having to back up.

[Betonov]

It looks like the village was made to fit the existing terrain.

:yep:

The yellow road on the map is the base of the hill. Houses are pushed into the hill because the flat land was reserved for fields.

[Jimbuna]

:yep:

The yellow road on the map is the base of the hill. Houses are pushed into the hill because the flat land was reserved for fields.

Very similar here in the UK countryside/Lake District etc.