British warship in 'routine' Gibraltar visit

[Jimbuna]

Would probably have gone unnoticed if recent events over fishing rights hadn't taken place.


And the Spanish foreign minister has reportedly mooted bringing in a new 50 euro (£43) fee on every vehicle entering or leaving the British territory.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

As if unemployment wasn't bad enough in Spain...he does realise there are a lot more Spaniards than Gibraltarians come and go...doesn't he? :hmm2:

[Oberon]

Routine, eh? :haha:

[Schroeder]

The RN still has operational warships?:doh:

:O:

[BossMark]

Routine, eh? :haha:
It was just passing through on her way to visit, err..............

[Oberon]

It was just passing through on her way to visit, err..............

Madrid? :haha:

The RN still has operational warships?:doh:

:O:

Oh yeah, just one, we just keep changing the name, no-one's noticed yet. :ping:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Madrid? :haha:



Oh yeah, just one, we just keep changing the name, no-one's noticed yet. :ping:

:har:

Could well be routine, plenty popped in for my two visits.

Just wait for the marines to storm the wrong beach again.

[Oberon]

:har:

Could well be routine, plenty popped in for my two visits.

Just wait for the marines to storm the wrong beach again.

Well, they train hard for storming the wrong place:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAoj-dFU3UM

:up:

Per Mare Per Muddum! :salute:

EDIT: A quick google tells me that they're actually Arty boys rather than Marines, so I think we'll let them off.

[Jimbuna]

Next we'll be reading reports of a certain countries submarine colliding with one of those concrete blocks :)

[Oberon]

colliding with one of those concrete blocks :)

Concrete block? You mean the S-80 SSK? :O::haha:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Concrete block? You mean the S-80 SSK? :O::haha:

:har: That was my thought too.

[Jimbuna]

Concrete block? You mean the S-80 SSK? :O::haha:

Take yer pick but either way it will be the UK's fault :)

[Jimbuna]

Next escalation level....handbags at twenty paces :)



Gibraltar row: UK considering 'unprecedented' legal action

The UK government is considering legal action against Spain over the imposition of additional border checks in Gibraltar, Downing Street has said.
A spokesman said the prime minister was "very disappointed" by Spain's failure to remove the checks over the weekend.
Legal action through the EU would be "unprecedented", the spokesman added.
The Spanish government, which has said its checks are essential to stop smuggling, said it would not relax border controls.
Spain said it had an "obligation" to police the border, and insisted its controls were legal and proportionate.


Can you believe this? :)

A government spokesman also said Spain was considering taking the dispute to the UN Security Council, where it could seek the support of Argentina.

[BossMark]

Just my bloody luck booked to go to Majorca in about 4 weeks time and our bloody lousy government as to go and pick a fight with Spain :/\\!!

[Jimbuna]

You'll be fine....Spain badly needs all your Pesos.

[Sailor Steve]

Take yer pick but either way it will be the UK's fault :)
I thought the US had a monopoly on ships running into inanimate objects. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Just my bloody luck booked to go to Majorca in about 4 weeks time and our bloody lousy government as to go and pick a fight with Spain :/\\!!

You'll be perfectly fine, just about all the locals rely on tourist's cash in some way, and your far enough away from the mainland for it to seem unrealistic. :yeah:

I think if it came to a vote of the world's nations the UK would lose hands down - but I still think it's right we're there as we have been for hundreds of years.

[Jimbuna]

Gibraltar was captured by an Anglo-Dutch force in 1704 then ceded to Britain "in perpetuity" in 1713....300 years ago.

[Herr-Berbunch]

That's right, hundreds of years.

I can't believe that Illustrious has deployed on this exercise. Still, all those Whitehall pen pushers could launch paper aeroplanes from it.

The Spanish must be bricking it.

[Jimbuna]

I've heard we are even bring the sole surviving Vulcan back into service, just in case Argentina does support the claim :o

[Tribesman]

Can you believe this?
What ? Cameron deciding that he likes the European courts now.

Gibraltar was captured by an Anglo-Dutch force in 1704 then ceded to Britain "in perpetuity" in 1713....300 years ago.
In perpetuity? you mean like hong kong was.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Wasn't HK only on a 99 year lease?

[Tribesman]

Wasn't HK only on a 99 year lease?
No.
Territory under the first and second conventions was in perpetuity.
New territories under the third convention were on the 99 year deal.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Thanks for clarifying :salute:

[Tribesman]

No worries, there are other examples but Hong Kong is always handy example against the two most common arguments put forward on overseas territories.

[BossMark]

My thoughts are with the unfortunate people of Gibraltar just now.

Stuck between a rock and a hard-up place.

[Herr-Berbunch]

^ :har:

It's a lovely place, I remember being woken from my drunken slumber on a bench by a Gibraltarian in a British bobby's outfit. Apparently it's not allowed there.

I won't say what happened shortly after, it's a diplomatic low point in my life, but I got a lift back to my accomodation. :D

[Jimbuna]

First ship I joined was at Gibraltar and it was only on landing I realised they lowered the railway crossing-like barriers because the road cut across the runway.

[Herr-Berbunch]

It only closes a few times a day now, mostly for civvy flights, I'd love to have been there when it was militarily busier.

[Jimbuna]

I'm going back to 77, we were a civvie flight inbound from Luton Airport but it was late evening so I never got to see anything, besides...we left the port about 2 or 3 am iirc.

[the_tyrant]

I was there 2 months ago, beautiful place, don't miss it.

I don't think the Spanish would succeed in their claim, after all, Gibraltar was "Spanish" for a shorter period of time than it was British. The Brits have controlled Gibraltar for 300 + years and counting. The Spanish have controlled it for only 242 years.

[Skybird]

Melilla. - Ceuta. - And silence should fall over Rajoy. Or does he have that short a memory?

With the corruption charges against him, and Spanish financial downfall, his manouvering is all too obvious anyway.
And he wants to ally with Argentine? Is that that Argentine that recently expropriated and nationalized Spanish Repsol-daughter YPR Oil? This holds a lesson for those states in Europe that pay the bills of the debtmasters in the South: no matter their lamenti, no matter their mutual rhetorics, no matter their conflicts: when it comes to blackmailing their paymasters and raising demands, they will forget all that - and unite. when it comes to money and claims and demands for more, dog don't eat dog.

Beware the beggars. They think their raised hands express a legal claim of theirs against you, and they scratch their purulent wounds to prevent them from healing and so to present them and push you onto the defensive by their sight. Antoine Saint de Exupery had something to say on that in the opening pages of his great novel "Citadel".