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nikimcbee

07-15-13, 08:16 PM

So, has baseball season even started yet? Oh, the all-star game is tonight?

The Twins still stink, Red Sox are red hot. Wicked pissah! Atleast one team was able to fix their pitching woes.:dead:

Going to see the Twins-Mariners next week. Somebody has to win. I got wicked seats, right behind the visiting bench. Joe Mauer cult member.

http://mlb.mlb.com/home

Watching the home run derby. That must be a blast to be one of those kids playing in the outfield.:rock:

Tomorrow, I'm taking the kids to see our brand new minor league team, free kids jersey night.:woot:

http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Minnesota-Twins.gif

http://eephusleague.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/redsox31.gif

Red October1984

07-15-13, 08:59 PM

CARDINALS FOR LIFE! AND WORLD SERIES 2013!

We have the best record in baseball right now. :arrgh!: I feel it in my gut...we can go all the way this year.

Went to a game on May 20-something against the Royals. Wore my Matt Holliday jersey and sat in the nosebleed with my friends. It was a good time. I love going to games and watching my team play America's game. :yeah:

Great thread. :sunny: I love baseball.

Father Goose

07-15-13, 11:26 PM

The Cardinals will have to go through Atlanta to get to the Series! :rolleyes:

Red October1984

07-16-13, 12:17 AM

The Cardinals will have to go through Atlanta to get to the Series! :rolleyes:

We've done it before...We'll do it again. :Kaleun_Wink:

:Kaleun_Los:

TarJak

07-16-13, 01:43 AM

This game stumps me. Its just not cricket. ;)

the_tyrant

07-16-13, 02:02 AM

My local team SUCKS!

The blue jays are just not doing well, worst in their division! A few more years of this, and they will be down to Astros or Merlins level!

Ps: for a more through understanding of baseball, I really recommend moneyball the book. Great book.

AVGWarhawk

07-16-13, 07:56 AM

Orioles have 5 in the All Star Game. They are having a good season. Hope to see them in post season play. :yeah:

Jimbuna

07-16-13, 03:37 PM

This game stumps me. Its just not cricket. ;)

Well it certainly doesn't stump the usual suspect :)

soopaman2

07-16-13, 03:57 PM

I made a bet with my friend who is a Mets fan that the Mets would finish better than the Yankees. (Disgusted Yankee fan here. Nothing but injuries, if it wasn't for Mariano Rivera, they would be sunk, crap pitching, second string players at best. )

I guess I had my fun, in the past.

Kick A-rod out of baseball, please. I can only spend so many years tolerating that cheating playoff choke-artist...

All hail the Jeter! The only beacon on this team!

nikimcbee

07-16-13, 04:16 PM

soopaman2

07-16-13, 04:20 PM

Hey! This is an A-rod free zone!:stare:

Not even trashing him?

I would like to forget him too.:O:

Sadly I can't, when I turn on the game every night ;)

nikimcbee

07-16-13, 04:25 PM

Not even trashing him?

I would like to forget him too.:O:

Sadly I can't, when I turn on the game every night ;)

I don't understand the (sport) media's obsession with him:doh:. I'll be watching MLB channel, and there is always some sort of "breaking news regarding A-rod.:shifty:

Breaking news...A-rod just [insert whatever he did here]:shifty:.

Must be an East Coast thing.

soopaman2

07-16-13, 04:52 PM

A vehement hate for him more like.

Most hated player ,on the most hated team.

I get what ya mean mean though, but I ask for an exemption from the anti a-rod ban, as I am a Yankee fan who has been forced to deal with his "0 for 4s", in multiple playoffs.. :O:

Red October1984

07-16-13, 06:35 PM

This game stumps me. Its just not cricket. ;)

Cricket confuses me. :)

My local team SUCKS!

The blue jays are just not doing well, worst in their division! A few more years of this, and they will be down to Astros or Merlins level!

Ps: for a more through understanding of baseball, I really recommend moneyball the book. Great book.

Have the Blue Jays ever done good? Ever?

:O:

u crank

07-16-13, 06:55 PM

Have the Blue Jays ever done good? Ever?
:O:

Never. :har:

http://mlbblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/blue-jays-pride.jpg

But they sure suck this year.

Father Goose

07-16-13, 07:14 PM

I've never watched American Idol but the winner of that show sang the national anthem and stunk up the place with her own version in front of many honored veterans. You could see some of them cringing on the line.

When will baseball insist the song be presented the way it is suppose to be and stop the disgraceful renditions. :down:

Tom Seaver threw out the first pitch so the show is making a comeback. :up:

Red October1984

07-16-13, 07:23 PM

Never. :har:

But they sure suck this year.

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/cardinalswspa-1.jpg

Become a Cardinals fan. We have fans literally all over the country.

We do pretty good....The last season I remember where I seriously thought we sucked was 2007 after everybody got traded off after the '06 Series win.

u crank

07-16-13, 07:28 PM

Become a Cardinals fan. We have fans literally all over the country.

So do the Jays. Different country though.:D

Red October1984

07-16-13, 07:48 PM

So do the Jays. Different country though.:D

Well...the fans of the Jays even admit that they suck. :O:

How did the Canadians get involved in MLB Baseball anyway? :timeout: (No offense)

u crank

07-16-13, 07:54 PM

How did the Canadians get involved in MLB Baseball anyway? :timeout: (No offense)

None taken. We needed something to do when we weren't playing hockey.:03:

the_tyrant

07-17-13, 02:04 AM

Well...the fans of the Jays even admit that they suck. :O:

How did the Canadians get involved in MLB Baseball anyway? :timeout: (No offense)

Hey, we uses to have 2 baseball teams!

And than the expos folded.

I think baseball should really try to tap into the huge international market. The rays were talking about moving, and I always thought it would be good if they moved to Mexico City or something

Red October1984

07-17-13, 02:20 AM

Hey, we uses to have 2 baseball teams!

And than the expos folded.

I think baseball should really try to tap into the huge international market. The rays were talking about moving, and I always thought it would be good if they moved to Mexico City or something

Ahhhhh...I like baseball being a domestic thing with the US... :hmmm:

It gives me something to be proud of...this is America's Game... (even if the Northern Friends want to play, they can. Toronto is close enough to the border :up: )

I like that we have MLB... There are other international leagues but it just isn't the same.

Now if there was a world league too....I wouldn't mind... That would actually be pretty cool...A team from whichever countries want to participate...kinda like the olympics.

Just as long as America keeps her baseball the way it is. :sunny: Along with the leagues for the kids... If they ever take away our baseball, I will be seriously pissed...It's like taking Hockey from you Canadians. It can't be done. I'm not saying that we should shut out other countries...just simply that if it's good the way it is why fix it? I really enjoy it the way it is.

Now the players can come from other countries...our former powerhouse Albert Pujols was a great ballplayer... WAS! and he is Dominican. Everybody loved the guy. I have no problem with other countries sending people to play baseball. There's all kinds of great players from countries that aren't the US or Canada.

Sorry if this sounds kinda oddly worded or not making sense in some parts...Baseball is something in every American's blood IMO and it's something I feel strongly about (being my favorite sport and all :) )....and I've been awake for about 22 hours... I AM TIRED! :yep:

Baseball should be American. I'm just simply stating my opinion. It's good that you have an opinion. A lot of the European members here don't understand baseball...they are Cricket people...and we don't understand that. Everybody has their own game and has a right to that game. I just feel that baseball is ours. :know:

soopaman2

07-17-13, 11:13 AM

In Citi field, where my crosstown rivals, the Mets play, Mariano Rivera recieved a 2 minute standing ovation from not only the crowd, but from both benches.

(edit: BTW he pitched a 1-2-3 inning.)
(He is retiring after this year)

If you look at his save stats, no one is anywhere near catching or breaking his record.

He is the Babe Ruth of closers, and of course he is a Yankee.:O:

Every stadium he has been in, he actually got cheers as he came out from away team fans, which is big, because when he comes in, it means your team is losing.

Much class from the fans and both benches last nite, love or hate the Yankees, you have to admit, Rivera will be the best for a long time.

I once saw a documentary on him, where he showed how to make a glove from a milk carton, like he used in Panama as a kid.

Now a first ballot hall of famer, and a class act of a man. Great to fans, especially kids.

Father Goose

07-18-13, 07:56 AM

CARDINALS FOR LIFE! AND WORLD SERIES 2013!

Well Red, our National League lost the home field advantage in the World Series due to their pathetic 3-hit performance. Looking at the bright side, it will be a lot easier for me to attend World Series games 3, 4 and 5 in Atlanta. :O:

soopaman2

07-18-13, 11:27 AM

Hey, we uses to have 2 baseball teams!

And than the expos folded.

I think baseball should really try to tap into the huge international market. The rays were talking about moving, and I always thought it would be good if they moved to Mexico City or something

You invoked some questions from me. Just spawned some curiosity in me.

How does Canada feel about baseball? Is it like Hockey in the US where only the hardcores follow it? (NJ devils fan!:up:)

MLB is only interested in franchising cities who could draw and sell Jersies.

Would it be viable in Canada, or is it somewhat "secondary" and just something that is there?

I would love to see more Canadian teams, the season is long enough to allow for it.

I agree with you too, the name "world series" should mean the world.

But the overpaid princesses may have to play more games, poor millionaires.

ReallyDedPoet

07-18-13, 11:37 AM

soopaman2

07-18-13, 11:51 AM

If the 1994 strike did not happen the Montreal Expos could have very well won the World Series that year. From there a new downtown stadium would have been built. More than likely the team would still be there today if that happened.

I still call them the Expos, and even get yelled at for it.

I just have a problem with them becoming decent, with MLB subsidies under the Washington Nationals banner.

When as the Expos, MLB let them fold, they failed to vet its inept owner, and he ran a franchise into the ground.

Kinda like Bud Selig, when he owned the Brewers, guess what, they still suck!

Give Montreal back a team!

I been to Montreal, what a city, people kinda hate Americans, but I was too drunk to care!:D:smug:

Red October1984

07-18-13, 01:51 PM

Well Red, our National League lost the home field advantage in the World Series due to their pathetic 3-hit performance. Looking at the bright side, it will be a lot easier for me to attend World Series games 3, 4 and 5 in Atlanta. :O:

Well...

Cardinals still beat Atlanta. Of course the losing team always comes up with "we lost the momentum" excuses. :O: :D

the_tyrant

07-18-13, 03:56 PM

I really believe in general expansion of the MLB to be honest. As I believe that if the sport is stuck as an America only thing, it would lose popularity as other sports slowly gain traction in the US.

Baseball isn't huge in Canada, but that's probably because we only have 1 team, and they suck really badly. They did do very well viewership wise back when they did good in the 90s though (Toronto's sports teams are generally of a poor quality, we have to take whatever we get). but than, the team has declined to such a poor state a few years back that they had to resort to selling tickets for 2$ (and still barely get people watching).

I believe in a general expansion of the MLB. some teams are struggling hard in the US, why not move them? The Marlins, Rays, A's, Astros and so on aren't doing very well financially in their current markets.

In my opinion, a second team in Canada is an easy decision. Montreal's Expos were ruined by a strike and Omar Minaya (worst manager in baseball?) A team in Montreal or Vancouver would be a good choice, as they can both support a major league baseball team. (as seen here: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2013/6/21/4452550/the-next-mlb-city-the-top-10 )

Mexico city would also be a great choice, there is enough talent in the Mexican league (officially classed as AAA) to fill out a major league team, and it could increase the sport's popularity in the Hispanic American population.

Finally, if I was Bud Selig, I would even work with the Japanese leagues, making them into "major league" leagues. Play with them for a few weeks every season (162 games a season is boring if played against the same few teams every year). Fly all the American teams into a japan for 2 weeks or so, and do the opposite thing the next year. Hell, have the best North American team play the best Japanese team for the world series, at least it would make the name itself credible. the Japanese are actually very, very good, and can provide tough competition against the NL and AL with their more refined playing style

PS: if your stadium is less than half full most of the time, it means you should re-locate. If your stadium is less than half full even though your team is doing great, than you should definitely relocate.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

eddie

07-18-13, 06:41 PM

I don't follow baseball as much as I used to. Loved going to see the Twins play at Met Staduim back in the 1960's! Killebrew, Allison, Oliva, Carew etc. Those were great games back then, except when the Yankees came to town. Couldn't shut down the likes of Mantle, Maris, Howard,Berra, Ford and company!

The All Star games back then were something to watch too. It wasn't often that you could see the likes of Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Orlando Cepeda, Matty Alou, Ernie Banks, Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson,Juan Marichal, playing together on one team!

On the American League side, you would have Harmon Killebrew, Mickey Mantle, Elston Howard, Brooks Robinson, Boog Powell, Tony Oliva, Al Kaline, Norm Cash, Sam McDowell, Gary Peters, Camilo Pascual, Whitey Ford plus a host of others.

Miss them days,lol

the_tyrant

07-23-13, 02:31 PM

soopaman2

07-23-13, 02:58 PM

CC Sabathia is now in trouble:

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/7/22/4543236/sabathia-new-york-yankees-analysis

Man, the yankees need to revise their stratagy. Stop relying on signing proven stars, and get a better damned farm system!

Or at least trade for young hot prospects, don't bother signing 30 somethings for long periods

Yankees had a great farm system. the last one to come out of it was Jeter, the rest were traded for aging stars, who burn the fans. ( edit: sorry, Robinson Cano is homegrown, and a hell of a player)

A-roid.....a lifetime ban please, I'd rather have a 12 year old playing third than him, will most likely hit better in the playoffs.

At this point, I am jealous of the Mets.

All the Yanks problems aside, they will still make the playoffs, but the fans know this is only the decline into mediocrity, like the '80s.

Father Goose

07-29-13, 08:07 AM

Well...

Cardinals still beat Atlanta. Of course the losing team always comes up with "we lost the momentum" excuses. :O: :D

Braves sweep Cardinals in 3-game series! :rock:
Red, looks like the Cards "lost momentum" this past weekend. :hmmm:

You didn't think I could let that go unnoticed. The Cards better just concentrate on winning their division and leave the pennant to Atlanta. :D

nikimcbee

07-29-13, 09:30 AM

Thanks for bumping the thread for me. I went to my first Mariners game. Twins Won!!!:woot: I'm totally inlove with Safeco field. I'll post photos when I get off work.

My son saw his first major league game.:woot:

the_tyrant

07-30-13, 12:21 PM

A-rod might get kicked out by Bud Selig.
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/7/30/4570690/alex-rodriguez-a-rod-bug-selig-mlb-biogenesis-ban

the_tyrant

10-12-13, 12:25 AM

2 - 2 in the 13th of game one NLCS right now!

Go watch it! The cardinals will crush the goddamned draft dodgers today!

Red October1984

10-12-13, 12:36 AM

My Cardinals prove they are the best once again. :yeah:

That was a good game. Looking forward to a World Series win this year. It's been a whole 2 years since the last one...we're 2 years overdue. :woot:

nikimcbee

10-12-13, 09:43 AM

Wicked Pissah. Go Twi...I mean Red Sox. At least the Twins didn't break a 100 loses this year. (They were projecting that:down:) I can't believe they traded Morneau away though.:-?

Had a great baseball summer though, went to a whole bunch minor league games.:rock:

nikimcbee

10-23-13, 11:54 PM

http://alumni.umassd.edu/s/1355/images/gid2/editor/event_photos/red-sox.png (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=RSe6GAj1BOXyLM&tbnid=LUvbf4PQY1IXtM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Falumni.umassd.edu%2Fredsox&ei=46doUryhH8a4kQess4Bw&bvm=bv.55123115,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNGd7EBXKk_d872hydyBbUdXm1uQiw&ust=1382676798878018)

Red October1984

10-26-13, 05:25 PM

To my fellow Baseball fans who also own Android devices,

9 Innings: 2013 Pro Baseball is the best app ever... :yeah:

the_tyrant

10-27-13, 10:20 AM

To my fellow Baseball fans who also own Android devices,

9 Innings: 2013 Pro Baseball is the best app ever... :yeah:

Have you tried MLB The Show? Arguably the best sports sim ever.

Slightly off topic:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3238835/villar-butt-phillips-butt.gif

And of course, the internet is exploding because that call last night:

http://www.baseballnation.com/hot-corner/2013/10/27/5033612/world-series-game-3-obstruction-call-allen-craig

Red October1984

10-27-13, 12:18 PM

Have you tried MLB The Show? Arguably the best sports sim ever.

No I haven't but IIRC it's only available on Playstation.

And of course, the internet is exploding because that call last night:

That call made me happy.

:)

But in all fairness, I believe it was the right call. The third baseman was in the way.

nikimcbee

10-29-13, 02:22 PM

nikimcbee

10-29-13, 02:24 PM

Have you tried MLB The Show? Arguably the best sports sim ever.

Slightly off topic:

And of course, the internet is exploding because that call last night:

http://www.baseballnation.com/hot-corner/2013/10/27/5033612/world-series-game-3-obstruction-call-allen-craig

I love that game. I bought the one with Joe Mauer on the cover.:rock:

Red October1984

10-29-13, 05:53 PM

:/\\k:

NO!

Never!

My Cards will pull through. :yeah:

nikimcbee

10-31-13, 07:13 PM

http://harvardsportsanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ortiz.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=JjqFb7L8gNSQfM&tbnid=vORucYaK5qWzuM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fharvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.c om%2F2012%2F06%2F05%2Fdavid-ortiz-and-the-fountain-of-youth%2F&ei=_fFyUoqCAoGriALL3IHwAQ&bvm=bv.55819444,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNGgq7GFOQ4C_92Ttrz4ZkortGaltg&ust=1383351153280136)

.688

the_tyrant

11-01-13, 12:12 AM

Ahh, and I told all my friends to wager their life savings on the cardinals.

Well, better luck next year!

magic452

11-01-13, 01:29 AM

Ahh, and I told all my friends to wager their life savings on the cardinals.

Well, better luck next year!

It looks like you're in the market for some new friends. :hmmm::D
The old ones are gathering pitch forks and torches. :o:o

Magic

Red October1984

11-01-13, 04:30 PM

Ahh, and I told all my friends to wager their life savings on the cardinals.

Well, better luck next year!

2014 will be our year. Just wait.

We might be losing Beltran though. I hope not. He's finally got on a good team and now the Yankees are looking at him.

He'll do nothing but sit the bench with them.

nikimcbee

11-01-13, 05:03 PM

Everybody keeps talking worst to first story, so that means it's the Twins turn.:/\\k:

Red October1984

11-01-13, 09:03 PM

Everybody keeps talking worst to first story, so that means it's the Twins turn.:/\\k:

Don't be silly... :haha:

the_tyrant

11-01-13, 10:40 PM

Everybody keeps talking worst to first story, so that means it's the Twins turn.:/\\k:

The Blue Jays stand a better chance:haha:

At least we are a big market team (led the league in attendance back in the winning years), and we have a big enough payroll to buy a few decent free agents.

Interesting aside:

High payroll doesn't guarantee victory, but it does allow us to sign free agents, and to sustain a "win now!" model. Considering that "market price" for 1 WAR is like 5 million, and a replacement level team wins 48 games a season.

Assume that it takes 95 wins to make it into the post season, a pure free agent team would costs approximately 240 million dollars a year! A value that only the Yankees and Dodgers can afford.

Now how do teams with low payrolls succeed than? Through their minimum-wagers. Minimum wage in baseball is 0.5 million. Now no player in their right mind would accept minimum wage as a free agent unless his skill level is approximately only replacement level. However, remember, for the first few years of major league service, a young player does not have the right to negotiate pay. Thus for the first few seasons, every young player gets minimum wage. And it is because of this reason that low payroll teams can succeed.

It takes years in a farm system to make a young play major league ready. And thus, it is impossible for a team to go from "worst to first" on the power of their farm system alone. Thus a team must rely on smart front office moves and free agents to make the post season.

The Red Sox were only able to do this because they have the second highest payroll in the league. They were able to flex their financial muscles, get rid of dead weight, and make it to the top. The Twins cannot achieve this, since their payroll cannot allow them to get the free agents they need.

So yeah, what I'm trying to say is, the Blue Jays will be top dog next year instead of the Twins. :O:

Red October1984

11-02-13, 12:10 AM

So yeah, what I'm trying to say is, the Blue Jays will be top dog next year instead of the Twins. :O:

Maybe it's time for the 2014 Thread to start...

Speculation and Arguments over how the Cardinals will win games and how many they win shall begin.

I feel like these guys...

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/the_good_word/2012/08/120821_GWORD_SNLSwerski.jpg.CROP.rectangle3-large.jpg

But of course, for St. Louis....because Chicago is the accursed city.