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Reece
06-16-13, 09:51 PM
Just received this on a HYDROPAC message::hmmm:
VESSEL HORIZON SINKING IN 16-47.702S 171-34.685W.
THREE PERSONS ABANDONED TO LIFERAFT

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1306/S00350/three-rescued-from-sinking-ship.htm

Jimbuna
06-17-13, 04:36 PM
Good outcome :sunny:

Red October1984
06-17-13, 04:58 PM
Good outcome :sunny:

A ship was lost and this is good?

Yes people were saved...thats great...but a ship was also sunk! That's not awesome. :timeout:

Sailor Steve
06-17-13, 05:25 PM
Where did he say it was awesome? The crew could have died. They were saved. Ships can be replaced. Lives can't.

Grow up.

Red October1984
06-17-13, 06:18 PM
Where did he say it was awesome? The crew could have died. They were saved. Ships can be replaced. Lives can't.

I was meaning that it shouldn't happen in the first place!

Ships sinking is never good. :-? I know that ships can be replaced and that it's really really good that they saved these people...but I'm saying that it would be better if it didn't even happen. :yep:

Grow up.

:shifty:

Reece
06-17-13, 06:51 PM
Don't get upset, was just a bad hair day for Steve!!:yep:

WernherVonTrapp
06-17-13, 07:01 PM
Glad to hear that all hands were rescued.:yep:

Sailor Steve
06-17-13, 09:05 PM
Don't get upset, was just a bad hair day for Steve!!:yep:
Not at all. What he said was totally uncalled for, attacking someone for saying the crew surviving was a good outcome? Just went down several notches in my book.

Not, as he constantly brags, that he cares one way or the other.

I'm done.

Cybermat47
06-17-13, 09:11 PM
Just received this on a HYDROPAC message::hmmm:
VESSEL HORIZON SINKING IN 16-47.702S 171-34.685W.
THREE PERSONS ABANDONED TO LIFERAFT


Forgive me for my ignorance, but how did you receive this message?

And what's HYDROPAC?

Red October1984
06-17-13, 09:22 PM
Forgive me for my ignorance, but how did you receive this message?

I was wondering the same.... :hmmm:

Not at all. What he said was totally uncalled for, attacking someone for saying the crew surviving was a good outcome? Just went down several notches in my book.

Not, as he constantly brags, that he cares one way or the other.

I'm done.

Okay...what I said was not worded correctly...also once again I have shoved my size 15 foot in my mouth and down my throat. :doh:

I constantly brag that I care about things? :hmmm:

If there's something that I'm doing that you don't like...tell me please. If I'm doing something and I'm not aware of it I can't change it. I didn't mean to attack Jimbuna. I was trying to say that this entire ordeal is bad and shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

I can't change your opinion of me. What you think of me is your opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted. If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

Nippelspanner
06-17-13, 09:25 PM
And what's HYDROPAC?

Finally someone asks, since I didn't want to :D

TarJak
06-17-13, 09:32 PM
http://msi.nga.mil/NGAPortal/MSI.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=msi_portal_page_63

Red October1984
06-17-13, 09:47 PM
When I open that link, it freezes this forum page. :hmmm:

EDIT: That's pretty cool. I didn't know they did that.

Plus there's a nice archive of nautical calculators that are fun to play with even though I have no idea how to actually use them.

BrucePartington
06-17-13, 09:51 PM
FWIW, you're ok in my book, I understood your comment correctly.
It seems G.S.Patton also suffered from this "ailment": "your own mouth is your worst enemy!"
And I'm also a member of this particular club :haha:

Back on OT, it's great news the crew was saved. Many fishermen are not so lucky.

(snip)
Okay...what I said was not worded correctly...also once again I have shoved my size 15 foot in my mouth and down my throat. :doh:
(snip)
I was trying to say that this entire ordeal is bad and shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

I can't change your opinion of me. What you think of me is your opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted. If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

CaptainMattJ.
06-17-13, 11:22 PM
The fact that the boat sank and that people's lives were put in danger is obviously not good.

Your comment, however, were a bit unnecessary because you misunderstood Jim's comment. He said that it was a good outcome. Outcome, implying that he was talking about the response that happened AFTER the boat's sinking was inevitable, and not the event as a whole.

You of course know that now and everything, but don't jump at something without understanding it thoroughly first. That's how arguments that shouldn't happen in the first place start.

Red October1984
06-17-13, 11:37 PM
The fact that the boat sank and that people's lives were put in danger is obviously not good.

Your comment, however, were a bit unnecessary because you misunderstood Jim's comment. He said that it was a good outcome. Outcome, implying that he was talking about the response that happened AFTER the boat's sinking was inevitable, and not the event as a whole.

You of course know that now and everything, but don't jump at something without understanding it thoroughly first. That's how arguments that shouldn't happen in the first place start.

Think before I post....Got it. :yep:

The past two days...I think I just need a good punch in the face. :dead:

Reece
06-17-13, 11:49 PM
http://msi.nga.mil/NGAPortal/MSI.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=msi_portal_page_63
Yes, the signals and schedule summary for ships/vessels at sea:


FREQUENCIES:
12579.0 KHZ
16806.5 KHZ
22376.0 KHZ

TIMES:
HYDROPAC BCST: 0230 AND 0900 UTC
WX BCST: 0500, 1500, 1900, AND 2315 UTC

NOTE: CARRIER OR DIAL FREQUENCY IS LOCATED 1700 HZ BELOW THE ASSIGNED
FREQUENCY (-1.7 KHZ).

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING
SERVICE PROVIDED BY THIS STATION, PLEASE WRITE TO:

COMMANDING OFFICER
U.S. COAST GUARD MARIANAS (GUAM)
US NAVAL ACTIVITIES VICTOR PIER
SANTA RITA, GU 96915-0001

PHONE: (671) 355-4818
FAX: (671) 355-4831
BT
DE NRV GUAM

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NMC/NMO GMDSS SITOR FEC BROADCAST

FREQUENCIES:
8416.5 KHZ
12579.0 KHZ
22376.0 KHZ AT 0130, AND 2030 UTC ONLY.

TIMES: 0130, 0730, 1330, AND 2030 UTC

Red October1984
06-18-13, 12:02 AM
Yes, the signals and schedule summary for ships/vessels at sea:

So you need some sort of special radio to listen... :timeout:

All the cool things are just out of reach.

Sailor Steve
06-18-13, 09:27 AM
I constantly brag that I care about things? :hmmm:
No, you've said several times in the last few days that you don't care what people think.

If there's something that I'm doing that you don't like...tell me please.
No, this one thing just set me off.

Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.
Ships sink. Planes crash. Cars crash. Fires happen. Buildings collapse. It's a fact of life. When it does happen the best possible outcome is that the lives can be saved. When everyone gets out alive it's a good day.

I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted.
It's not that. You've insisted a couple of times recently that you're no longer a kid. This seemed particularly childish to me.

If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.
The minimalist best would have been "I wish the ship could have been saved too", but everyone feels that way, which is why we have the phrase "that goes without saying."

AVGWarhawk
06-18-13, 10:46 AM
Did a ship sink?

Sailor Steve
06-18-13, 10:50 AM
Did a ship sink?
No. It's a conspiracy.

AVGWarhawk
06-18-13, 10:57 AM
That is what I thought. :up:

Red October1984
06-18-13, 11:03 AM
It's not that. You've insisted a couple of times recently that you're no longer a kid. This seemed particularly childish to me.

Everybody has their moments. :dead: This was one of mine.

The minimalist best would have been "I wish the ship could have been saved too", but everyone feels that way, which is why we have the phrase "that goes without saying."

I know now what I should've said but at this point it's done.

Just have to turn the page and move on and try to do better.

Sailor Steve
06-18-13, 11:05 AM
I've said my piece. I've calmed down. Life goes on. :sunny:

Betonov
06-18-13, 11:15 AM
Ease up on the kid, he's still young.

He still likes gas guzlers, he'll learn

Sailor Steve
06-18-13, 11:21 AM
I thought I just did.

Betonov
06-18-13, 11:24 AM
future reference :O:

Red October1984
06-18-13, 11:25 AM
Ease up on the kid, he's still young.

He still likes gas guzlers, he'll learn

So I like Camaros and Mustang.... :)

It isn't my fault that your country uses the Metric System for gas. :O:

I thought I just did.

Calm down everybody. I don't want this to start a new argument. :timeout:

I see that you've calmed down Steve. :yep: The argument has come and gone. Betonov is just a bit late to the party.

Betonov
06-18-13, 11:27 AM
The argument has come and gone. Betonov is just a bit late to the party.

I had a sun stroke yesterday, still coming too :doh:

AVGWarhawk
06-18-13, 01:45 PM
Did a ship sink?

Oberon
06-18-13, 02:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T9hxwtF.gif

AVGWarhawk
06-18-13, 02:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T9hxwtF.gif

I'm guessing a Obama robo-call. :O:

Jimbuna
06-18-13, 02:53 PM
I was wondering the same.... :hmmm:



Okay...what I said was not worded correctly...also once again I have shoved my size 15 foot in my mouth and down my throat. :doh:

I constantly brag that I care about things? :hmmm:

If there's something that I'm doing that you don't like...tell me please. If I'm doing something and I'm not aware of it I can't change it. I didn't mean to attack Jimbuna. I was trying to say that this entire ordeal is bad and shouldn't have happened. Yes, it's great that the crew was recovered alive...but it would've been much better if a boat didn't sink and people's lives weren't put in danger.

I can't change your opinion of me. What you think of me is your opinion and everybody is entitled to their own. I know I've apologized many times before and I probably will apologize many more times throughout my lifetime. This is yet another example of how I didn't think before I posted. If I had elaborated a bit and thought about the post it would've come out different.

Now that the waters appear to be calm I'd suggest you take stock of some of your recent posts and the responses some of them have received from your peer group because IMHO it appears that in your eagerness to respond to so many of the posts on various threads your not giving due consideration to what you have typed before pressing the submit button.

Most importantly...learn from others because we have all been there at some time or other in the past.

None of us is as clever as all of us.

Red October1984
06-18-13, 03:13 PM
Now that the waters appear to be calm I'd suggest you take stock of some of your recent posts and the responses some of them have received from your peer group because IMHO it appears that in your eagerness to respond to so many of the posts on various threads your not giving due consideration to what you have typed before pressing the submit button.


That's spot on. :timeout:

I need to slow down.

Reece
06-18-13, 07:06 PM
Gee this thread has whipped up such a storm I fear another ship may be lost!!:doh:

Jimbuna
06-19-13, 01:33 PM
Gee this thread has whipped up such a storm I fear another ship may be lost!!:doh:
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