Speaking Of Language...

[Sailor Steve]

I was looking up something this morning when I came across this website, and fell in love.
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

It's designed for profession writers, but if there's anything you've ever wanted to know about the English language this is the place to find it out. I discovered several things that I didn't know, which doesn't surprise me. There are actually a lot of things here that are fun.

For example: I've always known that "data" is plural, and one of them is a "datum". What I didn't know is that "data" has been popularly used as a singular for so long that these days some scientists have coined "datums" as a plural! To me that is just weird.

Anyway, if the study of your own language, or a foreign one to you foreigners, has ever interested you at all, this could be interesting as well as helpful. To those of you not so inclined, move along, nothing to see here.

[kranz]

bookmarked!

tanks:salute:

[frau kaleun]

Bookmarked here as well. Cool find!

[Betonov]

Distributed to a couple of english teachers, thanks :up:

[Red October1984]

Nice... :yeah:

[Wolferz]

Bookmarked to my favorites bar.:up:

For those seeking enlightenment...
See? The internet is good for much more than pron.:hmmm:

My forte' was never English per se', but English words and their spelling, origins and definitions. Vocabulary.
Something that is not pusillanimous but, pulchritudinous.


I think I just heard Armisteads' head explode.:haha:

[WernherVonTrapp]

There's always room for improvement. I already have the "WordWeb" on demand dictionary software installed. I've also added this link.:up:

[Armistead]

Something that is not pusillanimous but, pulchritudinous.


I think I just heard Armisteads' head explode.:haha:


I hate to be left out of the big word debate, hurtful, but these days I can hardly put words togther. My head exploded the first month you came here in force.

pusillanimous

Did you call me a wus......with a P.

[Spiced_Rum]

Thank you, I have also bookmarked this website.

I can recommend 'Eats, Shoots & Leaves' by Lynne Truss, the zero tolerance approach to punctuation. Explains grammar rules, and use of punctuation.:know:

[Red October1984]

pusillanimous

Did you call me a wus......with a P.

I think he did!

GET HIM! :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

I was looking up something this morning when I came across this website, and fell in love.
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html#errors

It's designed for profession writers, but if there's anything you've ever wanted to know about the English language this is the place to find it out. I discovered several things that I didn't know, which doesn't surprise me. There are actually a lot of things here that are fun.

For example: I've always known that "data" is plural, and one of them is a "datum". What I didn't know is that "data" has been popularly used as a singular for so long that these days some scientists have coined "datums" as a plural! To me that is just weird.

Anyway, if the study of your own language, or a foreign one to you foreigners, has ever interested you at all, this could be interesting as well as helpful. To those of you not so inclined, move along, nothing to see here.

Well seeing as how you divven talk proper, perhaps our verbal exchanges in future will become more understandable and productive :D

[Sailor Steve]

I can recommend 'Eats, Shoots & Leaves' by Lynne Truss, the zero tolerance approach to punctuation. Explains grammar rules, and use of punctuation.:know:
:yep: A truly entertaining and informative tome. :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

Ipusillanimous
Spiro Agnew, for all his boisterous blustering, was amazing with his alliteration.

"Pussillanimous pussyfooters."

"Nattering nabobs of negativism."

Of course those weren't created by him but by speechwriter William Safire, but still...

[Wolferz]

Speechify.

[Sailor Steve]

Speechify.
Browncoat!

[TarJak]

Delectable delights of discourse! Great site Steve.:up:

[WernherVonTrapp]

I can recommend 'Eats, Shoots & Leaves' by Lynne Truss, the zero tolerance approach to punctuation. Explains grammar rules, and use of punctuation.:know:That's something I need to work on. I've forgotten so much of what I learned, and I'm sure my proper punctuations have decreased over the years.:yep:

[kranz]

Got minus 0,5 point for the example below today. I don't want to start a separate thread or bother people with PMs so maybe someone could give it a shot here:

the context: write a report on company's condition etc...doesn't really matter, the staff were given a survey...it doesn't matter. One of the points (tell me please which one is correct)

A) The staff stated that the company does not....
B) The staff stated that the company did not....

[Sailor Steve]

I think both are correct, but if the statement is about the current condition then "does not" would be more appropriate. "Did not" represents the past tense, but "The staff stated" is also past tense, so "Did not" seems like a good choice. The real question is not whether the staff stated it yesterday or five minutes ago, but whether the company's intent is current or past. "Did not" could be taken mean that they didn't intend whatever yesterday, but will tomorrow. "Does not" is definitive: The company does not intend ever to do whatever it is.

Both are correct, but "does not" is better.

At least that's my opinion.

[edit] To make that jumble easier to understand, just look at it with contractions:

1. The staff stated that the company doesn't...

2. The staff stated that the company didn't...

You can see how the second one can be understood more than one way.

[Wolferz]

Whoa!!!
Corporate double speak from the sound of it.:hmmm:

[kranz]

I think both are correct, but if the statement is about the current condition then "does not" would be more appropriate. "Did not" represents the past tense, but "The staff stated" is also past tense, so "Did not" seems like a good choice. The real question is not whether the staff stated it yesterday or five minutes ago, but whether the company's intent is current or past. "Did not" could be taken mean that they didn't intend whatever yesterday, but will tomorrow. "Does not" is definitive: The company does not intend ever to do whatever it is.

Both are correct, but "does not" is better.

At least that's my opinion.



Thanks, that's exactly how I understand it.
The whole report was about staff who were supposed to say what was/is wrong with the company's condition.
The full sentence was:
The staff stated that the company does not facilitate self-development of the employees.
The teacher underlined -ed in stated, crossed out does and put did above.
The grammar question is: can the Present Simple be used after the Past Simple in that case? The more natural option would be Past Simple+Past Simple but I've read somewhere that the former is also acceptable for ongoing processes/currents states etc. (Hewings, Advanced Grammar in Use)

[Penguin]

I think both are correct, but if the statement is about the current condition then "does not" would be more appropriate. "Did not" represents the past tense, but "The staff stated" is also past tense, so "Did not" seems like a good choice. The real question is not whether the staff stated it yesterday or five minutes ago, but whether the company's intent is current or past. "Did not" could be taken mean that they didn't intend whatever yesterday, but will tomorrow. "Does not" is definitive: The company does not intend ever to do whatever it is.

Both are correct, but "does not" is better.

At least that's my opinion.

[edit] To make that jumble easier to understand, just look at it with contractions:

1. The staff stated that the company doesn't...

2. The staff stated that the company didn't...

You can see how the second one can be understood more than one way.

I do agree, but I wouldn't say that describing the current condition would cover any future intention, as in this case it would be more correct to say the company doesn't (covering both present and past) and won't....(covering the future).

Thanks, that's exactly how I understand it.
The whole report was about staff who were supposed to say what was/is wrong with the company's condition.
The full sentence was:
The staff stated that the company does not facilitate self-development of the employees.
The teacher underlined -ed in stated, crossed out does and put did above.
The grammar question is: can the Present Simple be used after the Past Simple in that case? The more natural option would be Past Simple+Past Simple but I've read somewhere that the former is also acceptable for ongoing processes/currents states etc. (Hewings, Advanced Grammar in Use)

You can also see this example as an indirect quote. At the moment the survey was taken, the employees said (directly): "The company does not facilitate self-developement". So in this case, using Simple Past and Simple Present is necessary to avoid a misunderstanding- at least in my use as a stupid foreigner :))
As Steve pointed out: didn't would be misleading, as it could mean that the employees said :"They didn't facilitate... (untill last year. Now they do)".

Hey that's a nice thread, let's hijack it as a resource for us English learners! :arrgh!:

[Penguin]

Here's some other uninteresting stuff I bookmarked:

Mentalfloss is a great site, which quite often has some articles on language, words or grammar. Some examples:
11 Weirdly Spelled Words—And How They Got That Way (http://mentalfloss.com/article/13076/11-weirdly-spelled-words—and-how-they-got-way)
From Y'all To Youse, 8 English Ways to Make "You" Plural (http://mentalfloss.com/article/12916/yall-youse-8-english-ways-make-you-plural)
19 Confounding Discrepancies Between American English and British English (http://mentalfloss.com/article/12843/19-confounding-discrepancies-between-american-english-and-british-english)

Some alternatives to outfox subsim's word filter - some words look a lil cheesy and outdated though this gives them a special charm :):
141 Alternative Ways to Cuss Politely (http://agentfrey.blogspot.de/2012/01/bad-words-141-alternative-ways-to-cuss.html)

And what you always wanted to know about the word "curmudgeon" (who wouldn't?) (http://theweek.com/article/index/239469/a-short-tempered-history-of-the-curmudgeon) Hail Curmudgeon Day! :salute:

[Wolferz]

BOB SAGET! works well in mixed company.:up:

[Sailor Steve]

Here's some other uninteresting stuff I bookmarked:
Some good stuff there! :rock:

[Sailor Steve]

BOB SAGET! works well in mixed company.:up:
It took me a minute to get what you were trying to say. I have lots of those. When I was a sailor I prided myself on the number of curses I could string together in one sentence. Nowadays I pride myself on being able to string together sentences of insults without swearing at all.

So don't mess with me, you rum-running, egg-stealing, slime-swilling, two-timing, name-dropping, mud-racing, freight-hauling, coat-turning, banjo-picking, chance-taking, course-changing, back-stabbing, pragmatic prognosticator! I mean it, Bob Saget!

[frau kaleun]

So don't mess with me, you rum-running, egg-stealing, slime-swilling, two-timing, name-dropping, mud-racing, freight-hauling, coat-turning, banjo-picking, chance-taking, course-changing, back-stabbing, pragmatic prognosticator! I mean it, Bob Saget!

You forgot "nerf-herding." :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Who's scruffy-looking? :stare:

[Wolferz]

Who's scruffy-looking? :stare:


I am. but i'm no nerf herder.
You son of a Siberian stack of water buckets.:03:

Frau K likes scoundrels and good kisses.:O:

[Catfish]

A Koala walks into a bar ..
He demands a meal, then makes love to the waitress, shoots the owner and walks out of the bar.

Someone yells at him "Hey you can't do that !"
But he answers: "Of course i can. I am a Koala ! Look it up in the Encyclopdia Britannica" !"
And the man reads : "Koala. Eats roots, shoots and leaves."

So the Koala imagined a comma after 'eats', with a tragic outcome .. but of course the entire point for using correct grammar is nil, since Koalas cannot really read.
:hmm2:

[frau kaleun]

Frau K likes scoundrels and good kisses.:O:

Yes she does and that combination has caused her nothing but trouble. :O:

[Wolferz]

Yes she does and that combination has caused her nothing but trouble. :O:

Hmmm:hmmm: Must have been the wrong scoundrels.:03:

[Sailor Steve]

A Koala walks into a bar ..
Since Spiced Rum already posted a link to the book itself, I'd say you're a day late and a dollar short.

Also "Eats roots, shoots and leaves" is good grammar, whereas the original "Eats, shoots and leaves" is not, hence the point of the joke.

Adding "roots" to the punch line only works if you add an extra comma: "Eats, roots, shoots and leaves".

So, your version fails on all points.

[Dan D]

I do remember that I have heard that koala joke before, but what is with the second comma in the second amendment?

Second amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State "," the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Some say: "The provision’s second comma divides the Amendment into two clauses; the first is prefatory, and the second operative."

"The decision invalidating the district’s gun ban, written by Judge Laurence H. Silberman of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, cites the second comma (the one after “state”) as proof that the Second Amendment does not merely protect the “collective” right of states to maintain their militias, but endows each citizen with an “individual” right to carry a gun, regardless of membership in the local militia."

Or no individual right to carry guns or what?

Others think that you should read it as “a well-regulated militia ... shall not be infringed.”

"Now that the issue is heading to the Supreme Court, the pro-gun American Civil Rights Union is firing back with its own punctuation-packing brief. Nelson Lund, a professor of law at George Mason University, argues that everything before the second comma is an “absolute phrase” and, therefore, does not modify anything in the main clause. Professor Lund states that the Second Amendment “has exactly the same meaning that it would have if the preamble had been omitted.”

"Refreshing though it is to see punctuation at the center of a national debate".

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/opinion/16freedman.html?_r=0

The Supreme Court then ruled that the second amendment offers an individual right to carry guns,right?
But what if the court changes its mind about the meaning of the comma one day? :woot:

[Sailor Steve]

I do remember that I have heard that koala joke before, but what is with the second comma in the second amendment?
You're opening up a whole new can of worms and inviting a major derailment. I'll just say that if you like modern grammar try to avoid reading anything from the Founders. Their punctuation comes from a whole different world.

Here is an article that argues that the construction of the 5th Amendment does indeed allow interrogators to compel a prisoner to give evidence against himself as long as certain procedures are followed.
http://www.floridalawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/NardellaNote-BOOKEIC2.pdf

Read any of the Founders' writings. They really loved their commas.

[Dan D]

True, we, at least the two of us, certainly we won't start another debate on the gun issue here in this thread. I think, the best way to learn about your own language is to learn a second language. The best German teacher I have ever had was from England with a degree in German language who taught me English, e.g.: the English future Simple is equivalent to the German future II: "I will have being been".

[TarJak]

Since Spiced Rum already posted a link to the book itself, I'd say you're a day late and a dollar short.

Also "Eats roots, shoots and leaves" is good grammar, whereas the original "Eats, shoots and leaves" is not, hence the point of the joke.

Adding "roots" to the punch line only works if you add an extra comma: "Eats, roots, shoots and leaves".

So, your version fails on all points.

It's actually a wombat and it eats, roots and leaves.:03:

[troopie]

So, your version fails on all points.


Aye, koalas don't eat roots! :haha:

[Catfish]

It's actually a wombat and it eats, roots and leaves.:03:

No, i first heard it from an Aussie some 30 years ago, and it was a Koala :D

[Sailor Steve]

A recent exchange in the 'Ask The Next Person A Question" thread has raised another peeve of mine - The mangling of Middle English. The simple rule of pretending to use the old phrasing is this: The 'th' ending replaces the modern 's' ending. Period. So when people think they're being cute by using old phrasing they often look silly and lame instead. Some examples (I'll leave names out of it):

Dost thou liketh Shakespeare-eth?
Translates to "Do you likes Shakespeare-s?

The correct phrase would be "Dost though like Shakespeare?"

Dost thou liketh Shakespeare's style of writing?
Same thing. It's the same as asking "Do you likes Shakespeare's style of writing?" Shakespeare would never make that mistake.

My baseball doth breaketh Frau Kaleun's window on the summer's eve.
Equals "My baseball does breaks Frau Kaleun's window..."

Should be "My baseball breaketh..." Or "My baseball doth break..." The second is workable but the first is best.

Another favorite is the use of "Ye olde book shoppe". The spelling is fine but if you pronounce it "Ye", thou art in error. "Ye" does not start with "Y", but with an old English character called a "thorn". It looks like a modern "Y" but is pronounced "th", thus the word is still pronounce "the". This does not hold true in old books such as The Bible. In that case the speaker is addressing a person or group of people and "Ye" is the same as "You".

[Spiced_Rum]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2072541#post2072541)
Another favorite is the use of "Ye olde book shoppe". The spelling is fine but if you pronounce it "Ye", thou art in error. "Ye" does not start with "Y", but with an old English character called a "thorn". It looks like a modern "Y" but is pronounced "th", thus the word is still pronounce "the". This does not hold true in old books such as The Bible. In that case the speaker is addressing a person or group of people and "Ye" is the same as "You".

This also annoys me. "Ye" equals "The". I was taught that when printing began, the English printers needed a letter for the 'th' (ye) sound, and so used the Y symbol for 'th' because it saved space and was a letter in the English alphabet.

I had thought that the King James Bible uses "Ye" instead of Thee. Old English 'thee & thou' being the familiar & polite forms of you. (possibly like the French 'tu et vous', and German 'du und sie / dir und ihr'?)

[Penguin]

The correct phrase would be "Dost though like Shakespeare?"
[...]
Shakespeare would never make that mistake.

:D

Thou rascal beadle, hold thy bloody hand! :O:

A great explaination of the old forms can be found here (http://www.kencollins.com/explanations/why-05.htm).

I used to think "thou" would be the formal address and "you" is the informal one. So I find it interesting that linguisticly English speakers adress their friends and family formal - similar to the Spanish "usted" or the German "Sie". In Germany it was common to address your parents with "Sie" untill the early 20th century - at least in the upper-class :-?

I am glad that even popular movies have it wrong, e.g. In Return of the Jedi Darth Vader asks the Emperor: "What is thy bidding, my master?" which sounds formal to modern ears, though in Medieval days he would have said "your bidding" - don't know if the y in "you" would be capitalized in written language back then.

edit: damn, Spiced Rum beat me by 2 minutes! :)

[Sailor Steve]

:D

Thou rascal beadle, hold thy bloody hand! :O:
Good catch! :oops:

On reflection an even better form would have been "Likest thou Shakespeare?"

Oh, and nice article.

[Catfish]

[...]
Also "Eats roots, shoots and leaves" is good grammar, whereas the original "Eats, shoots and leaves" is not, hence the point of the joke.

True i was late, but you misread my post.
I wrote the man read "Eats roots, shoots and leaves" in the EB which was correct, which is why i wrote "So the Koala imagined a comma after 'eats', with a tragic outcome .. .".
It is already hard enough for a non-british writer, without you misreading my posts :hmph:
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:D:03:

And now for something (not so) completely different:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=argumant+clinic

[TarJak]

No, i first heard it from an Aussie some 30 years ago, and it was a Koala :D
Can't have been a real Aussie then.:03:

[Wolferz]

Romeo Romeo wherefore art thou?


Down in yon bushes. Passeth thy White Cloud.

[Sailor Steve]

First, terrible joke.

Second, "wherefore" is not synonymous with "where", but "why".

Third,
Passeth
Didn't pay attention in class. :nope: :O:

[frau kaleun]

Didn't pay attention in class. :nope: :O:

I'm told he also runs with scissors and eats the paste when nobody's looking. :O:

[TarJak]

Oh Forsooth!

[Sailor Steve]

Oh Forsooth!
I bite my thumb at you, Sirrah!

[frau kaleun]

A POX ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES!

[TarJak]

Thou loggerheaded bat-fowling flirt-gill! I will most humbly take my leave of you. You cannot, sir, take from me anything that I will not more willingly part withal.

[Spiced_Rum]

2B or not 2B? That is the question. Should I ring the bell and wake up the fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons be all my sins remembered.

[Jimbuna]

What a piece of work is man! how noble in reason! how infinite in faculty! in form and moving how express and admirable! in action how like an angel! in apprehension how like a god! the beauty of the world, the paragon of animals!

[frau kaleun]

Bah.

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

[Jimbuna]

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[Spiced_Rum]

“Well, God give them wisdom that have it; and those that are fools, let them use their talents.”

[Jimbuna]

I will speak daggers to her, but use none.

[Spiced_Rum]

"O happy dagger!
This is thy sheath; there rust, and let me die."

[Wolferz]

Me thinketh thou nerdest too much, oh herders of Nerfs.:arrgh!:

A cunning linguist I am not.:salute:

But, I play one on TV.

[Jimbuna]

When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions.

[Spiced_Rum]

When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions.

For the non herders of Nerfs:

When bad things happen, they don’t come one at a time, like enemy spies, but all at once like an army.

[Jimbuna]

But, for my own part, it was Greek to me.

[Catfish]

Farfel farfel, pipik.

[TarJak]

Thou art so leaky that we must leave thee to thy sinking.

[Jimbuna]

A dish fit for the gods.

[Spiced_Rum]

"He hath eaten me out of house and home".

[Jimbuna]

Cry "Havoc," and let slip the dogs of war.

[Spiced_Rum]

I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit; and, upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry! England and Saint George!'

[Jimbuna]

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;

[Spiced_Rum]

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England, now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

[Sailor Steve]

This is a way to kill a wife with kindness,
And thus I’ll curb her mad and headstrong humor.

[Jimbuna]

As he was valiant, I honour him; but, as he was ambitious, I slew him.

[Sailor Steve]

Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.

[Spiced_Rum]

“Thy husband is thy lord, thy life, thy keeper,
Thy head, thy sovereign, one that cares for thee,
And for thy maintenance; commits his body
To painful labor, both by sea and land;
To watch the night in storms, the day in cold,
Whilst thou li’st warm at home, secure and safe;
And craves no other tribute at thy hands
But love, fair looks, and true obedience-

[Jimbuna]

Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once.
Of all the wonders that I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.

[Spiced_Rum]

He reads much;
He is a great observer, and he looks
Quite through the deeds of men.

[Jimbuna]

If you prick us, do we not bleed? if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?.

[Spiced_Rum]

“I hold the world but as the world, Gratiano, A stage where every man must play a part, And mine a sad one.”

[Jimbuna]

The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.

[Spiced_Rum]

Superfluity comes sooner by white hairs, but competency lives longer.

[TarJak]

What the Dickens is it with all this Shakespeare?

[Spiced_Rum]

"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen [pounds] nineteen [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
Mr Micawber, in David Copperfield

[Jimbuna]

What the Dickens is it with all this Shakespeare?

Et tu, TarJak! :O:

[frau kaleun]

Et tu, TarJak!

It is a far, far better thing that he does, than he has ever done. :O:

[Jimbuna]

It is a far, far better thing that he does, than he has ever done. :O:

I like not fair terms and a villain's mind. :smug:

[Sailor Steve]

In a word, I was too cowardly to do what I knew to be right, as I had been too cowardly to avoid doing what I knew to be wrong.

[Jimbuna]

The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.

[Sailor Steve]

Can I quote Jimbuna on the same page? He did. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

I wear the chain I forged in life....I made it link by link, and yard by yard; I girded it on of my own free will, and of my own free will I wore it.

[Spiced_Rum]

To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man.

[TarJak]

Et tu, TarJak! :O:

I like not fair terms and a villain's mind. :smug:

The devil can cite scripture for his purpose.

Electric communication will never be a substitute for the face of someone who with their soul encourages another person to be brave and true.
- Charles Dickens

[Jimbuna]

I like not fair terms and a villain's mind.

[Spiced_Rum]

"I'm not a villain, I've never hurt anyone. I'm just a tawdry character who explodes now and again." - Oliver Reed

[Catfish]

"Gerne der Zeiten gedenk' ich, da alle Glieder gelenkig - bis auf eins. Doch die Zeiten sind vorüber, steif geworden alle Glieder - bis auf eins."

:O:

[Jimbuna]

Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.

[Spiced_Rum]

I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way - Jessica Rabbit :up:

[Sailor Steve]

I guess the old "quote" thread wasn't good enough.

[Spiced_Rum]

But most of these are 'old' quotes. :03: This thread did start off being rather informative and high brow, but alas has awoken the Shakespearian ham within us.

[Sailor Steve]

I can see the Shakespeare, because it ties in. I can see the Dickens, because it was force-fitted into the Shakespeare. Jessica Rabbit?




Okay, now that I got that out of the way, I guess I'll have to quote one of my favorite sources - myself.

"Some people are born stupid. I've had to work hard my whole life to get this way.

And I'm proud of the job I've done."

[Wolferz]

Many people achieve success.
Most only make it to suc.

[Jimbuna]

I dote on his very absence.

[Spiced_Rum]

I can see the Shakespeare, because it ties in. I can see the Dickens, because it was force-fitted into the Shakespeare. Jessica Rabbit?

I did not want to start moving into the world of Jane Austen. Although a couple of her films were OK.:up:

He that fights and runs away, May turn and fight another day; But he that is in battle slain, Will never rise to fight again.

[frau kaleun]

I did not want to start moving into the world of Jane Austen. Although a couple of her films were OK.:up:


I didn't know she made any. Did she produce as well as write and direct? Either way I guess she really was an artist far ahead of her time. :haha: :O:

[Wolferz]

I didn't know she made any. Did she produce as well as write and direct? Either way I guess she really was an artist far ahead of her time. :haha: :O:

Maybe he was thinking of Jane Seymore?:D

[Spiced_Rum]

I didn't know she made any. Did she produce as well as write and direct? Either way I guess she really was an artist far ahead of her time. :haha: :O:

She wrote the screenplay, not sure if she composed the score for the musical; multi talented was Miss Austen. Even had a city in Texas named after her.:03:

[Spiced_Rum]

Maybe he was thinking of Jane Seymore?:D

No, Jayne Seymour married Henry 8 after the Boleyn sister lost her head. Do not think she wrote any books or plays though.

[Jimbuna]

Ye knaa what ah mean leik.

[TarJak]

Ye knaa what ah mean leik.

Cor blimey! 'es gorn all cockaney, aint 'e?

[Jimbuna]

Divvun fret just keep on gannin.

[Wolferz]

Lovely are the woods dark and deep.

[Jimbuna]

A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination.

[vienna]

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[Jimbuna]

“I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best.”

[vienna]

I once took my second ex to see "Lawrence of Arabia" for the first time (for her) and the scene came up where General Allenby is going through Lawrence's file and he reads out loud:

"Undisciplined... unpunctual... untidy. Knowledge of music... knowledge of literature... knowledge of... knowledge of... ... "

My ex turned to me and said, out loud, "Good God, he's talking about you!"...

Got to love a woman who is honest...

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[Jimbuna]

^ :har: