I cant GITMO satisfaction...

[Rockstar]

The ex-U.S. Army employee converted to Islam in 2003, inspired by the faith of the Guantanamo detainees he was charged with watching. Since then, he says he has lost his friends, received violent threats, and been labeled a “race traitor” online.
But he hasn’t gone quietly. The 29-year-old has done his fair share of media and has even signed on for a job as a speaker for the Muslim Legal Fund of America. Now the devout Muslim is racking up frequent flyer miles and touring the country with what he calls the “truth about Gitmo.”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gitmo-guard-converts-islam-demands-release-detainees-article-1.1357918#ixzz2UmsXSCxe


Too bad :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

Good for him. Who is financing is world tour? :shifty:

[Armistead]

Truth about Gitmo, it's better than any federal prison.

If you're in Gitmo, you'll get better medical/dental care than 40% of Americans.
One in five US children go hungry, you'll eat well in Gitmo.
You get cable TV in Gitmo, millions of Americans can't afford it.

They were caught in a time of war, thus they can be held until the war ends....Good luck with that.

[Tribesman]

Truth about Gitmo, it's better than any federal prison.

If you're in Gitmo, you'll get better medical/dental care than 40% of Americans.
One in five US children go hungry, you'll eat well in Gitmo.
You get cable TV in Gitmo, millions of Americans can't afford it.

They were caught in a time of war, thus they can be held until the war ends....Good luck with that.
:doh:
Good luck with paying for it and living with the fallout.

[Armistead]

:doh:
Good luck with paying for it and living with the fallout.

Hey, we can't stop, we need the jobs....

[Tchocky]

Truth about Gitmo, it's better than any federal prison.

If you're in Gitmo, you'll get better medical/dental care than 40% of Americans.
One in five US children go hungry, you'll eat well in Gitmo.
You get cable TV in Gitmo, millions of Americans can't afford it.

They were caught in a time of war, thus they can be held until the war ends....Good luck with that.


Not to shoot for the obvious fact that you know when you're getting out of federl prison, you also don't get tortured there.

Standing up for the kind of people locked up in Guantanamo doesn't sit well with me, but it's hardly the right answer or even close.

[Armistead]

Not to shoot for the obvious fact that you know when you're getting out of federl prison, you also don't get tortured there.

Standing up for the kind of people locked up in Guantanamo doesn't sit well with me, but it's hardly the right answer or even close.

One can argue some torture was done under Bush, but no torture takes place in Gitmo. You go to a federal prison, good chance you're gonna get raped, shanked, live in a stinky cell. I'd rather be water boarded.

Anyway, I have no problem moving them all to our federal prison system.

[Wolferz]

Move them to federal prisons? Pffffttttt!

How about bikini atoll?
At least there, their stay would be very brief and they'll get their virgins at the final stop.

[Platapus]

Good for this guy. It takes a lot of guts to do that in the US.

[HW3]

The truth about GITMO is they are living better there than they could ever hope to live in their home country. They have food, clothing, shelter, medical services, their own copy of the Koran, prayer rug, indoor plumbing, someone to protect them from harm, and they do not have to do anything for any of it. They do not have to worry that they will be asked to strap on a bomb and blow themselves up for Allah. They have it pretty good there I would say, better than the veterans of America.

:subsim:

[Wolferz]

Don't forget the other benefit...
Free water sports.:cool:

[Stealhead]

Not to shoot for the obvious fact that you know when you're getting out of federl prison, you also don't get tortured there.

Standing up for the kind of people locked up in Guantanamo doesn't sit well with me, but it's hardly the right answer or even close.


The problem is that several of the people in there have been deemed to not be a threat to the US (in other words innocent of what ever they where "charged" with) yet they are stuck.Most of the people on this hunger strike are in this situation.

That place is pretty bad I know a man that was a corpsman in the US Navy he served in Iraq for a bit before going to Gitmo.He was very disturbed by the situation and left the Navy as a result of what he saw at Gitmo.He did not convert to Islam or anything like that but what ever it was he did not like it and is afraid to go into any detail.

[Tribesman]

The truth about GITMO is they are living better there than they could ever hope to live in their home country.
The truth about GITMO is that it is a very nasty stain on America.
The fact that people are coming up with nonsensical justifications for its continued existance show how deeply the stain has spread through the fabric of the nation.

[Catfish]

^ Right that.

I am not sure whether there was and is no torture in 'Gitmo', as it is so neatly called.
Ok it seems the military did all to fly the assumed terrorists around the world, to let them be tortured in countries where it is 'allowed', but the pictures and films you see of Guantanamo are not very convincing to say at least.
We also know a lot of the prisoners have nothing to do with terrorist acting, just being at the wrong place at the wrong time - not that they even faced a trial, just 'caught' randomly to push up numbers and have something to present.
The US regards their military bases abroad as extraterritorial areas, being not subject to american legal jurisdiction, it is 'off limits' in any respect. Not only Guantanamo, b.t.w..

And to say that prisoners there have a good life ?!
Seriously :nope:

[Platapus]

A gilded cage is still a cage.

[Catfish]

A gilded cage, especially for the innocent without trial ..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=825&q=Guantanamo+prisoners&oq=Guantanamo+prisoners&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l9.2272.7182.0.8308.20.12.0.8.8. 0.59.536.12.12.0...0.0...1ac.1.15.img.2ENftoYBZLo


All Guantánamo Prisoners Were Subjected to “Pharmacological Waterboarding”:

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/12/02/all-guantanamo-prisoners-were-subjected-to-pharmacological-waterboarding/


" ... These techniques — and the chilling theory of “learned helplessness” that underpinned it, which was designed to destroy the minds of prisoners so thoroughly that they became utterly dependent on their jailers — were intended to “break” prisoners so that they would confess, but it should also have been obvious that they would most effectively secure false confessions, rather than anything resembling the truth. For some involved in the program, this was not obvious — and this blindness to reality remains a problem that afflicts all those who still argue that the use of torture is a valuable tool — but for others the production of false confessions was very useful indeed.

This can be seen in particular in a false confession extracted from Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi (http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/06/18/world-exclusive-new-revelations-about-the-torture-of-ibn-al-shaykh-al-libi/), the head of an Afghan training camp, who was rendered to Egypt, where he was tortured until he confessed that Saddam Hussein had met al-Qaeda representatives to discuss the use of chemical and biological weapons. Al-Libi later retracted his false confession — before he was eventually flown back to Libya, where, last May, he died (http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/05/10/ibn-al-shaykh-al-libi-has-died-in-a-libyan-prison/), allegedly by committing suicide in prison — but this was of no concern to Dick Cheney (http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2008/12/25/the-ten-lies-of-dick-cheney-part-one/), who used his tortured lies to justify the invasion of Iraq (http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/03/22/seven-years-of-war-in-iraq-still-based-on-cheneys-torture-and-lies/) in March 2003. ..."

Better stop this farce.

:hmm2:

[em2nought]

Maybe we should move them to Oklahoma. :D

[Catfish]

^ :rotfl2: