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Betonov
05-22-13, 07:58 AM
Not much of a news. Interesting story at least.

So we were working on a new boat design for an Italian company. We already finished the deck and were preparing to put the supports in the milling process when suddenly the entire project was scrapped.

It appears that italian unions managed to force the company to bring the entire project back home. Why outsource when you have domestic companies.

I seen the italians work. It will cost them 5 times as much for an inferior product that will not meet the deadline. Plus a severance fee, plus they have to pay us for the work and material we already done all the while everything is going to be sent to the landfill because they can't receive the already finished deck. The unions managed to do what they do best, get people laid off. I doubt the company will be able to handle so much stress.

Where do I fit in. Our company will benefit since we won't have any losses apart from loosing a customer and there's still some much work to be done my job is secured.
Apart from having my heart broken after so much work put into it I am on a ''vacation'' until next week, since the next project isn't planned until monday. So 5 days times 8-12 hours times €6 is a revenue loss of €240 to €360 :/\\!! I could go on a vacation to Croatia with that money :/\\!!

So, here's my rant for today :nope:

Sailor Steve
05-22-13, 08:02 AM
So, here's my rant for today :nope:
And a good one it is. :yep: Sometimes life just dumps on you, and all you can do is roll with the punches.

I hope things improve for you.

Herr-Berbunch
05-22-13, 08:56 AM
. . . plus they have to pay us for the work and material we already done all the while everything is going to be sent to the landfill because they can't receive the already finished deck.

Can't you cobble a hull together to go with that deck? Seems a shame to waste it, especially if there is already tooling/jigs created for it, why not make it your own (Seaway's)?

Betonov
05-22-13, 10:23 AM
Don't worry Steve, it's a bump, nothing more.
Not that I lost anything, it's just I could have gotten more :wah:

H-B, it takes months (years even) to develop a ship part to the point a model can be made. In the mean time the deck would crack, the wooden base would rot away and the steel frame would bend.
Plus, the whole thing is copyrightet. That's why I avoid using names while writing this

Betonov
05-22-13, 10:29 AM
This is a smaller version of what we were modeling.

http://www.grandsoleil-france.com/upload/banque-image/historique/50.jpg

Herr-Berbunch
05-22-13, 10:54 AM
In the mean time the deck would crack, the wooden base would rot away and the steel frame would bend.

:hmmm: Major selling points there. :O:

Betonov
05-22-13, 11:08 AM
It's a deck model :O:

It's used to make the moulds, not the actual boat :O:

Stealhead
05-22-13, 11:25 AM
I would hope that your bosses try to get more business that is in country then they dont have to worry about someone cutting a contract in the future.Or they should make the contracts stipulate that the build can not be moved like that.

I'm guessing though that your company must get a lot of contracts from Italians.Most likely because you guys do the job just a well if not better for a lower cost.They must have really leaned on someone to get them to cancel a contract and then move it but still pay your company for the parts and labor already finished.

Betonov
05-22-13, 11:49 AM
Slovenia is too small. In 6 years there (if I recall corectly) we had only 4 domestic orders.

Outsourcing in other countries is what keeps our company going. We do it cheaper, better and faster. That and a world renown in yacht design Japec and Jernej Jakopin hold.

Our own boat sales hardly cover the production itself.

Red October1984
05-22-13, 01:08 PM
Sorry to hear it Betonov.

Hope it gets better. :up:

Jimbuna
05-22-13, 02:00 PM
That's hard to bear Betonov but I'm pleased your employment isn't at risk...better times ahead hopefully.

Betonov
05-22-13, 04:33 PM
Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for our clients.

Paying for a product they're not allowed to receive and begining from scratch on a project already halfway finished. Loosing 4 months of development which means they'll miss spring boat shows...

This might tank the company :nope:

Stealhead
05-22-13, 04:46 PM
So you guys make the pattern for the hulls and then they use the patten/mold that your company designed as template is that right?

I remember you posted a bit in thread a while back showing some of what you do.I wonder if you guys have done for the company around here that makes yachts these are steel hulled aluminum superstructure smaller luxury yachts.The hulls are finished here but they are welded together elsewhere and towed.This company is called Newcastle Marine.

Betonov
05-22-13, 05:11 PM
Yep, we are the first step from plans to boats. Or windmill blades. Or car bumpers.

I don't think we ever contracted for an american firm.
I know we sold boats there, but never developed.

Stealhead
05-22-13, 05:20 PM
Ah so you guys work with more than one type of materiel I am betting.Polyurethane,polystyrene,fiberglass probably some epoxy.I know a little about that I have a friend that makes custom surfboards.

TarJak
05-23-13, 12:45 AM
Ah well Anton, a few beers less during our "vacation" then? Hope you get another big job whilst watchting the Italian's screw up their chance.

Mork_417
05-23-13, 01:28 AM
And a good one it is. :yep: Sometimes life just dumps on you, and all you can do is roll with the punches.

I hope things improve for you.

+1 on Steve's comment.

This is a smaller version of what we were modeling.

http://www.grandsoleil-france.com/upload/banque-image/historique/50.jpg

That's a pretty boat. Sounds like you have a kewl job. :up: