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Skybird
05-15-13, 10:03 AM
U36, a Type-212, has been named today in a ceremony at HDW shipyard. It's the sixth and last boat of this type planned for the German navy.

Only English link so far: http://www.noodls.com/view/7714F47337A5A9A5956E7827F91593F4B6DE887F


Meanwhile, the German defense ministry made fools of itself - at the cost of the tax payer - by having to stop the planned Euro Hawk project. The drone, an earlier US design beefed up with European onboard electronics and recce equipment, would not be certified for unlimited flight operation by European authorities due to lacking documentation, amongst others. One had pushed the project nevertheless and wasted money in hope of that documentation materialising all by itself, out of nowhere, despite the known fact that US defense contractors are extremely hesitent to share technical data and blueprints for their systems that nevertheless would have been needed for the certification process, German media report. The amount of money being lost, varies widely, according to the newspaper report you look into: from 250 million to 1 billion I have seen everything mentioned in the past two days.

This is just one English link. http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130515-49719.html

It is expected that a follow-up order now would be given to EADS/Cassidian.

Herr-Berbunch
05-15-13, 10:30 AM
Meanwhile, the (insert any country) defense ministry made fools of itself - at the cost of the tax payer - by . . .

It's not just your country. I wonder if any country in the world has well written defence contracts for the good of the taxpayer? :hmmm:

nikimcbee
05-15-13, 10:44 AM
So you guys finally get your full u-boot fleet completely built.:doh: Kinda late isn't it? I mean Donitz put the work order in 1935ish :Kaleun_Goofy:.


....but only six boats?:dead: I think Donitz needs a few more boats than that.

Jimbuna
05-15-13, 11:53 AM
So do we need to tap the US for some destroyers? :O:

Herr-Berbunch
05-15-13, 12:14 PM
So do we need to tap the US for some destroyers? :O:

I don't know what you mean. In other news Dover and the Channel are closed with everything diverted to Liverpool. I wonder what that is about?

nikimcbee
05-15-13, 01:29 PM
So do we need to tap the US for some destroyers? :O:

We could probably find a few Clemson Class for you.:hmmm: Actually, you'll probably have to buy them from Russia, as they don't throw anything away. A little duct tape and coat of paint! viola! good as new!


http://theleansubmariner.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/mothballed-3_thumb.jpg?w=335&h=156

Jimbuna
05-15-13, 01:48 PM
Much prefer the Spruance if we have a choice.

nikimcbee
05-15-13, 02:41 PM
Much prefer the Spruance if we have a choice.

take your pick:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bremerton&hl=en&ll=47.553954,-122.64817&spn=0.010702,0.019205&hnear=Bremerton,+Kitsap,+Washington&t=h&z=16

Skybird
05-15-13, 03:55 PM
Much prefer the Spruance if we have a choice.
Okay. We take them for breakfast, or a small snack in-between. Tankers for lunch, and then the merchants for dinner. :O:

Jimbuna
05-15-13, 03:56 PM
LOL :)

Cybermat47
05-15-13, 05:14 PM
Congrats to the Bundesmarine and the German shipyards :salute:

Skybird
05-15-13, 05:23 PM
Pffft - admit it, you are just afraid!

:woot:

nikimcbee
05-15-13, 08:16 PM
You guys did remember to design long range subs this time, right?

em2nought
05-15-13, 10:09 PM
Fleet of six? No wonder you guys can afford to keep bailing out those slacker euro welfare states. :D

Feuer Frei!
05-15-13, 10:37 PM
You guys did remember to design long range subs this time, right?
The 212-class is long-range
It has a range of 8,000 nautical miles (14,800 km, or 9,196 miles).
3 weeks without snorkelling, 12 weeks overall.
More than capable to reach New York (for example). Distance from Berlin to New York is 3978 miles or 3457 nautical mile.
Plenty of juice to make it there and back.

Skybird
05-16-13, 05:29 AM
You guys did remember to design long range subs this time, right?

Is crossing the Atlantic in 2 weeks while all the time being submerged long range enough for you? As demonstrated by a 212 in April this year. Mind you, its no nuclear boat.

If saving the fuel cells and also sailing surfaced, range and operation time is so much longer.

Skybird
05-16-13, 05:31 AM
The 212-class is long-range
It has a range of 8,000 nautical miles (14,800 km, or 9,196 miles).
3 weeks without snorkelling, 12 weeks overall.
More than capable to reach New York (for example). Distance from Berlin to New York is 3978 miles or 3457 nautical mile.
Plenty of juice to make it there and back.
Ah, missed that post.

All data FeuerFrei mentions is the publicly available data, of course.

One can assume that the military hides some "reserves".