.357 SIG

[Bubblehead1980]

Recently purchased a Sig P229 chambered in .357 SIG. I finally got some some range time with it this morning, it was great.Anyone else own this gun/caliber?

[nikimcbee]

Recently purchased a Sig P229 chambered in .357 SIG. I finally got some some range time with it this morning, it was great.Anyone else own this gun/caliber?

I swear my last boss had one. Any photos?

[TLAM Strike]

... Sig P229 chambered in .357 SIG...Anyone else own this gun/caliber?
The US Secret Service. :O:

[Stealhead]

It is a pretty good round if that is what your are asking.It is rapidly becoming the LE round of choice.Sig handguns are some of the most fine tuned and accurate on their part you user still must know how to shoot.

Basically it is a .40 S&W shell necked up to fit a .357 bullet.They wanted to make a round that a semi auto could fire that had power on par with .357 S&W. You do have the IMI Desert Eagle in .357 S&W but that is not a practical firearm.


You better keep that Sig very clean they make good firearms but you do need to maintain them properly.

I have a P226 in 9x19mm.

Here though is my oldest firearm it is a 1919 Colt Police Positive Special. the special stands for .38 special which of course the .357 S&W bullet was developed from.

This pistol was the standard service weapon used by many police officers well into the 1950's.Of course you could also buy one this one was my great grandfathers.It is a little dusty
and I waiting for my brother to come and look at it before I do anything with it.If he wants it I will give it to him.It is not for sale to anyone though sorry.

Saftey first chambers are empty and gun is safe.

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[Oberon]

Colt made some lovely firearms in those days. Excellent pics there Stealhead, thanks for putting them up. Made all the more special by the knowledge that it was your grandfathers. :yep:

[Stealhead]

Colt made some lovely firearms in those days. Excellent pics there Stealhead, thanks for putting them up. Made all the more special by the knowledge that it was your grandfathers. :yep:

At some point I'd like to own an original Mauser c/96 but those are fairly rare in good condition and with the holster/stock.

The Police Positive my great grand father purchased it when he moved to New Orleans in 1919 in those days New Orleans was a pretty rough city.He engineered bridges for the rail road and moved often so he and my great grand mother and great uncle only lived in N.O. for about 8 months.

Later in life he owned a general store and he kept the PP under the counter just in case.It must have been dropped at some point because the front sight is bent slightly to the left not that it matters much given the very basic nature of this pistols sights.

[Schroeder]

It must have been dropped at some point because the front sight is bent slightly to the left not that it matters much given the very basic nature of this pistols sights.
Would that even be classified as a pistol? I thought everything with a drum is called a revolver and pistols are all none "revolving" side-arms.:doh:

*Edit*
Just read on Wikipedia that revolvers are also classified as pistols.
I always thought they were seperate...

[Red October1984]

My dad's got a .357 Taurus Revolver. I never did like revolvers but that's a heck of a caliber. Hard to ignore it when it's fired. :D

[Cybermat47]

Ooh, revolver! :Kaleun_Salivating:

[Jimbuna]

Looks a bit like the first gun I ever fired (.38) many years back at the beginning of my firearms training.

[Stealhead]

My dad's got a .357 Taurus Revolver. I never did like revolvers but that's a heck of a caliber. Hard to ignore it when it's fired. :D

Revolvers are far more reliable than a semi auto few things can go wrong with a revolver.No failure to feed and no failure to extract to deal with and a misfire is solved by simply pulling the trigger again.


Well your dads Taurus is either a .357 or .357 S&W Magnum.Bubblehead is talking about .357 SIG a round designed for use in semi-automatic handguns which would become too bulky if chambered in .357S&W.

The SIG .357 has less powder and is much shorter than the S&W .357 the gas pressure generated by that round would make a handgun to bulky for field use. The SIG round is a excellent compromise and will fit in the same basic frame as a standard semi-auto frame.In fact it has the general performance as .357 Magnum but it a package that a semi auto can handle and carry about the same amount of rounds per magazine as they can .40 caliber which is certainly a competing round.

Military forces tend to prefer 9x19mm even elite units like the S.A.S. one their "favorite" sides arms is the P226 chambered in 9x19mm though sometimes use .40S&W the Navy Seals also use a version of the P226.The reason 9x19mm is used is because it is readily available all over the world the enemy you kill his sidearm has a good chance of using 9x19m and all standard NATO troops will carry 9x19mm.

If the S.A.S the ultimate elite force in the world prefer the P226 that should tell you something.

Yes I said it and yes I am American but the S.A.S. where the first modern elite force.Who Dares Wins.Thye helped form even the elite forces in the US military during WWII and also during the Cold War.Before the P226 their sidearm of choice was the Browning High-Power more than few IRA members met their end facing a Browning HP and a plain clothes S.A.S. trooper the HP was also the sidearm used during the 1980 embassy assault.If they trust a weapon you can bet that you can but do not forget that they are highly skilled in marksmanship and firearm maintenance as well as combat tactics.


.357 S&W Magnum
weight velocity energy
130 gr (8 g) JHP 1,410 ft/s (430 m/s) 574 ft·lbf (778 J)


.357 SIG
125 gr (8 g) Doubletap JHP 1,450 ft/s (440 m/s) 584 ft·lbf (792 J)

[Stealhead]

Looks a bit like the first gun I ever fired (.38) many years back at the beginning of my firearms training.


It may have been very similar during WWII the British Army did use in some numbers a revolver made by Smith&Wesson that was simular in appearance.

The Brit S&W was chambered for British .38 caliber the .38/200 British Service Revolver.I bet that is what you shot.

[Sailor Steve]

Here though is my oldest firearm it is a 1919 Colt Police Positive Special.
Beautiful weapon. However...

the special stands for .38 special which of course the .357 S&W bullet was developed from.
That's not quite correct. Colt's original 'Navy' revolver was called a .36, though actually they are all .357, and it was a muzzle-loader. Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson invented the cartridge revolver and called it a .38 to avoid patent payments. Colt's .38 Special came later. The .357 Magnum was developed from S&W's own bullet, not Colt's.

[Stealhead]

Beautiful weapon. However...


That's not quite correct. Colt's original 'Navy' revolver was called a .36, though actually they are all .357, and it was a muzzle-loader. Horace Smith and Daniel Wesson invented the cartridge revolver and called it a .38 to avoid patent payments. Colt's .38 Special came later. The .357 Magnum was developed from S&W's own bullet, not Colt's.


I realized that after posting it.I understand that the .357 Magnum was developed because many LE officers felt that .38 and .38 special where not powerful enough.

Still a good test for the firearms knowledge of others.

[Sailor Steve]

I had a .22 magnum single-action revolver until the day it fell apart. It was a great little gun.

[Jimbuna]

It may have been very similar during WWII the British Army did use in some numbers a revolver made by Smith&Wesson that was simular in appearance.

The Brit S&W was chambered for British .38 caliber the .38/200 British Service Revolver.I bet that is what you shot.





Yes...I reckon your probably correct. They were never issued on the streets being used usually solely for training purposes.