Das Boot Is NOT a Chick Flick

[Subnuts]

Something I just learned from reading this review on Amazon today:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R5WBK8MGNDWXI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0767802470&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

:haha:


http://www.subsim.com/nucleus/media/1/20130602-dasboot_ugg.jpg

[Red October1984]

:rotfl2: That''s pretty funny.

Amazon has some great reviews....Haha. :har:

[Sailor Steve]

Lucky for her she only saw the 3-hour version.

[Kapt Z]

That was a hilarious review!:har:

[Mork_417]

:har:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I suggest we all respond to her review, and also click 'no - it's not helpful'. :woot:

[Dowly]

and also click 'no - it's not helpful'. :woot:

The first thing I did after I read through it. :yep:

[mookiemookie]

How dare those icky U-boat sailors not clean themselves up and act like gentlemen! :rotfl2:

What a buffoon.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm making an educated guess here that she does not like this movie. :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm making an educated guess here that she does not like this movie. :hmmm:

Well done, collect a prize from Johann on the way out. :woot:

[AVGWarhawk]

Well done, collect a prize from Johann on the way out. :woot:

It better not stink and have bodily fluids dripping off it. Not to mention oily feet and poo. :stare:

[Herr-Berbunch]

It better not stink and have bodily fluids dripping off it. Not to mention oily feet and poo. :stare:

Only if you're a female reviewer from Texas. :D

[frau kaleun]

Read some of her other reviews, she comes off as an ignorant, entitled moron.

She gives the Bette Davis classic Jezebel a high rating but then spends her entire review complaining about the fact that it hasn't been colorized and berating the people responsible, because clearly she deserves to watch it in color the way God intended. She was born with eyes that see in color, dammit, not just black and white, and the injustice of forcing her to watch otherwise good movies in something less than glorious digital technicolor must be stopped.

She gives the Ultimate Edition of the last Harry Potter movie (part 2) 1 star but apparently that's only because it was released exclusively on Blu-Ray and not on DVD, thus making it impossible for her to complete her Ultimate HP collection in her preferred format. She will never, ever, EVER buy a Blu-Ray, and wants everyone to boycott those dirty scheming bastids at Warner Brothers as punishment for the OUTRAGE of trying to force her to do so. She does basically the same thing regarding part 1 of the movie, accusing WB of blatant discrimination against those who still prefer DVDs. I guess it's a good thing she doesn't prefer VHS or she'd bring the entire movie industry to a standstill with her righteous indignation.

She also mentions the unfairness of having to "dump" all her DVDs in order to switch over to Blu-Ray because WB is not releasing her preferred version of the movie on DVD... which makes it sound very much like she has yet to figure out that DVDs can still be played on a Blu-Ray player. So, yeah, I'm gonna have to go with "moron" on this one. Possibly one with WAY too much time on her hands.

[Sailor Steve]

I suggest we all respond to her review, and also click 'no - it's not helpful'. :woot:
Didn't think of that. Went back and did as suggested. Also added a "No" to her additional comment and a "Yes" to the guy who attempted to straighten her out.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Wow just wow. On the other hand I think most of us here could write an equally long review on how Pearl Harbour is a chick flick, and not at all factual and how its the worst war movie in the history of war movies.

[frau kaleun]

Wow just wow. On the other hand I think most of us here could write an equally long review on how Pearl Harbour is a chick flick, and not at all factual and how its the worst war movie in the history of war movies.

True, but this woman also wrote a review of a fur coat she *didn't* buy because despite her giving it (or rather it's picture and description) four stars, it still doesn't live up to her rigorous and exacting standards of design, by which I mean it doesn't look like some coat she says Sue Ellen once wore on Dallas. Then she points that it shouldn't be *that* hard to "correct" the design, in which case it would definitely be something she'd consider buying, as though she expects the manufacturer to do that just to please her and get her money. Oh and then she instructs any furriers out there who DO have the kind of coat she wants to contact her.

She also spends several paragraphs complaining that an item she bought is an Audio CD and not a DVD, despite that fact that the item's page clearly says "Format: Audio CD" right underneath the title. Based on the fact that when she's buying "50 DVDs at a time" she can't be bothered to make sure everything that came up in whatever search she did is actually a DVD and not something else. Then goes on to say that this is clearly part of some nefarious plot on the part of Amazon and/or its sellers to trick her and other people into buying things they don't want.

As I said: ignorant, entitled, moron with way too much time on her hands. :O:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

True, but this woman also wrote a review of a fur coat she *didn't* buy because despite her giving it (or rather it's picture and description) four stars, it still doesn't live up to her rigorous and exacting standards of design, by which I mean it doesn't look like some coat she says Sue Ellen once wore on Dallas. Then she points that it shouldn't be *that* hard to "correct" the design, in which case it would definitely be something she'd consider buying, as though she expects the manufacturer to do that just to please her and get her money. Oh and then she instructs any furriers out there who DO have the kind of coat she wants to contact her.

She also spends several paragraphs complaining that an item she bought is an Audio CD and not a DVD, despite that fact that the item's page clearly says "Format: Audio CD" right underneath the title. Based on the fact that when she's buying "50 DVDs at a time" she can't be bothered to make sure everything that came up in whatever search she did is actually a DVD and not something else. Then goes on to say that this is clearly part of some nefarious plot on the part of Amazon and/or its sellers to trick her and other people into buying things they don't want.

As I said: ignorant, entitled, moron with way too much time on her hands. :O: Indeed I will whole heartedly agree with the fact that she is a moron with too much time. Also having read your previous post that this woman despises the classic black and white films, Lord help us if she happens to stumble upon the early works of Charlie Chaplin!

[frau kaleun]

Indeed I will whole heartedly agree with the fact that she is a moron with too much time. Also having read your previous post that this woman despises the classic black and white films, Lord help us if she happens to stumble upon the early works of Charlie Chaplin!

"I was born with ears that hear, not with two lumps of flesh on my head that serve no useful purpose.* Since the technology exists I simply cannot understand why the people who own the rights to City Lights have not made use of it by recording and dubbing in the dialogue for this movie.

"Don't they realize how many millions of people would be willing to pay to own a 'classic' like this if it weren't for the fact that watching it in its original form forces them to read title cards explaining what's going on, and pay attention to the facial expressions and body language of the actors? How am I supposed to type out ten paragraph diatribes on my laptop about how I would have bought something if only the manufacturer had been considerate enough to consult me before producing it, if I have to look at the TV to keep track of where the story is going?

"Honestly, the people who make these decisions must be idiots, they are losing millions of dollars they could make from people like me who are far better qualified to decide what they should and shouldn't do with their own intellectual and artistic property. Either that or they are a bunch of dirty filthy scumbags who think they can discriminate against people with ears and get away with it. And Amazon is no doubt getting a sizable kickback for helping them do it by continuing to peddle their substandard low-tech wares on this web site."



*Clearly it's the interior of the head in question that does this.

[Herr-Berbunch]

^ :har:

Hang on, Frau - you're not Midge from Texas are you? That was a little too convincing.

@Steve - that was me, I did correct the timing. :oops:

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

^ :har:

Hang on, Frau - you're not Midge from Texas are you? That was a little too convincing.
If it was that would be the worlds best April Fools Joke ever:woot:

[AVGWarhawk]

Quite frankly this woman has too much time on her hands. 146 reviews. A majority nothing short of War and Peace in length. She might find life a bit more enjoyable if she spent less time lambasting movies and cherry soda all day. :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

@Steve - that was me, I did correct the timing. :oops:
Serious? That's nothing to be embarrassed about. Good job! :rock:

[edit] Oh, by "correct the timing" you meant you changed the length. What was if before, 292 minutes? I've seen it officially listed several ways.

[Herr-Berbunch]

No, I had it my head it was a whopping 319 minutes. After half an hour it started to niggle that that didn't seem right. I was right, I was wrong.

How I didn't use any profanity I've no idea!

[frau kaleun]

Hang on, Frau - you're not Midge from Texas are you? That was a little too convincing:oops:

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids and your forum. :O:

[Herr-Berbunch]

And I would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids and your forum. :O:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUbWzkwGfgA :03:

[Herr-Berbunch]

She's responded with another Skybirdesque* wall of text. And said she'd disabled further comments. She was wrong. Again. :D


*No offence but they are usually quite war-and-peace-ish.

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, we can not make her like the movie. Maybe just stating conditions shown in the movie were very similar to reality. Also, she must have some morbid curiosity. She watched the entire movie! The movie moves into bodily fluids in the opening scene were a sailor takes a piss on a car as it is stopped in the road. I would think she would have stopped watching at that point.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Well, we can not make her like the movie. Maybe just stating conditions shown in the movie were very similar to reality. Also, she must have some morbid curiosity. She watched the entire movie! The movie moves into bodily fluids in the opening scene were a sailor takes a piss on a car as it is stopped in the road. I would think she would have stopped watching at that point.

She admits she only leaves a review for very good things, or very bad (in her mind).

Ooh, taking a piss, how inhuman. :timeout:

I might just make it my while to troll around after all her reviews and trash them. :D

[Hinrich Schwab]

I suggest we all respond to her review, and also click 'no - it's not helpful'. :woot:

Already done. Even Bernard would criticize her decision. :har:

[Jimbuna]

Midge? :hmmm:

Texas? :hmm2:


Neal :o

:O:

[Kessner]

This must be the first time Midge has ever seen a REAL movie out side of cartoons....she must live a sheltered protected life I think...:Kaleun_Goofy:

[Rhodes]

Midge? :hmmm:

Texas? :hmm2:


Neal :o

:O:

:har::har::har:

[Platapus]

I wonder how Midge really feels about Das Boot? She kinda waffles about. Just come out and tell us how you really feel.

[Blacklight]

Wow. This girl is hilariously out of touch with reality.
She seems like someone who's going to be funny to watch!

Maybe we could start a topic called "Trolling Midge" and post her reviews? :)

[Cybermat47]

Maybe we could start a topic called "Trolling Midge" and post her reviews? :)

...and then leave negative feedback? I like that idea! :yep:

[Blacklight]

...and then leave negative feedback? I like that idea! :yep:

She could secretly become a star at Subsim!
Maybe we can even post reviews of her reviews!! :D

[nikimcbee]

Also not recommended for those easily offended by smut.



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uoc3UvMYU14/TzQFh7qrItI/AAAAAAAAmTk/ZhwlCkMwbbM/s320/adana-carvey.jpg

[frau kaleun]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uoc3UvMYU14/TzQFh7qrItI/AAAAAAAAmTk/ZhwlCkMwbbM/s320/adana-carvey.jpg

:rotfl2:

[nikimcbee]

Midge? :hmmm:

Texas? :hmm2:


Neal :o

:O:

Just don't sign any paperwork! Run Neal!Run!
Man if Neal hooked up with her, she could be the Yoko Ono of subsim.:o

:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:
Neal! stop fiddling with you computer friends and take me to the scrapbook convention!


...and that was the last time we saw Neal.

[frau kaleun]

Just don't sign any paperwork! Run Neal!Run!
Man if Neal hooked up with here, she could be the Yoko Ono of subsim.:o

:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:
Neal! stop fiddling with you computer friends and take me to the scrapbook convention!


...and that was the last time we saw Neal.

The upside would be that she would probably come here several times a week and "review" him. Not so great for Neal, but I expect it would be a shoo-in for Thread Of The Year. :O:

[nikimcbee]

The upside would be that she would probably come here several times a week and "review" him. Not so great for Neal, but I expect it would be a shoo-in for Thread Of The Year. :O:
Neal would have no time for subsim anymore:wah:, but Neal's scrapbooking website would receive lots of attention.:dead:

Neal, when you're done updating the website, can you clean your toys (his model collection) out of OUR office and put up these great pictures I drew in college of fruit.:dead:

[nikimcbee]

Quick Frau, run! If Midge catches you in the same thread as Neal...:o
Neal will be banned.:o

[ETR3(SS)]

Well, we can not make her like the movie. Maybe just stating conditions shown in the movie were very similar to reality. Done. I just left her a comment since I have first hand experience with the subject matter. :salute:

[Kessner]

Maybe we could start a topic called "Trolling Midge" and post her reviews? :)

:rotfl2:

[Shado]

I think they should fire up a VIIC sub, send on a month or two patrol, under the conditions that they lived under. Of course I don't think the Bdu would appreciate her report when she got back. :/\\!! Maybe she would prefer "Hunt for Red October", much cleaner subs and well dressed actors. She should wake up and smell the month old food and read a little history on what they (all WWII submariners) went though.

Maybe she is Bernard's sister ?? :haha:

[NeonSamurai]

I have to ask... why are we giving this blithering idiot any of our time or consideration?

[nikimcbee]

I have to ask... why are we giving this blithering idiot any of our time or consideration?

That's why.:haha:

Frankly, I'm surprised the Submariner veterans aren't more offended that they were portrayed in such a disgusting manner rather then their actual experience & contributions. But as the movie stated, only 10,000 survived & likely most of those are gone. So there is really no one to defend their real services & experience. This movie made the Germans look like filthy, incompetent clowns. Even realizing the heinous nature of the nazi's in that war, this movie does not accuratey begin to depict their naval servicemen or submariner crew as shown in this movie.



The only way to watch this movie is to bypass side one entirely & watch side 2 with the fast forward on the remote. I would be just repeating myself to say more. This movie is what it is with 2 hours of the grossest behavior imaginable & another hour of painfully slow scenes. Nothing will make it better except extreme editing.

We need to chip in and buy her a copy of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Original-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001XAOLQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1370197608&sr=1-4&keywords=das+boot
:har:

I think "Midge" is really Neal and he's rick-rolling us.:hmm2:

[Skiiwa]

I love U guys!! Made my morning! :har:

[dwassllir]

Drivel, pure drivel from a clueless nitwit. :/\\!!

[Subnuts]

I have to ask... why are we giving this blithering idiot any of our time or consideration?

I thought the internet was created to ridicule people on a global scale. :hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I thought the internet was created to ridicule people on a global scale. :hmmm:

....especialy when they attack our faith.:up:

[tat501]

There's a brilliant episode of "Peep Show" where Mark, on a date with Sophie thinks it would be a good idea to show her Das Boot. She is obviously not interested in the film. About two hours through this becomes apparent to Mark when she suddenly exclaims "Oh! They're on a submarine!"

Not a chick flick...

[desertstriker]

Man my day has just been made by reading this tread.

[zoegas]

I cant believe she even bashed the soundtrack. :down:

[garren]

Most women don't like war movies. Not enough excitement in them for women because they're all into all that mushy romance stuff that makes men want to run to the closest toilet to vomit.

Trust your girlfriend/wife to pick a good movie and she comes back with "Magic Mike"... See if you don't qualify for permanent and total disability from PTSD (recurring nightmares/flashbacks/suicidal ideation) after THAT! And the feminazis say men are sexually objectifying women?! The definition of feminist should be hypocrite.

[Cybermat47]

^^^

Sigh.

EDIT: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/535/113/b26.gif

[Peter Cremer]

She is the kind of selfish, self centered, spoiled brat that is common to the upper classes in America. Her opinion is the only one that counts and she will turn on you like a snake if you don't agree with her. She will complain about things she doesn't like but won't get her hands dirty trying to fix anything. She doesn't mind the Military as long as she doesn't have to associate with any of them. She is what I would call a "throw away". Nobody will miss her when she is gone.:down:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I suppose that "Midge" would prefer the uselessness of U-571 so she can stare at / ogle whatshisface MacaNogahayhee or whatever his name is. :haha:

[desertstriker]

I suppose that "Midge" would prefer the uselessness of U-571 so she can stare at / ogle whatshisface MacaNogahayhee or whatever his name is. :haha:
No she would even give that a bad review and not for the reasons we would. Need to look if she has rated Twilight thats more for her sissy pampered brain. Anything that makes her think is dumb to her:har:

[hawk2495]

All I have to say to her is..... I bet you're happy they don't have smellavision to go with the DVD.......

[Cybermat47]

All I have to say to her is..... I bet you're happy they don't have smellavision to go with the DVD.......

Quick! Send her the smellavision version! She needs to see it!

[jimmyjam25]

This is hilarious! :har:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Front page news - www.subsim.com/index.php :har:

[joea]

Oh man this made my day!!! Reading some of her other reviews, this does not surprise me at all. :woot:

[Platapus]

Wow, people here are getting spun up over one person's opinion.

Personally, this person's opinion is not important enough to me to make me to get upset.

[Freakwave]

Thought it was a joke at first. Now i got to find me the 5 hour version of the film.

[keithf]

I've just given it a 5 Star rating, because there isn't a 6 Star option.:)
My review is called "J'attendrai". Only buffs 'verstehen werden'.

[desertstriker]

Thought it was a joke at first. Now i got to find me the 5 hour version of the film.
http://www.amazon.com/Das-Boot-Original-Uncut-Version/dp/B0001XAOLQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1370449330&sr=8-5&keywords=das+boot

don't forget to use the subsim amazon so we get a percentage of the sale.

[jrf773]

But the unfortunate part of all of this is Midge does think her opinion matters, and no matter how many people tell her she is stupid, she will never realize it. So she will continue forth with the many other denizens who think that Snooki and reality TV are the top end of entertainment. She will continue on thinking her opinion is the high point of culture, her and those of her that bitch because the $4000 fur coat doesn't look like the one that Sue Ellen wore on Dallas 30 year ago. She will continue to live in her delusional world where she thinks that The Real Housewives of Orange county is how the rest of us live. It is sad to think that this is considered the high point of human evolution by some. :Kaleun_Sick:

[J0313]

Wow, people here are getting spun up over one person's opinion.

Personally, this person's opinion is not important enough to me to make me to get upset.


I just spent 17 years of my life protecting a country full of idiots like her. Its not just one persons opinion. Awhole butt load of so called Americans think like that idiot so ya, it gets me worked up. I cant stand what the citizenry in my country are turning into. A bunch of overfed, soft, educated idiots. She probably has a degree but she cant think beyond the end of her nose.

[desertstriker]

But the unfortunate part of all of this is Midge does think her opinion matters, and no matter how many people tell her she is stupid, she will never realize it. So she will continue forth with the many other denizens who think that Snooki and reality TV are the top end of entertainment. She will continue on thinking her opinion is the high point of culture, her and those of her that bitch because the $4000 fur coat doesn't look like the one that Sue Ellen wore on Dallas 30 year ago. She will continue to live in her delusional world where she thinks that The Real Housewives of Orange county is how the rest of us live. It is sad to think that this is considered the high point of human evolution by some. :Kaleun_Sick:
Well evolution is a 2 way street you will have some that go down and some that go up. Though it seems the human race is destined to decline on the evolutionary tree.

[Arnold]

Have you ever laughed so hard that your jaws hurt? It just happened to me, after reading "Midge's" review of one of my favorite movies.
Hilarious!

[Takeda Shingen]

I didn't like Das Boot either. So what?

[Sailor Steve]

There are good movies I don't like, and movies I do like that I admit are bad.

The point here isn't her dislike of the movie. It's the way in which she expressed it.

[Platapus]

But the unfortunate part of all of this is Midge does think her opinion matters, and no matter how many people tell her she is stupid, she will never realize it.

People may be saying the same thing about your opinions too.

No one can make their opinion matter to anyone else unless they consent to it.

I would say that most people, if they bothered to even care, disagree with a lot of my opinions.

The only thing more worthless about an opinion is an opinion about someone else's opinion. :D

Me, I would rather ignore Midge's opinion. She has her opinion, I have mine. Each opinion is worth exactly the same as the other -- squat. :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

I think the worst thing about Midge is the fact she admitted only writing reviews for film she found either very good or very bad.

And she's appropriately named after an annoying little insect.

[Takeda Shingen]

There are good movies I don't like, and movies I do like that I admit are bad.

The point here isn't her dislike of the movie. It's the way in which she expressed it.

Well, that is just it; I would argue that Das Boot is actually a very bad movie dressed up with a degree of historical realism. As a dramatic work, it simply fails due to the fact that it does not achieve the fundamental requirement of attaching the audience to any of the figures within the film. As such, scenes that had the potential to be magnificent and emotionally-charged fell flat.

Werner's offer to deliver Ulmann's letters, The Chief first being made to leave the boat to see his sick wife, and later having that revoked, Johann's freakout followed by his eventual pardon by Der Alte, the desperate struggle at the bottom and the eventual death of a large portion of the crew at the end were meaningless because we simply didn't care about these people. Why should we? Less than a minute of token exposition is given to Ulmann's story in the complete series, and none at all in either the regular film version nor the director's cut. The others receive only a one-line mention; "oh, he has a sick wife", "he's a true-believer", "this guy is a lovable scamp".

It is the same problem with Gladiator. Maximus and Der Alte (along with the rest of the cast) are wooden, two dimensional figures. Their presence is an excuse for stuff to happen, whether it be unrealistic as in Gladiator or relatively realistic as in Das Boot. Regardless of either, the effect is the same. With whom are we supposed to identify? The answer ends up being no one. For Maximus, it is all about getting him into that ring as soon as possible. For Der Alte, it is all about the boat.

In regards to this reviewer, if she didn't like the humor (I didn't like it either) or the gross-out elements, then that is fine. I am not sure that makes her small-minded nor calls for an all out assault on learning, but those are things I have seen as the norm here on SubSim. Sometimes you have to be big enough to let people have opinions that you think are silly. If I had posted every time I saw something small-minded or ignorant around here I wouldn't have time to do anything else.

[Sailor Steve]

Fair points, and nothing I can argue with without seeming defensive about "my" movie. :sunny:

[11Bravo]

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/carrot._V192251235_.gifMidge (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A39SJ6V6QCGC37/ref=cm_cr_rev_detpdp) says:
[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion]


:haha:

[nikimcbee]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/311n6pz3jtL._SL150_.jpg

vs

http://www.thegorgeousdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Hello-I-am-Shelley-Duvall1.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=e-n0lyIV2vB2mM&tbnid=jGh7SxWXjkZt8M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegorgeousdaily.com%2Fhello-im-shelley-duvall%2F&ei=3mG2UcDXIIW4qAHNqIHgDg&bvm=bv.47534661,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNF3nXzrv5xw7uLM5UcZFXApJBE-GA&ust=1370993409119823)

Separated at birth?:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I think the worst thing about Midge is the fact she admitted only writing reviews for film she found either very good or very bad.

And she's appropriately named after an annoying little insect.

This is why she is an expert:


I've tasted many different brands of liquor filled cordials. None ever had the amount of liquor as these. There is practically 1/2 shot in each chocolate. Each a different liquor. They are quite good & quite strong.

Eat sparingly one or two. Each chocolate is practically a full alcoholic beverage without dilution. Don't drive either. You might fail a blood alcohol eating these. It is pure alcohol in the center which pours out like liquid so be careful not to spill when biting into it.


:haha:

I can also tell you from personal knowledge that anyone who worked for Bell Labs in the 60's & 70's all knew that Bell Labs had back engineered Roswell technology. It was common knowledge. We all knew about it.

Also, if you check the Nobel prize listings, you will find they awarded for the "design of the manufacturing process to make Fiber-optics. Only the process to manufacture it." (about 30 years after the fact) but they did not award the discovery of fiber-optics. The same goes for transistors which were the first item Bell labs back engineered.

If you thumb your nose at Corso, you don't deserve to know the truth.

This bra is the worst design ever! Do not waste your money. I'm glad I only bought one. After wearing this one time for 3 hours, I will never wear it again. It will be in the charity donation bag.


The quotable Midge. Now available at Amazon.

[Sharkey]

[/QUOTE]In regards to this reviewer, if she didn't like the humor (I didn't like it either) or the gross-out elements, then that is fine. I am not sure that makes her small-minded nor calls for an all out assault on learning, but those are things I have seen as the norm here on SubSim. Sometimes you have to be big enough to let people have opinions that you think are silly. If I had posted every time I saw something small-minded or ignorant around here I wouldn't have time to do anything else.[/QUOTE]

Well said Sir. :up::salute:

[TarJak]

I suggest we all respond to her review, and also click 'no - it's not helpful'. :woot:

Done.:salute:

[L_DOG]

She was dam sure Misinformed about reality..
Anyhow id Love to see the Movie done just like that but only an US Navy sub and crew. I can only imagine the antics that went on.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm surprised Hollywood hasn't tried to beat it, but I'm also glad they haven't tried as they don't usually turn out very good.

[Arnold]

In defense of one of my favorite movies, Das Boot does not glorify war, rather it is anti-war, in the portrayal of the futile loss of life on both sides. Since I played football in High School, my service in the Coast Guard and service as a Deputy Sheriff for twenty years, I've enjoyed teamwork and working outdoors. Das Boot reminds me of the esprit de corps, shared by men and women, world-wide, who serve their countries in armed forces.

[AndreasT]

"Then we have a redheaded actor with constant filthy, idiotic comments, obviously British descent who clearly belongs on Monty Python."

This made me laugh.

[Typ-XXI]

Well, that is just it; I would argue that Das Boot is actually a very bad movie dressed up with a degree of historical realism. As a dramatic work, it simply fails due to the fact that it does not achieve the fundamental requirement of attaching the audience to any of the figures within the film. As such, scenes that had the potential to be magnificent and emotionally-charged fell flat.
You have to take into consideration that the book author really influenced the work of the film crew. He successfully prevented that the story got sold to hollywood and while producing the film he also prevented the producers from changing the story too much. He wanted it to be exactly like he witnessed it, not how it would have the biggest success.
In the end the author was disappointed by the film because the producers did make some changes to the story.

[fastbikkel]

A review is never objective, always subjective.

This article however is the same reason why "comedy" movies never get a high rating. Because people compare them to non-comedy.
In fact, a comedy can be a 8/10 easily.

In this case of the woman reviewing das boot, she has a fixed idea on how that kind of movie should look. I was glad she was disappointed.

[fastbikkel]

Well, that is just it; I would argue that Das Boot is actually a very bad movie dressed up with a degree of historical realism.


The word "movie" comes from "moving picture".

So das boot is a movie for sure. Good or bad is determined on the content, in this case i feel it is good.

What people do wrong is taking the "classic" idea of a movie, romance, violence, dialogue and such.
A movie does not always have to have "love" in it to make it good movie. Although hollywood will likely disagree.

[Drakken]

Most women don't like war movies. Not enough excitement in them for women because they're all into all that mushy romance stuff that makes men want to run to the closest toilet to vomit.

Trust your girlfriend/wife to pick a good movie and she comes back with "Magic Mike"... See if you don't qualify for permanent and total disability from PTSD (recurring nightmares/flashbacks/suicidal ideation) after THAT! And the feminazis say men are sexually objectifying women?! The definition of feminist should be hypocrite.

Not true.

My GF and I watched the Das Boot miniseries version when we started dating, the whole 5-hours version I might add. She was thrilled by it, and she far from a history buff. Now when she hears a ping in any movie she immediately remembers how tense was Das Boot, and that it was real life story. She understood very well the drama of these poor sods and the tension of living in such squalor, where you could drown and die at each depth charge.


Well, that is just it; I would argue that Das Boot is actually a very bad movie [snip]

Wait, wait, wait. What the Hell?


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[Quasimodo]

This lady has posted 150 reviews on Amazon. Rarely can you find one that's positive. She seems to have a complaint about everything.

I pity her husband/boyfriend. I'd probably rush to the recruiter and sign up for sub duty right away just to get away from her.

:)

[Platapus]

It is interesting at how much power and influence Midge has over some members of this forum. Some of you guys are FOCUSED on her. Wow.

I am pretty sure there are millions of people out there who also don't like Das Boot and millions more that have no desire to ever see it.

Other than political figures, I don't think we have had such an "outsider" like Midge have so much effect over people here. :haha:

And now we are starting ad hominem attacks against someone we don't know, who just exercised her right to post an opinion on a website.

Yikes! Why allow this woman to be that important to you? :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

Because our lives are just as empty as hers and we don't have anything else to talk about. Don't you understand interwebseese?

[Pisces]

I just noticed this thread.

So you all are saying Operation Petticoat wasn't the real thing back then? I've got to back up Midge on this. As it seems much more likely than Das Boot. Though I did find it a bit too much on the pornographic side though.

[desertstriker]

Though I did find it a bit too much on the pornographic side though.
pornographic really? where at all is it pornographic?

[Subnuts]

"FC's" review of Shattered Sword borders on being as bad as Midge's review of Das Boot. I've read the book three times and literally nothing in his review is true. It's the kind of over-the-top hyperbole that makes so many contrarian Amazon reviews so hilarious and frustrating to read.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R35HHAAD63AGWM/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1574889249&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=

[Aktungbby]

'WAR is HELL'- W.T. Sherman; 'They don't call 'em pigboats for nuthin'-Tony Curtis...nuff said, great flick.:Kaleun_Party:

[darrincates]

Wife and I just finished the long mini series version .. SO much better with all the scenes! ... Wife enjoyed it too .... That girls review is horrific and couldn't be further from the truth!

[Jimbuna]

Wife and I just finished the long mini series version .. SO much better with all the scenes! ... Wife enjoyed it too .... That girls review is horrific and couldn't be further from the truth!

I doubt your alone in that assumption.

[JackhammerJohn]

Would anyone hate me if I was do a little bragging? I worked on the movie See Arnold Run as an extra for nine days and got a lot of scenes (in the background) with Jurgen Prochnow!

At times he looked right me. It was very cool to actually be a few feet from him. As proof, I am in the lower left of the screen in this shot looking up at him. Just thought I would share.

Bragging time over. Take care.

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[Sailor Steve]

At times he looked right me.
Maybe you were creeping him out. :O:

As proof...
But how do we know that's really you? :06:

[JackhammerJohn]

Maybe you were creeping him out. :O:

As proof...
But how do we know that's really you? :06:[/QUOTE]

LOL, because I donated to SUBSIM! LOL!

Also, you can compare my face to this pic with Ray Bradbury after performing in Dandelion Wine. hehehe

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[Sailor Steve]

But...but...but...we still don't know that's you. I'm gonna need to see a photo ID. And a proof-of-purchase seal. And your SS number. And a... :O:
:rotfl2:

Actually that's pretty cool. You and Ray Bradbury. In fact that's very very cool! :rock:

[TorpX]

I just stumbled onto Midge's review. I really can't be angry or upset; it seemed pretty funny to me. Come on Midge, don't sugar coat it, tell us what you really think! :rotfl2: I'm guessing that her idea of a good war movie is more along the lines of The Sound of Music.

I'd kind of like to see her review of Texas Chainsaw Massacre or one of the Night of the Living Dead movies.

[JackhammerJohn]

But...but...but...we still don't know that's you. I'm gonna need to see a photo ID. And a proof-of-purchase seal. And your SS number. And a... :O:
:rotfl2:

Actually that's pretty cool. You and Ray Bradbury. In fact that's very very cool! :rock:
Thank you, Steve. It was really cool. I am so glad to have the memory.

[Miggy4000]

:hmm2: Mmmmmm, yes. Well that was certainly a spewing up of opinions there, much like her description of the actors in the movie. The thing that gets me though is that some think all women regard Das Boot in that way. I most certainly don't. To me at least, it's one of the most honest war movies ever made.

I recall, when it was first broadcast on TV here in the UK, I sat and watched it with an elderly friend of mine (now sadly passed away) who served as a First Officer on a MTB during the war. He said that persuasive sense of fear that the movie portrayed was very real indeed and as for their behaviour outside of combat, that was a way that fear was managed. Sailors (no matter what flag they served under) behaved in pretty much the same way in how they dealt with the pressures combat put them under, mainly a powerful sense of relief that they survived and sometimes that would encourage such rowdy behaviour. Either that or they would curl up into a ball and try and shut the rest of the world out. In either case, it shows just how fragile human beings really are.

This is something the reviewer doesn't understand, luckily for her. :03:

[Pisces]

pornographic really? where at all is it pornographic?Hint: sarcasm. ;)

[Sailor Steve]

The thing that gets me though is that some think all women regard Das Boot in that way. I most certainly don't. To me at least, it's one of the most honest war movies ever made.
Thanks for that insight. Other female members have expressed similar sentiment. The women I know who dislike the movie do so for the same reasons as the men I know: It's boring, can't get into the characters, there's no variation or romance, it's nothing but one long set-piece; you know, the same reasons the rest of us like it.

I think the reason we're having so much fun with Midge is that her review was so singularly hateful. It really stands out, even among others who didn't like it.

[Ardaeshir]

Well it was pretty one-sided to the point of me thinking she may be a "revier-for-hire" person given that it seems she only reviews movies and a few specific unrelated products and always seems to give them 1 or 5 stars, basiclaly nothing in between.

However I seen her respond to one of the comments in a pretty long and detailed way that no pay-per-review person would ever bother with. Let me quote a part of that:

I was raised on military bases in a military family so I know something of their behavior up through the 70's & have managed a veterans group for 15 years. This may be acceptable behavior from the 80's thru current day service personnel but prior to the 60's, such total debauchery would only have been tolerated for Neptunous Rex or shore leave. Certainly not on board & even questionable that the shore patrol would even tolerate it off base. So the implication that 2 hours of disgusting primal behavior was an accurate depiction of their normal discipline just doesn't pass muster as valid. Any reviewer under 50 would not have any idea how these crews conducted themselves at that time. Present day voluntary military personnel & demeanor are completely different from the WW's, Korea or VN draft era troops. There is no comparison between the 2. But even if it were, it was unnecessary to subject the audience to 2 hours of retched, despicable behavior. 10 minutes would have sufficed to make the point. No excuse for it.


I don;t agree with her opinion of the film, but I do get a sese where's she's coming from and why she might not have liked the film.

Generally my experience with german culture is that you do get a lot more "ass-and-fart" type of humor there than what you see in slavic cultures and I assume the same thing can be said for american 60s and 70s servicemen.

In general sailors in Poland, like most servicemen actually, often come from poor urban backgrounds and don't mince words. Humor on board could often be vicious and at times lewd. Still, the amount of bodily-related jokes and especially the gay innuendo references would feel very out of place in the Polish navy of the 80s and 90s.

[Sailor Steve]

Interesting that you should bring that up. I have the five-hour version, and even there the total "debauchery" doesn't add up to fifteen minutes. Even the infamous Nightclub scene only has about five minutes of that. "Two hours of wretched, despicable behavior" is about as far from the truth of that movie as you can get. Most of it is people talking, and not about "Subject number one".

As for "onboard", I guess she was never in the navy. I was one of the Vietnam-era sailors in 1970, and knew many older men who had been in the war. Trust me on this - Das Boot is mild in that department. Any time someone picked up a new dirty joke he didn't just share it with his friends, but with everyone who would listen. For the most part there isn't much else for an off-duty sailor to do.

[Ardaeshir]

Any time someone picked up a new dirty joke he didn't just share it with his friends, but with everyone who would listen. For the most part there isn't much else for an off-duty sailor to do.

I agree on the dirty jokes part (especially given the usual age of enlisted men), though I disagree about the "not much to do" during off-duty part (unless maybe its some foreign exotic port where nobody speaks any understanable language). Most of the time (even in said exotic ports) our sailors, both navy, merchant marine and long-range oceanic fishing crews, would find a ton of things to do. I rmemeber the visit the ORP Warszawa had in Stockholm... some people say Stockholm was never the same again :03:

[Sailor Steve]

When I said "off-duty" I was referring to "off-duty while at sea" as in "not on watch". Of course we found plenty to do in port, like anything that would get us away from the ship for a few hours. It's funny, though - we would "swear like sailors", as the saying goes, but the unwritten rule was never in front of women or children. Or any civilians, for that matter. It just wasn't done. These days of course the women and children use language that would "make a sailor blush", and often does.

Times change.

[Quasimodo]

Judging by the reviews of most of the movies she watched she should stick to "Bambi".

:smug:

[Sailor Steve]

Sudden necro after five months? :-?

[Cybermat47]

Sudden necro after five months? :-?

:woot:

Now we can all talk about what a terrible person she is while listening to The Dark Knight Returns Part II OST :woot:

[Ishtarius]

:har:
I will say she got some issues.