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RustySubmarine
03-28-13, 12:11 PM
I have quite a few versions of the film "Das Boot" both in English and German with subtitles. But the best one in my opinion is the Digitally Re-mastered , Original Uncut Version of the 6 part Mini Series presented as One complete feature length uncut version. running time 4hrs 48 mins. (English speaking). Also got the same version, German speaking with English subtitles, which can be turned off. I play this sometimes, but not understanding German, I can't pick up most of the dialogue, but it seems more realistic in one sense.
I watch this film about once every three months, which I never seem to tire of. It sparks up some enthusiasm to playing SH3. Must have seen it over 100 times since it's release. Best ever Submarine film ever made. Might watch it again tonight, yes I think I will!
Just bought the blu ray version.... Now have three versions and a version on my hard drive....how sad is that?
Anyway, the blu ray is cool
RustySubmarine
03-28-13, 12:18 PM
I too have got the Blue Ray version as well, got this one last year and it is better than the standard version. :)
DesertGhost
03-28-13, 12:22 PM
I ordered the (Original) Uncut Version a few days ago. Still waiting for it to arrive but can't wait to see this awesome movie again! :arrgh!:
ninja turtle
03-28-13, 02:52 PM
Hey guys
I have "Das Boot" on video (what's a video? :)) and was contemplating replacing it for a DVD so this was a useful thread. Is a Blu Ray version worth the extra pennies as it's pre-Blu Ray?
RustySubmarine
03-28-13, 07:24 PM
The Blue Ray version is the Directors Cut version and doesn't cover the whole feature length of the Mini Series Version. which is the best version of all. As far as quality is concerned the Blue Ray version is not that much better. Take my advice and go for the Full Length Min Series. You can order it from Amazon for about £8 now I think. Just watched it again tonight and I enjoyed it just as much as I have always done. This film must rate as one of the best war films ever made.
ninja turtle
03-28-13, 07:37 PM
The Blue Ray version is the Directors Cut version and doesn't cover the whole feature length of the Mini Series Vetvrsion. which is the best version of all. As far as quality is concerned the Blue Ray version is not that much better. Take my advice and go for the Full Length Min Series. You can order it from Amazon for about £8 now I think. Just watched it again tonight and I enjoyed it just as much as I have always done. This film must rate as one of the best war films ever made.
I'll go by your recommendation :yep:
:yeah:
Sailor Steve
03-28-13, 07:53 PM
Yes, the nearly-five-hour "Uncut" version is the one to see. I have all three versions and that's the only one I ever watch.
ninja turtle
03-28-13, 08:05 PM
I'm just looking on amazon and I'm a bit confused which version is the one to watch as there are two uncut mini series versions :hmm2:
Otto Fuhrmann
03-28-13, 09:12 PM
I love my Blue-ray version. Worth every penny!
Sailor Steve
03-28-13, 09:50 PM
I'm just looking on amazon and I'm a bit confused which version is the one to watch as there are two uncut mini series versions :hmm2:
I just spent several minutes switching back and forth, and I can't see any difference between the two except the price. If you don't have Amazon Prime I'd go for a used copy in Very Good shape.
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 03:29 AM
I just spent several minutes switching back and forth, and I can't see any difference between the two except the price. If you don't have Amazon Prime I'd go for a used copy in Very Good shape.
Good morning Sailor Steve (not sure what time it is where you are :))
It was 1.30am when I put on my last post; it's now 8.00am uk time so I fell asleep but I'm now awake with the dawn chorus (well sea gulls :wah:)
Anyway I'll purchase the less in price version. I'll order it now. Something to watch to fill my time whilst travelling with work.
Good hunting guys :salute:
:subsim:
bertieck476
03-29-13, 04:26 AM
Im not a techy at all but I believe you will not get the full benefit of picture quality from blu-ray unless you are viewing it on a full HD tv.
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 04:44 AM
Im not a techy at all but I believe you will not get the full benefit of picture quality from blu-ray unless you are viewing it on a full HD tv.
That is true. I do have a HD TV and Blu Ray DVD player but I'll be watching the series on a portable player :up:
Sailor Steve
03-29-13, 09:06 AM
Good morning Sailor Steve (not sure what time it is where you are :))
I'm seven hours behind you, so if it's 08:00 where you are it's 01:00 in my town, which is Salt Lake City, in the Wasatch Mountans of Utah, USA.
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 09:26 AM
I'm seven hours behind you, so if it's 08:00 where you are it's 01:00 in my town, which is Salt Lake City, in the Wasatch Mountans of Utah, USA.
Ah I see. Well good morning to you now, then :sunny: It's about 8.20 as I write this reply where you are now according to 24Timezones.com. Just reading on the internet about Utah :up: Looks pretty impressive
Anyway 'Das Boot' ordered :salute:
Kelly621
03-29-13, 09:55 AM
Ninja Turtle, you will enjoy the full four and half hour version....you will get to know the characters better.
Ah...time zones...My wife and I lived in Dunoon, Scotland for three years. My mother in law had a bit of a problem with the time difference between the US and Scotland. For the first few months she would wake us up at one in the morning to "chat". Really miss bombing around the single lane back roads in the highlands with our beat up old Mini Cooper:)
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 10:18 AM
Ninja Turtle, you will enjoy the full four and half hour version....you will get to know the characters better.
Looking forward to it :up:
Ah...time zones...My wife and I lived in Dunoon, Scotland for three years. My mother in law had a bit of a problem with the time difference between the US and Scotland. For the first few months she would wake us up at one in the morning to "chat".
:rotfl2:
Really miss bombing around the single lane back roads in the highlands with our beat up old Mini Cooper:)
Cool :cool:
Yoshiki
03-29-13, 10:35 AM
The Uncut version is best IMHO. I believe it's 4½ hours or something
like that.
Sure: With that length it is not exactly 'action-packed'...
If you are looking for more action and less athmosphere -
then the theatrical version is of course 'better'.
But I believe that most SUBSIM'ers will appreciate the
uncut version - because they know the typical 'boredom'
interrupted by hectic action all too well.
Of course - without time-compression the simulation
would be too tedious - but I myself do not use
it as much as in the beginning.
Also you get to know the characters much better.
the TV mini series that becomes the full length nearly five hours worth - is without question THE best version, because it resembles as much as possible the book by Lothar-Gunther Bucheim which in its self is a classic. and the tv mini series that becomes the full length nearly five hours worth of film is what he wanted any way - he was looking for about six hours...
90% of the time nothing happens.
its the 10% that decides whether you live or die.
happy viewing, you are in for a real treat if you've never seen the full length before.
(I prefer it with English subtitles - somehow their own language adds another level of realism.)
as an afterthought, Wolfgang Petersen who directs the film - to keep the realism thing going, travelled to different parts of Germany looking for actors who had the accents for the different crew personnel who came from these regions, so as to keep as much as possible to the book and the realism. Bucheim was not happy with the finished product and accused Petersen of turning War in to Hollywood - glamourising a miserable and deadly profession.
Petersen defended this by saying he had to get the German people in to see it - then, they could decide what they thought. the German people were not ready to confront their past, so he had to ease them in a little with a bit of poetic license. it became the highest grossing film in German history and the most expensive to make......and that last fact may still stand?
ps. if I have miss fired on information, please correct me:yep:
RustySubmarine
03-29-13, 02:51 PM
Well since I started this thread, it has surely had a lot of responses. I watched the full length Mini Series again last night and it's whipped up my passion for SH3.
I noticed on some of the scree shots of SH3, there are quite a few different interface screens. The one I like the most, is the one showing the officers bar on the far right of the screen. Does anyone know which mod has this interface? It looks better than the one I have which is the GWX version, with the officer icons on the bottom left of the screen.
Yoshiki
03-29-13, 03:15 PM
90% of the time nothing happens.
its the 10% that decides whether you live or die.
happy viewing, you are in for a real treat if you've never seen the full length before.
(I prefer it with English subtitles - somehow their own language adds another level of realism.)
Definitely! :up: I'm glad that I speak German- and can play SH3GWX all
in German then you get audioclips from 'Das Boot'.
Best example: 'Jawohl Jungs wir haben ihn... [great cheering]...
Leise!' - that's the audioclip that plays when a torpedo hit its
target.
Bucheim was not happy with the finished product and accused Petersen of turning War in to Hollywood - glamourising a miserable and deadly profession.
Well - with all respect to the late Mr. Buchheim - 'Das Boot' is
definitely NOT Hollywood...
/Yoshi
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 04:56 PM
I prefer it with English subtitles - somehow their own language adds another level of realism
I'll definitely be watching it in German with English subtitles. I'm pretty sure that when it was on TV when I was a little kid watching it with my parents (although I have a vivid memory shot of my dad sitting there watching whilst my mum quietly sat knitting a nice jumper for someone) it had subtitles and remember having to wait till the following week for the next episode. Gripping stuff. Those were the days.
Well since I started this thread, it has surely had a lot of responses. I watched the full length Mini Series again last night and it's whipped up my passion for SH3.
It certainly helped with my decision to purchase again :yeah:
I noticed on some of the screen shots of SH3, there are quite a few different interface screens. The one I like the most, is the one showing the officers bar on the far right of the screen. Does anyone know which mod has this interface? It looks better than the one I have which is the GWX version, with the officer icons on the bottom left of the screen.
Try this link Geoff:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=159780
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 05:01 PM
Found these in the downloads section:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3115
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3934
Sailor Steve
03-29-13, 06:22 PM
Bucheim was not happy with the finished product and accused Petersen of turning War in to Hollywood - glamourising a miserable and deadly profession.
And more than one u-boatman said similar bad things about Buchheim's book, so he really didn't have that high of a perch to preach from. Also Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, the real 'Alte' of U-96 and Hans-Joachim Krug, 1WO of U-219, served as technical advisors on the movie.
Yes, the movie takes certain liberties. So does the book. The movie in it's full 293 minutes can be hard to sit through. The book can be hard to read. Both are worth it. I just wish the book's two sequels were available in English.
Subsim.com book review:
http://www.subsim.com/books/dasboot.htm
RustySubmarine
03-29-13, 07:33 PM
Already got those Glenn. It's the full GUI that I am after, where the officers are shown on the right instead of the left of the interface screen. I think it might be Hitmans GUI or OLC_GUI_127
ninja turtle
03-29-13, 07:43 PM
Ah sorry I can't help. My icons now are department images on the right side. I did have face images (not stock) but can't remember what mod they came from. However I might just use the links I suggested. They look fairly good :yep:
I'll be changing and improving a few mods in my list next time I'm docked
Kelly621
03-29-13, 08:26 PM
RustySubmarine posted:
It's the full GUI that I am after, where the officers are shown on the right instead of the left of the interface screen. I think it might be Hitmans GUI or OLC_GUI_127
If I remember correctly it is OLC.....
MaGui has the officers on the right hand side too...although not the Das Boot ones but they can be added quite easily
RustySubmarine
03-30-13, 08:57 AM
RustySubmarine posted:
If I remember correctly it is OLC.....
Yes you are right, this is the one I was after. Much better than the Stock/GWX interface. Now downloaded and installed. Easier to manage as well with more information displayed. Still shows the Das Boot Officer Icons as well, that I installed previously.
Thank's Kelly
Sailor Steve
03-30-13, 09:15 AM
Much better than the Stock/GWX interface.
For you, maybe. I use FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling 6-Dials' mod, which removes the interface entirely. Every single item on the screen becomes a slideout, so I don't have to see anything at all unless I need it. To me that's much more realistic.:sunny:
ninja turtle
03-30-13, 09:53 AM
For you, maybe. I use FLB_Sales's 'Simfeeling 6-Dials' mod, which removes the interface entirely. Every single item on the screen becomes a slideout, so I don't have to see anything at all unless I need it. To me that's much more realistic.:sunny:
Ooh that's sounds like a good mod I'm going to look into. I've recently been trying to take the interface off using 'del' key, making commands with the keyboard only putting it back on when I need it
Sailor Steve
03-30-13, 01:15 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1401974&postcount=5
Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.
Reinhard Hardegen
03-30-13, 01:37 PM
Yes, the nearly-five-hour "Uncut" version is the one to see. I have all three versions and that's the only one I ever watch.
Same here, I like to watch it in German with English subtitles.
RustySubmarine
03-30-13, 02:15 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1401974&postcount=5
Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.
No I'm sticking with the OLC GUI, straight forward install with JSGME, no files or scripts to alter. This is one reason I came back to SH3 from SH5, as the best GUI mods need lots of self tweaking, alright if you know what you are doing, but not if you don't. Any Mod that needs files editing before it works, I try to avoid. If SH5, had a decent full blown super mod like GWX Gold, then it would make things easier for those not familiar with editing and changes files. This is sometimes what put's newbies off sticking with these sims. They want something better than stock, but not something that needs a computer wizard, to get everything working.
I'll get of my soap box now and enjoy SH3, with my new GUI and what mods I have also installed to make it enjoyable for me, at least.
guntherprien
03-30-13, 02:35 PM
And more than one u-boatman said similar bad things about Buchheim's book, so he really didn't have that high of a perch to preach from.
But Buchheim served on a U-Boat as an official naval correspondent,as well as a lieutenant on minesweepers and destroyers during WW2,I think this more than qualifies him to "preach" from a perch.
Sailor Steve
03-30-13, 02:59 PM
But Buchheim served on a U-Boat as an official naval correspondent,as well as a lieutenant on minesweepers and destroyers during WW2,I think this more than qualifies him to "preach" from a perch.
That's my point. He was not a "real" u-boat sailor, and some (not all) of the men who were there said he got it wrong. Don't mistake me; I love the movie and I love the book. I was only pointing out that some of the criticisms he levelled at the movie were also levelled at his book by some of those he served with.
ninja turtle
03-31-13, 05:27 AM
Be warned, though - it requires some work. You have to edit the menu.ini yourself. It's and easy copy-and-paste, but it takes patience.
No I'm sticking with the OLC GUI, straight forward install with JSGME, no files or scripts to alter. This is one reason I came back to SH3 from SH5, as the best GUI mods need lots of self tweaking, alright if you know what you are doing, but not if you don't. Any Mod that needs files editing before it works, I try to avoid.
Hi Sailor Steve
Thanks for the heads-up. I checked out the mod site just before reading your reply and it does look pretty awesome. I agree with RustySubmarine as I'm not very good at mods that involve changing menus. I started installing mods in SH5 but spent most of my time changing and finding mods rather than actually sinking ships :88)
I'm thinking SH3 might be my limit for realism and immersion :ping:
:salute:
RustySubmarine
03-31-13, 05:54 AM
Try the OLC Interface Glenn, if you haven't tried this before, apart from the one Sailor Steve is on about, it must be the next best. I have been using it over the last few days and it's pretty good. I think I will be sticking with this one. On my third patrol atm, found a four ship convoy in the Irish Sea, just of Holyhead, (decided to take this route for a change, round the north coast of Ireland). two large tankers, a large freighter and a tramp steamer (no escorts) sunk all four over a period of one hour, had to give chase for the second tanker, but she got a fish in her belly, from my stern tube. Boy what an explosion, must have ruptured one of her fuel tanks. She listed to port soon after hitting her and then one massive explosion, before sinking beneath the waves. Had to crash dive, soon after as I was attacked by a couple of Hurricanes, just off the Bristol Channel, but sustained no damage and lay low until dusk, resurfaced just of the southern Irish coast and proceeded to my patrol area grid Am67, after deciding to stick to my first plotted route from Lorient.
ninja turtle
03-31-13, 07:51 AM
Try the OLC Interface Glenn, if you haven't tried this before, apart from the one Sailor Steve is on about, it must be the next best. I have been using it over the last few days and it's pretty good. I think I will be sticking with this one.
Thanks for the direction, Geoff. I'm sure I've used OLC before but can't double check till I'm back down south (oh how I miss my gaming PC). I'm presently using MGui Final version which I like. Can you list your mod soup either here or PM me. Sounds like you have some good combinations :up:
On my third patrol atm, found a four ship convoy in the Irish Sea, just of Holyhead, (decided to take this route for a change, round the north coast of Ireland). two large tankers, a large freighter and a tramp steamer (no escorts) sunk all four over a period of one hour, had to give chase for the second tanker, but she got a fish in her belly, from my stern tube. Boy what an explosion, must have ruptured one of her fuel tanks. She listed to port soon after hitting her and then one massive explosion, before sinking beneath the waves. Had to crash dive, soon after as I was attacked by a couple of Hurricanes, just off the Bristol Channel, but sustained no damage and lay low until dusk, resurfaced just of the southern Irish coast and proceeded to my patrol area grid Am67, after deciding to stick to my first plotted route from Lorient.
I'm still currently finding lone merchants (which is nice) or sailing into harbours at night and sinking anchored targets if it's worth the danger of being damaged. Mind you I'm still in November '39. I'm on my way back to Kiel :salute:
RustySubmarine
03-31-13, 09:20 AM
Done a bit of mooching around harbours myself. Have you tried Scapa! Use the far north passage, and start your entry as night falls, you can sneak in so far on the surface, but avoid nights when the moon is out. Be careful as you enter the main area at the end of the channel, as there are some blockade ships, you need to keep mid channel. As soon as you clear these, submerge to periscope depth and rig for silent running. There are a few Destroyers patrolling, but these will anchor around 11pm - midnight and you can pick one of these off with a fish from your stern tube on your way out. There is usually a couple of Capital ships anchored and a few Merchants for the picking, but take the BBs, Cruisers or AC (if you are lucky) I sunk HMS Glorious with HMS Renown when I was there. Keep silent running on all the time, until you clear the main area and enter the channel you came in at. you can clear the blockade ships submerged, but keep mid channel or you will run aground if to close to shore (there are no nets or mines in the channel (or there wasn't in early 1940 when I sneaked in) You should get out of the northern channel by about 6am, but be careful, keep submerged as you will have two or three destroyers hunting you until you can shake them off. Go deep when in deeper water and just sit it out until they call it a day. Then you can surface when all is clear. Worked ok for me! :salute:
Gustav Schiebert
03-31-13, 11:14 AM
I bought the uncut version off Amazon recently. I'm English but learning German, so I like to listen with the German audio and sometimes with the English subs to see how much I can pick up - although I've seen it so many times I remember most of the dialogue before it comes up.
Interestingly, the DVD also has an English audio track with is much more a direct translation of the German. The 'stock' English audio from the original release (the one that's with the full film on YouTube) is very toned down in terms of the obscenity the sailors talk about (ie "do you have any hairs up your arse" becomes "do you have any hairs up your nose") - ostensibly to get it past the censors for the US release. Mine seems to have all these bits directly translated into English, obscenity and all.
I'm pretty sure the actors did two English versions. (Got to 34:20 in the Youtube full film) In the scene where the Old Man gets the signal on the convoy, and the 1WO keeps pestering him to read it I've heard Hubertus Bengsch (1WO) read out the convoy square. In my DVD version he mispronounces 22 as 'Two'ty Two', instead of 'Twenty Two', whereas on the YouTube version he says 'Twenty Two'.
Anyone else noticed that?
Oh, and I didn't know until I looked at his Wikipedia article that Bengsch also does all the dubbing for Richard Gere when his films are translated into German ... pub quiz fact there!
Sailor Steve
03-31-13, 11:17 AM
IOh, and I didn't know until I looked at his Wikipedia article that Bengsch also does all the dubbing for Richard Gere when his films are translated into German ... pub quiz fact there!
That's pretty cool. I didn't know that either. :rock:
Redbear
04-04-13, 09:14 AM
I also have three versions - bluray, director's cut superbit and the full length version. I have to say I like the full length version, but don't often have time to watch it! In that case, my go-to choice is now usually the bluray.
I've had the directors cut version for several years. The full length version should arrive today! I'm looking forward to watching it.
:subsim:
sladoledar
04-05-13, 08:47 AM
Removed per rules. Please, no linking to torrents or illegal downloads.
...are those ladies also in Das Boot ?
Jimbuna
04-05-13, 10:30 AM
best one in my opinion!
Will you be kind enough to delete the link before further action results as a consequence?
RustySubmarine
04-05-13, 10:41 AM
Thank you Jimbuana. I reported this! Not the sort of thing we should be encouraging.
Whilst on the topic of the film Das Boot, have a look at this review postyed on Amazon. What a plonker, if he doesn't know what to expect of submariners when ashore and cooked up in a sub for weeks on end, what does he expect. If it disgusted him so much, then why did he watch it all the way through in the first place! :rotfl2:
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/x-locale/common/customer-reviews/stars-1-0._V192241078_.gif Worst movie ever. Literally Nauseating!, April 2, 2013
By
Midge (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A39SJ6V6QCGC37/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp/182-8468349-6336254)
This review is from: Das Boot - The Director's Cut (DVD)
Nothing but every kind of gross use of body fluids & disgusting behavior & sickening comments throughout entire movie. Quite literally peeing on each other, puking, flicking gross nose contents at each other with constant sickening comments about toe jam, poop & everything else gross & filthy imaginable filling every moment of the first entire hour. It is bad enough to make the audience retch. I am not exaggerating in the least. This disgusting behavior & gross dialogue is nonstop for at least 1.5 hour of the first side of the movie with only 10 minutes of shaking, rattling & spraying water onto this sty. Then you discover there is nearly another 1.5 hour of movie remaining on the other side.
I have never in my entire life heard or saw such a disgusting display. Even Ren & Stimpy aren't this bad. Close; but this movie is worse. It makes you hope for an early sinking to stop the audiences suffering. I've managed outside plant cable (http://www.amazon.com/review/R5WBK8MGNDWXI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0767802470&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#) crews; some of the raunchiest you've ever met... but they couldn't hold a candle to the gross, disgusting behavior & dialogue on this movie which is nonstop from the very onset.
After a brief moment of deep diving, they returned to their previous disgusting, putrid behavior. Including naked short arm inspections with crawling crabs (rear view only), drinking soured milk, eating hairy meat, flinging gross body debris, etc. Puking, sharing bunks & complaining about the nasty details of body sweat, feet & oils from their bunkmate (& I'm not close to using the dialogue on this film which is nonstop nauseating to purposely make you ill). Things so sickening, nonstop throughout the entire movie; too awful to list on here.
Then we have a redheaded actor with constant filthy, idiotic comments, obviously British descent who clearly belongs on Monty Python. Can't act & talks like a moronic swishy feminine throughout (this is a behavior description, not a sex preference issue); in any language you choose to watch. He clearly looks & sounds like a joke on a German U-boat. A Harpo Marx (Lucille Ball) type. Constantly talking about passing gas in public. Animal House was better behaved than this tripe.
This is beyond wanting your money back. The audience should sue for pain & suffering the indignities. This movie made every effort to make the audience retch. I can't think of bad enough things to say about it. It is quite literally the worst movie ever made.
At 2/3rds through the movie, you are convinced the movie could only improve by sinking the sub & ending the movie.
The music is even worse like some Lone Ranger episode or spaghetti western. Cheap & corny. Only 10 minutes of the first 1.5 hours on side one give you a break from the filthy behavior & dialogue with shaking & rattling at the end of side one. Then to your horror, you discover there is nearly another 1.5 hours on side 2.
You might be better off to skip (http://www.amazon.com/review/R5WBK8MGNDWXI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0767802470&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#) side one entirely. I can't believe any studio actually approved money for this script. Side one is a complete disgusting waste with no redeemable footages.
Side 2 starts off with crew insanity & even more violent shaking for 10 minutes; wasting a torpedo on a burning wreck; stranding survivors; guilt & depression (http://www.amazon.com/review/R5WBK8MGNDWXI/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0767802470&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#); back to filthy behavior again; a ridiculous feast & pompous over actors at port; dragging slowly through every scene uneventfully until 45 minutes into side 2; Blood & Sub damage until they gloriously hit the bottom. But even then, we are not spared further misery as it sits on the bottom where it should have imploded. We are forced to endure 30 minutes of watching them flounder aimlessly in depression waiting to die on the bottom until the last 15 minutes of the movie when it finally rises to the surface. Then we are back to loud parties & a deteriorating officer; arriving at base to pompous band ceremonies & a surprise air assault.
At long last, most of the filthy crew is battered, raving & wiped out on the docks as the sub sinks from the Bombings. It is the only highlight after being subjected to such a horrible 3 hours.
I cannot imagine how anyone could enjoy this movie. Truly, the only way to watch it would be to skip side one entirely, read the overview online for character reference then watch side 2 with the fast forward & chapter skip buttons. Out of 3 hours, there are only 30 minutes of watchable footage which is all on side 2. But even that is a crawling waste of time. The director & writer should be banned for life.
Do Not let children or teenagers watch this movie. Also not recommended for those easily offended by smut.
If you still insist... Rent. Don't buy. But if you can't tolerate Ren & Stimpy, you will not be able to tolerate this movie
Herr-Berbunch
04-05-13, 10:51 AM
Whilst on the topic of the film Das Boot, have a look at this review postyed on Amazon.
Subnuts posted a thread about this very review yesterday.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203503 :O:
Since then she's responded to the response.
guntherprien
04-05-13, 11:17 AM
That's my point. He was not a "real" u-boat sailor, and some (not all) of the men who were there said he got it wrong. Don't mistake me; I love the movie and I love the book. I was only pointing out that some of the criticisms he levelled at the movie were also levelled at his book by some of those he served with.
Yes,you are quite correct,I get your drift now.:salute:
Hinrich Schwab
04-05-13, 11:52 AM
Thank you Jimbuana. I reported this! Not the sort of thing we should be encouraging.
Whilst on the topic of the film Das Boot, have a look at this review postyed on Amazon. What a plonker, if he doesn't know what to expect of submariners when ashore and cooked up in a sub for weeks on end, what does he expect. If it disgusted him so much, then why did he watch it all the way through in the first place! :rotfl2:
(review omitted for brevity)
Apparently she did not like the recommendations for creative uses for corks and violin strings.:haha:
After reading her responses, it is apparent that she is completely ignorant of how things actually occur in military service and is only sold on the pomp and circumstance that exists in the modern "politically correct" military. I would love to see her reaction to the book where The Old Man and the LI constantly try to one-up each other in a "freak out contest" throughout the patrol (This explains the reaction to the 2WO's U-Boat cocktail better than the movie does. The 2WO got them both). We know it is a good movie, 99.99999999999999999999 ad infinitum percent of people who watch the movie say it is good. ONE whiny Emily Post wannabe is not going to change that fact. I had thought about leaving a comment, but I remembered one of my old axioms; one cannot reason with fanatics. Let this person believe that military folk do not engage in "boonie rant" when on duty. It does not change the fact that it does occur.
ninja turtle
04-05-13, 04:31 PM
Whilst I believe that everyone has a right to their opinion, in this case surely it is wise to read the other reviews and perhaps rethink whether the proposed review is unjust to the product?
:hmm2:
I have quite a few versions of the film "Das Boot" both in English and German with subtitles. But the best one in my opinion is the Digitally Re-mastered , Original Uncut Version of the 6 part Mini Series presented as One complete feature length uncut version. running time 4hrs 48 mins. (English speaking). Also got the same version, German speaking with English subtitles, which can be turned off. I play this sometimes, but not understanding German, I can't pick up most of the dialogue, but it seems more realistic in one sense.
I watch this film about once every three months, which I never seem to tire of. It sparks up some enthusiasm to playing SH3. Must have seen it over 100 times since it's release. Best ever Submarine film ever made. Might watch it again tonight, yes I think I will!
I watched this version recently...all 3 parts are here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxERLX08Ll4
I will be getting this movie in the near future. I really want the Blu-Ray version but I also don't want to miss out on the full length version as I've never seen it.
Not only one of the best war movies ever made but one of the best movies ever made period. It tells a human story unlike any other movie does.
On a slightly related note. There's an insane burning rage within me reserved for overdubbing. I can't stand it. I always watch movies in their original language. It got pretty rough when I was watching Tora, Tora, Tora in Japanese with Norwegian subtitles (I'm Finnish).
Sailor Steve
04-16-13, 05:14 PM
What do you expect coming from a woman.
Since one of the women here also made fun of Midge, and we have several female members who love Silent Hunter and Das Boot, maybe you should think twice before making insulting and demeaning comments based on gender, or on anything else.
Miki_Mundi
04-17-13, 01:07 PM
I watched this film (one of my all time favourites) the very first time many years ago.
I had an old tv set that soometimes reverted to black and white, so this is how I saw the movie first.
It was german with subtitles.
Years later I saw the film again and was shocked that it was colour, viewing in b/w was soooo much more claustraphobic and tense that I recommend it to everyone.
Should of been filmed that way in first place imo!
scramasax
04-17-13, 02:41 PM
read the book :)
Kessner
04-23-13, 07:19 AM
:)
Someone has the Das Boot movie on youtube believe it or not, the full length no less, not a bunch of cut edits to build a full length. I mean the whole movie start to end. I have it on my faveriots. When I up to it, I watch it as long it is up there until someone cries about it and has the user pull the video.. In the mean time that is were I watch it....
Sailor Steve
04-23-13, 08:41 AM
If someone "cries about it and has the user pull the video", it will be because it was uploaded illegally. We don't control what YouTube does, or worry if you talk about it, but saying someone pointing out a crime is "crying about it" is a bit of a stretch. If you truly love the movie you will buy a copy.
Kessner
04-23-13, 10:38 AM
If someone "cries about it and has the user pull the video", it will be because it was uploaded illegally. We don't control what YouTube does, or worry if you talk about it, but saying someone pointing out a crime is "crying about it" is a bit of a stretch. If you truly love the movie you will buy a copy.
Understood, but in order to upload anything it can ONLY be 9 minutes long. I know this for a fact, I have a account myself.
If the user has a full length feature, then he paid money, to have that ability via youtube, then the upload is not illeagle, because youtube blocks that or removes that. Lawyers are always scrolling looking for illeagle actions of copy rights.
What I mean by "CRYING" Is loddging a complaint against it because to the complaintif they may feel it is making heros of Nazi people. You are fooling yourself if you do not think that there are people who do not turn up a blind eye to facts and change them as they see fit for their own reasons...
I am NOT breaking any laws, and if you must know Steve...
I had a string of bad tidings brought down on me since 2008 Steve, lost my job, lost my family, lost my home. Been struggling it since, got a job in 2009. But manegemnt was looking for a reason to fire anyone, so I was lied against and fired for something I did not do. And I am told the company can do what they want. So I can do nothing.
Now in Nov 2011, I suffer a bad back injury from a heavy chick I was dating. She had to wrap her self around me during the night. No money to go to the doctor to get it fix or looked at. In 2012 I have fallen ill during the summer. A lump was disscovered in my left lung, it may be a tumor, or it maybe cancer, one thing is for sure, it is killing me now..
I have applied for Dissability because I have worked since 1986 (Senior year in HS), So I put my money in. But under the current admin, dosen't look like it may not happen.
So I get to loose everything including my life, and believe me, I do not fear dying. I am a ex-veteran Security officer with advance training. I worked at the Chicago Projects in the early 90's before they were closed down. I have seen the berrel of a gun in my face, and it makes me MAD!:mad:. So there is no fear, that will get you killed in a place like that to be sure of...
So NOW, I play with what I have left, and wounder were my kids are and how they doing. Because when the lod lady left in 2008 she took the kids too. :shifty: Crying about it is pointless, it will never change things, to bad, it is what it is.
So I have to stay with family, proable die first before I do get the help I need. Oh well moving on...So there for Mr.Steve I do not have all the money in the world to chase down movies I want, and my own place to watch it in peace. Just when playing the Silent Hunter game with the voices in German I get little complaints about WW 2 and Hitlers army. As if I am promoting this. And we are German decendents!:06:
My screen name is a Edited version of my real last name and pronounce the same.
But Mr.Steve, You know what, in the end it dosen't matter, SO YEAH I will watch the movie on youtube as I see fit. I am breaking NO LAWS, and I am thankfull that SOMEONE is willing to make it possable for someone as unfortain as I to be able to watch it. IS that good enough reason Mr.Steve? :shifty: Because it is the truth.
I am sorry I am not fitting in too well on the Subsim fourms, seem any post I lodge someone has to get into it with me for what? nothing. I am thinking of resigning.:nope:
AND I WILL still watch that movie....:03:
I need to go on patrol...........................
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