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edwardallen
03-26-13, 02:07 PM
In the real world would the aob be calculated by the navigator or weapons officer or estimated by the captain through the periscope.

Sailor Steve
03-26-13, 03:42 PM
Captain through the periscope. It has to be judged by sight.

merc4ulfate
03-26-13, 10:00 PM
In the real world you get a report from sonar, the captain tells everyone what he wants and they do it from the weapons officer to XO. The weapons officer makes sure everything is set and the captain decides when to fire ... that would be 5 to 10 miles away from the target using the MK48 Advanced Capability (ADCAP) Heavyweight Torpedo or the MK46 Mod 5. Occasionally a MK50. It is pretty much all governed by the ships computers from gathered senor data.

The fish can be set for active hunting meaning they have internal sonar that becomes active at a preset range from launch or they are passive by listening for cavitation which directs the fish towards the target. They are wire guided so if they lose the target and the submarine can target it on sonar the weapons specialist can manually turn the fish back towards the target.

The fish strikes ... target go boom ... ship goes down. I fish ... one kill. If its a big ship ... well we always might have a nuclear tipped fish or two.

They are working on anti-torpedo torpedoes.

Pisces
03-27-13, 08:42 AM
In the real world you get a report from sonar, the captain tells everyone what he wants and they do it from the weapons officer to XO. The weapons officer makes sure everything is set and the captain decides when to fire ... that would be 5 to 10 miles away from the target using the MK48 Advanced Capability (ADCAP) Heavyweight Torpedo or the MK46 Mod 5. Occasionally a MK50. It is pretty much all governed by the ships computers from gathered senor data.

The fish can be set for active hunting meaning they have internal sonar that becomes active at a preset range from launch or they are passive by listening for cavitation which directs the fish towards the target. They are wire guided so if they lose the target and the submarine can target it on sonar the weapons specialist can manually turn the fish back towards the target.

The fish strikes ... target go boom ... ship goes down. I fish ... one kill. If its a big ship ... well we always might have a nuclear tipped fish or two.

They are working on anti-torpedo torpedoes. Yeah, but that would be current day real world.

SH4 isn't really a current day sim.

merc4ulfate
03-27-13, 10:08 AM
LOL but they said real world LOL:salute:

BillBam
03-27-13, 11:37 AM
WW2 wasn't real world? hhmmmmm...may be today certainly real world.

TorpX
03-27-13, 10:26 PM
In the real world would the aob be calculated by the navigator or weapons officer or estimated by the captain through the periscope.


It could be determined by analysis of the plot, but this works only if the target is moving straight (which was usually not the case), and the plot is accurate.
It could be calculated by using the aspect ratio, but this requires positive ID of the target, and knowing height and length, and takes time.
It could be done visually, with the "Mk I eyeball". This wasn't foolproof, but did not require extra info, and was the fastest method.
Most often, it was estimated by the skipper, visually.

I've had reason to think more about this than I used to. I used to often do the plot-geometry thing, but consider it highly unrealistic now. Beyond what I mentioned above, if one uses the plot-geometry method, you are using the plot (produced without benefit of any AoB information) to estimate AoB (thus reproducing any plot error). Using the other methods makes use of independently obtained information, to improve the plot (thus minimizing plot error).

Pisces
03-28-13, 01:33 PM
LOL but they said real world LOL:salute:

WW2 wasn't real world? hhmmmmm...may be today certainly real world.I never said WW2 isn't real world. It was! It's just that there are no ADCAPs and so on in SH4, or in the real WW2. So merc4ulfate's message didn't really seem to apply here in that respect. It would in the Dangerous Waters or Subcommand forum, or General discussion.