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geetrue
03-21-13, 02:06 PM
Hard to believe that it has been almost 27 years now ...

Hope this never happens to one of ours or yours

Prypiat a town of 47,000 people is just a ghost town now and may take another 25 to 35 years to be visited again


http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4859988329758954&pid=1.7

http://ukrainetrek.com/pripyat-city


Pripyat (also spelled Prypiat) was a small city located in Kiev oblast (http://ukrainetrek.com/kiev-oblast) of Ukraine. It is standing on the Pripyat River near the border with Belarus. Pripyat was the home city for people working at one of the largest in Europe nuclear power plants - Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. The direct distance between Pripyat and Kiev (http://ukrainetrek.com/kiev-city) is only 94 km.

Tchocky
03-21-13, 02:08 PM
Guess that makes me 27 next month too :woot:

AVGWarhawk
03-21-13, 02:08 PM
Gosh, has it been that long?

Ducimus
03-21-13, 02:18 PM
Obligatory.
http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/820/1310098158657.jpg

Betonov
03-21-13, 02:25 PM
I was 2 months old. I think it affected me in strange ways mere mortals can't imagine

AVGWarhawk
03-21-13, 02:27 PM
I just got that game Duci! :haha:

Schroeder
03-21-13, 02:43 PM
I was 4,5 years old back then and I only remember that I wasn't allowed to play outside for some time. Back then I only understood that something terrible had happened far away but not far enough away....:-?

Oberon
03-21-13, 02:54 PM
I must say I don't remember a thing of it, except a very slight memory of that famous footage taken from a helicopter of the burning reactor.

To think that 25 years later that there would be another level 7 incident on the other side of the planet.

That's the price we pay for our vast electronic thirst.

CCIP
03-21-13, 03:25 PM
It's actually affected me personally - I lived in Russia at the time, and was 2 years old, and happened to be caught in a rainshower in the days after it... There is reason to suspect that some chronic health problems I experienced in the years afterwards were related to it.

The degree of disinformation following the disaster is staggering. Noone knew anything, because the information was repressed until too late.

It was even tougher on family friends of hours though. They lived in Kiev; 4 days later, most of them were at the May Day parade - and even then nobody was told anything, but everybody's ears were ringing. They could tell something was wrong, but nobody stopped the event, and so most of them were there. Most of them except one of the siblings in that family, that is, because he was busy with his work as one of the "liquidators". It's hard to overstate how tragic the fate of the "liquidators" of Chernobyl is - not only are they the unsung heroes who never got their true credit, but they're also the most significant group of victims who hardly got any support until too late. Most of them had no idea how bad it was, and in fact most of them didn't even know what they were being sent into. Those who were sent in the immediately afterwards generally had neither training nor protective equipment to deal with it. The best safety measure that most of them got was to limit their exposure - but working near a melted-down reactor meant that even a few minutes was enough to kill many of them, or at least change their life forever. That brother of my family's friends never recovered from it. He was sick for the rest of his life and never even got so much as a thanks. 10 years after Chernobyl, he blew his own head off with a shotgun in front of his entire family.

Hopefully someday the "liquidators" will get their rightful place in that story. Sadly, fewer and fewer of them are alive these days.

Wolferz
03-21-13, 06:49 PM
Only 9,973 years to go before it becomes inhabitable again.:-?

u crank
03-21-13, 07:10 PM
After the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster I read a lot about Chernobyl. A very compelling story. The story of the biorobots is unnerving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zx739LOE8U

Red October1984
03-21-13, 07:24 PM
I still want to visit Chernobyl some day. I think it would be cool to see that.

It's tragic though.

Stealhead
03-21-13, 08:06 PM
Only 9,973 years to go before it becomes inhabitable again.:-?


Actually the flora and fauna live all over that region.There are also people that lived there that refused to leave others that left for a time and returned.
Not that it is much of a benefit considering all the harm caused.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0426_060426_chernobyl.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/living-in-chernobyl-radioactivity-that-s-nonsense-a-412954.html

Two documentaries about the children of Chernobyl.(might be difficult to watch for some) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujAG_Ofj4M
This is what governments do to people.

GT182
03-21-13, 09:34 PM
I wonder if it's still deathly quiet in Chernobyl. They say there's not a sound from anything but the wind, and it would drive you mad if you were able stay there.

Red October1984
03-21-13, 10:25 PM
I wonder if it's still deathly quiet in Chernobyl. They say there's not a sound from anything but the wind, and it would drive you mad if you were able stay there.

I still think it would be an awesome place to see and explore.

To stay the night? Hell, I'd do it with proper equipment. I think it would be fun. I'm not scared of anything...but Radiation seems a bit on the bad side. The mutants and wild dogs don't scare me. :O:

Chernobyl Diaries was such a bad movie.... I like seeing my friend's reactions though. That's the fun in watching horror movies. They are some stupid movies, but I like seeing the looks on my friend's face. :D

To put me in perspective, I laugh through horror movies. Nothing has scared me yet. Insidious, The Shining, Paranormal Activity, Chernobyl Diaries, and several others....just don't scare me...but they scared the living hell out of my friends

My friend that I get to watch horror movies with me? He's my age and he puts up a protective wall of pillows during movies. I got him to watch Insidious with me and some other friends....so he sits behind the girls and the pillows....

He saw Apollo 18 and couldn't walk through his yard after dark that night. He's a bit of a wuss when it comes to horror movies....but i have my work cut out for me. I'll see if I can't get him unscared.

I think i've derailed this thread.... Sorry about that. Just had a good laugh when I thought of Chernobyl Diaries...

Stealhead
03-21-13, 10:37 PM
I still think it would be an awesome place to see and explore.

To stay the night? Hell, I'd do it with proper equipment. I think it would be fun. I'm not scared of anything...but Radiation seems a bit on the bad side. The mutants and wild dogs don't scare me. :O:

Chernobyl Diaries was such a bad movie.... I like seeing my friend's reactions though. That's the fun in watching horror movies. They are some stupid movies, but I like seeing the looks on my friend's face. :D

To put me in perspective, I laugh through horror movies. Nothing has scared me yet. Insidious, The Shining, Paranormal Activity, Chernobyl Diaries, and several others....just don't scare me...but they scared the living hell out of my friends

My friend that I get to watch horror movies with me? He's my age and he puts up a protective wall of pillows during movies. I got him to watch Insidious with me and some other friends....so he sits behind the girls and the pillows....

He saw Apollo 18 and couldn't walk through his yard after dark that night. He's a bit of a wuss when it comes to horror movies....but i have my work cut out for me. I'll see if I can't get him unscared.

I think i've derailed this thread.... Sorry about that. Just had a good laugh when I thought of Chernobyl Diaries...

Maybe just a little Ducimus posted the "get out of here Stalker" which of course is a joke to any Stalker fan like myself.And STALKER does not overly "exploit" the real tragedy per say though in a way it does the post was not in bad taste.

I would say though that talking much more in detail about STALKER or other movies and entertainment based off of the accident is a bit derailing and just slightly disrespectful when the subject matter of the thread is serious.

I am a little surprised that you could have watched the video I posted and still wanted to talk about entertainment and used the tone that you did in your post.I am not trying to correct you don't take me the wrong way.Maybe you did not watch the video if not you should try to follow the posts in a thread better.You do not have to read every word watch every second but you do want to have a firm grasp of how the thread is flowing.

Just try to pick up better on the subject and tone of a thread a little better.Maybe I am just being overly picky.

Red October1984
03-21-13, 11:24 PM
Maybe just a little Ducimus posted the "get out of here Stalker" which of course is a joke to any Stalker fan like myself.And STALKER does not overly "exploit" the real tragedy per say though in a way it does the post was not in bad taste.

I would say though that talking much more in detail about STALKER or other movies and entertainment based off of the accident is a bit derailing and just slightly disrespectful when the subject matter of the thread is serious.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful here. Chernobyl was a horrible thing....but it interests me. I'm curious and I'm just saying it's interesting to learn about.

I am a little surprised that you could have watched the video I posted and still wanted to talk about entertainment and used the tone that you did in your post.I am not trying to correct you don't take me the wrong way.Maybe you did not watch the video if not you should try to follow the posts in a thread better.You do not have to read every word watch every second but you do want to have a firm grasp of how the thread is flowing.

I don't watch any videos that are posted usually. My internet connection can't handle youtube very well so it's pointless to even try.

Just try to pick up better on the subject and tone of a thread a little better.Maybe I am just being overly picky.

Nah...you're right for calling me on that one. I'm being kind of derailing and maybe disrespectful to any Russians or anyone who was directly affected by this disaster. I don't mean any of it. I know that this was a terrible, terrible, terrible thing and it has ruined that area for the next 10,000 years. I just love the "Post-Apocalyptic Survival" stuff and Chernobyl is one of my ( I really HATE to say this. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. ) favorite of the "Apocalyptic" disasters. Not because lots of people died and had to leave home...but I think it makes for a really cool story because the people who live there are basically living Fallout 3 or STALKER every day without the mutants (or are there mutants? :06: ) and without most of that fictional crap. This is the real deal and IT HAPPENED! Sometimes I have a hard time believing that something like that happened. It just seems so crazy...



I've stated before that I sometimes have a dark sense of humor and a dark way of looking at things. Not all the time...I do have positive outlooks...but there's the odd thing that comes along....Chernobyl...while not "cool and interesting" to all of you...it's cool and interesting to me. It's not exactly the best thing for an international forum and a disaster as bad as this... I know... I apologize for anything that might have offended anyone in any way. It's an intriguing subject....

If there are any survivor stories....I'd actually love to read/hear those. I haven't actually heard/read any personal accounts of the disaster. I only know what I've seen from entertainment and Wikipedia. :oops:

GoldenRivet
03-21-13, 11:25 PM
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2010/3/7/children-of-chernobyl-warning-graphic-images-1770395

amazing video... :nope:

Stealhead
03-21-13, 11:57 PM
I'm not trying to be disrespectful here. Chernobyl was a horrible thing....but it interests me. I'm curious and I'm just saying it's interesting to learn about.



I don't watch any videos that are posted usually. My internet connection can't handle youtube very well so it's pointless to even try.



Nah...you're right for calling me on that one. I'm being kind of derailing and maybe disrespectful to any Russians or anyone who was directly affected by this disaster. I don't mean any of it. I know that this was a terrible, terrible, terrible thing and it has ruined that area for the next 10,000 years. I just love the "Post-Apocalyptic Survival" stuff and Chernobyl is one of my ( I really HATE to say this. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. ) favorite of the "Apocalyptic" disasters. Not because lots of people died and had to leave home...but I think it makes for a really cool story because the people who live there are basically living Fallout 3 or STALKER every day without the mutants (or are there mutants? :06: ) and without most of that fictional crap. This is the real deal and IT HAPPENED! Sometimes I have a hard time believing that something like that happened. It just seems so crazy...



I've stated before that I sometimes have a dark sense of humor and a dark way of looking at things. Not all the time...I do have positive outlooks...but there's the odd thing that comes along....Chernobyl...while not "cool and interesting" to all of you...it's cool and interesting to me. It's not exactly the best thing for an international forum and a disaster as bad as this... I know... I apologize for anything that might have offended anyone in any way. It's an intriguing subject....

If there are any survivor stories....I'd actually love to read/hear those. I haven't actually heard/read any personal accounts of the disaster. I only know what I've seen from entertainment and Wikipedia. :oops:


I was a little harsh to be honest.I meant to "say come across as disrespectful".I don't think that you meant to be disrespectful the topic just got you thinking about Post Apoc games and movies so you posted your thoughts on that.

Here are a few stories all text no videos.

A woman that was still in the womb in 1986
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/child-of-chernobyl-25-years-later/237881/

The story of a liquidator
http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2006/mirnyi_iview2

Red October1984
03-22-13, 07:21 AM
Here are a few stories all text no videos.

A woman that was still in the womb in 1986
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/child-of-chernobyl-25-years-later/237881/

The story of a liquidator
http://www.bellona.org/articles/articles_2006/mirnyi_iview2

These are some pretty good stories. Thanks for posting! :)

Jimbuna
03-22-13, 07:29 AM
I still remember it quite well and recall staring with a mix of bewilderment and admiration at those people on top of the reactors roof.

geetrue
03-22-13, 11:02 AM
Steelhead was just helping you Red October like a mother bear backhands her cub ...

gentle like instructions can be part of your up bringing and help your soul

I remember being a young seaman apprentice radarman on a heavy cruiser when a first calss radarman ask me to make a pot of coffee when I was off duty and I just smirked and put it off and didn't do it.

He puts me on report and I found out that his request to make a pot of coffee was really an order.

I made the coffee after that and learned respect.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

One of the problems f I have read correctly is that this nuclear reactor is one of the very few reactors that only had a single shell covering. The rest have a double shell that would've prevented this sort of thing.

These poor victims of a major disaster may have prevented the dangerous mentality of starting a nuclear war ...

If this accident was appalling ... what would an exchange of nuclear weapons become?

eddie
03-22-13, 11:16 AM
I still remember it quite well and recall staring with a mix of bewilderment and admiration at those people on top of the reactors roof.

That and pics of all those Russian helicopters dropping sand or whatever on the reactor, then seeing on the news how the radiation cloud was spreading around the globe. It kept showing an area that was growing so fast all the time. What a mess that was back then!

Ducimus
03-22-13, 11:20 AM
Maybe just a little Ducimus posted the "get out of here Stalker" which of course is a joke to any Stalker fan like myself.And STALKER does not overly "exploit" the real tragedy per say though in a way it does the post was not in bad taste.


Yes it was a joke. I think most everyone here is also a gamer, and most gamers have played the series. So when the subject of Chernobyl comes up, the reference is neigh unavoidable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY9yLhpoNX8). I just posted the picture before somebody else did.