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Someone should have busted him in the mouth during sentencing, showed up in court wearing a t-shirt that said Killer on it. Showed no remorse for killing 3 students and wounding 3 others.
He gave the families of the victims the finger while there, and you'll have to read in the article as to what he said in his statement. As soon as he finished his statement, is when one of the deputies should have knocked him out! But the Judge nailed him with his sentence. Good riddence to this
piece of crap!!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/19/17370830-ohio-school-shooter-wearing-killer-t-shirt-sentenced-to-life-in-prison?lite
Cybermat47
03-20-13, 06:32 PM
Disgusting little twerp :nope:
Takeda Shingen
03-20-13, 06:50 PM
Enjoy the showers, jerk.
Platapus
03-20-13, 06:52 PM
He will do well on the prison football team.
He may start out as a tight end, but he will end up a wide receiver. :D
Cybermat47
03-20-13, 07:02 PM
He will do well on the prison football team.
He may start out as a tight end, but he will end up a wide receiver. :D
I don't get it :hmmm:
Something to do with guns?
Takeda Shingen
03-20-13, 07:03 PM
I don't get it :hmmm:
Something to do with guns?
American football.
d@rk51d3
03-20-13, 07:23 PM
American football.
Prison style.
Jimbuna
03-20-13, 07:44 PM
He will do well on the prison football team.
He may start out as a tight end, but he will end up a wide receiver. :D
LOL...I certainly hope so :)
Cybermat47
03-20-13, 08:44 PM
American football.
I might have gotten it if it was about guns, but sport? No hope for me :roll:
EDIT: Wait, is it about ess-ee-eks?
Takeda Shingen
03-20-13, 08:45 PM
I might have gotten it if it was about guns, but sport? No hope for me :roll:
It's just an idiom, don't worry about it. We're hoping that bad sexual things happen to him.
NeonSamurai
03-20-13, 11:40 PM
They are playing with an alternate take of the "don't drop the soap in prison" thing.
That kid will probably get himself shanked pretty fast would be my guess. He will probably go into protective custody in prison.
They are playing with an alternate take of the "don't drop the soap in prison" thing.
That kid will probably get himself shanked pretty fast would be my guess. He will probably go into protective custody in prison.
That's my thinking as well. Of course his behavior to the victims families just might be a factor in how well that pc is actually maintained.
Aramike
03-20-13, 11:58 PM
This case makes me irritated that, for some reason, all homo sapiens are defined as "human". Our ancestors got it so wrong, attempting to define people by something so trivial as race.
People CAN be defined ... in this case, defined as something less than deserving of three hots a day and no bills to pay. Personally, I think extermination would even be too easy for him, and privately I hope his eventual pain becomes an unbearable burden to bear.
Is that wrong of me? Maybe. But there isn't much I wouldn't give to hear of him squealing in unending agony in exchange for the misery he caused the survivors of his victims.
What a vile creature this prick is.
Tribesman
03-21-13, 02:10 AM
Someone should have busted him in the mouth during sentencing
Why give him what he wants?
The little prick wanted a big reaction.
Ignore the idiot and let him rot in jail.
BossMark
03-21-13, 02:14 AM
Only one thing tossers like this deserve.......................
Cybermat47
03-21-13, 02:15 AM
This case makes me irritated that, for some reason, all homo sapiens are defined as "human".
Isn't it Homo Sapiens Sapiens (wise wise man) though? :06:
antikristuseke
03-21-13, 02:45 AM
Why give him what he wants?
The little prick wanted a big reaction.
Ignore the idiot and let him rot in jail.
Agreed, but that said, I wouldn't mind knocking this little **** around with a tire iron for a while.
Gargamel
03-21-13, 09:27 AM
Hell yeah.
I work down the street from the school, and his actions really hurt this village.
Ducimus
03-21-13, 09:46 AM
Life in prison?
A capital crime, deserves capital punishment.
Justice has fallen short.
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 10:51 AM
Life in prison?
A capital crime, deserves capital punishment.
Justice has fallen short.
Maybe in your opinion.
However, a life in prison without parole is worse than death row.
Like Takeda put it earlier: Enjoy the showers.
Ducimus
03-21-13, 11:08 AM
Maybe in your opinion.
However, a life in prison without parole is worse than death row.
Maybe in your opinion. :03:
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 11:14 AM
Maybe in your opinion. :03:
No, in the opinion of many prisoners who are sentenced for a life in prison without the chance of parole.
HundertzehnGustav
03-21-13, 11:24 AM
he can always stop breathing if he wants "out":stare:
he can always stop breathing if he wants "out":stare:
Or request to be put back into general population. Convicts don't like kid killers.
Ducimus
03-21-13, 11:50 AM
No, in the opinion of many prisoners who are sentenced for a life in prison without the chance of parole.
An opinion, is an opinion none nonetheless.
And as far as prisoners sentenced to life in prison, why should anyone give a damn about what the opinion's of murders and rapists are anyway. If I had my way, repeat offenders would cease to be a financial burden to the country.
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 12:10 PM
An opinion, is an opinion none nonetheless.
And as far as prisoners sentenced to life in prison, why should anyone give a damn about what the opinion's of murders and rapists are anyway. If I had my way, repeat offenders would cease to be a financial burden to the country.
So if you want them to suffer, let them be in prison?
FYI, people on death row cost more than people who sit behind bars their whole life, so the cost factor is not a pro-CP argument, it actually works against it.
Additionally, I care to be honest. No mater what someone has done, I do not see why anyone else, especially a government, should have the right to kill anyone. Killing is killing, it is wrong.
Hottentot
03-21-13, 12:27 PM
So if you want them to suffer, let them be in prison?
[snip]
Additionally, I care to be honest.
Agreed. Seeing that I might one day end up behind the bars myself, I care. I'd be fooling myself if I claimed that this could never happen. It would be incredibly short sighted and arrogant of me to say that I could never in my life under any circumstances commit a crime serious enough to end up in prison and therefore be labelled "criminal".
Furthermore, as I have mentioned (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1926360&postcount=22) before, there are less than glamorous examples of what can happen when a society starts taking rights away from criminals. I find this example interesting, to be honest, but really scary at the same time, because the slippery slope there is very apparent and not only a fallacy, but an actual example from history.
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 12:39 PM
I remember reading that (very good) post, I agreed in silence. :up:
I do not see why anyone else, especially a government, should have the right to kill anyone. Killing is killing, it is wrong.
I have no problem with justified killing and that includes those who commit capital crimes. My problem with the DP is that the government can't be trusted with only executing the guilty.
BossMark
03-21-13, 01:29 PM
he can always stop breathing if he wants "out":stare:
He probably will get a helping hand or two with that :haha:
Ducimus
03-21-13, 01:53 PM
FYI, people on death row cost more than people who sit behind bars their whole life, so the cost factor is not a pro-CP argument, it actually works against it.
That's because theirs too much litigation and too much concern over the rights of scumbags who don't give a damn about anyones rights or anyones life. They get way more consideration then they deserve. Again, if i had my way, they would cease to cost the country ANY money.
Additionally, I care to be honest. No mater what someone has done, I do not see why anyone else, especially a government, should have the right to kill anyone. Killing is killing, it is wrong.
And i think the punishment should fit the crime. Particuarly in the case of repeat offenders. It is not fair to the victim, nor their friends, family or loved ones that the scumbag still draws air when he snatched it from someone else. Said scumbag took from their victim EVERYTHING they owned and cherished, and everything the would ever own, see, or experience. Why.. WHY should that scumbag continue to have all those things when he or she unjustly denied them to others? No sir, the punishment should fit the crime.
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 02:18 PM
That's because theirs too much litigation and too much concern over the rights of scumbags who don't give a damn about anyones rights or anyones life. They get way more consideration then they deserve. Again, if i had my way, they would cease to cost the country ANY money.
In that case, I am glad its not your way.
And i think the punishment should fit the crime. Particuarly in the case of repeat offenders. It is not fair to the victim, nor their friends, family or loved ones that the scumbag still draws air when he snatched it from someone else. Said scumbag took from their victim EVERYTHING they owned and cherished, and everything the would ever own, see, or experience. Why.. WHY should that scumbag continue to have all those things when he or she unjustly denied them to others? No sir, the punishment should fit the crime.
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
- Mahatma Gandhi
Ducimus
03-21-13, 02:23 PM
The world is not rainbows and unicorns, nor can you rehabilitate serial killers. It's best to put them down and be done with it.
The world is not rainbows and unicorns, nor can you rehabilitate serial killers. It's best to put them down and be done with it.
I agree. I'm just concerned with the governments ability to only prosecute the guilty. You can't take back the DP once it's carried out.
Ducimus
03-21-13, 02:35 PM
I agree. I'm just concerned with the governments ability to only prosecute the guilty. You can't take back the DP once it's carried out.
Which is why I keep saying, "repeat offenders" and "serial killer".
I think it's entirely possible for someone to be falsely accused and convicted once, but not multiple times.
For example, here's two character's that should not be alive and kicking:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Charles-mansonbookingphoto.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Richard_Ramirez_2007.jpg
You think they got falsely accused. I don't!
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 02:36 PM
The world is not rainbows and unicorns, nor can you rehabilitate serial killers. It's best to put them down and be done with it.
So when people think eye for an eye is the wrong approach they believe in unicorns? :hmm2:
Ducimus
03-21-13, 02:39 PM
So when people think eye for an eye is the wrong approach they believe in unicorns? :hmm2:
I was insinuating that your an idealist, a wisher, or a dreamer. An outlook which I do not share. I prefer to realize the world for how it is, and deal with it.
Tribesman
03-21-13, 02:44 PM
That's because theirs too much litigation and too much concern over the rights of scumbags who don't give a damn about anyones rights or anyones life. They get way more consideration then they deserve.
How many "scumbags" have been released recently from death row in your country after litigation proved they were the wrong people?
Again, if i had my way, they would cease to cost the country ANY money.
Sounds like you want a mad dictatorship with lynch mobs with no justice.
Not a very pleasant picture of your views that you are painting is it.
In fact it does look like your whole arguement is based on emotion rather than anything resembling reason.
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 02:52 PM
I was insinuating that your an idealist, a wisher, or a dreamer.
Mh, people who know me tend to say Im a pessimist and realist. Refreshing to hear something different for a change.
Maybe I just let those biblical-old-school-laws behind me and realized that this is helping no one in a modern society? And that murdering a murderer would make me the same?
I don't see why this makes me a dreamer, or wisher. What do I dream or wish for? Just because I believe killing, no matter whom, is wrong?
I don't say one shall try to rehab those cracks, but just because this is not possible, we must not kill them. Lock them up, make sure they won't threaten society anymore and that's good enough (for me).
Ducimus
03-21-13, 03:01 PM
Mh, people who know me tend to say Im a pessimist and realist. Refreshing to hear something different for a change.
Maybe I just let those biblical-old-school-laws behind me and realized that this is helping no one in a modern society? And that murdering a murderer would make me the same?
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Clearly we don't know much about each other then, because anyone who knows me, would tell you I'm not a fan of things biblical (or more specifically evangelism ). :haha:
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. :salute:
Nippelspanner
03-21-13, 03:05 PM
Clearly we don't know much about each other then, because anyone who knows me, would tell you I'm not a fan of things biblical (or more specifically evangelism ). :haha:
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. :salute:
I was reminding that eye for an eye has its origin in the bible - and this book is quite outdated.
I agree to disagree though.
Sailor Steve
03-21-13, 03:12 PM
You think they got falsely accused. I don't!
Manson is an interesting case. He got a death sentence. Then California repealed their death penalty. Then California reinstated their Death Penalty. It was decided that Manson's original sentence couldn't be reinstated because that would be the same as upping it for someone who was convicted when death wasn't an option. So he sits there, and every so often he comes up for parole review, and is always turned down. He's probably happy about that, considering how long he would survive on the outside.
My friend Rocky was once having a discussion on the death penalty. He was supporting it and the other person said that the DP isn't really a deterrent, which is arguably true. Rocky's answer to that was "Really? How many women has Ted Bundy killed recently?"
Tribesman
03-21-13, 03:18 PM
He was supporting it and the other person said that the DP isn't really a deterrent, which is arguably true. Rocky's answer to that was "Really? How many women has Ted Bundy killed recently?"
But if it was a deterrent then Bundy wouldn't have killed, if Bundys execution was a deterrent then he would have been the last serial killer.
How many women would Bundy have killed recently if he was locked up for life on conviction?
Sailor Steve
03-21-13, 03:30 PM
How many women would Bundy have killed recently if he was locked up for life on conviction?
Bundy escaped from jail. Twice. And killed again while he was free.
Also I wasn't telling the story to support the death penalty. My opinion on that changes fairly regularly. I was just telling a story about an old friend.
On the other hand I laughed when during the 1988 presidential debates Michael Dukakis, a strong anti-death-penalty candidate, was asked if he would still be against it if his own wife was raped and murdered. Poor Dukakis looked like the proverbial deer caught in the headlights, then finally gave a solemn stock answer that sounded like he was reading from a script. I laughed because I instantly knew what I would have said: "Yes, I would still be against the death penalty because I wouldn't want to fry for what I did to the *#&@^) when I caught up with him!"
Ducimus
03-21-13, 03:35 PM
. I laughed because I instantly knew what I would have said: "Yes, I would still be against the death penalty because I wouldn't want to fry for what I did to the *#&@^) when I caught up with him!"
Seriously. If a man's wife and child were murdered, I doubt their are few in that position who would not be burning with a desire to kill the bastard who did it.
Cybermat47
03-21-13, 03:35 PM
I was reminding that eye for an eye has its origin in the bible - and this book is quite outdated.
Even the Bible agrees that the law is outdated. I'm pretty sure that Jesus said something along the lines of 'two wrongs don't make a right'.
Sailor Steve
03-21-13, 04:57 PM
The law predates the Bible, originally coming from the Code of Hammurabi. the purpose wasn't to create an equal punishment, but to limit it. The usual reaction to someone gouging out an eye is to kill him. The code limited the punishment to no worse than the crime.
Even the Bible agrees that the law is outdated. I'm pretty sure that Jesus said something along the lines of 'two wrongs don't make a right'.
"You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
Ducimus
03-21-13, 05:10 PM
"You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
And then the nice policeman comes by with a piece of chalk and outlines you with your cheek to one side. :O:
Jimbuna
03-21-13, 05:22 PM
Good point :)
Tribesman
03-22-13, 12:32 AM
Bundy escaped from jail. Twice. And killed again while he was free.
Good point Steve.
However he wasn't convicted of murder then, so executing people convicted of murder wouldn't have worked there either.
Sailor Steve
03-22-13, 12:46 AM
Good point Steve.
However he wasn't convicted of murder then, so executing people convicted of murder wouldn't have worked there either.
That's true too. Sure, if he was locked up all these years he wouldn't have killed anybody, and his escapes were from courthouses and jails, not from an actual prison. On the other hand he confessed to more than 30 murders before his execution, so which would be better - keeping him contained or just getting rid of him?
As I said, I'm not sure of my own feelings on this half the time, and I can see the merits of both arguments.
Aramike
03-22-13, 03:24 AM
But if it was a deterrent then Bundy wouldn't have killed, if Bundys execution was a deterrent then he would have been the last serial killer.
How many women would Bundy have killed recently if he was locked up for life on conviction?A deterrant doesn't necessarily stop every instance of what's being deterred, though.
Tough drunk driving laws certainly deters some people from driving intoxicated. Still people do it.
In any case, ever see the film "Law Abiding Citizen"? I would totally be for this killer meeting someone like Gerard Butler's character.
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