SimCity: Land of Plenty

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, I'm getting this one. (http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/03/simcity_review_the_new_version_of_the_classic_game _is_totally_addictive.html) Sounds pretty good, and it has been a while since I played a sims game (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=152631). :)

Anyone want to be my neighbor? :shucks:

[reignofdeath]

I would like too but the always online is a turnoff for me... and they really crushed the size you could go on these cities. I want to be able to build a megatropolis, not a bustling town. But I wish you luck Neal! And please do post a review for us will you!? :up:

I will wait until reviews come in, and inevitable bugs are fixed.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, the online thing is no biggee for me, but no doubt there will be server issues for a few weeks. I see that the city sizes are smaller than before but I think the amount of micromanagement details that are available will make up for it: 30:40 and that is really appealing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KeHtlUf2M&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ&index=1) to me. I will know more after I play it.

[Dowly]

Gamers Line Up To Play SimCity… (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/05/gamers-line-up-to-play-simcity/)

Hey, want to play the freshly US-released SimCity? Well, stand in
line. As Total Biscuit reveals (video below), there are already 30 minute
queues. And this is just for those who’ve stayed up past midnight to be able
to play. In just one country.How's that always online DRM that will be cracked like the rest working for your legit customers EA? :roll:

[danlisa]

I am genuinely upset with SimCity 5. Probably my favourite genre of game being slowly dialed back in scope, functionality and witnessing EA pull the usual bitsize DLC rippoff game has pissed me off no end. :shifty:

http://i.imgur.com/vV8PLqv.jpg
Cr.Reddit

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm being kind of cowardly on this one and having a wait-and-see attitude. If the response from those who have played it is good, then I will jump in too. The always online DRM is not a problem, as I have FIOS and am always online anyway.

[Oberon]

I'm being kind of cowardly on this one and having a wait-and-see attitude. If the response from those who have played it is good, then I will jump in too. The always online DRM is not a problem, as I have FIOS and am always online anyway.

Same really, although I'm with danlisa in being disappointed that the area scale for construction is so small. I can see the point in having to play a more conservative game in being sure where to put things, but that counteracts the real life sprawl and central redevelopment of cities.

Still, we shall see, I'll be watching TBs review later, and doing some more reading. :hmm2:

[NeonSamurai]

I've been playing simcity since the original (2000 and 4 were my most favorites, I skipped societies). I don't think I will be going anywhere near this one.

I am so sick to death of these DRM schemes and pushing online stuff on a game that doesn't need to be online. I am frankly just about fed up with the entire gaming industry in general.

[Sailor Steve]

I loved the original SimCity. I played 2000 and was frustrated, mainly because I wasn't much good at it. I never got the later versions. This one looks really good, but that online thing is a true game-killer for me. They won't get my money.

On the other hand, maybe I'll pick up a cheap copy of CS4. :sunny:

[Red October1984]

Never played any of these games...

*takes cover from the posts to follow....* :timeout:

[Oberon]

Never played any of these games...

*takes cover from the posts to follow....* :timeout:

I'm in your thread, posting for absolutely no reason whatsoever. :shifty:

[Skybird]

I feel with Neon. These DRM schemes have not so much to do with fighting piracy, but to dry out the second hand market for games. You see the same with e-readers and e-books: to sell no right of possession but a limited licence to use only, is aimed against selling your used e-books on a second hand market.

In the US, a platform for used mp3 has opened some time ago. In Europe we lagg behind. However, both in Europe and the US court challenges aginst Amazon and others have been filed in a an attempt to upgrade the legal rights of consumers to actually own what they pay for. And in Germany, e_books are not even that much heaper than hardcopy books anyway (we have a so-called Buchpreisbindung here, hardcopy books must cost the same price in all shops over here).

On SC, I do not play it anymore, but the series is a great game. Played the original 25 years ago or so. Then SC2000 on playstation. Next SC3, SC3 Deutschland, and SC4 with Rush Hour. Loved it. Also love the soundtracks, I have them on CD, all of 3 and 4, and play them not that rarely on my HiFi or in the kitchen.

Charming games! :yeah:

[Arclight]

Played these games so much, lots of fond memories attached to the first one in particular (the NES version though, same base game but a little Nintendo flavor mixed in, Bowser thrashing your city as a disaster for example).

The idea of a new one was exiting at first... I'm just not happy with Origin. I got "forced" into Steam, which I've come to accept and even appreciate on some levels. But I don't need a clone of that; I don't see myself trying this as long as it comes with that restriction, especially with the latest reports of it having "a bit of a wobbly".

[AVGWarhawk]

My daughters love the Sims series. The spend more time constructing and furnishing the sim house than anything else.

[TheDude107]

I am genuinely upset with SimCity 5. Probably my favourite genre of game being slowly dialed back in scope, functionality and witnessing EA pull the usual bitsize DLC rippoff game has pissed me off no end. :shifty:


I agree. EA is a company that I have alot of complaints with on the PC and console side. On the PC side they ruin games when acting as publisher, always online is now always required, and they release games with DLC for sale on the first day. Like in the WTF review posted above.... They have a billboard on the main page that is a DLC link.... with DLC for sale on/before the release date.

The only plus side to this version of Sim City, in my eyes, is the ability to play online with others and manage cities together. That said.... I know nobody that would actually be interested in doing that all the time, outside one clanmate. So our city would just go downhill. I'd like to manage a huge city and manage the regions like in old versions and without DRM.

[NeonSamurai]

I loved the original SimCity. I played 2000 and was frustrated, mainly because I wasn't much good at it. I never got the later versions. This one looks really good, but that online thing is a true game-killer for me. They won't get my money.

On the other hand, maybe I'll pick up a cheap copy of CS4. :sunny:
SC4 deluxe edition is certainly worth it.

[mookiemookie]

This Ars Technica "review" single handedly scared me away from this one. I will be waiting a long time to pick this one up:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/simcity-impressions-we-waited-ten-years-for-this/

[Skybird]

This Ars Technica "review" single handedly scared me away from this one. I will be waiting a long time to pick this one up:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/simcity-impressions-we-waited-ten-years-for-this/
That's not encouraging. The size limit is what would have killed this for me, if the DRM wouldn'T already had acchieved that.

But I am now in the mood to reinstall SC4, get those two W7 patches I read about, and start building a really big city. :yeah:

[HunterICX]

It already killed my interest as soon I heard EA was involved.

HunterICX

[Onkel Neal]

I feel like Columbus :)

The region "Land of Plenty" is now open. The region appears to be fertile ground, no indigenous peoples to bother relocating.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6420

No wolves or deer, either. As an old Age of Empires player, I keep expecting animal attacks.

I have singlehandedly broken ground on Subsim City. I have declared myself mayor, and I get to make ALL the decisions.


First decision: to put my industrial section way over to the west, because the wind is blowing east to west, and this way I won't hear grousing about "air pollution".
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6422


My residential area starts near the main highway, and I have a commercial area off close to the mountains. I'm all about zoning.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6421

There are two town areas on either side of me. I hope to have my town in the Iron Age and have a huge army of chariots ready to attack before they have running water.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6427


Right way, I want to start building really wide, 4-lane roads, so the traffic won't plug up like it does here in Pearland. I know there are going to be hordes of people wanting to live, work, and shop in Subsim City, and I don't want traffic issues.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6425
Scooters? Ok, where's the Ordinance mod?? :shifty:

Then I learn that I cannot afford to build expressways in my town, my cheap peasants won't chip in the dough. All right, fine. Single lane roads with stop signs. We can upgrade later, but I have a feeling some houses may get demolished. And there's the traffic, just as I feared.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6423

Well, they are going to have to wait. In Subsim City, taxes are low. And that means the city is not interfering with the freedom of the citizens to sit in traffic. I considered building mass transit, but who can afford it?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6424


Yeah, that's not going to fly. So I build my first oil well to raise revenue, and as mayor, the oil barons will be treating me to steak as often as I like.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6426

And then tragedy strikes! OMG, the donut bag factory gets torched.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6428

Thankfully, Subsim City does not have a police force yet, so it is not really missed. I leave the shell of the building for the homeless. It will be good to have them congregate in one place so my new Subsim City Stormtroopers will know where to find them.:arrgh!:

[Takeda Shingen]

Oh cool, I was hoping that you were going to do this, Neal.

[Singed]

No! Not the donut bag factory, how will I get my Shipley's home?

Seriously, the always on DRM made me say no, just like it did on SH5.

[Platapus]

Scooters? Ok, where's the Ordinance mod?? :shifty:



Ordinance mod or ordnance mod?

Jus wonderin if it was a typo.

:D

[Onkel Neal]

Ordinance mod or ordnance mod?

Jus wonderin if it was a typo.

:D


Haha, Freudian slip, I bet.

Well, Subsim City has been growing and growing. I am still the Mayor, betch. I have added hospitals, police stations, fire stations, a water filtration plant, a ferry terminal, upgraded a lot of roads... and I have derricks on every patch of oil.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6431


Unfortunately, as I am new to the game, I did not check the geological maps before planning some of the neighborhoods. So, in the name of progress and cheap oil, some residents had to be relocated.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6433

I expected a wave of protests, and I got them, but over germs? Yeah, whatever that means.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6435
Notice, I have Samuel Jackson standing at the entrance to City Hall.

Nevermind, my approval rating it 76%. Those hippies can bite me.
I bring in extra police and search the user manual for Crackdown Mode...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6434

One of the things I like about this game: as you grow and your city thrives as a great place to live, businesses will erect nice new buildings, bigger and better. One of my first multi-story buildings.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6436

One of the things about the game I don't like, it seems to push you into packing more people into the city in a never ending quest for growth. I'm of the school that towns should not be crowded. But, since this is a game, and since none of my neighbors has attacked me yet, I thought I would see what I could do about maxing out my resident meter.

So, I go through the town and rezone some areas for residents (green) in place of industrial (yellow).
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6432

I even resort to zoning the sides of the expressway residential. Gah, it looks terrible, trailer houses next to the expressway where tourists will see my town.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6429

It is true, the cities have limits to how large they can grow. It has been a long time since I played a Sim City game, I really don't remember how large they were before, but I am hoping there will be some DLC pack in the future that allows for larger cities. Even so, I suppose with all the stuff that the game is doing under the hood (there are hundreds of systems running), there has to be a limit. If a city fills up, meh, time to start a new city.

I have a neighbor who I admire very much, he is starting a new town and I will help him by directing all my low income citizens his way.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6437

To encourage them, I jack residential taxes up to the sky. Very quickly, some of my citizens break bad.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6430

I have another neighbor, she has a nearby town in the region Land of Plenty. She has been working with me to share services. She's very nice, and messages me. If anyone here has an account with Origin/EA, my username is SUBSIM and there is room for you in the Land of Plenty.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6438




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[Dowly]

I'd love to get this game, I really would. Watching some let's plays, I see there
are a ton of very nice improvements they have added. BUT, the small scale is
too big of a minus. :nope:

Maybe if they lower the price enough (doubt it) in the future, but not going to
pay 60 euros for it.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, we have to make our buying decisions carefully.

So, this thread is mainly about people who may be playing the game, and if you are, friend me, as previously mentioned. Let's get the Land of Plenty region filled out and set up shop.

[Lord_magerius]

Do not despair fellow lovers of the good Simcity games, a knight in shining armour has appeared on the horizon. All he asks is for a little donation to come and rescue you.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1584821767/civitas-plan-develop-and-manage-the-city-of-your-d

[NeonSamurai]

That's not encouraging. The size limit is what would have killed this for me, if the DRM wouldn'T already had acchieved that.

But I am now in the mood to reinstall SC4, get those two W7 patches I read about, and start building a really big city. :yeah:

What patches are those?

[Spike88]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1584821767/civitas-plan-develop-and-manage-the-city-of-your-d

Indie sim city game thing.

[Lord_magerius]

You might want to look two posts above yourself there Spike :O:
But seriously this indie version needs a lot of support so Kudos for posting it again :D

No that is not sarcasm, before anyone says anything :salute:

[Spike88]

You might want to look two posts above yourself there Spike :O:
But seriously this indie version needs a lot of support so Kudos for posting it again :D

No that is not sarcasm, before anyone says anything :salute:

Sorry, was on my iphone, I hadn't seen it.

[mookiemookie]

Amazon has temporarily stopped offering digital purchases of SimCity, a move that's no doubt related to server-side issues which have plagued the game since its launch early this week. EA says it's working around the clock to patch up those problems, but in the meantime Amazon has cut off digital orders.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/7/4076104/amazon-stops-simcity-digital-orders-customer-complaints

Sorry Neal. I'd love to be your neighbor but this one is just not gonna get my cash for a full price buy.

[the_tyrant]

You know what, I love online MMOs and what not, but Sim City is the classic example of why the technology is simply not there yet.

I am almost 100% sure that the current technology simply does not allow us to fully bring our gaming online, "to the cloud".


For a major blockbuster game like sim city (guaranteed to sell really), the servers are definitely top notch. But than, even with the top notch servers and networking capabilities, the game is still brought down to its knees.

In fact, when was the last major MMO launch without any server issues? This happens to almost every online focused PC game. Remember Diablo 3?


I applaud the developers for trying, but good luck next time!


PS, I am 100% getting this game, I'll just wait until after launch week......


PPS: Now I'm pretty sure why the city sizes were limited, with no option for extra large

[reignofdeath]

Im definately not getting this for a while, after reading some reviews and other forums, there are a lot of ticked off people. EA it seems has ruined and forced another buggy game for a great series.

[danlisa]

What are EA doing? They must really have their heads up their collective a$$es.

They have instructed all of their 'partners' to cease active advertising of SimCity. What exactly is that going to achieve?

It's beyond idiotic, attempting to damage control this situation is not going to do EA or Maxis any favours and I can only assume the removal of advertising is an attempt to do two things, first is to lessen the potential impact of refunds, then second must be a kackhanded attempt to manage server load.:doh:

They have a simple solution to this whole debacle that would see sales up and consumer confidence being repaired somewhat.

Patch out the server side management and enable offline single player. Easy as that.

I initially laid this all at EAs door but it actually seems as if Maxis deliberately built SC5 this way. Why do such a thing?

[Onkel Neal]

Yesterday was inventory at my cycle shop, so I did not have time to manage my city (17 HOURS of counting sprockets, helmets, and about 34 million gloves and boot). So, after a few hours of sleep, I check the Subsim community and then off to the world of SimCity.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6480

No sooner than I walk out of the Mayor's mansion, part of my town is hit by an earthquake!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6481

Well, the damage wasn't too bad, and none of my precious oil wells were hurt... oh, wait, yeah, looks like I lost a couple rigs. :( Alas. I've been thinking of switching over to solar anyway--you should see the pollution level that's beginning to bloom :(


I see my neighbor Ivory has also been besieged by a natural disaster--meteors! It looks like she has left Whitewater Crossing. :( Now I'm all alone. Except for that handsome devil on the next town, Torpedo Ally. :O:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6438



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I go over to my other town, Torpedo Ally (or is that Alley?). Whee-doggie! Looks like this town is really growing, thanks to a healthy infusion of cash from Subsim City. The roads are all high density with street cars, there's plenty of commercial and industrial opportunities. Yes, there is a lot of traffic, but that's due to all the moving vans bringing new residents. Everyone loves Torpedo Ally. :rock:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6483



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Due to low taxes, the police department is understaffed. But I believe in humanity, everyone here is imbued with hope and good will, no one will abuse the trust of their community, right?

Wrong, I get a crime alert and check my map...
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6484



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Oh, this is just too much.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6485


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When I woke up this afternoon, I was in such a good mood. Who is this jerk?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6486


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Lefty Guns Tran? What kinda name is that? I decide to follow this dope to his crib. When he parks his car, I show the town I take crime seriously. There are other ways than the po-lice to deal with scum. Boom! Now he's homeless :haha:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6487


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[Onkel Neal]

One of the trickiest aspects of managing a city is producing enough revenues to provide services such as education, police, fire, hospitals, and mass transit. If the game would allow it, I would set the transit rates so that they were self-sufficient.

To reap enough taxes without raising them so high that people leave the city, it is necessary to increase population density, aka apartment and comdos. Next to barking dogs, I detest masses of apartments. But, you have to do what you have to do, so houses come down to make way for apartments.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6489

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I built an arena, so I can host events like motorcross (cool), basketball games, and concerts. The city has to invest $$ to have the event, and provided that sufficient people attend the event, the city can profit. My goal is to get events going and bring in enough $$ to lower taxes way down.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6490

I was going to post more but something really weird happened... I noticed sunlight coming through my office window... and realized with a shock, hey, isn't today Saturday? I think I was supposed to be at the cycle shop at 9... :o

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[Biggles]

I was going to post more but something really weird happened... I noticed sunlight coming through my office window... and realized with a shock, hey, isn't today Saturday? I think I was supposed to be at the cycle shop at 9... :o

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Yeah, typical EA to release games with bugs and glitches such as these ones! :-?

[Takeda Shingen]

Yeah, typical EA to release games with bugs and glitches such as these ones! :-?

I think that Neal was referring to the fact that he stayed up all night playing. Sometimes you've just got to chill out and let people enjoy their game.

[Oberon]

I think that Neal was referring to the fact that he stayed up all night playing. Sometimes you've just got to chill out and let people enjoy their game.

I think Biggles was joking. :03: Saying that 'one more turn' is a bug :03:

[VirtualVikingX]

Hehe. "Right back at'ya!"

[Takeda Shingen]

I think Biggles was joking. :03: Saying that 'one more turn' is a bug :03:

Alright, sorry about that. I'll shut up.

[Skybird]

Just look at www.amazon.com

Thousands of 1-star ratings already, and the comments...

Meta Critic: 1.5 of 10 points.

The mother of all perfect sh!t storms.

:har:

Great show, EA. You even entertain people not spending money on you! :yeah:

They now give away one free game to compensate dissatisfied customers, I read. If they really want to limit the brown flood before they drown in it, they can only release a patch that switches off that online thing, if people do not want to play online - there only real chance to save what is left to be saved. The game is pretty much sunk already. The damage to the already disastrous reputation of their DRM scheme cannot be calculated. They already have lost many customers on other future game releases of theirs, I think.

[Onkel Neal]

I've played 26 hours since Tuesday, which is a helluva lot for me these days. I did not play at all Thursday due to work commitments. I did experience "No Server Available once and "Sever Disconnected" a couple times--one time it reconnected, one time the game dropped. Yeah, EA has some catch up to do with their infrastructure, but this kind of thing doesn't fill me with the mortal nerd rage it does 99% of the rest of the world. :O: I can always read a book, or ride my motorcycle. EA will get it sorted.

[Skybird]

Yeah, EA has some catch up to do with their infrastructure, but this kind of thing doesn't fill me with the mortal nerd rage it does 99% of the rest of the world. :O: I can always read a book, or ride my motorcycle. EA will get it sorted.

Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

:D Sorry, couldn't resist, I just finished watching "Skyfall" this evening.

If you enjoy the game, then of course the better for you.:up:

[Biggles]

I think that Neal was referring to the fact that he stayed up all night playing. Sometimes you've just got to chill out and let people enjoy their game.

Joking I was :salute: I've also done an allnighter with this game, it truly is addicting!

[Arclight]

From what I've read there's nothing wrong with the game, it's rather good in fact.

But still, EA, Origin, "forced" multiplayer...


You make it very tempting, Neal. Maybe if I can get over myself in the future, I'd really like to give this a go. :yep:

[Feuer Frei!]

Electronic Arts has made an announcement yesterday regarding SimCity’s current state, and although the company avoided to discuss whether it will remove its always-online DRM system, the big publisher revealed that all SimCity owners – who have suffered from those infamous server issues – will get a free PC game on March 18th.

SOURCE (http://www.dsogaming.com/news/electronic-arts-will-give-out-a-free-pc-game-to-all-simcity-owners/#more-45552)

[Onkel Neal]

I like free games. :)

Biggles, let's team up on the same server. I have been playing on the Europe East 2 server. Friend me: SUBSIM and let's get a region started. I've pretty much maxed out my current two cities, I'm ready to start over. :shucks:

[Red October1984]

I like free games. :)

You should try out the MegaMek Open Source version of BattleTech.

Me and Raptor1 have been playing it for a while now. He taught me how to play. The game is free and it's awesome. Once you understand how to play, you will like it.


(Just to drop in a suggestion...) :smug:

[Oberon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVl8vfev4L8

[Red October1984]

So does Subsim City have any tourist attractions that are worth seeing? :)

[Oberon]

I guess one could always visit the giant memorial to EAs servers... :O:

(Sorry, couldn't resist that one...)

[Onkel Neal]

EA. ha ha, I can't imagine what it must be like there now :haha:

Subsim City is mostly a blue collar town, with oil fields and fried chicken. Neighboring city Torpedo Ally has several historic landmarks, such as the Washington Monument, some kind of fancy Euro arch of tridents or something, and a Shakespearean theater. Plus motocross. Seriously, look at the traffic coming in before the event.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6497

Torpedo Ally is a tourist town, so I had to build a train station, a ferry dock, and streetcars to ensure the incoming people would be able to get to the events.
I built an airport, right next to the wind turbine farm, because the city is pretty jam packed. But my pilots are first rate, they can make it through the whirling blades. And the passengers love it!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6496


Torpedo Ally is very eco-friendly, with wind, and solar, and that other power source Obama mentions but no one really understands, thermal. But believe me, non-carbon energy sources are really expensive and have low-yields. The headaches and expense aren't worth it-- even with great approval ratings, there's always some dopes protesting at city hall.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6498

Well, as my luck would have it, the town outgrew the wind farm, and Subsim City stopped selling me power, just as I invested $60,000 to get U2 to play at the arena. So, the power went out, which shut down water, and the event was cancelled. I lost my $60K and had to raise taxes to 14% and shut down the schools :( This caused people to move out en masse, tearing up the roads and wiping out my tax base. In nothing flat, my favorite skyscraper was a hobo high rise
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=762&pictureid=6495

I tried to find a "stripper on every street corner mod" to keep the people from moving, no luck. I had to float a $100 bond, and it took me weeks to get the city back in the black. Yeah, Simcity is a lot like real life. Notice how EA screwed up and did not have enough server stuff to get the game running smoothly at the start (dumb) and people came unglued--seriously, there's a lot pf passion out there for a computer game. I wanted to stand in the middle of my Sim city and shout, "Chill, people, we'll get the power back on soon. Hey, you wanted green... " :)

What this game really needs is tanks and drones!

Wow, the game is pretty complex. And I like how you kind of have to figure out where you went wrong. The game has plenty of alert and pop up help, but in many ways, you test your economic and social theories to the limit in the game.

[TorpX]

The game has plenty of alert and pop up help, but in many ways, you test your economic and social theories to the limit in the game.
I have to ask; what would happen if you built a nuclear plant and told the greens to stuff it?

[Red October1984]

What this game really needs is tanks and drones!


That'd be my SimCity.....

Heck, I'd have SimMilitaryBase.... :)

[Oberon]

I have to ask; what would happen if you built a nuclear plant and told the greens to stuff it?



Greenpeace would happen

http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/files/images/nuclear/reactors/sizewell76.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

I have to ask; what would happen if you built a nuclear plant and told the greens to stuff it?


If you decide to build nuke reactors, be very sure you have a high education level among your population... or expect a meltdown at some point.

[TorpX]

I was wondering if the greens' dissatisfaction, might reach the level of prolonged protests, vandalism, riots and major civil unrest; but yeah, a meltdown would be bad, too. :/\\x:

[Red October1984]

If you decide to build nuke reactors, be very sure you have a high education level among your population... or expect a meltdown at some point.

Soooooooo can we see an example of that?

I like explosions.... :)

[Oberon]

Soooooooo can we see an example of that?

I like explosions.... :)


It's nothing special, but then again in real life meltdowns aren't full of massive explosions (just a few steam explosions if you're unlucky) and certainly no mushroom clouds...however, here is Totalbiscuit discovering that his nuclear power plant is being operated by Homer Simpson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7-KeHtlUf2M#t=2620s

[Onkel Neal]

Update: I've changed servers, so Land of Plenty can now be found on server North America West 4. Join me and let's prepare for Godzilla. :shucks:

[TheDude107]

And in Germany, e_books are not even that much heaper than hardcopy books anyway (we have a so-called Buchpreisbindung here, hardcopy books must cost the same price in all shops over here).



I just looked up the Buchpreisbindung law(?) and it seems interesting that the books have to be the same price at different stores. I couldn't find out if the law applied to all books though....

For example, is every type of book priced at the same price? That seems like it would be impossible. For example, does "War and Peace" cost the same as "Tales of the Arabian Nights"?

Or is it that "Tales of the Arabian Nights" must cost the same at every store across Germany? That makes a bit more sense. :06:

[Task Force]

It's nothing special, but then again in real life meltdowns aren't full of massive explosions (just a few steam explosions if you're unlucky) and certainly no mushroom clouds...however, here is Totalbiscuit discovering that his nuclear power plant is being operated by Homer Simpson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7-KeHtlUf2M#t=2620s

Hmm... unskilled workers make nuclear meltdowns... If I ever got this game Id have to name my city Simnobyl.
My question is, does someone who builds a failing crap city drag down other near by players?

[reignofdeath]

Hmm... unskilled workers make nuclear meltdowns... If I ever got this game Id have to name my city Simnobyl.
My question is, does someone who builds a failing crap city drag down other near by players?

I would assume so with pollution and crime funneling over into other cities. As well as an influx of unemployed workers.

[Task Force]

Hmm, I could see Troll cites being a issue if the region server thing is public.

[mookiemookie]

I thought this gif was a nice metaphor for the current situation with EA and the release of SimCity:

http://i.imgur.com/IqXkq7Z.gif

[Takeda Shingen]

I thought this gif was a nice metaphor for the current situation with EA and the release of SimCity:

http://i.imgur.com/IqXkq7Z.gif

I love everyone casually going about their daily routines while buildings explode.

[Onkel Neal]

Hmm, I could see Troll cites being a issue if the region server thing is public.


Yeah, looks like it does affect other towns...:hmmm: all we need now is a mod that allows us to raise Sim armies and.... :D

[HunterICX]

all we need now is a mod that allows us to raise Sim armies and.... :D

:nope: Bloody yanks....

HunterICX

[Miggy4000]

I loved Sim City 2000. Have the Mac, PC & Amiga versions. 3000 & 4 were good too. Is the fifth game that much of an improvement over the older versions?

Some (http://forums.frontier.co.uk/showpost.php?p=92156&postcount=4)on the Frontier Forum don't seem to believe so. :)

[Oberon]

:haha: Niiice

Meanwhile in the ongoing Simcity debacle (which is almost as entertaining to watch as the game):

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/16/simcity-modder-tells-us-offline-regional-play-easily-done/#more-146044

No major surprises there really, the best we can hope for is mods and other...methods...I suspect in the future, because I can't see EA changing their stance.

EDIT: And now EAs boss has stood down:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/ea-ceo-john-riccitiello-has-stepped-down/

[mookiemookie]

The first DLC for SimCity is out: The Nissan LEAF Charging Station. The first DLC is an advertisement you can put in your game. :har:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-03-the-first-simcity-dlc-is-the-nissan-leaf-charging-station

Oh, EA.

[reignofdeath]

The first DLC for SimCity is out: The Nissan LEAF Charging Station. The first DLC is an advertisement you can put in your game. :har:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-03-the-first-simcity-dlc-is-the-nissan-leaf-charging-station

Oh, EA.

I feel like those running EA have an extremely low IQ right now.. Don't they get they are just making people angrier and angrier?:hmm2: