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Jimbuna
03-03-13, 12:14 PM
I know the French haven't lost anywhere near the number of personnel the US or Britain has in recent military operations abroad but this is their third since going into Mali almost alone...and three too many.
~SALUTE~
A French soldier has been killed fighting Islamist militants in northern Mali, the French government says.
He is the third French serviceman to die since the start of military intervention in January.
The paratrooper was killed on Saturday "assaulting an enemy position" in the Adrar des Ifoghas mountains.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21648498
Herr-Berbunch
03-03-13, 12:42 PM
Who would have thought the French would be showing the rest of the world how to kick terrorists' arses! As far as I can tell no embassies or wedding parties have been attacked, not any quarter given - I'm seriously impressed and may have to rethink my stereotyping of them.
Three is definitely three too many.
Sailor Steve
03-03-13, 12:46 PM
I'm seriously impressed and may have to rethink my stereotyping of them.
I've always loved the French "surrender" jokes, but I've never fallen for the stereotype. It's easy to point out the times that French politicians have surrendered, leaving the French soldiers and people hanging out to dry.
The French are cool. :sunny:
CaptainMattJ.
03-03-13, 02:07 PM
I've always loved the French "surrender" jokes, but I've never fallen for the stereotype. It's easy to point out the times that French politicians have surrendered, leaving the French soldiers and people hanging out to dry.
The French are cool. :sunny:
Absolutely agree. The French have a very long history of being hardcore and fantastic fighters.
The settlers in france helped sack the Romans, and for hundreds of years have taught the British a thing or two about getting whooped, even if the french never did successfully invade the isles. The french damn near conquered europe with napoleon, and played a critical role in America's independence, and did the bear's share of the fighting (and dying) in western europe in WW1. In WW2, not only the french, but the british as well were caught completely by surprise with not only the location of the spearhead into france, but the speed and ferocity. Neither country could respond fast enough nor organize fast enough to keep from getting surrounded, and subsequently were forced to retreat across the channel or risk the loss of hundreds of thousands of troops. It was the only sensible thing to do really, surrender, as the french had no chance of winning after dunkirk against the germans, and continued open resistance would most likely result in unnecessary death and destruction, so france surrendered.
It wasn't surprising to me when the french started to show their potential in Mali. The french not only have an extremely capable military, but they also have the third largest out of all western European countries (300,000 active and reservist personnel), making them a potent fighting force.
Jimbuna
03-03-13, 02:43 PM
Absolutely agree. The French have a very long history of being hardcore and fantastic fighters.
The settlers in france helped sack the Romans, and for hundreds of years have taught the British a thing or two about getting whooped, even if the french never did successfully invade the isles. The french damn near conquered europe with napoleon, and played a critical role in America's independence, and did the bear's share of the fighting (and dying) in western europe in WW1. In WW2, not only the french, but the british as well were caught completely by surprise with not only the location of the spearhead into france, but the speed and ferocity. Neither country could respond fast enough nor organize fast enough to keep from getting surrounded, and subsequently were forced to retreat across the channel or risk the loss of hundreds of thousands of troops. It was the only sensible thing to do really, surrender, as the french had no chance of winning after dunkirk against the germans, and continued open resistance would most likely result in unnecessary death and destruction, so france surrendered.
It wasn't surprising to me when the french started to show their potential in Mali. The french not only have an extremely capable military, but they also have the third largest out of all western European countries (300,000 active and reservist personnel), making them a potent fighting force.
Some interesting and some might say flawed points when referring to hostilities between Britain and France.....but that should be the basis for another thread.
I trust we can stay on topic here.
CaptainMattJ.
03-03-13, 04:12 PM
Some interesting and some might say flawed points when referring to hostilities between Britain and France.....but that should be the basis for another thread.
I trust we can stay on topic here.
Well, not to say that the british didnt have a multitude of their own victories, i think i may have worded it poorly, but both saw victories against the other.
Jimbuna
03-03-13, 05:04 PM
A matter of personal opinion....we move on :cool:
Herr-Berbunch
03-03-13, 05:14 PM
A matter of personal opinion....we move on :cool:
Well William conquered, we'll give 'em that one. :03:
Back to the French in Mali . . .
Jimbuna
03-03-13, 05:16 PM
Well William conquered, we'll give 'em that one. :03:
Back to the French in Mali . . .
Precisely :yep:
Madox58
03-03-13, 06:02 PM
He was a ParaTrooper.
:nope:
Anyone know which Unit he belonged too?
Anyone know which Unit he belonged too?
1st Parachute Chasseur Regiment, I believe.
A terrible shame, the French are, despite the online reputation, fantastic warriors, and if they have had any failings, they are usually traced to their high command (particularly circa 1940) rather than a lack of fighting spirit.
RIP braver soldat
Madox58
03-03-13, 07:17 PM
1st Parachute Chasseur Regiment, I believe.
Thanks Dowly.
I see the 2e Régiment Etranger Parachutiste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Foreign_Parachute_Regiment) are there also.
That's what I planned on going to after leaveing the U.S. service.
Never did join up and kind of regret that.
em2nought
03-03-13, 07:46 PM
Thanks Dowly.
I see the 2e Régiment Etranger Parachutiste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Foreign_Parachute_Regiment) are there also.
That's what I planned on going to after leaveing the U.S. service.
Never did join up and kind of regret that.
Should have taken the handle "Beau Geste". :D
Stealhead
03-03-13, 07:58 PM
Thanks Dowly.
I see the 2e Régiment Etranger Parachutiste (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Foreign_Parachute_Regiment) are there also.
That's what I planned on going to after leaveing the U.S. service.
Never did join up and kind of regret that.
Dowly is right he was a member of 1st Parachute Chasseur Regiment in French it is called "1er régiment de chasseurs parachutistes"(1er RCP)He had also fought in Afghanistan.
http://lemamouth.blogspot.com/2013/03/in-memoriam-cpl-cedric-charenton-1er-rcp.html
I wonder how many Americans are in the 2eREP of the Foreign Legion? I read in an old article about them from around 2000 there where 55 Americans at that time.
One thing is sure if you had joined up with them Privateer you'd have learned French very quickly though from what I understand they mainly teach you military terms so your normal French speaking would have been average at best.
HundertzehnGustav
03-04-13, 04:33 AM
It kind of surprised me as well this action, or rather reaction to unfolding events.
I think it is a good idea to show where the line has been crossed. I hope the civilian and genuinely peaceful people can get on with their lives and not suffer much.
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