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Skybird
02-08-13, 05:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21389094

"Terrorized", claims the one. 50 children, has the other. 15 years, says the judge.

:timeout:

I do not know who deserves the prize for showing the greatest insanity in all this.

frau kaleun
02-08-13, 06:08 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21389094

"Terrorized", claims the one. 50 children, has the other. 15 years, says the judge.

:timeout:

I do not know who deserves the prize for showing the greatest insanity in all this.

Unless there's a typo in that article, the 50 children belong to the defendantS, plural, not one defendant. :)

Also, if they actually did what they were accused of doing, it was not simply a matter of shaving someone's beard or cutting someone's hair. It was PHYSICAL ASSAULT. You put your hands on me without my consent, hold me down, restrain me against my will, in order to do things to me that I don't want done - well, I don't care what those things are, that's irrelevant. The crime is in forcing them on someone who is unwilling to undergo them. And given that all of this appears to have been done as a part of a "campaign" to enforce one person's will on other unwilling people, I got no problem with the person responsible getting a 15 year sentence.

Buddahaid
02-08-13, 06:28 PM
All this while other people serve less time for manslaughter. Crazy.

Skybird
02-08-13, 07:05 PM
All this while other people serve less time for manslaughter. Crazy.
^ Exactly. Same or lesser punishments for worse crimes, that was my first thought.

Takeda Shingen
02-08-13, 07:19 PM
Unless there's a typo in that article, the 50 children belong to the defendantS, plural, not one defendant. :)

Also, if they actually did what they were accused of doing, it was not simply a matter of shaving someone's beard or cutting someone's hair. It was PHYSICAL ASSAULT. You put your hands on me without my consent, hold me down, restrain me against my will, in order to do things to me that I don't want done - well, I don't care what those things are, that's irrelevant. The crime is in forcing them on someone who is unwilling to undergo them. And given that all of this appears to have been done as a part of a "campaign" to enforce one person's will on other unwilling people, I got no problem with the person responsible getting a 15 year sentence.

I agree. This problem goes deeper than hair cutting. Sentence well deserved.

Tribesman
02-09-13, 04:38 AM
15 years for the organiser of a campaign of religiously inspired violence, seems appropriate.
I wonder how many years Skybird would be calling for if it was someone from his favourite religion organising the attacks?
I kind of get the feeling he probably would be calling 15 years too lenient.


All this while other people serve less time for manslaughter. Crazy.

How do you organise a campaign of manslaughter?

HundertzehnGustav
02-09-13, 05:46 AM
"war" ?:D

Jimbuna
02-09-13, 06:58 AM
Well I suppose he was aptly named Samuel Mullet :hmm2:

Armistead
02-09-13, 10:20 AM
15 years for the organiser of a campaign of religiously inspired violence, seems appropriate.
I wonder how many years Skybird would be calling for if it was someone from his favourite religion organising the attacks?
I kind of get the feeling he probably would be calling 15 years too lenient.


How do you organise a campaign of manslaughter?

Most religions use shame, guilt and fear of hell fire to control people. I think it will be an interesting future for religions that open their doors to the public and then spew hate, rasicm, etc., with so many new hate crime laws coming. Seems I read a few gay groups were gonna put it to the test by walking into more fundy US churches, but guess nothing came of it.

I do know good music went out with the mullet....

Buddahaid
02-09-13, 12:14 PM
15 years for the organiser of a campaign of religiously inspired violence, seems appropriate.
I wonder how many years Skybird would be calling for if it was someone from his favourite religion organising the attacks?
I kind of get the feeling he probably would be calling 15 years too lenient.


How do you organise a campaign of manslaughter?

One doesn't of course. I just think it's a more serious crime.