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Stealhead
02-02-13, 03:43 AM
Military as far as i can tell is not very much about martial arts.
In some cases one is thought some nasty offensive and defensive moves to be used in tight situations to resolve the issue quickly with full determination....and that's it.
Also helpful for those that never in their lives had some serious fights and joined the military.

There is no time for years and years of training with martial arts and it would be pointless.

Actually your quite wrong on this one many armed forces do in fact use martial arts a good example is the Marine Corps they have the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program.(MCMAP) you can read more about it here. The Israeli Defense Force has Krav Maga the Soviet Union/Russia has Systemia i could go on and on.

Also elite forces do in fact train very heavily in various forms of martial arts very extensively much more so the the standard far that is taught to everyone.

There is a very important difference between the things a military force might teach and focus on rather than a traditional martial art.A solider or member of an elite force their job is to kill the most likely form of combat they are likely to face is hand to hand combat where they or the other person is trying to get the other down on the ground in order to gain control and kill the other by what ever means is available if just the hands and arms are available then they are going to strike the person in the face until they expire or strangle the person.

My father once got into a hand to hand combat situation in Vietnam the person was so close to him that he attempted to strike the person in the face with his rifle but he man saw this and tackled my father before he could strike his rifle got knocked away and enemy pulled out a knife they fought over the knife my father got the knife and stabbed the person but they kept fighting anyway and where trying to gouge my fathers eyes out.Finally my father managed to strangle the enemy solider to death.Sorry to be so blunt but that is what a person in combat faces when it gets up close and personal.It is much different than sparing even if its full contact its much different than a street fight as these rarely actually end in death.

For a civilian martial arts are much more about a life style(or it is supposed to be) and are mainly there to instill a certain discipline in a person most actions a martial artist performs are a way to show to others of that same art their level of skill and dedication to the art.

MH
02-02-13, 03:47 AM
Actually your quite wrong on this one many armed forces do in fact use martial arts a good example is the Marine Corps they have the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program.(MCMAP) you can read more about it here. The Israeli Defense Force has Krav Maga the Soviet Union/Russia has Systemia i could go on and on.

Also elite forces do in fact train very heavily in various forms of martial arts very extensively much more so the the standard far that is taught to everyone.

....again it is mostly about specific tight situation that need to be resolved with full determination.
Actually that what is krav maga all about.
It has nothing to do with the way martial arts are thought in civilian life ....i mean the military style.
It give an edge against next guy you meet but not necessary one that knows what he is doing.

August
02-02-13, 09:07 AM
I was taught to use what I know defensively; something to which I adhere.

You better use it defensively or you'll go to prison for a long time. The courts take a dim view of those with martial arts training attacking others.

Takeda Shingen
02-02-13, 09:44 AM
You better use it defensively or you'll go to prison for a long time. The courts take a dim view of those with martial arts training attacking others.

Yes. And birds go tweet.

Takeda Shingen
02-02-13, 10:03 AM
Did I say that the former SEAL picked the fight? He did not he merely kept the other person from harming him he was actually trying to walk away as best he could with someone pressing into him.

Did I say that he picked the fight? I said that it was unlikely that a martial artist is going to pick a fight with a guy because he bumped into him. As such, we're probably not going to know the answer to the question I asked.

As for the rest, I have had to use what I know only once. It was very quick and done, without a single blow being landed. I was fortunate for what I knew, as I would have been seriously injured without it. That being said, I do not think my chances of 'encountering' anyone are very high. I can't remember the last time that I saw a street fight, let alone have someone be physically belligerent. Verbally belligerent is a different matter, but I always choose to walk away. Aggression is a poor problem solver.