Armstrong to admit to doping

[Armistead]

News reporting Lance Armstrong will admit to doping to Oprah. In doing so, he opens himself to many legal actions..

[BossMark]

Two words

Cheating bastard :yep:

[gimpy117]

and they know this how?

[Jimbuna]

Would be interested in a link.

[eddie]

Here you go-

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/11/lance-armstrong-oprah-interview/1828311/

[Jimbuna]

Cheers...looking forward to any developments with interest :cool:

[soopaman2]

and they know this how?

This was my feeling for a long time.

But he makes zero effort to fight it after all this time.

They have something on him, he feels if he concedes now, something even nastier will not come out.

I seen Barry Bonds put up more of a fight than him, and everyone knows Barry was doper. Someone has something on Lance, and is ruining him.

Not saying he was not wrong, just saying that I do not think Lance was the only doper, he just peeved the wrong folks somewhere along the line.

My humble opinion, just guessing.

Nothing is ever simple.

[HundertzehnGustav]

"he wants to get back in the biathlon" was the credo back here a few days ago.
and in order to get that possibility, he has to come clean somehow.
Not that i care much.
Once a cheater...

[RickC Sniper]

This was my feeling for a long time.

But he makes zero effort to fight it after all this time.



He has fought doping allegations since his first Tour win.

The only evidence against him is accusation by others.

But he has been stripped of his titles and banned.

He is doing this in the hope he can compete again. He doesn't have any other options except retirement, and obviously he doesn't want to do that yet.

I do believe he doped and cheated.........just like every other cyclist he was trying to beat. It is the most corrupt sport in the history of sport.
I blame him not.

[soopaman2]

I am in the opinion he did cheat HundertzehnGustav.

I just never seen any proof outside of his own unwillingness to fight the accusations.

The baseball dopers put up a better fight than this, and they stood before congress and lied (imho)

What do they have on Lance? He won't fight it, yet won't admit to it.

Can be attributed to ego I am sure, but the lack of proof on one side or the other is cause for alarm.

Me personally? Did Lance juice up? (IMHO?)


I think he did, but did anyone he competed against juice up? I think they did too. This is as tainted as baseball is now in America. How many did we induct this year (hall of fame)? And why oh why were the homerun champs not inducted first ballot?

We know what they are, and the age we sadly live in.

[RickC Sniper]

What do they have on Lance? He won't fight it




He has fought doping allegations since his first Tour win. He fought it right up to the day his titles were stripped.

[HundertzehnGustav]

... and exactly that makes me "love" sports so much.
Modern sports is like the Circus games back then.
Opium to the people.

I once heard a sportsman explain that doping comes because the spectator wants to see men run faster, jumpers jump higher and pole vaulters vault further.

That the spectator is inciting these Dudes and Dudettes to pimp themselves.

Aha?
while i can understand the principle, and also see the pressure...

the rules say NO.

So apart from being a ridiculous thing that can shrink your Nuts and make you look like a monster or a clown, it is still not permitted.

So, the sports world is twisted. The entire professional sports world is riddled with this crap.

Therefor: should i care?

Give them a Big shot of their favorite products. a realllllllly big shot that freezes their brains and makes their Hazelnuts implode.
Then let them die an agonizing death.
They serve no purpose, and get none of my sympathy.:yeah:

[Alex]

There is no doubt that Armstrong doped.
But who can say he didn't, among the contenders for the win ?
Also, there is no question the poor Armstrong is the scapegoat these days.
Without massive doping ? No more breakaway in mountainous terrain. So, speaking about the little part of his career I'm familiar with, the right question regarding Armstrong is : how the hell did this guy, who didn't have the potential to win one and only tour de France at the beginning of his career (unlike some giants like Anquetil, Merckx and Hinault), happen to be able to win it 7 times, exploding all records ?

Here is the great mystery, and real annoyance for the real connoisseurs and bicycle lovers. Winning such a great competition once can be considered a marvellous personal performance. He won this competition 7 consecutive times, for 7 years in a row. In this incredible prodigy, what is the share of the little man, and the one of his country's chemistry ? Personally I hope we'll have an answer to that question, for the sake of knowledge and morality.

[Cybermat47]

Well ain't that dope.

[Sailor Steve]

"Someone once asked me if I thought America had a dope problem. I told him 'Yeah. I think we have way too many dopes'."
-George Carlin, 1971

[GT182]

Well then, Congress and the White House had better confess their dopes too.

[eddie]

Guess he finally confessed!

http://msn.foxsports.com/cycling/story/lance-armstrong-oprah-winfrey-performance-enhancing-drugs-tour-de-france-011413

[Skybird]

So ten years later the dead body finally admits that he died ten years earlier.

I wonder if he only did it to opportunistically gain allowance for other professional sports competition again, or whether it really burnt in his soul to make a clean table.

By the impression I have of him since long time, it is the first.

[Platapus]

But but but he was sooo sincere when he denied it. And so vicious in his attacks toward people who, evidently, were telling the truth.

Lance, here is a protip: You lose a lot of credibility when you call something a witch hunt and you turn out to be a witch.

[Jimbuna]

I really don't think many people will be surprised by this eventual confession.

[joea]

Nike must be embarrassed ... :haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U&feature=youtu.be

See he didn't lie though, he didn't say "I'm not on dope" he said "I'm on my bike 6 hours a day" THAT'S NOT A LIE.:doh:

[Betonov]

He should have just kept quiet. Half the world would think of him as an ace athlete and half as a cheater.

[Cybermat47]

Nike must be embarrassed ... :haha:


You really think that a multi-million dollar company would be more embarrassed by sponsoring a doper than they are by using children to make shoes?

Makes sense to me!

[Jimbuna]

You really think that a multi-million dollar company would be more embarrassed by sponsoring a doper than they are by using children to make shoes?

Makes sense to me!

No politics if you please....don't want the thread to change course :)

[Armistead]

Wasn't he sponsered by the US Post Office...think I heard the news say the FEDs may be going after him.

I have no pity for him, he destroyed many lives covering up his dope.

[Cybermat47]

No politics if you please....don't want the thread to change course :)

I didn't mean to turn it into a political discussion, but I won't put any other posts like that anymore, just in case.

[Jimbuna]

I didn't mean to turn it into a political discussion, but I won't put any other posts like that anymore, just in case.

No harm no foul.

[mookiemookie]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when the cycling authorities were going after him with such a passion that it was like a personal vendetta. But now, I don't feel sorry for him at all.

[soopaman2]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt when the cycling authorities were going after him with such a passion that it was like a personal vendetta. But now, I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Me too Mookie.

I wanted to give him the Benefit of the doubt too, I thought it was sour grapes.

Kinda like finding out Superman was Clark Kent, or Santa was not real.

Lance was a crap-head to his teamates, and now this.

So the question I pose to you, is why admit it now?

Is he trying to salvage his reputation, or is it some kind of genuine gesture to cleanse his soul?

He is done athletically, so my opinion is he is trying to save his legacy. IMHO

[mookiemookie]

He is done athletically, so my opinion is he is trying to save his legacy. IMHO

Yep. It's a mea culpa that's purely meant to rehab his image. He's trying to appear humble.

[soopaman2]

Yep. It's a mea culpa that's purely meant to rehab his image. He's trying to appear humble.


I feared that.

He was an American hero at one point, now he just makes us all look like crap.

I admired him, I have to say. But I thought McGuire and Sosa were awesome too, until I found out better.

Betrayal is what it feels like. As I said above, like finding out Santa isn't real as a kid.

He betrayed his country, his teamates, and most importantly his other competitors, and the spirit of the sport itself.

A legend, shattered. Despite his confession he will live in shame forever.

[nikimcbee]

Yep. It's a mea culpa that's purely meant to rehab his image. He's trying to appear humble.

Plus he confessed on Oprah. It's all okay now. Oprah Christ can forgive him and she'll get a boost in tv ratings.:haha:

[Sailor Steve]

Is it Fat Oprah or Skinny Oprah?

Is it an even or an odd week?

[soopaman2]

Is it Fat Oprah or Skinny Oprah?

Is it an even or an odd week?

Wasn't she always a pig?

I ain't see it but...
Did the interview include a moment of silence for twinkies, then you know if you got Miss Piggy, or Puke-alot.:woot:

What is an Oprah, is that like an Orca?

[RickC Sniper]

I would like to see him apologize to the teammates he bullied and called liars.

In particular:
Many of his former teammates and friends, including Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis.
The wife of one of his teammates, Betsy Andreu.
Greg LeMond


There is a difference between a confession and an apology.

[Jimbuna]

I would like to see him apologize to the teammates he bullied and called liars.

In particular:
Many of his former teammates and friends, including Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis.
The wife of one of his teammates, Betsy Andreu.
Greg LeMond


There is a difference between a confession and an apology.

Agreed....a simple confession goes nowhere near far enough in my opinion.

[mookiemookie]

If Lance Armstrong has been doping and winning bike races all this time, I wanna know where he was getting it. My dope just makes me sleepy and gives me cravings for junk food.

[joea]

I would like to see him apologize to the teammates he bullied and called liars.

In particular:
Many of his former teammates and friends, including Tyler Hamilton and Floyd Landis.
The wife of one of his teammates, Betsy Andreu.
Greg LeMond


There is a difference between a confession and an apology.

Seems he did the bare minimum. :shifty:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-confesses-to-using-drugs-but-without-details.html?hp&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/arts/television/lance-armstrong-interview-with-oprah-winfrey-lacked-emotion.html?ref=cycling

Betsy Andreu is not impressed for one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/18/lance-armstrong-drugs-betsy-andreu

[BossMark]

Just seen some of the cheating bastards interview, and what and absolute cheating bastard he is. :nope: May he rot in hell.

[Skybird]

For his ego, even the sky does not seem to be the limit in size. What a psychologically damaged person. And still, even now, he seeks total control and total manipulation of the environment he moves in and addresses here.

That was no confession due to regret. It was an attempt to continue the manipulation, and re-take the control.

I think he really has problems with his personality. He should seek therapy. Saying that not as an offence, but as a former psychologist. To me, his behavior and the impression he delivered, made some warning lamps going on.

[Jimbuna]

To quote a saying I've learned from my American friends....'He's done, stick a fork in him'.

[eddie]

To quote a saying I've learned from my American friends....'He's done, stick a fork in him'.

Oh my, a Northener turning into a Yank!?!:D

[HundertzehnGustav]

some tar! some feathers! an iron bar!
deport this useless piece of.
but to where...

[Sailor Steve]

some tar! some feathers! an iron bar!
deport this useless piece of.
but to where...
Why bother? Lot's of people lie, cheat and steal then write books about it and go on TV. To me it's not worth the time or trouble. I'll just continue to ignore him.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Ignore Who?

[Sailor Steve]

What?

[Jimbuna]

Oh my, a Northener turning into a Yank!?!:D

LOL:)

[HundertzehnGustav]

...?

(or: how to end a discussion about a nobody)

[u crank]

I admit to doping.

Lance had nothing to do with it. :O: