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yubba
01-02-13, 09:49 PM
Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I will not register my weapons should this bill be passed, as I do not believe it is the government’s right to know what I own. Nor do I think it prudent to tell you what I own so that it may be taken from me by a group of people who enjoy armed protection yet decry me having the same a crime. You ma’am have overstepped a line that is not your domain. I am a Marine Corps Veteran of 8 years, and I will not have some woman who proclaims the evil of an inanimate object, yet carries one, tell me I may not have one.
I am not your subject. I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America.
I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.
I will not be disarmed to suit the fear that has been established by the media and your misinformation campaign against the American public.
We, the people, deserve better than you.
Respectfully Submitted,
Joshua Boston
Cpl,
United States Marine Corps
2004-2012

Dear, Senator

Ditto

not even close to being respectful
yubba

Stealhead
01-02-13, 09:58 PM
He is only a Corporal in the Marines and he has been in since 2004 eight years? He should be an NCO by now really even if you take a while you should be an NCO after eight years in the armed forces.Even if he is in the Reserves he should be an NCO after eight years.His military discipline must be very poor.The new cut off limit for a Sargent in the USMC is now 10 years of service earn Staff Sargent or leave this dude has been that long nearly and he is not even a Sargent yet.

Also he should learn to follow the regulations and standards of the Marine Corps one of them is not to make political statements using the fact of being active duty service to put across your point.

Red October1984
01-02-13, 09:59 PM
Very well said. :salute:

Red October1984
01-02-13, 10:03 PM
Also he should learn to follow the regulations and standards of the Marine Corps one of them is not to make political statements using the fact of being active duty service to put across your point.

I am not sure about that one, but, this Marine was right. The Senators are supposed to serve us. Soldiers are the people that allow people like you and me sleep at night. We know that when we go to bed that we have people out there every day fighting for our rights. Even if most of America is lazy and on welfare/food stamps.

Stealhead
01-02-13, 10:09 PM
I am not sure about that one, but, this Marine was right. The Senators are supposed to serve us. Soldiers are the people that allow people like you and me sleep at night. We know that when we go to bed that we have people out there every day fighting for our rights. Even if most of America is lazy and on welfare/food stamps.

I am sure it is against Department of Defense regulations for military members to make political statements publicly he can vote and he can attend a rally in civilian clothes but not in uniform and can not make statements or endorsements publicly.This letter has been made public.Well never mind I missed the "retired" bit more like he got a "thakns for you time but you are not advancing in rank" discharge.So the rules do not apply to him anymore.

I don't expect you to know the UCMJ and DOD regulations UCMJ is Uniform Code of Military Justice a code is a law in the UCMJ.Maybe others missed it but I recall very strong emphasis on political things what we could and could not do when I was in the Air Force and for any military member ignorance of a code(law) is not a defense.

Honestly the guy who wrote this letter sounds like a screw up to me based on his service time and rank it is pathetic.I would have respect for Marine that simply used his name but not his rank or branch of service and also only mailed the letter to the intended recipient.

Also the guy is a moron because in most states when you buy a firearm you are required to register it anyway it has been this way for many years in many states even some of the most lax gun law states require you to register.

yubba
01-02-13, 10:19 PM
Also he should learn to follow the regulations and standards of the Marine Corps one of them is not to make political statements using the fact of being active duty service to put across your point.

I believe he said he was a veteran of 8 years, so he might be a discharge Marine like myself ..If he isn't active then you are wasteing your breath

Stealhead
01-02-13, 10:23 PM
I know I saw that but he is only separated then not retired no 20 or more years and he is not a wounded vet because he surely would have said so.No offense but after 8 years only being a Corporal is not very impressive that is only E-4 most have this rank in two or 3 years and this guy stayed at E-4 for 5 years not a very good Marine.

Oberon
01-02-13, 10:29 PM
I think this is more likely a case of Cpl Chain Mail than it is Joshua Boston.

yubba
01-02-13, 10:31 PM
That's why we call it the Suck, I did 4 years and was a E-3 I was a very bad Marine but non the less I was a Marine, a good Marine either dies or gets fragged. I knew 30 of the 300 that died in the barracks bombing in Beiruit, if I had been a good little Marine I, might have died there too.

em2nought
01-02-13, 10:54 PM
Advancing in rank is highly overrated. Never could picture myself as a chief sitting around drinking coffee all day and not actually getting my hands dirty. :D E-6 didn't look much better either, I'd rather be back to those Operation Petticoat days with chiefs still in dungarees. I blame Robert S. McNamara, the military was better before it was a bureaucracy. They used to win also. ;)

eddie
01-03-13, 12:09 AM
I think this is more likely a case of Cpl Chain Mail than it is Joshua Boston.

There is more of that nonsense flying in emails around here, then you could imagine Oberon. The big bad boogy man is coming to take their guns (only in their imaginations, mind you) so they are wetting themselves over nothing,lol Just strutting their so called macho ego's around, to anyone willing to listen to their fairey tales. Next thing you know, these folks are going to march on Washington DC and set things right. Watch out America, the delusional new Minute Men are coming to the rescue!:har::har:

Tribesman
01-03-13, 02:19 AM
I think this is more likely a case of Cpl Chain Mail than it is Joshua Boston.

I would never have guessed.
Pretty dumb attempt isn't it.
Do not ask me if I have guns as I own an AR-15 and I will not tell you that:har:
I think cpl Just Bull has a bit of Captain Mainwairing about him

Watch out America, the delusional new Minute Men are coming to the rescue!
Unfortunately they might be true words Eddie.
If you recall one of those well publicised "once a marine always a marine" friends of yubba did lots of rants about his second amendment rights and protecting the constitution from evil politicians who are supposed to serve him...just before he alledgedly murdered a big pile of people then topped it all off by killing some woman and children before doing the world a favour and blowing his brains out.

TarJak
01-03-13, 03:33 AM
I would never have guessed.
Pretty dumb attempt isn't it.
Do not ask me if I have guns as I own an AR-15 and I will not tell you that:har:
I think cpl Just Bull has a bit of Captain Mainwairing about him


Unfortunately they might be true words Eddie.
If you recall one of those well publicised "once a marine always a marine" friends of yubba did lots of rants about his second amendment rights and protecting the constitution from evil politicians who are supposed to serve him...just before he alledgedly murdered a big pile of people then topped it all off by killing some woman and children before doing the world a favour and blowing his brains out.

Well no-one said you had to be smart to be a grunt corporal did they?

Does this guy have a problem with the government knowing he owns a car or holds a driving license? What's the difference and why would having to have a gun license and ownership of a weapon registered, be any different to having a drivers license and having your car registered? They are both deadly inanimate objects.

Jimbuna
01-03-13, 04:05 AM
I think this is more likely a case of Cpl Chain Mail than it is Joshua Boston.

Rgr that....so much of it about right now I suspect.

HunterICX
01-03-13, 05:34 AM
Dawgone Europeans tryin' t'take our guns agin

HunterICX

Oberon
01-03-13, 06:41 AM
Dawgone Europeans tryin' t'take our guns agin

HunterICX

DERKA-DER!

Hottentot
01-03-13, 06:50 AM
Dawgone Europeans tryin' t'take our guns agin

Dem mooselems r overpwrd too, Pdox fix or do sumfink!

HunterICX
01-03-13, 07:22 AM
Dem mooselems r overpwrd too, Pdox fix or do sumfink!

Jest send in th'Armah an' we'll larn them terro'ists not t'mess wif us, but thass not a-gonna happen eff'n them dadburn europeans son'sabitches are a-gonna take our guns away! Fry mah hide!

HunterICX

Red October1984
01-03-13, 07:26 AM
@ HunterICX..... :shifty:

:nope:

Sailor Steve
01-03-13, 08:10 AM
What's the difference and why would having to have a gun license and ownership of a weapon registered, be any different to having a drivers license and having your car registered? They are both deadly inanimate objects.
1. The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vehicle ownership. Actually in a way it does, implicit in the 9th Amendment, but guns are specifically named for reasons given many times over.

2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.

Sailor Steve
01-03-13, 08:10 AM
@ HunterICX..... :shifty:

:nope:
If you can't laugh at yourself, you have no business ever laughing at someone else.

HundertzehnGustav
01-03-13, 09:32 AM
sentence of the day.!

How boot...?
If ya cant shoot yerseilf, ya aint got no bisness shooting anyone other...?

:D:haha:

Hottentot
01-03-13, 09:38 AM
Jest send in th'Armah an' we'll larn them terro'ists not t'mess wif us

LOL mushlim d00mst4cks pwn mah mercs and jihad blobbed in backyard OMG. :doh:


but thass not a-gonna happen eff'n them dadburn europeans son'sabitches are a-gonna take our guns away! Fry mah hide!

Yea, Kofi Annan excommed me cuz his so good buddy of surrender monkeys and then UN blobbed with dem europerans LOLWTF tis so porked hope they fix it in next patch.

HunterICX
01-03-13, 10:59 AM
LOL mushlim d00mst4cks pwn mah mercs and jihad blobbed in backyard OMG. :doh:

Life jest ain't fair at times now is it? Whut in tarnations next we is a-gonna haf a thet obama feller fo' t'other 4 stinkin' years? ..... whut's thet woomin? Wal ah be dadburned, this place is a-gonna hell.
Told yo' t'fix th' tellyvishun woomin now yo' make me look bad

Yea, Kofi Annan excommed me cuz his so good buddy of surrender monkeys and then UN blobbed with dem europerans LOLWTF tis so porked hope they fix it in next patch.

Like ah told yo' it's them freakin' Europeans at it agin...*spits*

wait a minute...are we on th' same subjeck on account o' it seems t'me yo' suh isn't takin' me seriously an' we kin't haf thet kind of attitude aroun' hyar...this fo'um is strickly serious.

HunterICX

Hottentot
01-03-13, 11:52 AM
Life jest ain't fair at times now is it? Whut in tarnations next we is a-gonna haf a thet obama feller fo' t'other 4 stinkin' years? .....

Nanana, we jus' invite claimant and mary him to mah sistah daughta namsake n' then klik plot butt on on jawabama so thar will be "acid dent".


whut's thet woomin? Wal ah be dadburned, this place is a-gonna hell.
Told yo' t'fix th' tellyvishun woomin now yo' make me look badYa, I say man, dem moomin no guud. Get jest week claims. :nope:


wait a minute...are we on th' same subjeckLOL whut, I thunk we be talkink aboot CK2? Whut yoo on aboot den?

HunterICX
01-03-13, 11:59 AM
Nanana, we jus' invite claimant and mary him to mah sistah daughta namsake n' then klik plot butt on on jawabama so thar will be "acid dent".

Yo' sho'nuff yo' kin does thet? might save this hyar hell of a great place af'er all, ah reckon.


Ya, I say man, dem moomin no guud. Get jest week claims. :nope:
Yeah this hyar wretched wife of mine is gittin' me nothin' fine of late.


LOL whut, I thunk we be talkink aboot CK2? Whut yoo on aboot den?Them dadburn stinkin' rotten no good europeans.

HunterICX

Hottentot
01-03-13, 12:10 PM
Yo' sho'nuff yo' kin does thet? might save this hyar hell of a great place af'er all, ah reckon.

Ya bro, yoo jest bribe is spymastah with $20 and de plotpowr go like 1,000 % BOMZ.


Yeah this hyar wretched wife of mine is gittin' me nothin' fine of late.

Yo shuld matrimarry her to sum rits family yungest brat 'n den ass assinate ol 'is broda n den her so yoo in hear it. Simple OK?


Them dadburn stinkin' rotten no good europeans.

O yea, I hate dose guys too. :nope:

Oberon
01-03-13, 12:58 PM
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2506/ck25j.jpg
Derka-durr! :yep:

Hottentot
01-03-13, 01:04 PM
You named your son Poppo and then thought it was a stupid mistake that you needed to correct?

Oberon
01-03-13, 01:21 PM
You named your son Poppo and then thought it was a stupid mistake that you needed to correct?

Oh, no, my sons are named after theological demons. :yep:

Poppo is...was...the son of the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire. :03:

Errr...dagnamit?

kraznyi_oktjabr
01-03-13, 01:25 PM
yubba thread with some serious discussion? :o

Unbelievable! :nope:

Hottentot
01-03-13, 01:30 PM
Oh, no, my sons are named after theological demons. :yep:

Like Andrea. :shifty:


Poppo is...was...the son of the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire. :03:

Meh, could have fooled me. Sons have been killed for much less, after all. Every decent ruler knows that having a harelip is a perfectly valid reason for throwing your 2-year old infant heir out of the castle's window.

Tribesman
01-03-13, 01:35 PM
yubba thread with some serious discussion? :o

Unbelievable! :nope:
It the CK2 doomsday conspiracy as the Y2K conspiracy is sooooo last millenium

Penguin
01-03-13, 04:14 PM
A very good opinion peace about how Conservatives are up to fighting tooth and claws when it comes to the 2nd Amendment while keeping an awkward silence when it comes to other rights: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/the-strangest-conservative-priority-prepping-a-2nd-amendment-solution/266711

I recommend to read the full article, though here are 2 quotes for the lazy ones:

The powers the Republican Party has given to the presidency since 9/11 would obviously enable far more grave abuses in the hands of a would be tyrant than any gun control legislation with even a miniscule chance of passing Congress. So why are so many liberty-invoking 2nd Amendment absolutists reliable Republican voters, as if the GOP's stance on that issue somehow makes up for its shortcomings? And why do they so seldom speak up about threats to the Bill of Rights that don't involve guns?

[...]

folks who want to guard against a tyrannical government are foolish to focus on the 2nd Amendment while abandoning numerous other rights for fear of terrorism.

TarJak
01-03-13, 04:21 PM
1. The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to vehicle ownership. Actually in a way it does, implicit in the 9th Amendment, but guns are specifically named for reasons given many times over.

2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.

Fair enough on point 2, but in 1792 no-one complained about the registration and inspection of weapons. Why now?:D

Platapus
01-03-13, 05:37 PM
Also he should learn to follow the regulations and standards of the Marine Corps one of them is not to make political statements using the fact of being active duty service to put across your point.

That used to be traditional ethics of military service. Sadly the modern military members don't always recognize it. :(

Platapus
01-03-13, 05:45 PM
Has anyone read what Diane is proposing?

I would say the chances if that, as written, even getting out of committee are approximately slim with a chance of it being approved very close to zero. :nope:

Platapus
01-03-13, 06:24 PM
2. I can indeed own a car, without registration or a drivers license. I can't drive it on public roads without both of those, but on my own property is fine, and no one can say otherwise.


That is a very important point that some tend to forget.

Skybird
01-03-13, 07:09 PM
Love the sword, die by the sword.

That is not just true for individuals, but also for societies and cultures. You reap what you sow.

Sailor Steve
01-03-13, 09:50 PM
Fair enough on point 2, but in 1792 no-one complained about the registration and inspection of weapons. Why now?:D
Because they were being ordered to own weapons, and they thought that was a good idea. Now the idea is to take the weapons away, and we think that's a bad idea. As for registration, that is a conundrum. If the point is to know who the government can rely on in a call-up, registration seems like a good idea to the gun owner. When the point is to know whose door to knock on when the government wants to collect guns, registration seems like a bad idea.

I've know people who refused to join the NRA on the principle that if any State or Federal agency did decide to start confiscating guns, they would likely start by finding a judge who would demand the NRA hand over the rolls.

August
01-03-13, 11:25 PM
Has anyone read what Diane is proposing?

I would say the chances if that, as written, even getting out of committee are approximately slim with a chance of it being approved very close to zero. :nope:

I read it. It's more draconian than even the regulations on their full auto counterparts.

Cybermat47
01-04-13, 12:40 AM
Love the sword, die by the sword.

That is not just true for individuals, but also for societies and cultures. You reap what you sow.

Good point, that.

I might make it my signature on another forum!

Tribesman
01-04-13, 02:52 AM
Because they were being ordered to own weapons, and they thought that was a good idea. As for registration, that is a conundrum.
If they were ordered then they were regulated and registered, after all if the people are ordered to keep a longarm with 50m bullets and a horn of powder and fowling pieces don't count then they are touiching all the bases for the 2nd allowing strict regulation on that which it covers.

Now the idea is to take the weapons away, and we think that's a bad idea.
The idea is to restrict ownership of some weapons isn't it, plus take them away from people you all seem to agree shouldn't be allowed weapons.

If the point is to know who the government can rely on in a call-up, registration seems like a good idea to the gun owner. When the point is to know whose door to knock on when the government wants to collect guns, registration seems like a bad idea.
Yet the same people who say it is a bad idea are unable to defend it when the government has failed to remove guns from people they agree shouldn't have guns.

Sailor Steve
01-04-13, 11:35 AM
I was merely answering TarJak's question of why gun owners wouldn't complain then but would complain now. Your attempts to drag me into another point-by-point fail.

Kptlt. Neuerburg
01-04-13, 02:00 PM
Since this looks like another thread about gun rights and gun control, I'll just leave these here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Finland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Germany

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

Now since all of these are from Wiki there probably not 100% accurite and leave out some detail, like the Finland article doesn't explain how many or what type of Traffic Offences and/or how many would disallow a person from getting a firearms certificate .

Oberon
01-04-13, 02:03 PM
No, this is a thread about Crusader Kings II, stop taking it off-topic! :nope:

Hottentot
01-04-13, 02:06 PM
No, this is a thread about Crusader Kings II, stop taking it off-topic! :nope:

So...had any decent cousin marriages lately?

Oberon
01-04-13, 02:43 PM
So...had any decent cousin marriages lately?

Task Force had a good matrilinial marriage that resulted in the destruction of his family, he tried to assassinate his wife but killed himself instead and then he was eaten by Mongols. :yep:

Takeda Shingen
01-04-13, 02:49 PM
You know, the only thing the OP wants are views and posts; the content of which are not important. He will see the fact that this thread has gone to four pages and 600+ views as a victory, and will give him cause to do it again.

Just sayin'.

Oberon
01-04-13, 02:56 PM
You know, the only thing the OP wants are views and posts; the content of which are not important. He will see the fact that this thread has gone to four pages and 600+ views as a victory, and will give him cause to do it again.

Just sayin'.

True, but on certain subjects, particularly that of gun control, people are always going to post and there are going to be certain members who will unwittingly (or otherwise) spiral into a heated debate about the said subject, thus given us four pages of anger and snide comments, instead of four pages of talk about an excellent Paradox Interactive game. Well, ok, two pages of Hunter attempting to be a redneck, and two pages of talk about an excellent Paradox Interactive game.

Unless Yubbas threads are locked on entry then there will be views and posts, the best victory I think we can get out of it is to derail it utterly.

Takeda Shingen
01-04-13, 03:00 PM
True, but on certain subjects, particularly that of gun control, people are always going to post and there are going to be certain members who will unwittingly (or otherwise) spiral into a heated debate about the said subject, thus given us four pages of anger and snide comments, instead of four pages of talk about an excellent Paradox Interactive game. Well, ok, two pages of Hunter attempting to be a redneck, and two pages of talk about an excellent Paradox Interactive game.

Unless Yubbas threads are locked on entry then there will be views and posts, the best victory I think we can get out of it is to derail it utterly.

Post history can show you that this simply isn't true. For a better example, look at Vendor. People finally wised up to the fact that he was after exactly the same thing as yubba; a person that also measured his success in replies and views. People stopped replying to his super controversial current events topics, and so for the past few weeks we haven't been drowning in pages of Vendorspam. Same thing here.

Or, maybe you guys are just happy this way. Then forget what I said. Always give the people what they want, no?

Oberon
01-04-13, 03:05 PM
Post history can show you that this simply isn't true. For a better example, look at Vendor. People finally wised up to the fact that he was after exactly the same thing as yubba; a person that also measured his success in replies and views. People stopped replying to his super controversial current events topics, and so for the past few weeks we haven't been drowning in pages of Vendorspam. Same thing here.

Or, maybe you guys are just happy this way. Then forget what I said. Always give the people what they want, no?

You do have a point, I shall stop here.

Tribesman
01-04-13, 03:06 PM
I was merely answering TarJak's question of why gun owners wouldn't complain then but would complain now. Your attempts to drag me into another point-by-point fail.
to whom do you refer?
No linkee no talkie:03:

Platapus
01-04-13, 05:11 PM
I've know people who refused to join the NRA on the principle that if any State or Federal agency did decide to start confiscating guns, they would likely start by finding a judge who would demand the NRA hand over the rolls.

I never understood those people who are so afraid that the government will take away their guns, but then create a papertrail like that.

Does the NRA still sell insurance where you had to list the guns you wanted to insure?

Jimbuna
01-04-13, 05:28 PM
Things are becoming a little stale me thinks http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2822/yawnbigji2wt7.gif

August
01-04-13, 05:46 PM
I never understood those people who are so afraid that the government will take away their guns, but then create a papertrail like that.

Does the NRA still sell insurance where you had to list the guns you wanted to insure?


Just because someone is an NRA member doesn't mean they actually own firearms.

soopaman2
01-04-13, 06:19 PM
Post history can show you that this simply isn't true. For a better example, look at Vendor. People finally wised up to the fact that he was after exactly the same thing as yubba; a person that also measured his success in replies and views. People stopped replying to his super controversial current events topics, and so for the past few weeks we haven't been drowning in pages of Vendorspam. Same thing here.

Or, maybe you guys are just happy this way. Then forget what I said. Always give the people what they want, no?


Good point, but Yubba and Vendor in the same ilk?

Vendor is alot tamer. Yubba is one of those guys that are outright honest.

I do not think either are famewhores, they are what they are.


Just like when I spout my crap, I am not post counting, I am simply conveying my thoughts.

With all due respect daimyo-sama (and I know you dislike me, so I expect you not to listen) but both serve a need here, to invoke discussions, which is exactly what this thread is doing.

Good day, and great for your Eagles with the Reid Firing, the Chiefs deserve him, and Philly deserves better.:salute:


On guns? ...My cold dead hands, as Charlton Heston once said.

Tribesman
01-04-13, 06:55 PM
Yubba is one of those guys that are outright honest.

:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

soopaman2
01-04-13, 07:04 PM
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

Now mind you he may not make sense to you or me, but he makes sense to himself. No need to invalidate his opinion.

Try debating his points rather than mocking him...

Ohhh, gotcha!


You can't can you?

You see Yubba as thread originator, and get your jokebook out, alot of you do. He barely defends himself, but I will defend him, and I typically do not agree with him in most things.

Yeah, I am white knighting to no benefit to myself other than ridicule, bring it on.

August
01-04-13, 07:29 PM
Now mind you he may not make sense to you or me, but he makes sense to himself. No need to invalidate his opinion.

Try debating his points rather than mocking him...

Ohhh, gotcha!


You can't can you?

You see Yubba as thread originator, and get your jokebook out, alot of you do. He barely defends himself, but I will defend him, and I typically do not agree with him in most things.

Yeah, I am white knighting to no benefit to myself other than ridicule, bring it on.

You won't get ridicule from me. Well said.

Tribesman
01-04-13, 08:05 PM
Now mind you he may not make sense to you or me, but he makes sense to himself. No need to invalidate his opinion.

Errrrrrrr....you called him honest, by his own admission he works illegally using stolen machinery, unless of course he wasn't telling the truth then.
Maybe you meant something else by "honest":hmmm:

Ohhh, gotcha!


:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:
chain e-mails
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:


You see Yubba as thread originator, and get your jokebook out, alot of you do.
No I deal with what is written, in this case....Pretty dumb attempt isn't it.
addresses the content of the opening post, it doesn't matter if yubba posted it or if it was anyone else posting it, it was simply a pretty dumb attempt, which as a good rule is on par for chain e-mails.

HunterICX
01-04-13, 08:18 PM
Yubba is one of those guys that are outright honest.


He's an outright forum troll, it's that simple.

Now mind you he may not make sense to you or me, but he makes sense to himself. No need to invalidate his opinion.

Try debating his points rather than mocking him...

Ohhh, gotcha!


You can't can you?

Whats there to debate of his original post which is nothing but a copy and paste of some viral piece of dramatic crap that's going on the internet.
Most of his threads are like that...just some crap he found in his email's inbox.

You see Yubba as thread originator, and get your jokebook out, alot of you do. He barely defends himself, but I will defend him, and I typically do not agree with him in most things.


:rotfl2: ofcourse he doesn't defend himself it's not his intention too....this is drive by trolling just post something that'll fire up an heated debate between 2 sides of an political standpoint and just see them go at it.

He never ever is contstructive nor able to go at an normal debate or is he conveying his thoughts he just flings mud around and high tails out of it.

Again...nothing but a troll.

HunterICX

yubba
01-04-13, 08:25 PM
I try to be as honest as I can, I can't help it that the truth sucks for some of you,, because of fracking the cows are looking funny at me, it took 2 months to get the pork out of the Sandy relief bill, true or false didn't Obama say no red tape, I guess we needed to spend another 40billion on unrelated storm projects to get 20billion to storm victims, sorry that I haven't been around to watch the veiw count and the posts had to bury a freind.:O: I would have thought you liberals would be slapping yourselves on the back on how well you all took care of the storm victims but I have hardly heard a word you would almost think it never happened. OOh did you see alittle less in your paycheck today, now that the rich are paying their fare share,, what's the problem.?????

Takeda Shingen
01-04-13, 08:50 PM
He's an outright forum troll, it's that simple.



Whats there to debate of his original post which is nothing but a copy and paste of some viral piece of dramatic crap that's going on the internet.
Most of his threads are like that...just some crap he found in his email's inbox.



:rotfl2: ofcourse he doesn't defend himself it's not his intention too....this is drive by trolling just post something that'll fire up an heated debate between 2 sides of an political standpoint and just see them go at it.

He never ever is contstructive nor able to go at an normal debate or is he conveying his thoughts he just flings mud around and high tails out of it.

Again...nothing but a troll.

HunterICX

Exactly. And, if I may add:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules3_faq_item

The Radio Room forum is not the place for flaming, spewing, or otherwise mouthing off. We do not allow posts where people are called idiots, morons, etc. We respect your freedom of speech, we ask that you respect our rules. You are welcome to express your opinion about games and other subjects. We do not want SUBSIM Review and the Radio Room forums to degenerate into a collection of *This game sux!!!!* and other immature rants. Like something or dislike something about a game, express your thoughts in reasoned and responsible terms. There are any number of forums which allow unbridled idiocy to reign, we want the Radio Room to be a civil, mature forum for discussions about naval and subsims, tactics, mods, playing tips, troubleshooting, and submarine topics in general. As such, we retain the right to edit and/or delete posts we find offensive. We also have the right to ban users who contribute to poisoning the well. Just as a radio talk host has the right to decide which callers he airs and a newspaper editor decides which letters he prints and which he throws away, the moderators in the Radio Room forums have final say on rants and spews they decide should be cut.


Don't be a spewmonkey! :)

In other words, don't treat the forums as your personal toilet.

yubba
01-05-13, 08:37 AM
So in other words if I don't agree with your idology you are going to shut me up, call me names just like Beck, Rush, Hanniaty, Levin, and a host of other consevatives said you would thanks for proveing their point, because it is the only way you can defend your point of veiw, I hear that they are starting to take a look at violent video games as a root cause of our problems so when they decide to ban video games what do you think is going to happen to this site, so now that the rich are paying their fare share I guess you didn't like that one either, it's time to give up our guns and video games and be good little sheepeople, and you know what Tribesman yes dumpster diving is a crime it is a crime that I should have to do it. Because of Fracking beer doesn't taste good any more.

Tribesman
01-05-13, 10:23 AM
I hear that they are starting to take a look at violent video games as a root cause of our problems
Thats true, the loons at the NRA are blaming video games for crazy people with guns

it's time to give up our guns and video games and be good little sheepeople,
No, video games kill people, you can keep the guns, didn't you get the message from Wayne LaTwat?


you know what Tribesman yes dumpster diving is a crime it is a crime that I should have to do it.
Prison is full of thieves who claimed they had to do it
Theft and tax evasion are crimes, it isn't a crime that you yourself choose to do it.

Sailor Steve
01-05-13, 10:46 AM
So in other words if I don't agree with your idology you are going to shut me up
As the old saying I've quoted so many times before goes, "It's not what you say, it's how you say it." This has nothing to do with your ideology. It has to do with your penchant for never discussing an issue, rather just proclaiming yourself right while not really saying anything. As was pointed out, you parrot those pundits without ever contributing to the conversation yourself. In all the posts you've made here, you never actually talk about anything. You just repeat the latest right-wing gossip and then think you're being picked on when somebody calls you on it. Nobody is trying to shut you up. We're just waiting to see if you'll ever say anything worth listening to.

call me names just like Beck, Rush, Hanniaty, Levin, and a host of other consevatives said you would thanks for proveing their point, because it is the only way you can defend your point of veiw
And there you do it again. I've listened to them all from time to time, and they never discuss the issues either. They don't espouse a Conservative point of view, they pronounce their own point of view, which is fine, but if anybody disagrees they are the ones doing the name-calling.

Also, accusing someone else of calling you names is both funny and sad, because you have been doing that to anyone who disagrees with you from your very first post.

I hear that they are starting to take a look at violent video games as a root cause of our problems so when they decide to ban video games what do you think is going to happen to this site, so now that the rich are paying their fare share I guess you didn't like that one either, it's time to give up our guns and video games and be good little sheepeople, and you know what Tribesman yes dumpster diving is a crime it is a crime that I should have to do it. Because of Fracking beer doesn't taste good any more.
And you manage to tackle five different subjects in one long, rambling, very poorly done sentence, all without actually saying anything. You manage to insult people and call them names ("sheepeople") as you always do, and I'm sure you will once again complain about being picked on when someone else returns the favor.

As I said at the beginning, it's not what you believe that causes people to make fun of you, it's the superior and yet childish way you manage to not quite say it. Maybe you should begin by learning how to actually say something, then learn how to write down what you are trying to say. Maybe then people will start to take you seriously.

TFatseas
01-06-13, 01:45 PM
I"ll say this much, it's not a just some random chain e-mail, I know where it came from, and a Marine did write it.

HundertzehnGustav
01-06-13, 02:14 PM
umm...
i am sorry to say so, but i do not think that the Letter is the principal object of the discussion that unfold here any more.:timeout:

The fun has started, and we have a Dude that draws the flak.:har:

Tribesman
01-06-13, 02:36 PM
I know where it came from, and a Marine did write it.
So that means he is genuinely dumb and not made up dumb.
Still dumb though.
Actually the genuine bit means it is even dumber than if it was made up idiocy.

Cybermat47
01-06-13, 03:34 PM
The fun has started, and we have a Dude that draws the flak.:har:

Hang on, don't the forum rules specify that we're not allowed to insult other members? And if he is a troll, why are you sinking to his level?

TFatseas
01-06-13, 04:09 PM
So that means he is genuinely dumb and not made up dumb.
Still dumb though.
Actually the genuine bit means it is even dumber than if it was made up idiocy.

http://i48.tinypic.com/jsyofl.jpg

Jimbuna
01-06-13, 05:38 PM
Hang on, don't the forum rules specify that we're not allowed to insult other members? And if he is a troll, why are you sinking to his level?

Moderators (myself included) do carry out due diligence.

Cybermat47
01-06-13, 05:40 PM
Moderators (myself included) do carry out due diligence.

OK, I'll leave you to it, sir.

Jimbuna
01-06-13, 05:46 PM
OK, I'll leave you to it, sir.

Appreciated.

Tribesman
01-06-13, 06:26 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/jsyofl.jpg
Good point, in my opinion he is a dumb twat.
On the "I love my AR15" forum they call him crazy uptight and dangerous and someone who really needs to calm down before he starts carrying his .45 everywhere in Texas "for safety" on the roads, but hey thats just their opinion and I think the I love my AR15 crowd may be sorta brady bunchish:har:

Would you like to explore how much of a twat this Mr Boston is?:hmmm:
The fingerprints are very funny:rotfl2:

TFatseas
01-06-13, 06:42 PM
Good point, in my opinion he is a dumb twat.
On the "I love my AR15" forum they call him crazy uptight and dangerous and someone who really needs to calm down before he starts carrying his .45 everywhere in Texas "for safety" on the roads, but hey thats just their opinion and I think the I love my AR15 crowd may be sorta brady bunchish:har:

Would you like to explore how much of a twat this Mr Boston is?:hmmm:
The fingerprints are very funny:rotfl2:

:doh:

Huh?

Someone else wanna translate?

Tribesman
01-06-13, 07:10 PM
Huh?

Joshua Boston is a twat who has been making a twat of himself in many places, even gun nuts are calling him a twat.
Simple isn't it:yeah:

TFatseas
01-06-13, 07:24 PM
Joshua Boston is a twat who has been making a twat of himself in many places, even gun nuts are calling him a twat.
Simple isn't it:yeah:

If you say so.:03:

Hottentot
01-07-13, 12:02 AM
Fascinating. As soon as I saw someone had bumbed the thread up, I knew Tribesman would be there to make sure it stays up.

Cybermat47
01-07-13, 12:11 AM
Fascinating. As soon as I saw someone had bumbed the thread up, I knew Tribesman would be there to make sure it stays up.

:har::rotfl2::har::rotfl2::har:

mookiemookie
01-07-13, 01:09 PM
I will not have some woman...tell me I may not have one.

...

I am the man...

Yeah you tell those stupid women. You're THE MAN who keeps them free. Some woman ain't gonna tell THE MAN what to do, right?

HundertzehnGustav
01-07-13, 02:32 PM
DA!

he DA MAN.

with DAt attitude he has never seen ... some women... naked.

and he aint understood dim o cracy either.
DAT woman has been pushed to that position by people that Voted her.
It might not be HER position on the matter, but the opinion of her supporters.

dim. really dim.

Join the army they said. Make something of yourself they said.

:shifty:

Tribesman
01-08-13, 02:52 AM
Bump.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/us/piers-morgan-guns-debate/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

mookiemookie
01-08-13, 11:02 AM
Alex Jones arguing for gun rights is the best argument for people like Alex Jones not being allowed to own guns.

Tribesman
01-08-13, 12:26 PM
Its just a pity he didn't add a FEMA death camps rant, this topic needs more FEMA death camps rants.

TFatseas
01-08-13, 02:38 PM
If Alex Jones and Piers both got swallowed up by the earth right now, not like I'd lose any sleep over it.

August
01-08-13, 09:23 PM
Alex Jones arguing for gun rights is the best argument for people like Alex Jones not being allowed to own guns.


Of course he is. Wasn't that the intention for having him on the show? Make gun owners look radical and crazy while showing Morgan as calm and thoughtful?

Tribesman
01-09-13, 02:37 AM
Of course he is. Wasn't that the intention for having him on the show? Make gun owners look radical and crazy while showing Morgan as calm and thoughtful?
Alex Jones does not make gun owners look crazy, he makes gun nuts and 2nd amendment fetishists look crazy.
Your failure to distinguish between nuts and responsible owners speaks volumes.

TFatseas
01-09-13, 12:23 PM
Alex Jones does not make gun owners look crazy, he makes gun nuts and 2nd amendment fetishists look crazy.
Your failure to distinguish between nuts and responsible owners speaks volumes.

You like arguing with fallacies, don't ya?

HundertzehnGustav
01-09-13, 02:46 PM
If Alex Jones and Piers both got swallowed up by the earth right now, not like I'd lose any sleep over it.

i would call that some sort of "ground pollution" and call greenpeace?