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Gerald
12-22-12, 11:32 AM
Arab supermodels are making a name for themselves in the fashion industry, and are changing the way Arab women are perceived by the rest of the world.

Hind Sahli is from Morocco, has been modelling for a couple of years and has worked with names such as Marc Jacobs, Kenzo and Vera Wang.

She puts her success down to a couple of things. "In fashion, they like to have new. Anything new is good."

http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q764/gasturbin/_64896823_hind_getty_zps87478194.jpg
Hind Sahli joined her first modelling agency in 2008.

But the diversity and culture of the Arab world is also appealing to those in the fashion industry.

"Designers and photographers - they like that we're not all the same and also we have such a big culture, it's so different from others - we can get inspired from so many things."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20662326

Our doors are open to you Hind....

Note: 22 December 2012 Last updated at 13:19 GMT

eddie
12-22-12, 01:23 PM
She is pretty Vendor! :up:

Gerald
12-22-12, 01:30 PM
She is pretty Vendor! :up: Yeah,:)

eddie
12-22-12, 01:51 PM
If they have a good personality that goes along with good looks, why should anyone care where they come from?:) But we do sadly.

Gerald
12-22-12, 02:01 PM
Yes, it is unfortunately.

CCIP
12-22-12, 02:01 PM
As a college teacher, I have to confess that among my students, secular arab women are often both the prettiest and the smartest :D Not a scientific observation, but something I've definitely seen more than once.

Stealhead
12-22-12, 06:03 PM
I did a few 2 and 3 month TDYs(temporary duty) to Incirlik in turkey and also a few trips to Istanbul and I can concur with CCCIP. There are some very pretty Arab/Muslim women out there.And they don't have to be all that secular either I made it with a Turkish woman that wore a hajab in public not the ultra fundamentalist type of course.

Of course there are beautiful women of every creed if you ask me.I think to some extent what is most common where you are from makes a pretty girl have an obvious level of rarity so when you see a woman from a minority not very common where you usually are it seems like they all look pretty if you by chance see handful of fine examples.In Turkey the dog faced girls where there too.

The woman above looks a tad skinny for my taste.

This woman is more my speed except for the eybrows

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/17_zps6d07f43e.jpg

Skybird
12-22-12, 08:19 PM
Let's not throw "Arab" and "Muslim" into one pot, Stealhead.

"Arab" is a word on race and/or ethnicity.

"Muslim" is a word about ideology.

CaptainMattJ.
12-23-12, 03:32 AM
This is news? I've known this for years :haha:

I'm glad someone finally agrees with me. I have definitely seen a fair share of pretty fine arab woman. :up:

HunterICX
12-23-12, 06:41 AM
"Muslim" is a word about ideology.

Nazism, Marxism, Dominionism and Islamism is an ideoly.
Muslim is an adherent of Islam which in turn is an faith.
So you're throwing 2 different things in the same pot Sky.

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OT. regardless where they're from, beautiful women can be found on all corners of this world :yep: but I must admit I like mine to be quite exotic with dark hair and dark eyes in which I could melt :D

HunterICX

Skybird
12-23-12, 07:08 AM
Faiths (meaning the word as "Glaubenssysteme", not as "Vertrauen") are ideologies, Hunter. Any religious belief system is an ideology.

Oberon
12-23-12, 08:22 AM
There are too many words in this thread.... :nope:

Jimbuna
12-23-12, 08:30 AM
There are too many words in this thread.... :nope:

Aye that.

Yamila Diaz Rahi
http://earabgirls.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Yamila-Diaz-Rahi-Photo.jpg

Herr-Berbunch
12-23-12, 12:54 PM
Jim, you could also post that one in the 'show us your favourite navel picture thread', it's certainly one of mine. :yeah:

nikimcbee
12-23-12, 01:03 PM
Jim, you could also post that one in the 'show us your favourite navel picture thread', it's certainly one of mine. :yeah:

:har::har::har::har:

Jimbuna
12-23-12, 01:07 PM
Jim, you could also post that one in the 'show us your favourite navel picture thread', it's certainly one of mine. :yeah:

Aye...and a lovely naval it is :03:

Stealhead
12-23-12, 05:30 PM
@HunterICX I usually ignore the "expert" know it all myself.:yeah:

And I do know that there is a difference ethnically but I don't see the world in the jacked up manner of Skybird. I am half Persian/Lor decent myself and a lot women in the US that one might assume to be Arab is in fact Persian in a large city like LA though you will also see alot of true Arabs but the majority of these peoples are also Muslim so really we only witnessed Skybird wishing to spread his swayed views.

Sometimes it is better to not correct everyone in the world especially when you have a swayed view of things.


How about this navel? Dont know what her name is but nice navel I'd get rid of that belly ring though.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/belly_dancing_in_dubai-sexy-dancers-hot-dance-arab-belly-dance-dancers-desert-_zps26f94eff.jpeg

Jimbuna
12-23-12, 05:33 PM
Nice :cool:

Stealhead
12-23-12, 06:12 PM
Nice :cool:

Now just imagine trying to keep your eyes on while she was dancing around and not also have the eyes on the hips.I would train myself one eye on the navel eye on the hips.:doh:

Skybird
12-23-12, 06:42 PM
@HunterICX I usually ignore the "expert" know it all myself.:yeah:

And I do know that there is a difference ethnically but I don't see the world in the jacked up manner of Skybird. I am half Persian/Lor decent myself and a lot women in the US that one might assume to be Arab is in fact Persian in a large city like LA though you will also see alot of true Arabs but the majority of these peoples are also Muslim so really we only witnessed Skybird wishing to spread his swayed views.

Sometimes it is better to not correct everyone in the world especially when you have a swayed view of things.

Blablabla. Race and ideology still are two totally different things. And it is dangerous to mistake the one with the other. It means nothing but trouble, even if there might be a correlation between the one and the other, like "Most Arabs are Muslim". Still, that does not mean it is a causal link, correlations never prove causality. You get born with Arab (or Persian) genes. You do not get born with any ideological features. Race is inheritable. Ideology is not.

So I recommend you follow your own advice in the last sentence. ;)

Tribesman
12-23-12, 06:44 PM
Let's not throw "Arab" and "Muslim" into one pot, Stealhead.

Does this mean that Skybull will no longer subscribe to the Batty neo notion of the muslim/arab horde of Eurabia with the sexy fertile arab ladies breeding whitey out of existance in the advancement of secret muslim demographics?

Takeda Shingen
12-23-12, 06:47 PM
Only Skybrid could take a "check out this hot chick" thread and ruin it by turning it into a discussion of ideology. This is why we can't have nice things.

Stealhead
12-23-12, 07:48 PM
Only Skybrid could take a "check out this hot chick" thread and ruin it by turning it into a discussion of ideology. This is why we can't have nice things.

He also did not get the part where I said that I dont pay much attention to what he says when he is on about things of this subject matter which is a good portion of what he posts about .:hmmm:

We can have such a thread you just ignore him.

I recommend that Skybird not tell me what to do or how to think because he is wasting his time.:sunny:

Now back on topic here is another one don't know her name either maybe not everyone's bag but I don't like women that are too skinny.
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/melody4arabcom_Belly_Dance_3545_zpsf3a11821.jpg

Sailor Steve
12-23-12, 07:55 PM
I actually have to agree with Skybird to a point. "Arab" and "Muslim" are not one and the same. All these hotties may be Arabs, but I doubt many of them are Muslims. Not devout ones anyway.

And if somehow they are and manage to get away with it, that won't stop me from looking. :D

Madox58
12-23-12, 08:03 PM
Only Skybrid could take a "check out this hot chick" thread and ruin it by turning it into a discussion of ideology. This is why we can't have nice things.
Being the quite, non-confrontational type person I am.
:shifty:

I learned long ago not to pay attention to people that do that while I'm in a bar.

I also learned to look at the GT area as if I was a bar.
Most post have got to be........ Um...........'Bar' influenced?
:D

If not? Then you better not start drinking now!
Cause your already suspect!
:har:

Stealhead
12-23-12, 08:31 PM
I actually have to agree with Skybird to a point. "Arab" and "Muslim" are not one and the same. All these hotties may be Arabs, but I doubt many of them are Muslims. Not devout ones anyway.

And if somehow they are and manage to get away with it, that won't stop me from looking. :D


Well many people tend to assume that if a woman does not seem to follow the most strict Muslim views she must not be a Muslim.When it is usually what you said last they are not a devout one but that does not make them not a Muslim.

Not every Jewish man or woman follows the most strict ways nor do all Christians that does not make them not it just means that they don't follow the most devout or most fundamentalist way.

I don't know about other parts of the US but down south you will see women that only wear long dresses and do not cut their hair they appear very conservative in appearance they happen to be christian with a very fundamentalist point of view.Everyone has different views and everyone has some form of ideology.

Skybird has his own ideology and thinks that all should be like him it seems so he always seeks out anything that gives him any chance to express his views.Anyway he is confused because Persians are not ethnically Arabs yet he thinks I have Arab blood in me because my mother is a Lor which is a person of Persian ethnicity.I used Arab/Muslim because when most people see that they think of any person that generally is Middle Eastern or from Iran and even Pakistan it is just easy sometimes to be generic we say white people even though a person that is white can have any number of ethnic backgrounds yet no one seems to split hairs about that.

AVGWarhawk
12-23-12, 09:38 PM
Only Skybrid could take a "check out this hot chick" thread and ruin it by turning it into a discussion of ideology. This is why we can't have nice things.

:har:

Jimbuna
12-24-12, 05:57 AM
Rana Al Abiad Syrian actress
http://bikeglam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Rana-Al-Abiad2-698x802.jpg

Skybird
12-24-12, 06:17 AM
Well many people tend to assume that if a woman does not seem to follow the most strict Muslim views she must not be a Muslim.When it is usually what you said last they are not a devout one but that does not make them not a Muslim.

Not every Jewish man or woman follows the most strict ways nor do all Christians that does not make them not it just means that they don't follow the most devout or most fundamentalist way.

I don't know about other parts of the US but down south you will see women that only wear long dresses and do not cut their hair they appear very conservative in appearance they happen to be christian with a very fundamentalist point of view.Everyone has different views and everyone has some form of ideology.

Skybird has his own ideology and thinks that all should be like him it seems so he always seeks out anything that gives him any chance to express his views.Anyway he is confused because Persians are not ethnically Arabs yet he thinks I have Arab blood in me because my mother is a Lor which is a person of Persian ethnicity.I used Arab/Muslim because when most people see that they think of any person that generally is Middle Eastern or from Iran and even Pakistan it is just easy sometimes to be generic we say white people even though a person that is white can have any number of ethnic backgrounds yet no one seems to split hairs about that.
That'S plenty of words for somebody claiming to not care for what I say.

The Persian-Arab thing have been brought up by you alone exlcusively. Having stayed I little time in Iran I know that difference myself well enough.

These "Muslim" women here would risk their lives if they woud do what they are shown to do on these photos if they would do that in places and cultural context that indeed base on truely Muslim rules of life. A truly Muslim woman not only would hide every piece of her skin and hair, but also would be expected not to be seen in public at all. And if she does, she runs the risk of being punished by father, husbvand or a religion police, even getting murdered by her own family for having brought disgrace and shame over them. In some Muslim countries this happens all the time.

I close with what my intial words to you have been, Steelhunter, before you started to make a big story of it:

Let's not throw "Arab" and "Muslim" into one pot.

"Arab" is a word on race and/or ethnicity.

"Muslim" is a word about ideology.

^This. :yep:

danasan
12-24-12, 06:27 AM
Absolutly no need to see much skin at all...

http://img.fotocommunity.com/images/Frauen/Outdoor-kein-Akt/tuareg-style-a22758717.jpg

HunterICX
12-24-12, 06:36 AM
That'S plenty of words for somebody claiming to not care for what I say.

He's referring to Sailor's Steve comment. Don't flatter yourself

I close with what my intial words to you have been, Steelhunter, before you started to make a big story of it:

Let's not throw "Arab" and "Muslim" into one pot.

"Arab" is a word on race and/or ethnicity.

"Muslim" is a word about ideology.

^This. :yep:

No matter how many times you're going repeat that...you're wrong.
Think I'll folow up on Stealheads advice and stop wasting my time on narrow minded fools with the know-it-all attitude. Besides you're the one who started to make a big deal out of nothing in this thread with your ''initial words''.

HunterICX

Skybird
12-24-12, 07:12 AM
He's referring to Sailor's Steve comment. Don't flatter yourself

Does mean nothing to whom he is referring. He invests quite some time to talk about me, while claiming he does not care for me. Well, I appreciate all the love and affection.


No matter how many times you're going repeat that...you're wrong.
Oh, thank you for this insightful and well thought-out argument. The understated though stylish charm of this overwhelmingly convincing argument certainly is irresistible. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. :yeah:

The dimensions of the term "faith":

1. Trust: an empirically justified confidence. Trust given unfounded, in advance, is belief (in ordinary language: "I trust you in good faith") - it means one hopes the other is meeting one'S expectations, empirical hints for that the other will comply, there are none.

2. Belief: a claimed knowledge one has made oneself to believe to know, or has been told and lectured to believe that one knows, but therefore believing exclusively. Can be religion-linked, but must not be, and is often met in more profane contexts as well. Can condensate in ritualized practices and traditions that then become their own purpose of existence, basing on a dogmatized expression of the original belief. Hence: the building of an ideology-based motivation. Both in profane and religious contexts it can become anankastic and /or delusional (psychopathologic).

3. Religion: a cult basing on the religious aspects of what has been said under "2. Belief". Religions are cultic/ritualized behavior patterns that justify their practice by referring to a.) historic tradition ("it has always been done and thought like this because the dogma says so") or b.) individual interpretation by the subject what it believes the original basis of the religious dogma (the fundament as referred to under point 2. ) once has been about. Both represents ritualized, cultic behavior and thinking patterns, the first by groups, the second by "freethinking" individuals that are attracted by the idea to live by their own "religious conviction", and often are seen as heretics by the first (groups). - Belief as described under 2.) can result to the forming of a religion, if a sufficiently big group of individuals come together and unite to share a consensus.

And what are areligious people? That are people refusing to play by any of the rules described under 2.) and 3.). They can be great supporters of the concept under 1.), though: putting their trust where they realise the empirical justification.

u crank
12-24-12, 09:27 AM
Merry Christmas to you too Skybird. Peace on Earth and Good Will toward all men.

Tribesman
12-24-12, 11:36 AM
Having stayed I little time in Iran I know that difference myself well enough
Really? :hmmm:
Local expertise eh?:hmmm:
Is that why you have previously insisted that Iran is a Sunni muslim country?:har:

What this topic needs is some pretty Turkish ladies, then Skybull will really frazzle his dazzling expertise and possibly go into a full eurabian conspiracy melt down.

Absolutly no need to see much skin at all...

do we agree?
The Ayes have it:yeah:

GT182
12-24-12, 11:44 AM
Many 'Middle Eastern' women are just plain gorgeous.

One that we all know here in the 'States' is Catherine Bell.

Jimbuna
12-24-12, 11:57 AM
JAG and Army Wives fame...and of Iranian stock if I'm not mistaken.

http://cdn3.blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/05/catherine-bell.jpg

Takeda Shingen
12-24-12, 12:23 PM
Begum Kiziltug, Turkish.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2880/01ui2.jpg

CaptainMattJ.
12-24-12, 01:44 PM
I went to my junior year sadies dance with this GORGEOUS persian girl. I don't have the photo anymore but she looked absolutely stunning. :up:

Sailor Steve
12-24-12, 01:45 PM
JAG and Army Wives fame...and of Iranian stock if I'm not mistaken.
Yep. And she speaks Farsi. :sunny:

Jimbuna
12-24-12, 01:52 PM
Yep. And she speaks Farsi. :sunny:

She can speak to me in any language at any time of her choosing just so long as her final word spoken is 'yes' in English :03:

Sailor Steve
12-24-12, 02:04 PM
She can speak to me in any language at any time of her choosing just so long as her final word spoken is 'yes' in English :03:
One of my favorite episodes of JAG had an officer exchange between an American and a Russian ship. The two American officers departed and two Russians came on board. 'Mac' welcomed them on board, then walked through the watertight door in her tight skirt. In Russian, with English subtitles, one of the officers says "She's a marine???", and his buddy replies (still in Russian) "God bless America!!"

Fubar2Niner
12-24-12, 02:33 PM
She can speak to me in any language at any time of her choosing just so long as her final word spoken is 'yes' in English :03:


Gulp........!

I hope Mrs. Buna isn't reading this Jim, else there could be trouble :o

Jimbuna
12-24-12, 02:48 PM
Gulp........!

I hope Mrs. Buna isn't reading this Jim, else there could be trouble :o

LOL....she knows she can trust me :03:

u crank
12-24-12, 02:50 PM
Yep. And she speaks Farsi. :sunny:

I don't mind if she speaks closi. :)

Stealhead
12-24-12, 03:13 PM
OK shes Nadine Nassib Njeim she was Ms. Lebanon in 2004.Half Lebanese half Tunisian.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/nadine1_zpsb77403f3.jpg

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/Nadine-Njeim-Feet-553259_zps45faf72f.jpg

Platapus
12-24-12, 03:25 PM
http://img.fotocommunity.com/images/Frauen/Outdoor-kein-Akt/tuareg-style-a22758717.jpg

As an "eye" guy, I approve of this picture. :yeah:

Stealhead
12-24-12, 03:47 PM
Eyes are the windows to the soul.

She has a nice complexion not a butt load of makeup and she does not hide the freckles.

The less make up a woman feels that she needs to wear the prettier she is from all respects.

Jimbuna
12-24-12, 04:34 PM
Very nice :sunny:

Gerald
12-24-12, 07:20 PM
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q764/gasturbin/640x392_39004_171988_zps5f3502d1.jpg

Stealhead
12-25-12, 02:39 AM
http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q764/gasturbin/640x392_39004_171988_zps5f3502d1.jpg

Ralph from the Simpsons would barf upon seeing any of the of the women from this family.Nothing but plastic :hmph:

No offense if that is what you like but I simply do not find any of the Kardashians very impressive.

Santa gives Vendor a huge lump of coal.

Oh and they are from Armenia not really of any Arab ancestry. Plenty of real Armenian beauties out there.

Herr-Berbunch
12-25-12, 05:10 AM
LOL....she knows I stand no chance :03:

FTFY Jim. :up:

danasan
12-25-12, 08:01 AM
I am so glad that we all can agree on that beauty - OK, not exactly all of us...

Jimbuna
12-25-12, 08:11 AM
FTFY Jim. :up:

LOL :)

Stealhead
12-25-12, 12:30 PM
Getting side tracked with Armenian women but anyway here is a real
Armenian woman better looking than any Kardashian by a country mile and no
collagen filled lips.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/lalai_armenia_1_506_-_1_zps8a12a3da.jpg

Armistead
12-25-12, 01:38 PM
I have nothing to add, except I support Arab models....:D

eddie
12-25-12, 01:52 PM
Not models per se, but these women from Lebanon, form the musical group "4 Cats" Meow!!!!!!!:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/Thony/4Cats_zpsee174a5d.jpg

Stealhead
12-25-12, 02:12 PM
The one on the left with black hair and the center with the dyed blonde hair they look like they might be sisters.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder a pleasant sight to one man might be frumpy and bland to another.
Only thing is with most shots that you see these days in magazines and online a ton of retouching has been done so what you see
is actually an illusion many times unless you see what you know is an untouched up photo you can question what you see as being "idealized"
in some way usually when no such thing needs to be done in the first place.

What are you really seeing? I feel for younger generations because they see this from birth pretty much they are shown an idea that is not even real.

Maybe that is another thread right there what is real beauty?

Here is an example of what I mean watch the video in the first link


http://mashable.com/2011/12/01/before-and-after-photos/

http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/unretouched-victoria-8217-secret-swimsuit-images-171700301.html

http://www.chilloutpoint.com/misc/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop.html

Penguin
12-25-12, 04:40 PM
Not exactly Arab, but a German with turkish roots:

http://meryemuzerli.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Meryem-Uzerli-GQ-Dergisi-Kasim-2012-3.jpg

Meryem Uzerli

I'm more of a fan of those pale middle-eastern women than their bronze counterparts, but as a nose guy, I am a big fan of the olfactory organs in the middle-east. :smug: However: richards don't discriminate. :03:

eddie
12-25-12, 05:22 PM
Iranian-German model- Shermine Shahrivar

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/Thony/ShermineShahrivar_zps7fbf431e.jpg

Jimbuna
12-25-12, 06:08 PM
Afef Jnifen, a Showgirl, Model and TV Presenter from Tunisia
http://thewondrous.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rania-Sabeh-600x399.jpg (http://thewondrous.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rania-Sabeh.jpg)