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eddie
11-15-12, 06:19 PM
The guy who killed all those people at the Batman movie has attempted to kill himself. Evidently not the first time either.

http://www.news.com.au/world/batman-massacre-suspect-taken-to-hospital-after-suicide-bid/story-fndir2ev-1226517346025

Jimbuna
11-15-12, 06:59 PM
No big deal....speak to the families of the victims :nope:

AVGWarhawk
11-15-12, 09:32 PM
I'm guessing he realized what he has done was not so cool after all and his current situation was not part of the insanity plan. Why so sad? I hope he rots for a long time. Bag of excrement.

Stealhead
11-15-12, 10:06 PM
It seems to me that his "plan" did not work out very well.He had rigged his apartment to explode and left the stereo blasting hoping someone would show up and open the door setting off the explosives.

He must have wanted this to happen shortly before his attack at the theater so that emergency services would be tied up with the bombing allowing him more time at the theater.

He also wore the body armor and SWAT style clothing to appear like a SWAT officer as I under stand the way he got arrested was when some real SWAT saw him and at first thought he was one of there own but then noticed something about his uniform(what the detail is was not mentioned).

I think his plan was for the bomb to have destroyed the apartment building allowing him lots of time to mow people down once He must have planned on his AR-15 magazines to be more reliable(good thing he had very little knowledge on clearing an AR-15) he would have used that weapon against any cops that came in and of course on more patrons.He had a 12 gauge pump action shotgun a Smith & Wesson AR-15(M&P15) and two handguns(both semiautomatics) along with the gas bombs her threw first.

The AR 100 round magazine jamming I think saved a lot of lives because it forced him to go back outside and grab one of two handguns and come back inside and after some firing that pistol pistol jammed and he went back out to grab another and must have seen the police then and tried to escape.That implies that his plan was not to kill himself or be killed though beyond on that what was he thinking?If he wanted to die he could have simply aimed any of his non functional weapons at the police they would have most likely shot him several times justifiably.At the moment he had a chance to die but he did not take it.

I think that he is not a mentally sound person but not a person unfit to stand trial.He knew what he was doing and knew it was wrong.

Nippelspanner
11-15-12, 11:04 PM
I hate how media names him batman killer... he does not deserve this name, nor this kind of attention.
He deserves to be held in a suicide-safe cell for the rest of his miserable life with no way to kill himself... in best case: strained to a bed most of the time... where he has all the time to think...and eat himself up with hate, anger, fear and desperation...

What a piece of ****!

Excuse my french...

Platapus
11-16-12, 06:52 AM
This reminds me of stories of prisoners on death row being prevented from committing suicide.

Supports the theory that the death penalty is not the death, but the state imposing the death on a citizen that's important.

I think that in every death cell there should be a suicide pill there every day until the formal execution. Any time up to the time of execution, the prisoner is free to kill themselves. If they choose not to/can not, then the state will do it for them.

Platapus
11-16-12, 06:59 AM
I hate how media names him batman killer...

I agree. The media is creating something here. I remember back in CA we had this killer. The media called him the "nightstalker". (facepalm) Yeah, like we really need to give POS murders cool names. :nope:

I think it would be better if the media were to give them more accurate names

The Sniveling Bedwetting Loser Killer

The I such a loser that I have never had a date Rapist

The I am a ChickenSh.. Cowardly POS so I can only rob old ladies Loser.

Those would be descriptive names I could accept. :yep:

Stealhead
11-16-12, 02:28 PM
This reminds me of stories of prisoners on death row being prevented from committing suicide.

Supports the theory that the death penalty is not the death, but the state imposing the death on a citizen that's important.

I think that in every death cell there should be a suicide pill there every day until the formal execution. Any time up to the time of execution, the prisoner is free to kill themselves. If they choose not to/can not, then the state will do it for them.


Why allow a person that murdered others have control over his own fate to take the cowards way out? No I don't think so if they have a death sentence they should face it outside of their control they should have to face the families of their victims when they die not cheat like a coward.No they should should be executed.

Tchocky
11-16-12, 02:39 PM
I think that in every death cell there should be a suicide pill there every day until the formal execution. Any time up to the time of execution, the prisoner is free to kill themselves. If they choose not to/can not, then the state will do it for them.

:-?

Kind of puts the kybosh on the idea of being innocent on Death Row. THere are plenty of cases where those executed or awaiting execution were found to be innocent after heavy investigation.

Now you might say that an innocent person might not take their own life before the state gets to do it - but despair drives people to do many illogical things, and I can imagine that the prospect of controlling your exit rather than have the state kill you wrongly might be very attractive to an innocent on Death Row.

This ties up with my major problem with the death penalty - you can no more un-execute an innocent person than a guilty person can un-murder a victim.

Stealhead
11-16-12, 02:51 PM
:-?

Kind of puts the kybosh on the idea of being innocent on Death Row. THere are plenty of cases where those executed or awaiting execution were found to be innocent after heavy investigation.

Now you might say that an innocent person might not take their own life before the state gets to do it - but despair drives people to do many illogical things, and I can imagine that the prospect of controlling your exit rather than have the state kill you wrongly might be very attractive to an innocent on Death Row.

This ties up with my major problem with the death penalty - you can no more un-execute an innocent person than a guilty person can un-murder a victim.


I agree with that.I was thinking of a truly guilty person in my post but your point is very valid.It is not uncommon for an innocent person to later be exonerated.

All over the US plenty of people attempt suicide just because they are in a county jail for a minor offense sometimes something that wont even go to court.
Some people dislike all the appeals on death row but you want to be certain that a person you are about to execute is in fact guilty not all trials are fair and if there is a 1%
chance that the person is not guilty they should have every chance to prove it a person should only be executed upon 100% certainty of guilt.