SHIV ComSubPac raising the bar on realism

[Mike Hunter]

Note that everything that stands here can still change due historical documents

Basic lay-out.
ComSubPac is a real section of the US navy it is the HQ of submarine operations in the pacific since 1914. When you play SH-IV you recive commands of ComSubPac, here we want to replicate it by founding a community ComSubPac. In this ComSubPac we have different some ranks may give orders while others only receive orders or sent them trough. When you join ComSubPac you will fill out a form to confirm that you are good enough for Silent Service, as in SH-IV you will start of as a captain of your own submarine. we are still working on a rank system and a tonnage system.

Realism.
Realism is one of our big friends so we want to keep ComSubPac as real as possible we want serious men/woman, realistic mods (like TMO, RSRD, RFB), no goofing around and a team band. We do DEAD is DEAD.

Team Band.
From time to time we want to play online to have a team band, checking each other's skills and help them if they aren't doing it right.

to join go to our website, register with your subsim name

Visit our Forum/Website here: http://comsubpac.freeforums.org/index.php

We are still looking for people for High Command.

[CCIP]

When you join ComSubPac you will fill out a form to confirm that you are good enough for Silent Service, as in SH-IV you will start of as a captain of your own submarine. Each time When you have sunk 200,000 tonnage (Tonnage may differ after some time) on a patrol you will climb in ranks, later you will be in command of your own sub and another players sub, when you have reached this rank you can make suggestions to where you want to deploy the other sub if we approve you can give orders.

Just as a suggestion: try to look into the actual military command chain and procedures, and base the rank and priviliges of rank on the real world. Commanders at sea did not have control over other submarines, and no submarine on any patrol ever had sunk 200,000 tons (in fact, no submarine in any navy had ever sunk even half that on a patrol). Promotions in navies are never based on tonnage, but rather on length of service and discretion of superiors - there never was any benchmarks for tonnage in any navy, and to put those numbers as directly meaningful to promotions is wrong.

You should check out Wolves at War and see how they handled the procedures, orders, chains of command and promotions for their campaigns. I've not been involved with them for a long time, but I was a long-time captain and flottilla commander there in their early years. It would be a much better model realism-wise.

Good luck with this, though!

[Mike Hunter]

This is only andere early version :hmm2: wel still need historical data, files and systems so any help is welcome

If you would like to tell me how the promotion system worked, then wel can adjusted it.

[Caustic]

Good ideas in here, I hope you get enough support to go through with it.

[messageboy101]

ITS a good idea, but once you have joined you can still do patrols

[Mike Hunter]

yes, once you have joined you can still do patrols. ComSubPac will give you patrol orders trough our website or email we are also working on a new joining system that in voles a question list Greets Mike hunter

[Dogfish40]

I would suggest reading these. They are the sub reports for the fleet boats.
I have gained a ton of knowlage from perusing these day by day, hr by hr, reports.
Also, the site itself has a wealth of info on WWII U.S subs.
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/subreports.htm
Caution: Some of these reports are better than seeing anything that Hollywood could muster up.
D40:up:

[aanker]

It sounds like "The Silent Hunter I Pacific Thunder Campaign" and "Pacific Thunder Campaign" that morphed into "Subron 14" when SH4 was released.

Each patrol cycle we would receive historically accurate Patrol Orders from our SubRon CO who received them from ComSubPac. At the end of our patrol we would write a patrol report as they did in WW II - some were written so well that they looked like the real reports mentioned - linked -above.

We even had a Bureau of Personnel - BuPers - who assigned historically accurate boats for each skipper to command and a Sub School to teach new members the Rules of Engagement before they were assigned to a Squadron - or Division.

Membership dropped when Win XP came out and again when SH3 was released.

It was a lot of fun at the time....... and a lot of work running each campaign.

Have fun and Happy Hunting!

[Mike Hunter]

I would suggest reading these. They are the sub reports for the fleet boats.
I have gained a ton of knowlage from perusing these day by day, hr by hr, reports.
Also, the site itself has a wealth of info on WWII U.S subs.
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/subreports.htm
Caution: Some of these reports are better than seeing anything that Hollywood could muster up.
D40:up:


that's a lot of information
thanks for linking it, i will get on it as soon as possible