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Sonarman
10-27-12, 12:47 PM
Hardcore gamers have posted a list (http://www.hardcore-games.tk/wp/old-games-no-win8.php) of some of the titles not working in windows 8. I see they also say Starforce games don't seem to be working which means the original disc versions of maritime sims such as SH3, Enigma Rising Tide, PT Boats & Virtual Skipper may be off the menu for a while.

geetrue
10-27-12, 02:16 PM
I can't afford Windows 8 this month
which means I can afford to wait and see :yep:

Sonarman
10-27-12, 02:23 PM
I'm not going to upgrade for at least a year (if at all) still quite happy with windows 7.

eddie
10-27-12, 04:39 PM
I wonder if Steam works? I'm not jumping to 8 yet either.

Rockstar
10-27-12, 05:11 PM
Been a longtime since I've used a Windows OS but doesn't it have a capability mode which would help with this?

Skybird
10-27-12, 05:59 PM
I wonder if Steam works? I'm not jumping to 8 yet either.
In direct reaction to W8 licensing scheme, Steam has started to develeope its platform becoming Linux compatible.

Read between the lines, and you know what Steam thinks of W8.

I see no argument to move W8. From a gamer's POV I must want it to collapse, else it turns Windows into a closed app-store like it is the case with Apple. Not good for gamers and simulation-players. This is also my prime argument to ask people considering to get W8 to get it NOT. It leads the way into a new future, but a future you probably do not want, from a gamer'S POV.

Gargamel
10-27-12, 06:51 PM
Hell, Im still very happy with XP

CaptainHaplo
10-27-12, 08:11 PM
In direct reaction to W8 licensing scheme, Steam has started to develeope its platform becoming Linux compatible.

Read between the lines, and you know what Steam thinks of W8.

If Steam does this - they are screwing themselves. The linux/WINE market is significantly smaller. They HAVE to stay M$ compatible - or else they not only piss off all their customers that upgrade, but they screw themselves out of their market. They may spread the platform to include linux, but the moment they abandon windows is the moment they sign their "we plan on going bankrupt" notice. No way they don't get Win8 compatible.

the_tyrant
10-27-12, 08:24 PM
Add sleeping dogs to the list, it oddly has some issues with the drivers on certain graphic presets (doesn't work on high, works on medium)

In direct reaction to W8 licensing scheme, Steam has started to develeope its platform becoming Linux compatible.

Read between the lines, and you know what Steam thinks of W8.

I see no argument to move W8. From a gamer's POV I must want it to collapse, else it turns Windows into a closed app-store like it is the case with Apple. Not good for gamers and simulation-players. This is also my prime argument to ask people considering to get W8 to get it NOT. It leads the way into a new future, but a future you probably do not want, from a gamer'S POV.


I still don't get this argument, the windows store is added to all the sources for programs that windows 7 had. Understand that in windows 8, you can use a disk, or download from steam (hell, steam works perfectly).

If you don't like it, you can simply not use it.

Most application programmers I have spoken to welcome the windows store. It takes a MUCH lower cut than traditional sources (aka, best buy takes at least 50%, the windows store takes at most 30%, lowered to 20% if your program does well). And unlike iOS or Andriod, people are more willing to pay more for windows software.

From an enterprise IT perspective, the windows store and windows RT applications in general allows even more fine grained centralized control. The sandboxing model that Windows RT introduces allows even more freedom for multiuse systems. And unlike Apple's OS X app store, Microsoft allows each organization to create its own app store, for internal use.

Finally, the windows store allows software authors to deliver updates from an integrated source. Much better than the current model, where each program has to check for updates itself.

If you would like to enjoy older games, Windows 8 pro even includes the highly excellent Hyper-V hypervisor.

I generally see no complaints regarding the Windows RT API, the biggest complaints I hear about is more UI related, or hell, the fact that the new mail program is much worse than outlook.

Gargamel
10-27-12, 09:20 PM
How is that possible????

Worse than outlook. Lol.

http://www.funnydictionary.com/img/entry_images/900/vr7KUExgR8r.jpg

the_tyrant
10-27-12, 09:32 PM
How is that possible????

Worse than outlook. Lol.



:haha:
The mail program is so basic, it makes outlook express 6.0 look advanced

Hey if you want to get good mail on windows 8, register on outlook.com, and use it to aggregate your mail. Than, pin the tab to the start screen. 10 times better than the built in mail app

GT182
10-27-12, 09:41 PM
I went to our local mall tonight for supper and after stopped in at the new MS store. I looked and played with 8 for a bit and I do not like it. The pc I was using had both touch screen and mouse/keyboard running. Touch screen was kinda ok, but either way 8 was a PITA. I asked a few questions on gaming they had no idea if gaming was even possible. I told the kid I talking to I was into SH3, 4, and 5 and a couple of Steam games, and he basically said to stay with 7 if you want to do gaming.

It seems MS wants you connected to them all the time to see if you have problems so they can get an idea on what to fix and add. From that I don't think 8 is a finished product just yet. Maybe they've been talking to UBI. LOL

I saw only Outlook for email. No hotmail was on the computer I was playing with. And MS' antivirus software is now called Windows Defender.

You can upgrade from XP but there's no way to downgrade unless you have the trial version of 8.... IF you can still get it. And that's only good for 30 or 60 days... the kid wasn't sure on the length of time. At the end of the trial time your system reverts to the OS you were previously using. I'm thinking that was the beta version.

Not many questions were answered. One was tho. MS is no longer selling OEM Windows 7. You have to get it from a second party like CompUSA, NewEgg, or in a store-bought computer. So if you don't want Windows 8, you better get 7 from somewhere before it's gone.

Edit:

Actually when I got to thinking about Win 8 after I posted the above, it reminds me of the Vista fiasco. ;)

TwoGamers
10-27-12, 11:24 PM
Never upgrading to windows 8 unless I can get rid of that horrible start-up screen.
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/08/15/Windows_8_RTM_1_Start_screen_620x433.png
I just want to keep the windows 7 home screen. it works fine and isnt designed around a touch screen

Madox58
10-28-12, 12:05 AM
Since I can buy Windows 8 for $14.00?
I'll buy it but wait awhile before installing it.
:yep:

Rilder
10-28-12, 12:12 AM
Windows 8 is horrid of everything I've seen of it, Windows 7 works fine, thank you very much. Maybe Valve will get the idea of making their own OS so we gamers can leave Windows to the Ipad and smartphone "people".

GT182
10-28-12, 12:25 AM
For those that HAD Hotmail..... check it now and see what MS did. :nope: :down:

JU_88
10-28-12, 04:35 AM
Not surprising as half those games are pretty long in the tooth, the more recent ones like Arkham Asylum will probably get patched sooner or later.
Not that I care as Im not touching Windows 8. Tried it, hate it:)

BossMark
10-28-12, 05:24 AM
Only had windows 7 for just over 12 months so am in rush at all to upgrade to 8 yet.

Platapus
10-28-12, 06:47 AM
Hell, Im still very happy with XP

When I downgraded to Win7, there were games I could not play.

Now if I downgrade to Win 8 there will be even more games I can't play

Sign me up. :nope:

Dear Micro$oft,

How about you just take XP and fix the limitation on RAM and call it even?

That, I would buy. :yep:

STEED
10-28-12, 07:21 AM
Never upgrading to windows 8 unless I can get rid of that horrible start-up screen.
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/08/15/Windows_8_RTM_1_Start_screen_620x433.png
I just want to keep the windows 7 home screen. it works fine and isnt designed around a touch screen

They call it progress and making life easy I call it a mess fired out of a cannon.

I'm still running my XP and when the time comes to upgrade via my XP dying on me I'm going with W7 and to to hell with W8's mess.

Skybird
10-28-12, 07:27 AM
If Steam does this - they are screwing themselves. The linux/WINE market is significantly smaller. They HAVE to stay M$ compatible - or else they not only piss off all their customers that upgrade, but they screw themselves out of their market. They may spread the platform to include linux, but the moment they abandon windows is the moment they sign their "we plan on going bankrupt" notice. No way they don't get Win8 compatible.
I have read that in several articles, Haplo. Steam will lose market shares if they do not try to spread their platform'S fundament, because the intention of Microsoft is to make software a closed application market, that is why they push their new licensing scheme. Microsoft wants to mark its claim in the appstore market design. And that would mean that developers face growing dependencies. Steam therefore tries to go multiformat, and tries to become available by Linux systems as well. And that could be a clever strategy although it takes a long time to ignite, it is a longtime strategy. And - it could lead to a development where gamers fed up with what the W8 licensing schemes promises to do to the game market evade to Linux indeed, finally giving Linux the breakthrough in the private user sector that since over one decades is only talked about.

Mind you, several developers already have said they plan to boycot Microsoft'S new licensing scheme. What people here do not seem to be aware of is that compatability of old games with W8 is not only a thing of patching, but licensing and licensing fees according to the new rules now. For advertising, MS may license patches for older games for free, to help gaining market shares for W8.

But everybody has to be aware of that MS in the end want to turn the game market into a closed appstore system. That means: No modding anymore. No niche games anymore. No games a developer can or will not pay the demanded license fees for. Compare to Apple'S appstore, and you know what lies ahead of you.

That'S why I say from a gamer'S point of view it is to be hoped that W8 explodes them right into the face. If you lover gaming, do not support W8, in the longer run, you would help to destroy diverse gaming market.

The future for simulations and niche games and indy developers then indeed lies in sticking with older Windows versions - an unsafe bet-, or to go Linux.

I appeal to everybody here: stay away form W8, do not help to make it strong. W8 becoming successful will do great damage to gaming and simulations. Do resist the temptation to play around with some new gimmick just because "you want to know" and that only is of interest if indeed you operate it on a tablet.

The cahces for W8 failing to ignite, are not bad, I think. Business and offices for the most will avoid it, they do not ride every new OS wave and many just have made the jump from XP to W7. Private users during Beta and on first two days os sale are not really enthusiastic by numbers either.

Let'S help to bring this thing down. Don'T buy it, even when in the first 90 days or so it is cheap. What do you think is the reason why it is this cheap? ;) Kepe their sale numbers down, no matter their pricing policy.

And in 3 months the prices will skyrocket upwards anyway. People we could convince to not buy it when it was cheap, are unlikely to buy it then. So spread the word. Don't buy W8. If you do, don'T complain if in two or three years you realise that the PC game market has become more monotone and even more console-like and many of your beloved simulation niche titles are gone. You wanted it so, then.

P.S. Another famous example of a developer who has put down Microsofts appeal to have his game licensed, is the guy doing the popular Minecraft. And Chris Roberts. David Brabven and David Molyeaux (spelling?) also criticised the new scheme and warned of the damsage it will do, I read that earlier this year.

If the counter-strategy b y Steam tio remain indepednent from microsoft runs successfull, however, for Linux all this could become the best ever happening to it, giving Linux a massive boost on at least gamer systems.

kraznyi_oktjabr
10-28-12, 07:56 AM
<snip> If the counter-strategy b y Steam tio remain indepednent from microsoft runs successfull, however, for Linux all this could become the best ever happening to it, giving Linux a massive boost on at least gamer systems.Only reason why I upgraded to Win7 instead of moving to Linux was lack of support for games. If Steam expands to Linux and game manufacturers follow then its just question of which version to of Linux to install.

the_tyrant
10-28-12, 08:04 AM
Only reason why I upgraded to Win7 instead of moving to Linux was lack of support for games. If Steam expands to Linux and game manufacturers follow then its just question of which version to of Linux to install.


Use centOS + KDE

And use Chinese KDE (a lot of it is translated by me:D)

Cent OS is my no.1 choice for Linux distros. great stability, great performance. I was able to set up a VPN server for 24 people on a virtual machine with only 128mb ram!

MH
10-28-12, 12:22 PM
True competition for windows would be welcomed very much.
As for now Linux useless as home OS.

I also don't see any connection between app store and death to nisha gaming.
I guess that every one still will be able to install software from outside the app market.
The issue rather is that you better be there or none will pay attention.
It also is a competition to steam so i understand all this whining from their side.

CaptainHaplo
10-30-12, 04:53 PM
Dear Micro$oft,

How about you just take XP and fix the limitation on RAM and call it even?

That, I would buy. :yep:

Its called Windows XP x64 - the 64bit version of XP that does allow for you to use increased ram.

Still - 7 beats it hands down.