Franken Storm AKA Hurricane Sandy to hit eastcoast

[yubba]

You all better vote early on the east coast or you might not get a chance they call it a storm of a life time, I'm riding out tropical strom winds and rain here at Cocoa Beach,, I wouldn't expect much from the government they couldn't save 4 americans, what they going to do with several million in harms way,, start bottling water,,,, get the car filled up,,get a weeks worth of can goods,,flash light,,matches,,, and you guys can fill in the rest...

[soopaman2]

Looking at the track, it appears to be making landfall right about in central Jersey where I live.

I got lucky with Irene, but forcasters are calling this worse.

I do not need this stuff...

I trimmed the tree in my backyard today, so it does not splatter my back windows.

I got duct tape for the windows, alot of water, and canned foods. I am hoping for the best...

[Platapus]

I wouldn't expect much from the government they couldn't save 4 americans,


you are such a tool. :nope:

[razark]

Uh oh. Looks like Yubba's in trouble. Those strom winds have already taken out the rules of punctuation.


This storm could be fun. I'm supposed to be traveling to a conference in Connecticut from Sunday through Thursday.

[AVGWarhawk]

You all better vote early on the east coast or you might not get a chance they call it a storm of a life time, I'm riding out tropical strom winds and rain here at Cocoa Beach,, I wouldn't expect much from the government they couldn't save 4 americans, what they going to do with several million in harms way,, start bottling water,,,, get the car filled up,,get a weeks worth of can goods,,flash light,,matches,,, and you guys can fill in the rest...

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.

[CCIP]

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.

Hats off for your work and the best of luck in the coming days :salute:

[Tribesman]

These folks that are doing it are the government.
Lies its all lies, you are part of the conspiracy.


Good luck and stay safe

[eddie]

Appreciate what you are doing for those folks, and best of luck!:salute:

[yubba]

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.
Keep up the good work I'm a just a little miffed about this Bengaaazzzzeeee thing,,, miffed would be a understatement I"m Pi$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ED. I know there is alot of good folks that work for the government and I know it's not fair to take it out on all, but but when you have top leadership acting the fool it's hard not to put the whole system down,,.. I road out all the Hurricanes of 04 and every one went right over me, I rode charley out in the cab of a tractor trailer in a parking lot it was a flatbed trailer, with lumber, I put the tail into the wind, and the wind ripped the mirrors off,..After that I went to work for Bradco roofing supply I got to see all the damage in central florida after all those hurricanes I did't think they made that many blue tarps...

[soopaman2]

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.

Thanks to all the troops on the ground. We appreciate it!:salute:

Yubba is most likely one of those FEMA concentration camp conspiracy guys.

I get it Yubba, the government does not care, but the workers are made up of people. People who generally believe in what they do, people who would not let a needy American go without aid after a disaster.

We in Jersey are hoping for the best, the latest stormtrack has it intensifying back into a hurricane, and making landfall in Atlantic City.

My basement was waist deep in water after Irene, and this storm fares to be worst. My neighbors house floated off its foundation, and he lost everything.

My best wishes to all in this, may we be spared.

Good job making this a political statement, but some of us are worrying about our life and property.

[Betonov]

Good luck to all of you there.

And remember
http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/1-dont-panic.jpg

[Jimbuna]

You all keep safe over on the east side of the pond.

[Betonov]

You all keep safe over on the east side of the pond.

Jim, your navigation is a bit rusty :D

[soopaman2]

East coast USA is the east coast of the world, Jimbuna was right!:D:O:

I appreciate the well wishes.

I got water, a generator for my large freezer and fridge.
Maybe this is overhyped, I hope so.

NJ is used to nor'easters, most of us are happy it is bringing rain and not snow, blizzards are way worse than hurricanes.

BTW what is with the frankenstorm thing, I hate the damn media...I know compare it to the 1991 "perfect storm" of movie fame, but this is worse. So stfu hypemonger media.

It seems Sandy is back to a hurricane as I type this. Wonderful.

[Jimbuna]

Jim, your navigation is a bit rusty :D

Well, for those of you residing in wee little countries, especially with shorelines or coastlines no longer than a donkeys dangler :har:

'The pond' is a term us Brits give to that small stretch of water that separates us Brits from our American cousins....those less well informed may choose to refer to it as the Atlantic Ocean :03:

I did mix up the compass points though :oops:

[vienna]

"Franken Storm"??...


http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/al_franken_120806_fresh.jpg

"Hey, why blame me?!?"...


<o>

[soopaman2]

Leave Al alone vienna, I kinda like him.
:D

I am a huge stand up comic fan, and to see a man go from comic to productive government rep is impressive, he is one of the few good ones, sir. He has not forgot the crap pit he dug himself out of, nor the folks still in it, trying.

[vienna]

Oh, I'm a big fan of Al Franken from way back; I used to listen to his radio program where he would,on a daily basis, systematically, point by point, and with factual cites, refute the nonsense spouted by Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, et al...

[soopaman2]

Oh, I'm a big fan of Al Franken from way back; I used to listen to his radio program where he would,on a daily basis, systematically, point by point, and with factual cites, refute the nonsense spouted by Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, et al...

Good joke nonetheless:O: I caught your meaning, just discouraging others from puking on him on ideology alone.

He does kinda look like a Frankenstein, with the glasses :O:

[Betonov]

I did mix up the compass points though :oops:

My point exactly :D

And I know what ''the pond'' is :O: East coast is still to the west of UK, unles you want to go over China

[Takeda Shingen]

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.

Thank you for all your efforts, AVG.

Keep up the good work I'm a just a little miffed about this Bengaaazzzzeeee thing,,, miffed would be a understatement I"m Pi$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ED.

Then keep it about Libya. Don't make it an excuse to piss on people that are trying to save lives.

[Oberon]

Yes, good luck guys and good job AVG, it's always good to know when these times arrive that there's someone ready for the possibility of the worse happening.
I've been in London for most of the day but I saw news briefly that downgraded it back to a Tropical storm and then about two hours later upgraded it again back to a Hurricane.
I shall monitor the UK weather forums, they have a good collection of info as things develop. :yep:

[soopaman2]

Thank you for all your efforts, AVG.



Then keep it about Libya. Don't make it an excuse to piss on people that are trying to save lives.

Thanks AVG, and thank you Takeda.

I am in this storms bullseye, and felt insulted (though expected) by Yubba trying to politicize this.

I hope we do not need your efforts AVG. I pray.:)

I am honestly scared, due to how bad Hurricane Irene treated me. I just want you folks to understand, I lost alot last year, now I fare to lose alot again...

I can go without the politicalization (I do not think that is a real word, but you all get it) of this.

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm not as concerned, but I'm also a good deal west of you. If I lived in NJ, particularly near the central or eastern portions of the state, I'd be very worried by what is being forecast.

[soopaman2]

Me too Takeda, this looks way worse than what we are used to. I am rooting for it to hit Delaware.

I am a mile inland, but live kinda on the intersection of a tributary and a small river. The river is usually a lazy creek, but with massive rain, it becomes a torrent, which floods my basement.

Wind is not so bad, we are used to that. The rain is the bastard.

The Euro model is showing a direct strike a few miles south of me. the other models are showing a strike in atlantic City, 45 miles south of me.

Pardon my worries, I am sorry to subject you to them.:-?

[Betonov]

Pardon my worries, I am sorry to subject you to them.:-?

No no, keep talking. We know you're still alive

[soopaman2]

No no, keep talking. We know you're still alive

Maybe I can use this thread as a live storm update, straight from the source? Takeda can give his input too, as he is inland but in the path of this, a different perspective. Would be fun for all the observers I think.

As of now it is cloudy with still winds, folks are scrambling for water and beer. The supermarket my wife runs is out of bottled water, they ordered a special truck with 20 palates of water. (10 of poland spring, and 10 of store brands, 72 or 74 (not sure) cases to a palate)

All will be sold out by tonite.

The liquor store across the street from me is busy as well.

They are selling alot of milk and eggs, as well as 30 packs of beer.

As long as I have power and internet I will keep updating if you care.

If not I will use my android phone to update.

Unless you all want me to just shut up about this:)

[Betonov]

Where's your fresh water source. As long as that doesn't get flooded you'd be alright with drinking water

[u crank]

Maybe I can use this thread as a live storm update, straight from the source? Takeda can give his input too, as he is inland but in the path of this, a different perspective. Would be fun for all the observers I think.

As long as I have power and internet I will keep updating if you care.

If not I will use my android phone to update.

Unless you all want me to just shut up about this:)

No Soopa, it's a great idea. Keep it comin'. We may be getting it after you guys.

Best of luck. Stay safe. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Maybe I can use this thread as a live storm update, straight from the source?

Unless you all want me to just shut up about this:)

A crackin idea and no don't shut up....as if you could anyway :)

[Oberon]

Hang tight Soopa, the eye pressure forecast is 946mb on landfall which is 'Long Island Express' territory. Hopefully that'll be revised upward as time goes on.

[soopaman2]

Incapible of shutting up!

That be me. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0OKvLpf-sI

80s song of the day!

Pop goes the world!

[yubba]

Incapible of shutting up!

That be me. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0OKvLpf-sI

80s song of the day!

Pop goes the world!
I was about to say you should be getting something but you said you had it all,,, I'll say a prayer or 2 for ya, Oh lord would you please look over my liberal freinds butt,,, keep him and his family safe and when he goes to vote,, show him the light and have his hand pull the Romney Lever Amen hal la lue ya and pass the freakin peas please.

[Rockstar]

... and pass the freakin peas please.

Didn't James Brown sing Pass the Peas back in the 70's? Pass some mo' peas!

[soopaman2]

I was about to say you should be getting something but you said you had it all,,, I'll say a prayer or 2 for ya, Oh lord would you please look over my liberal freinds butt,,, keep him and his family safe and when he goes to vote,, show him the light and have his hand pull the Romney Lever Amen hal la lue ya and pass the freakin peas please.


Thanks Yubba, but I am liberal myself, sorry bud. :)

I am like you my friend, I want what is best for all of us as a whole. We just have differing ways on how to accomplish it.

God bless you Yubba. This country needs people like you as much as it needs people like me.:sunny:

I always been a big fan of you. :)

[yubba]

Thanks Yubba, but I am liberal myself, sorry bud. :)

I am like you my friend, I want what is best for all of us as a whole. We just have differing ways on how to accomplish it.

God bless you Yubba. This country needs people like you as much as it needs people like me.:sunny:

I always been a big fan of you. :)
Ditto, now I got to blow my nose and wipe a tear from my eye, you be safe, depending where this guy makes land fall the wind will be most likely coming in on you from the north, we didn't have any lightning with this storm, ,it was moving to fast but all bets are off when this thing hits that cold front...I would take a good look at the stuff on the north side of your house, dead trees, branches,, any thing that could fall on your power lines while you still have power,, my favorite bar burned down,, by a hurricane 15 years ago because the power lines were pulled out and started a fire. I was born an raised in southern tier New York I remember the flood of 72 that took the city of Corning out,, so you folks better watch your streams, creeks and rivers this storm has kill 22 people already because of flash flooding lets not let it take anymore.

[soopaman2]

I take my experiences from the 1991 holloween storm, that I watched with my own eyes carry away 1 ton sections of the boardwalks. filled my old home with 5 feet of water, and pretty much totaled the house.

I used to live 2 houses from the beach, and a simple nor'easter did me in, Irene gave me a swimming pool in my basement.

I am not fear mongering, just letting folks know what these storms can do to us.

Sometimes it is overhyped, but sometimes your back deck floats away, or your house comes off the foundation.

[soopaman2]

Kay Kyser said it best....long long ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8

[yubba]

If the storm surge doesn't get ya, a flash flood might, if you are high and dry a falling tree could up root ya, if ya don't have trees the lightning will get ya because you are the tallest thing to strike, and if you survive all of that it will be the neighbors lawn furniture flying through the air that takes you out because he was too lazy to put it up.

[soopaman2]

I love how all the so called experts on the weather channel are all from states with no coastline.

The rube on TV now is from Omaha...

Wtf am I watching. So I am supposed to believe this guy, when he never seen a storm surge?

[yubba]

Oh he's the tornado expert, 12inches of rain 2or3 feet of snow, flooding,, twisters:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:I seem to be missing something :hmmm::hmmm: Oh I got it a purple nurple..

[soopaman2]

Purple nurple for the win!

In case anyone cares, in my local area they are expecting a 9ft storm surge, which is not bad in NJ's case as we have large sandy beaches, that equals some water in the road along Ocean Avenue, but far from a Katrina like case.

It is the rain and wind damage that will hurt us.

As said before, Jersey is used to big nasty windstorms, but 3 days of heavy rain is what will hurt us.

We are better off with a blizzard, we are more used to that.

[yubba]

starting to get chilly here in florida, fricken yankee weather, I'll take my 2 weeks of winter here in florida, I was to fly up to Corning \ Elmira NY area next week to go deer hunting\coyote hunting, pops said the coyotes are eating the neighbors cats like marshmellows. That's if this isn't the start of a new Ice Age. I just notice that I got a 128 downloads and I'm looking at train sims I'm a sick puppy. Kind da thought it would be nice to curl up by the fire with a nice train sim and not blow anything up,,,, WHAT WAS I THINKIN. at least I got away from Metal of Honor, Band of Brothers, Call of Duty, and Rainbow Six, all that sniper action was giving me the willies in my sleep.

[Betonov]

Soopa, ya dead man ??

[Oberon]

New York has a 50% chance of getting five foot surges, which is about the same height as its sea defences, so there could be a bit of over topping here and there. But yeah, as Soopa said, the real problem is going to come from the rain. :yep:

[mookiemookie]

Yubba,

I have 100 truckloads of water staging in Cumberland MD. Arriving in NJ Sunday are 2 reefers of toddler kits. I'm placing shuttle trucks in Chicopee MA and transporting generators from Atlanta. FEMA is going 24/7 at 0800 today. That means no sleep for many working to get relief supplies not only staged but also replenishing what the citizens have used after the storm. The constant media bashing of FEMA and what a crap job they do grows tiresome at best. If any of them had a clue to the daunting logistical challenges, time involved and not to mention folks putting themselves in harms way to get a case of water to a family, they just might realise how sucking the mic wearing a off the rack suit is a candy ass job. Once these morons stop reporting on the storm a majority of Americans think the clean up is finished. Truth is it goes on for weeks and months. I still have trailers of supplies out for hurricane Issac.

So you fill in the rest as these folks are busting their hump to get relief to those in need. These folks that are doing it are the government.

Good man. :salute:

[soopaman2]

Not dead. Takes more than a windstorm to kill me.

It has been getting progressively windier overnight. Not alot of rain as of yet, but that has been picking up as well.

I took a walk, and seen some wind damage to trees in the neighborhood.

It is not bad yet here, 20 miles south of me is getting rocked with heavy rains.

The storm surge in Belmar is phenominal, even worse in Point Pleasant.

I got turned away from the beach by road-blocks (the same word without the hyphen was astericked??) but I parked a few blocks inland and walked to look.

No pics though, it was kinda raining, and did not want to whip out my phone.

I have my neighbors over, staying for a few days, they live lower on a hill, and there is a creek near them, that gets tempermental in things like this.

We got enough food to feed a small army, good friends.

I did tell the old lady if the power goes out, the freezer will be unplugged from the generator, so I can watch my 49ers.:D

[mookiemookie]

I got turned away from the beach by road-blocks (the same word without the hyphen was astericked??)


Take out the "ro" and the "s" and you have the name of a browser extension that is bad for folks who use banner ads to help cover server costs. I use it, but I have Subsim whitelisted so I don't screw Neal out of any $$$

Anyways, stay safe and stay away from the coastline when that thing really gets going. I know what you're going through, and the next few days are going to really suck.

[Jimbuna]

Stay safe everyone :sunny:

[soopaman2]

Take out the "ro" and the "s" and you have the name of a browser extension that is bad for folks who use banner ads to help cover server costs. I use it, but I have Subsim whitelisted so I don't screw Neal out of any $$$

Anyways, stay safe and stay away from the coastline when that thing really gets going. I know what you're going through, and the next few days are going to really suck.

Ok gotcha.

Thanks, honestly I am happy it is rain and not snow. It seems to be on track to the south of me.

As a reference I live next town over (west) from Asbury park. North of point Pleasant, about a mile from the coast. 20 miles south of me are getting hit by heavy rains right now. But it is light here as of now. Winds about 25 mph sustained (estimated) the gusts maybe 35-40? Estimated.

No consistent wind direction. It is unnerving.


I would love to try to get pics for you guys when this thing gets cranking later on. I am honestly fascinated by nature, and how serene, and how unmerciful it can be.

**hugs a tree** Yeah yeah, make fun of me.:D

[yubba]

Batten down the hatches, get as much water stored that you can, some of you won't see power for a week or two or even longer I've seen it trust me, have a way to cut wood that will be plentiful, have your radio handy you might have to go to where they have supplies they won't come to you. and for godsake don't start a campfire in your living room. Be safe, Be smart, and may God be with you. Saw some thing interesting the other day how to open a can of without a can opener or any sharp object, find a rough surface like a concrete side walk or cinder block tip the can up side down an rub it till lid edges wear down and the lid will open after alittle work. I haven't done it, but if you are in tight spot you can boil up pine needles to make a healthy tea.

[Oberon]

From what I can see, she's still holding to the course predicted. Bloody big storm in scope though, stretches well over 500 miles from side to side. Windspeed will likely increase by about 10mph before landfall but she's not going to have much more time to intensify and organise a proper eye before she runs out of gas.

[Rockstar]

Well, looked out the porthole 6:51 this morning, tides was around the mean high water mark. Only problem is 6:51 AM was supposed to be low tide. Winds are out of the NNW and driving in the water. Reckon it should be up to my knee caps by 10

Anyone have a snorkel I can use? :)

[soopaman2]

Well, looked out the porthole 6:51 this morning, tides was around the mean high water mark. Only problem is 6:51 AM was supposed to be low tide. Winds are out of the NNW and driving in the water. Reckon it should be up to my knee caps by 10

Anyone have a snorkel I can use? :)

You be careful. Godspeed.:salute:

[Rockstar]

We're on the bay side of eastern shore Maryland. Not too bad so far winds are around 25 to 30 out of the NW. Easy day in my book hopefully flooding will be the worst of our problems.

Scariest ride I ever had was riding out Hurricane Debby at sea near Bermuda in 1982. That was day I though we were all going down. Bridge level was I think 45 feet above water line. Yet so many monsterous waves would tower over us and come crashing down. Such a pounding eventually caved in the focsle and flooded the peak tanks and other compartments. Other times ship would heal so severe, cant count the number of times we must have reached the vanishing point. She would roll and just hang there for what seemed like an enternity, like she was trying making up her mind whether to continue on over and capsize or come back up. Thankfully she would right herself everytime.

S.o.b. we was scared. The oldman sprouted a full head of gray hairs that day.

[AVGWarhawk]

Currently on stand by with FEMA. Now it is time to let the storm do it's thing and pass. We do not send trucks in at the height of the storm. Just not good sense.

Meanwhile, at my office in MD, we hear the drip drip drip of water from our now leaking roof. :hmmm:

Thus far, to prepare for the storm, I have spent a better part of $1100.00. A generator being a large part of that expense. When you add in gas cans, extension cords and actual gas....it is damn expensive! Oh well, beats sitting in the dark drinking cold coffee. :88)

[soopaman2]

Cans of sterno go a long way for cooking and light in bad situations. Just saying. Power outages are common once the trees start breaking off onto power lines.

Bless you AVG, I am hoping I do not need your guys help.:up:

[mookiemookie]

MREs are your friend in these situations. :yep:

[Rockstar]

Honda EU2000 generator, dependable, fuel efficient and quiet, max output 13amp. Dang good genny imho

[AVGWarhawk]

Cans of sterno go a long way for cooking and light in bad situations. Just saying. Power outages are common once the trees start breaking off onto power lines.

Bless you AVG, I am hoping I do not need your guys help.:up:

I always hope folks don't need help but relief is there already or has stopped en-route to wait out the storm. Lake Hurst NJ is the operations point. 48 of my trucks are headed there now. Eastover MA is the second operations point. 52 trucks are headed there. My 2 reefers of toddler kits are already on site in Lake Hurst. Generators are en-route as well. Soon a crap load of tarps will be rolling in as well.

The mayor of NY is looking to get straight trucks with lift gates to deliver relief supplies to shelters in the boroughs.

Hell, I might need supplies! :shifty: Redirect a 53' of MRE to my home. :D

[soopaman2]

I always hope folks don't need help but relief is there already or has stopped en-route to wait out the storm. Lake Hurst NJ is the operations point. 48 of my trucks are headed there now. Eastover MA is the second operations point. 52 trucks are headed there. My 2 reefers of toddler kits are already on site in Lake Hurst. Generators are en-route as well. Soon a crap load of tarps will be rolling in as well.

The mayor of NY is looking to get straight trucks with lift gates to deliver relief supplies to shelters in the boroughs.

Hell, I might need supplies! :shifty: Redirect a 53' of MRE to my home. :D


My contingency plan in the case of my house being levelled is driving to Naval Weapon Station Earle, and begging for help, even sobbing like a baby if need be. 10 minute drive, in the worse weather.

God bless our military, i know those boys would help me.:)

Even with all my skepticism, I look to my government for help in the worst. I know they are not that corrupted.

Sometimes you just need help, though that is worst case scenario.

[AVGWarhawk]

Honda EU2000 generator, dependable, fuel efficient and quiet, max output 13amp. Dang good genny imho

I purchased a Briggs and Stratton:

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/generators/portable-generators/detail/?name=5500-Watt-Portable-Generator&id=%7B598F4509-E5A4-4E05-B5F2-3E4655F9614E%7D

I'm impressed with it. I assembled the wheels. Filled with fuel. It comes filled with oil. I pulled the cord to circulate some oil before pulling hard enough to make it start. The thing fired up with less than a 1/4 pull and the first pull at that! I plugged in some cursory hand tools. They all worked. I really wanted it to run my sump pump. Living next to the water our sump runs a lot. I have a battery back up. If she goes down and the pump does not run we will have a indoor pool. :down: So, the generator will take over if we loose electricity and my battery back up fizzles. This generator can frn the frig and stove. It is a nice one. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

My contingency plan in the case of my house being levelled is driving to Naval Weapon Station Earle, and begging for help, even sobbing like a baby if need be. 10 minute drive, in the worse weather.

God bless our military, i know those boys would help me.:)

Even with all my skepticism, I look to my government for help in the worst. I know they are not that corrupted.

The bases are closed but I would imagine they would take you in. Maybe throw you a rubber raft.

[GoldenRivet]

Im staging in frederick maryland friday to work insurance claims in the NE.

I'll probably know Friday afternoon or Saturday morning where ill end up.

i did NOT want to work the "off season" this year, but looks like i'll not have a choice.

any folks from the NE have recommendations of what a Texas boy should bring to survive the next few months up there?

EDIT:

keep in mind if i go to the local walmart and ask for snow chains... its doubtful they'd even know what that was.

[nikimcbee]

Im staging in frederick maryland friday to work insurance claims in the NE.


any folks from the NE have recommendations of what a Texas boy should bring to survive the next few months up there?

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Hopefully you'll do better than the last Texans that were in that area.
http://www.antietam.stonesentinels.com/Resources/AntietamConfederate/Texas-4c_3485.jpg

Go see the Antietam BF while you're there. Okay, maybe not with the current weather. You're not too far from there.

[AVGWarhawk]

any folks from the NE have recommendations of what a Texas boy should bring to survive the next few months up there?

Parka and clean skivvies. :up:

[GoldenRivet]

Hopefully you'll do better than the last Texans that were in that area.

Go see the Antietam BF while you're there. Okay, maybe not with the current weather. You're not too far from there.

I dont plan to parade march line abreast into a hail of gunfire.:salute:

[Takeda Shingen]

keep in mind if i go to the local walmart and ask for snow chains... its doubtful they'd even know what that was.

If it is like it was last winter, you won't need them.

[soopaman2]

My power kinda blinked 2 times with 5 minutes, My internet was off for about 10 minutes.

The wind is increasing alot, though the rain is kinda lackluster at the moment.

My best report will come this evening when we are eating the brunt of it, I am just keeping reports up, best I can.

Godspeed to all the guys in the interior getting snow. Snow sucks, it just does. Especially a blizzard

[yubba]

The lastest track into NewYork State puts the eye of it over my folks house in the Corning area it should be down to a tropical strom way before that, I hope. But I worry about the Lake affect snow off of lake Erie on the south side of the storm when it passes through New York State, I will be flying up there this coming sunday God willing.

[Rockstar]

Power blinked several times, eventually went put for about 40 minutes then came back on. Flooding is pretty severe, almost inside first floor of house, but should, I hope recede a little. Tonights tides are going to prolly reak a tad bit more havoc I think.

So far only water intrusion we have had in the house is from National Guard and City trucks plowing through and throwing a wake. Seems an ICW 'No Wake' zone sign is in order here. :O:

[Tribesman]

I will be flying up there this coming sunday God willing.
Careful yubba FEMA are up there waiting to put you in the FEMA death camps you rant about

[soopaman2]

The worse of this storm is the storm surge in constricted channels, like NJs many bays, and the rain.

Wind is meh, we are more worried about floods.

We in NJ and the NE in general get blowers worse than this, just not 2 converging storms at once.

We know our nor'easters here, but this is special, different. Will not wipe us out, sorry folks. :D

Ask anyone from NE coastal regions how bad Nor'easters can be. I am sure August can help me here, being a good NE boy that he is.

Just a blower, that wench Sandy.

I have to admit, the winds are kinda scary. I'll post as long as I have power, and use my phone to post until it dies.


I am watching my 49er game tonite, hell or highwater, if not both.:rock:

[Jimbuna]

Power blinked several times, eventually went put for about 40 minutes then came back on. Flooding is pretty severe, almost inside first floor of house, but should, I hope recede a little. Tonights tides are going to prolly reak a tad bit more havoc I think.

So far only water intrusion we have had in the house is from National Guard and City trucks plowing through and throwing a wake. Seems an ICW 'No Wake' zone sign is in order here. :O:

Good luck matey :up:

[Rockstar]

Arrrgh, the tide it still be 'ere. Though it has slowed it doesn't seem to be going down either. Strong west winds and the low pressure over the area are stacking it up on the eastern shore big time.

Crisfield, MD

[Takeda Shingen]

People are starting to call this a 'landscape altering' event. They're saying that after tonight's tide places like LBI will never be the same. Let's hope they can get the people out who are still there.

[soopaman2]

People are starting to call this a 'landscape altering' event. They're saying that after tonight's tide places like LBI will never be the same. Let's hope they can get the people out who are still there.


In my experience it is a overhyped sham.

As of now (3:43 eastern time) it is a (somewhat) dry windstorm.


I may be cringing later tonite, but as of now it is hype, and unicorn farts.

Storm surges are nasty, but this is not Katrina, our landscape is different here.

[Takeda Shingen]

In my experience it is a overhyped sham.

As of now (3:43 eastern time) it is a dry windstorm.


I may be cringing later tonite, but as of now it is hype, and unicorn farts.

Storm surges are nasty, but this is not Katrina, our kandscape is different here.

Okay. I'll stop listening to the people with the radar and defer to you.

[soopaman2]

Okay. I'll stop listening to the people with the radar and defer to you.


I am here on the ground, most the crap on the so called radar since last nite was not even touching the ground here.

Believe your radars. Over eyewitness accounts.

I speak on what is happening outside my door thank you, but you go on in your ignorance.

I acknowledged it can change as it comes ashore....

So you think I am full of crap?

Why would I lie? I am alot of things, not a liar.

Hotheaded, over the top, alot of things, but my eyes do not decieve me.

Nor do I wish to decieve others, I'll stop giving updates if you want.

[Takeda Shingen]

I am here on the ground

So am I.

EDIT: I'd happily address your points and reply further, but you won't stop editing your post so, meh.

I'll just leave it at that I am happy that you are not getting socked. Weather's pretty heavy here in Allentown, and it's a lot worse down south. The eye looks to be coming ashore between AC and LBI sometime between 6 and 8 tonight. God help those poor people who are there when it does.

[AVGWarhawk]

People are starting to call this a 'landscape altering' event. They're saying that after tonight's tide places like LBI will never be the same. Let's hope they can get the people out who are still there.

It can be landscape altering. Assawoman Bay was created by a hurricane. The resulting strip of land left behind is now Ocean City MD.

Officially the roads are closed in MD. I do my work from here at home as long as the juice keeps flowing. I can do much work from my smart phone as well. The wind is picking up and rain continues to pour. My sump has not cycled which means a lot of water is being absorbed by the ground. Eventually it will saturate and the old pump will be churning for weeks. For now she is silent. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

In my experience it is a overhyped sham.

As of now (3:43 eastern time) it is a (somewhat) dry windstorm.


I may be cringing later tonite, but as of now it is hype, and unicorn farts.

Storm surges are nasty, but this is not Katrina, our landscape is different here.

Katrina was like Thor's hammer. My trucks would drive from FL to TX and not be out of the field of debris and destruction.

[Takeda Shingen]

It can be landscape altering. Assawoman Bay was created by a hurricane. The resulting strip of land left behind is now Ocean City MD.

The wife and I were just talking about that! We vacation in OCMD every year, and that is a major part of local lore.

Be safe AVG.

[Jimbuna]

It can be landscape altering. Assawoman Bay was created by a hurricane. The resulting strip of land left behind is now Ocean City MD.

Officially the roads are closed in MD. I do my work from here at home as long as the juice keeps flowing. I can do much work from my smart phone as well. The wind is picking up and rain continues to pour. My sump has not cycled which means a lot of water is being absorbed by the ground. Eventually it will saturate and the old pump will be churning for weeks. For now she is silent. :up:

That's good to know Chris...keep the wife and the girls safe :sunny:

[soopaman2]

So am I.

EDIT: I'd happily address your points and reply further, but you won't stop editing your post so, meh.

I'll just leave it at that I am happy that you are not getting socked. Weather's pretty heavy here in Allentown, and it's a lot worse down south. The eye looks to be coming ashore between AC and LBI sometime between 6 and 8 tonight. God help those poor people who are there when it does.

I cannot spell well, and kinda suck at life, my edits was a result of bad grammer. Utterly bad sentence structure. I try to make sense, but my fingers do not match my brain at times.

Where I am, a half mile west of Asbury park, it is really windy, increasing by the minute, but not raining hard. All last nite I watched radars, showing torrential rain was over me,yet felt no rain when I walked outside.

I got no reason to lie...

I thought people may care about the point of view of someone actually on the coast...

But seeing as I am being called a bullcrapper by someone far inland...

Edit: I still love ya Takeda, no malice, I just respond badly to being called full of crap.

[Takeda Shingen]

I cannot spell well, and kinda suck at life, my edits was a result of bad grammer. Utterly bad sentence structure. I try to make sense, but my fingers do not match my brain at times.

Where I am, a half mile west of Asbury park, it is really windy, increasing by the minute, but not raining hard. All last nite I watched radars, showing torrential rain was over me,yet felt no rain when I walked outside.

I got no reason to lie...

I thought people may care about the point of view of someone actually on the coast...

But seeing as I am being called a bullcrapper by someone far inland...

First, I didn't call you a 'bullcrapper'. Don't go putting words in my mouth because you are pissed off.

Second, I am inland of you, but also south. It's been raining conastantly here since last night, and has been very heavy for the past four hours. Wind gusts have been in the 40's. I have some property damage that will need attention once this thing wraps up. Streams and rivers are heavily flooded and the road to town is washed out. I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.

Third, here's the track and links to radar:

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/feature?section=weather&id=8320373

Again, the trouble is south.

Fourth, again, I am glad that it isn't so bad for you. We in the southern portions of the area are getting hit harder. So, please, don't tell me that everything is ducky.

Fifth, I am so gald that we are fighting about this.

[soopaman2]

So am I.

EDIT: I'd happily address your points and reply further, but you won't stop editing your post so, meh.

I'll just leave it at that I am happy that you are not getting socked. Weather's pretty heavy here in Allentown, and it's a lot worse down south. The eye looks to be coming ashore between AC and LBI sometime between 6 and 8 tonight. God help those poor people who are there when it does.


The radar, is showing alot of yellow colors inland.

Sorry for the edits, but I am rock stupid with my spelling., I re read what I pressed enter to, and it looks like crap to me, sorry. I am too fast to hit the reply button. I get your point Daimyo-sama.

Where I am, a ton of wind, not alot of rain, nasty tidal surges in the towns I looked at (Asbury park, Bradley Beach, Avon by the Sea, Belmar, Spring lake, Manasquan, Brielle, Point pleasant)

I got a pal in Toms River, and he is getting hammered with rain, 20 miles or so south of me. Me not so much. Just nasty wind, knocking branches outta trees, and cauing power flickings, but no outright outages.

No edits on this one. You just gotta deal with my piss poor grammer.

[eddie]

My daughter and grandsons live 30 miles south of DC, she said the temp is dropping fast and winds are picking up. Worst part is supposed to hit late this afternoon or tonight.

[AVGWarhawk]

The wife and I were just talking about that! We vacation in OCMD every year, and that is a major part of local lore.

Be safe AVG.

OC MD is a great place for a vacation. My family goes every summer. I went every year when growing up. So many wonderful memories. OC has weathered other storms and will survive this one.

[u crank]

Wow. This is a nail biter of a thread. Hope all ends well.

Soopa, Rockstar, Takeda, AVGWarhawk and anyone else in the path, best of luck. Take care. We're thinking about you. Stay safe. :salute:

[AVGWarhawk]

My daughter and grandsons live 30 miles south of DC, she said the temp is dropping fast and winds are picking up. Worst part is supposed to hit late this afternoon or tonight.

The temps have dropped. The missus turned the heat on. She never does that. The height of the storm comes in the next few hours. The coastal cities will be battered to ruins. Inland, some flooding. Its the loss of electricity that will make it miserable for those without. By and large a bad storm but could be worse. We all have witnessed what mother nature can really do when pissed off.

[soopaman2]

We are all relying on AVG to save us, when my house floats away!

He's the real hero, the rest of us are just barely hanging on!:D

Praise him (AVG), the rest of us are just potential victims.:O:

[AVGWarhawk]

We are all relying on AVG to save us, when my house floats away!

He's the real hero, the rest of us are just barely hanging on!:D

Praise him (AVG), the rest of us are just potential victims.:O:

I'm just a cog in the overall gears that make it go. I'm certainly not a hero. Its part of my job. It's the front line guys on the ground that shoulder the load. I'm the dude they beat up when my trucks don't arrive timely. Some feel trucks can fly. I do not make promises. I advise what I can do. In doing so there are no surprises. Truck drivers do their best and are subject to the weather like anyone else. This is why I get a bit hot under the collar when folks complain. Really, people are working diligently to get supplies. But in this world of 'want right now' it is not good enough. Specifically line guys from other states fixing the electricity. These guys leave their families to restore electricity to a bunch of ingrates. All you hear is moaning because someone was without electricity for a few days.

[soopaman2]

I'm just a cog in the overall gears that make it go. I'm certainly not a hero. Its part of my job. It's the front line guys on the ground that shoulder the load. I'm the dude they beat up when my trucks don't arrive timely. Some feel trucks can fly. I do not make promises. I advise what I can do. In doing so there are no surprises. Truck drivers do their best and are subject to the weather like anyone else. This is why I get a bit hot under the collar when folks complain. Really, people are working diligently to get supplies. But in this world of 'want right now' it is not good enough. Specifically line guys from other states fixing the electricity. These guys leave their families to restore electricity to a bunch of ingrates. All you hear is moaning because someone was without electricity for a few days.


People should be ready themselves. Have some cans of Sterno, and a hibachi grill. Dry ice for the freezer and cases of water.

I got a genny myself, but I been through some nasty storms in my life.

You should always help yourself. It is the most reliable way. But knowing there is help on the way makes it alot easier.:salute:

[Catfish]

Whish you and all who are concerned good luck. Seems storm hits New York in roughly two hours.

All the best,
Catfish

[yubba]

Careful yubba FEMA are up there waiting to put you in the FEMA death camps you rant about
This will give you something to do,, besides putting words into my mouth, find where I ever ranted about a FEMA death camp, I know I talked about freshly dug ditches but no camps. AVG seems to have them under control. Hows the cell phones doing, my mom only has a land line, but she has satellite internet and a generator and my adopted Marine Corps brother is standing guard.

[Catfish]

Living in the woods (in Germany though) i wonder what i would do in such a situation - we have no storms like that yet of course.

A wood-fired stove and some candles would be the most important things to have ? And a power generator connected to the house electric supply - without energy our whole heating system with its ignition and electric pumps is useless.

[eddie]

The temps have dropped. The missus turned the heat on. She never does that. The height of the storm comes in the next few hours. The coastal cities will be battered to ruins. Inland, some flooding. Its the loss of electricity that will make it miserable for those without. By and large a bad storm but could be worse. We all have witnessed what mother nature can really do when pissed off.

She is pretty far inland, so worry more about flooding and power outage then anything else.

[Rockstar]

Well, after several brown outs and flickers the power in Crisfield, MD finally went out.

Winds are up to forecast speeds, reading the NHC discussions seems the increase in wind speeds wasn't from Sandy strengthening but rather it mixing with another front, or something like that.

Water made it just inside the front door so far then backed off a bit. Hopefully next high tide the winds will have changed a bit and not stack the water as high as it did earlier.

We just bought a house built in 1895 and are currently renovating it. One good thing about the rains is we are finding all the leaky areas that need fixin'. Anyways, as soon as the water recedes we're off to the marina to check on the boat.

[Rockstar]

Living in the woods (in Germany though) i wonder what i would do in such a situation - we have no storms like that yet of course.

A wood-fired stove and some candles would be the most important things to have ? And a power generator connected to the house electric supply - without energy our whole heating system with its ignition and electric pumps is useless.


Say Catfish, isn't there a super-volcano under Germany that is likely to erupt within 10 years?

[ABBAFAN]

This storm has been reclassed a 'post tropical cyclone' according to Sky News. Isn't a cyclone the same as a hurrican? I was under the impression it is called a cyclone in the Indian Ocean.

[mookiemookie]

Living in the woods (in Germany though) i wonder what i would do in such a situation - we have no storms like that yet of course.

A wood-fired stove and some candles would be the most important things to have ? And a power generator connected to the house electric supply - without energy our whole heating system with its ignition and electric pumps is useless.

I live in an apartment on the Gulf Coast where this sort of storm is relatively common.

My preparedness plan is as follows:

My parents live inland enough, and only an hour drive away from me, so worst comes to worse, I can go there. They have a whole-home generator so their power issues shouldn't be bad.

Every hurricane season, I buy 3 or 4 cases (36 pint bottles per case) of water. I have a battery powered ultra-bright lantern that runs on batteries (plenty of batteries stocked up) or a battery pack that I can charge in the car. I have plenty of flashlights and an emergency radio that can run on hand crank power. I also have 3 cases of military MREs, so that if the power's out, we have hot meals for 3 or 4 days. I also make sure my pets have plenty of food and my gas tank is full before any potential storm hits us.

Having my parents nearby is a godsend, and I'v evacuated there once before. Not fun, but you do what you gotta do.

[Rockstar]

This storm has been reclassed a 'post tropical cyclone' according to Sky News. Isn't a cyclone the same as a hurrican? I was under the impression it is called a cyclone in the Indian Ocean.


Not sure why the are described differently but to the best of my knowledge a cyclone and a hurricane are the same kind of storm.

[RickC Sniper]

They are the same thing. They are just called a different name by location for some reason. Atlantic = hurricane. Pacific and Indian ocean = cyclone.

[Onkel Neal]

Hang in there, guys

[Rockstar]

Water is going where it belongs back out in the bay rather in the house and winds have backed off considerably.

[CCIP]

Man, and here I thought I was safe! I got home about 40 minutes before the first bands of storms from it reached us yesterday, and not 10 minutes after they did, my power goes out for the rest of the night. And this is Canada. Well, I cracked open a beer and made the best of the situation :Kaleun_Cheers:

Good luck to those who are actually closer to this thing.

[Catfish]

Say Catfish, isn't there a super-volcano under Germany that is likely to erupt within 10 years?

In that case i won't need the candles, and the rest will be superfluous as well :yep:

Better watch out for you Yellowstone one :shucks:

[Jimbuna]

According to the reports I've read at least thirteen lives have already been lost...so stay safe all of you and the very best of luck.

[limkol]

Hope you guys stateside come out of this ok. My best wishes to you all and good luck getting back to normal as quickly as possible.

[Oberon]

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/508fc3a4ecad04dd0b00000c-785-290/staten-island-tanker-hurricane-sandy.jpeg
Staten Island

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/30/1351572244338/Floodwaters-from-hurrican-008.jpg
Hoboken Subway station

http://i.imwx.com/common/articles/images/wtc-flood-associatedpress_650x366.jpg
Ground Zero

[BossMark]

Been watching this on sky news most of this morning, my heart goes out to all those effected by this storm.

[Platapus]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/30/1351572244338/Floodwaters-from-hurrican-008.jpg
Hoboken Subway station


That looks like a scene from a Hollywood movie... but it ain't. :nope:

[Jimbuna]

Ground Zero hammers the situation home for me :huh:

[eddie]

Finally!!!!!!!!!!! Heard from my daughter this morning, electrical power is out, but they are ok. A long night of worry is over. My heart goes out to those who have suffered worse, its a real mess.

[eddie]

This is not good news, this storm will even cause problems in Chicago!!

"The massive storm reached well into the Midwest. Chicago officials warned residents to stay away from the Lake Michigan shore as the city prepared for winds of up to 60 mph and waves exceeding 24 feet well into Wednesday"

[Tribesman]

Looks like one of my aunts and one cousin have had their homes flooded.

[CCIP]

Friend of mine from Staten Island just appeared online after having a chance to see her family's house (that I stayed at when visiting NYC before), which is a couple of block away from the sea... this was her reaction:

i literally can't believe this happened. this is like a nightmare and i keep thinking i'm going to wake up.

The place is basically destroyed, think 6ft of sea water moving through a 1-storey house. Sadly, knowing that area, I suspect that is a common story there now.

If you know people in that area, check up on them. I think there is some pretty bad damage unfortunately :(

[eddie]

Sorry to hear that Tribesman and CCIP, sad day all the way around.

[Oberon]

The life cycle of Sandy:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/GOES13_NH_IR4_SandyLife.gif

May take a while to load.

[eddie]

Here's a picture NASA took of the storm when it was off the coast of the Carolinas, its huge!!! Might take a bit to load too, but worth it.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/sunday-photos-sandy/800297

[Jimbuna]

The UK weather forecast last night was saying it was over a thousand miles in diameter and could easily cover the UK and most of western europe combined.

[CCIP]

The UK weather forecast last night was saying it was over a thousand miles in diameter and could easily cover the UK and most of western europe combined.

Yes indeed! It successfully knocked out my power last night here in Canada, 3 hours before it even made landfall in NJ on the atlantic shore. That is not a small distance at all.

[yubba]

Water is going where it belongs back out in the bay rather in the house and winds have backed off considerably.
Glad you are ok, any word on spoonaman, well we will keep pumping that warm florida air to you but you can keep that cold up there it will be in the 40s tonight.

[Betonov]

well we will keep pumping that warm florida air to you

Hurricanes feed on warm air. Canada and Alaska should pump some of their arctic breeze down to kill it.

After the damn thing turned into a local shower you should start pumping warm air. For the rebuilding effort.

Hell, the rebuilding would be in november, december, january :o

[Rockstar]

Got power, water, and cell phone service back on last night. But we have been too tired to do much in the way of clean-up until today.

We have a boat we lived on for about 8 years here at the marina. We intended on staying on it when the storm hit. Wanted to do a last minute check on the house we recently bought here so off we went. Though we're renovating it has hot and cold running water, heat, electricity, lights. Wife was talking about taking a bath before we went back to the boat. Within 10 minutes of saying that, the water had risen making it impossible to return to the boat and kept rising. On top of that the water levels knocked out the boiler fuel pump so there went our heat and hot water. Couple of hours after that city power went out. Slept on the second floor with a few old tarps for cover which made for a cold night, but hey, it was kinda like cruising so we were used to it.

Got back to the marina about 6 AM boat was unscathed which is good because that is where we had water, food, generators and comfort. Unfortunately others at the marina were not so fortunate. A few boats had been dismasted, jibs were blown out and other boats had their hulls damaged from pressing up on the dock. Anyways not to blow too much sunshine up my backsides but looking around the marina you tell the difference between wannabe sailors and the real ones. :arrgh!:

Time to clean up the neighborhood now.

[TarJak]

All the best Rockstar. Hope you and the family get some support and help in the clean up.

Some shots and video from the disaster zone: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/inferno-destroys-new-york-homes-as-sandy-takes-huge-bite-out-of-big-apple-20121030-28i6t.html

[Jimbuna]

Got power, water, and cell phone service back on last night. But we have been too tired to do much in the way of clean-up until today.

We have a boat we lived on for about 8 years here at the marina. We intended on staying on it when the storm hit. Wanted to do a last minute check on the house we recently bought here so off we went. Though we're renovating it has hot and cold running water, heat, electricity, lights. Wife was talking about taking a bath before we went back to the boat. Within 10 minutes of saying that, the water had risen making it impossible to return to the boat and kept rising. On top of that the water levels knocked out the boiler fuel pump so there went our heat and hot water. Couple of hours after that city power went out. Slept on the second floor with a few old tarps for cover which made for a cold night, but hey, it was kinda like cruising so we were used to it.

Got back to the marina about 6 AM boat was unscathed which is good because that is where we had water, food, generators and comfort. Unfortunately others at the marina were not so fortunate. A few boats had been dismasted, jibs were blown out and other boats had their hulls damaged from pressing up on the dock. Anyways not to blow too much sunshine up my backsides but looking around the marina you tell the difference between wannabe sailors and the real ones. :arrgh!:

Time to clean up the neighborhood now.

Good to know you all came out of it relatively okay :sunny:

I believe at least forty people have lost their lives now.

[August]

The power is still out at Che August as of this morning. Last word I heard was it might not be back on until the weekend. :down:

[Onkel Neal]

Glad you and the boat are OK, post some pics.

[RickC Sniper]

Takeda and Soops have not checked in since the 29th.

[CCIP]

Takeda and Soops have not checked in since the 29th.

Given where they live, I would not be surprised if their power is out. There's a lot of areas where they say the light's not gonna be back on until weekend at earliest...

[RickC Sniper]

What a story. Geeze, this neighborhood went through hell.


BREEZY POINT, N.Y. — As Hurricane Sandy turned the streets of this community into raging rivers on Monday evening, one company of volunteer firefighters ditched their rescue boats and sought refuge in the community center. Inside they found another bunch of volunteer firefighters, also stranded by rising water, who asked, "Are you here to rescue us?"

That was shortly before 70-mph winds blew embers the size of baseballs through the heart of this close-knit community on the Rockaway Peninsula in New York City’s Queens borough.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/01/14842393-wind-flames-our-fathers-the-inside-story-of-breezy-points-terrible-night?lite

[Takeda Shingen]

Checking in. No power at home yet but we are with my brother further inland. Hope everyone else is okay and hope to be back full time soon!

[CCIP]

Checking in. No power at home yet but we are with my brother further inland. Hope everyone else is okay and hope to be back full time soon!

As I thought!

Good to hear you're fine, good luck cleaning up after this thing :salute:

[RickC Sniper]

So Tak, what did YOU do for Halloween?

:D

[Jimbuna]

Checking in. No power at home yet but we are with my brother further inland. Hope everyone else is okay and hope to be back full time soon!

Great to know all is okay :sunny:

[Oberon]

Death toll is at 80 now, and still set to rise unfortunately, however given the scale of the storm, it shows how well prepared the East Coast is, and how better things have gotten since the Long Island Express of '38 which killed between 600 and 800.
Equally though, this is going to be a lot more expensive to clean up from, probably only beaten by Katrina.

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/509139d1eab8eaac1d000006-800-534/new-york-hurricane-sandy-flooding-subway.jpg

Just cleaning out and fixing the Subway system will take weeks. But, if there's any city in America that can bounce back from something like this, it's New York, the melting pot of the country. Good luck guys. :salute:

[August]

I've been in those subways. Believe me they could use the soaking. :)

[Platapus]

I suspect that NY and NJ will repair/rebuild itself a lot faster than NO and MS after Katrina.

[Onkel Neal]

Checking in. No power at home yet but we are with my brother further inland. Hope everyone else is okay and hope to be back full time soon!

Good to hear from you, keep us posted.

[AVGWarhawk]

I suspect that NY and NJ will repair/rebuild itself a lot faster than NO and MS after Katrina.


Sandy was a rain shower compared to Katrina.

[Jimbuna]

Just seen the news on tv and there are still power outages and a shortage of fuel.

It was suggested by one source it could still be a week before the above is addressed.

[Onkel Neal]

Sandy was a rain shower compared to Katrina.

That's true. The east coast just rarely sees any real storms and they are not prepared for them, their infrastructure is a lot like NO, built at or below sea level.

[joea]

Well my sis lives in Queens, they have power but no internet, TV or landline. I've gotten a few texts from her and they are ok, a tree took out a car parked near their house and also took out their digital connection.

Glad you are all ok!

[yubba]

You folks in ground zero see all those abandon cars there are batteries and wire and light bulbs, or they are a warm place to sleep.

[August]

'No Red Tape'? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews



WAFF-TV of Hunstville, AL reports:Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees....
Understandably, Moore said they're frustrated being told "thanks, but no thanks."
With so much at stake--and lives still in danger--it would seem logical to tell special interests to step aside.
On Wednesday, while visiting cleanup efforts in New Jersey in the company of Gov. Chris Christie, President Barack Obama vowed: "We are not going to tolerate red tape, we are not going to tolerate bureaucracy."
Unless, of course, that red tape is enforced by Obama's union cronies. Then stranded residents have to wait.



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/02/New-Jersey-Turns-Away-Nonunion-Relief-Crews

[AVGWarhawk]

That's true. The east coast just rarely sees any real storms and they are not prepared for them, their infrastructure is a lot like NO, built at or below sea level.

I won't belay the fact these people got nailed but many were not prepared. They survived Irene with no issue and expected the same from Sandy. We have seen large storms here in the east but the Gulf gets the majority and certainly the strongest. Katrina was simply a ball of energy we may witness only once in our lifetime. I hope to never see it again.

Today I dropped 20 loads of water to Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn. One of the drivers went under a low bridge. The trailer hit and it's back was broken. 53 feet of trailer snapped in two. The water was hand unloaded to a smaller truck and delivered to Floyd. Another trailer bites the dust. I could tell you some good stories about my trailers. Still looking for some used for Katrina. Eventually FEMA pays if the trailer is never found.

Turn a reefer full of food off for a month in the hot Louisiana sun. Talk about stench....:dead: Some of my trailers are used as a mortuary. I had three truckloads of bodies from Katrina. All unidentified. We watch on the TV as the waters rise, the rain fall and wind blows. We sit in our easy chair watching. They never show the bodies. The trailers move at night. The local police follow. Those not identified are cremated. Many talk about relief efforts. Clean up rarely discussed. If at all. Quite depressing.

[yubba]

The clock is ticking, the main thing is water, you don't have it your dead, I've seen military trucks but no water trailers, bottled water is fine, bulk water is easier to move. Those trailer are an engieering marvle ridgid as hell but once broken it's spagetti.

[AVGWarhawk]

The clock is ticking, the main thing is water, you don't have it your dead, I've seen military trucks but no water trailers, bottled water is fine, bulk water is easier to move. Those trailer are an engieering marvle ridgid as hell but once broken it's spagetti.

The trailer is designed to transport a specific weight. Often the trailer is loaded heavier than it can handle. It is not the first time one of my 53's has been snapped in two. We scale them and then handed a waiver to run heavy. Hours of service lifted. Again, the logistics is taunting. Tankers with fuel need to be brought in to fill trucks and reefers. Just as the filling stations are out of fuel/gas for cars, so are they for tractors and reefers. Often cell towers are down. Satellite phones are used. Tankers of potable water are utilized.

Do you recall the tsunami that hit Pago pago? Planes landing on a very short runway at Pago Page had no fuel to fly back to Hawaii for more relief supplies. A tanker aircraft was flown in. The effort was slow as aircraft had trouble getting in. Not until my office charter a Antonov did the supplies start rolling in. Quite a aircraft the Russians designed. Some damn fine pilots operating the aircraft. Haiti was another logistical nightmare. Helicopter charter was the best way to get food and medicine to the remote regions. Heck, most of Haiti is remote regions.

The point is, each natural disaster pose their ow n challenges. Every storm, earthquake or out of control fire I worked relief have all been a different challenge.

[nikimcbee]

@AVG
Are you able to post any pictures?

[AVGWarhawk]

I have posted a few in the past. Mostly my trucks in a staging areas. Nothing of real interest or you have seen in the news already. We asked for pictures of my trailer broken in two. Insurance reasons. I have not seen them. Drivers will take a few pictures and share. Most just go about the task at hand. In short, no pictures to share. Just memories of oddball happenings and odd things people do at times like this.

Here is Irene and my trailers staged

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=187643&highlight=irene

[soopaman2]

My power is still out. Message will be short. I hate typing with my phone. Belmar is underwater, and our barrier islands do not exist anymore. The storm surge was phenominal. It seems like every tree in the state exploded and took out wires. My particular substation was underwater when the storm surge pushed a good 10 feet of water up the river. I got some pics but not many, as i got out of my news reporter shtick when branches started landing in my bedroom. Seeya again when my juice is back on.

[u crank]

My power is still out. Message will be short. I hate typing with my phone. Belmar is underwater, and our barrier islands do not exist anymore. The storm surge was phenominal. It seems like every tree in the state exploded and took out wires. My particular substation was underwater when the storm surge pushed a good 10 feet of water up the river. I got some pics but not many, as i got out of my news reporter shtick when branches started landing in my bedroom. Seeya again when my juice is back on.

Good to hear from you Soopa. You guys took a big hit.

We've been thinking about you. Keep in touch.

[Jimbuna]

Pleased to learn you are safe soopaman2 :cool:

[Rockstar]

Good to hear from you soopaman2. :woot: Hope life gets back on track for you real soon. :salute:

[yubba]

Well I made it to New York {Corning area} no damage a few limbs down, saw a snow flurry,, well they say it's going to be 19 degrees F tonight so you folks in sandys ground zero will see 30s I guess if you haven't done it yet you folks with no power should find a nice insulated room in your home and turn it in to a family bedroom, you all sleep together it will be warmer because of the body heat, and please be careful with any fueled heaters make sure you have plenty of ventalation.

[yubba]

Like throwing salt into a wound, sorry that the weather turned on you folks with no power,,.stay warm and dry. It might sound foolish but it might be fun for the kids, building table forts,, get what blankets you are not using or curtains and drape them over a table like a tent makes a warm place in a cold house, put bedding in there to..

[yubba]

Now that the wind has die down, you folks that lost power should think about safely building a fire, a trick that I'll pass along is find a metal bucket fill it with stone, broken concrete, or brick not to the point that you can't carry it put it over the fire and heat it, try not to melt the pail, find something nonflameable, to sit pail on like a metal chair, or a cinderblock so you can safely sit it down on,, in side your home, or that table fort that I told you about.

[geetrue]

I feel so blessed sitting here with a heater on high watching CNN and surfing the web.

Sorry so many are suffering ... they won't forget the end of 2012 that's for sure

[soopaman2]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/Soopaman2/CAM00091.jpg

This wall bore the brunt of the 90 mph winds.

So did this car...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/Soopaman2/CAM00087.jpg


This link provides a sat pic of Matoloking NJ,. A sleepy town on the barrier islands that suffered 99% losses.
http://www.ouramazingplanet.com/3729-east-coast-beach-storm-threat.html

The destroyed bridge, used to be state highway 35.

Too lazy to host them, just click it. It is worth it.

I got my power back 10 days later, then lost it again when a heavy wet slushy snow fell, and pulled down weakened wires and trees.

This storm is the worse I ever saw, not alot of rain, but the damage...

I am back again, damn I missed you guys. :)

I wish I had more pics, but survival kinda took over beyond archiving, it got real freaking bad here.

I found myself unprepared, as "we never get it this bad inland" Never again.

[Stealhead]

I can relate Soopaman back in 2004 my part of Florida got hit by two canes with in a few weeks of each other Charley and then Frances.I live about 40 miles inland so we did not have to deal with surges but it took out lots of cars and living rooms around here and whole homes closer to the coast.I got very lucky and had no serious damage besides trees that had to be cleared.

After the first storm the power was out for 12 days after the second an amazing 14 days all in the summer heat no power is much worse in the winter though.I'm just glad that we never got hit with Katrina or Sandy strength storms cat 5s.

I have some family that lives on the other side of Lake Pontchartrain their house got washed away completely by Katrina luckily they where not in the area at the time and are wealthy so it was not as much of a loose to them as it would have been to others still loosing your home is always lame.

[soopaman2]

Stealhead :)

I feel bad whining about a hurricane to guys from down south. Florida gets these all the time.

We up here are vulnerable due to our coastline shape. Yeah making excuses. Storm surge, and winds killed us, the rain was kinda unimpressive.


They are calling it superstorm sandy in the media, due to the fact it was subtropical when it creamed us. 90 mph winds? Subtropical? Your the weatherman, not me :)

But still second behind Katrina in damage caused ($)

Except we evacuated when told to do so, unlike Katrina.

[mookiemookie]

Glad to see you personally made it through in one piece.

[Stealhead]

Stealhead :)

I feel bad whining about a hurricane to guys from down south. Florida gets these all the time.

We up here are vulnerable due to our coastline shape. Yeah making excuses. Storm surge, and winds killed us, the rain was kinda unimpressive.


They are calling it superstorm sandy in the media, due to the fact it was subtropical when it creamed us. 90 mph winds? Subtropical? Your the weatherman, not me :)

But still second behind Katrina in damage caused ($)

Except we evacuated when told to do so, unlike Katrina.

After Andrew back in 92(or 93) which devastated much of south Florida including an Air Force base the state began to require much stricter building codes and in many coastal counties in the southern part of the state have even stricter standards.

Now the issue of coastlines and how close we like to build to the water is another issue though nature has that buffer zone for a reason after all.

Hopefully things will be learned from Sandy.

Hindsight is better than foresight when it comes to Katrina the last storm of that scale was Andrew and it hit Florida and after Andrew crying wolf became a bit common.Katrina wound up being very bad especially in Mississippi where they got the full force and in New Orleans what screwed them was infrastructure that was not able to handle what it faced.Another issue for New Orleans was that many people there do not own a car down that way and there was not really adequate means for these people to leave even if they wanted to.You must also remember that the last serious hurricane to hit N.O. before Katrina was way back in the 60's and people tend to forget things after a while.

It is odd how some regions just dodge a bullet take the North Atlantic coast of Florida from St. Augustine to Jacksonville on up into Southern Georgia that region has never been hit by a hurricane in recorded history.I think they have come in near or a little above Savannah but never lower until you get past St. Augustine.

Post Katrina everyone saw what can happen and now warnings tend to be taken much more seriously.though as you yourself said you where not really prepared well enough.


Wind speed does not have to get that high to cause damage either even a steady 60mph wind over several hours can do a good bit of damage.Then you have the surge near the coast which is in my opinion the real killer.Further inland in most cases is where you get more rain.Back in 2004 we had tons of rain and that is what took down most trees all the water weighing them down combined with the winds it was just too much for the root system and the tree would just flop over.

The worst part for me was Charley which had strong winds and tons of rain around 2:00 in the morning(I cant sleep during hurricane I assume most people cant) I could hear this very loud wind but it did not make the same sound as what a tornado is supposed to make it was a really creepy noise like the start of doomsday or something.Before I could really react it went away.
Next day I looked across the road from my house into this patch of pine forest right in the middle of it was a 80 wide circle like a giant fist had punched down all the trees it looked like a mini-Tunguska (place in Siberia not the AAA vehicle).It was something and what ever that was it must have been the loud noise I had heard good thing it was not right over a home when it happened.

[Oberon]

Next day I looked across the road from my house into this patch of pine forest right in the middle of it was a 80 wide circle like a giant fist had punched down all the trees it looked like a mini-Tunguska (place in Siberia not the AAA vehicle).It was something and what ever that was it must have been the loud noise I had heard good thing it was not right over a home when it happened.

:o I wonder what the devil that was, I guess it could have been a very powerful microbust, but even so, that's pretty damn powerful!


You're spot on in what you say, Katrina and Sandy are similar in that they both hit an area that was not expecting them. They were also unusual storms, Katrina was a powerful hurricane, and Sandy was massive in size.
What also doesn't help in keeping the cost of hurricanes down is that everything is more expensive and more developed in cities now, so a hurricane that came ashore in 1960 would cause less in terms of dollars damage, but kill more, than one coming ashore today. Obviously that doesn't always scale accurately, but generally speaking when you look at costliest hurricanes in US history, they're gathering around the post-2000 era for the most part (Katrina, Sandy, Irene, Ike) except for Andrew which was a damn nasty hurricane.