View Full Version : Hello to all and a couple questions from a new guy..
I purchased SH3 (with seawolves expansion pack) a couple years ago and just now installed and getting into this game and I gotta say so far I love it.
I have patched it to 1.4 and recently added SH3_XPSP2_Res_Fix_for_1.4b which helped the graphics alot. I am running it in 1920x1080 since that is my monitors native resolution, now should I try setting a higher resolution to try and get better graphics or is there another graphic tweek anyone could recommend?
I have also downloaded GW3.0 Expansion but that was a while ago, how do I know if it is the gold edition?
And finally, how should i progress in adding different mods to the original, for the moment I am just playing right out the box (havent even installed seawolves expansion pack) but would like to add other mods as well, any good ones I should be considering?
Thanks for any help anyone is willing to provide
Sailor Steve
10-13-12, 02:19 PM
WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:
If this 'Seawolves expansion pack' is from X-1 games, then don't install it. It's a very old "mod" made by people who stole mods from Subsim modders, put them together and sold them for profit. There are now newer and better versions, or mods that replaced them all, and they are free.
If you're talking about something else, forget I said anything.
Oh, and GWX3 is the only edition, and it's also called "gold", so you're fine with it.
There are a huge number of mods which work with GWX. A good place to start is here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170090
thanks for the input, it is an X-1 game so I wont even bother.
I wound up installing the SH3 commander but, I would go to periscope, left click and look around but when I left clicked again it would launch a torpedo...couldnt figure out why this was happening, if I had a tube selected it was firing a torpedo. I then tried to install GW3 and it said something about a Jonesoft.txt file being corrupt.
Reluctantly I uninstalled everything (thinking commander and GW3 were not compatable) and fresh intall, patched to 1.4 and tried again to install GW3 and got the same exact error. When I tried to skip this file every file after that had some kind of error.
What am I doing wrong here? Am I gonna have to go thru the whole academy thing again before I start another career now?
Cybermat47
10-13-12, 05:38 PM
WELCOME
TO
SUBSIM!
I wound up installing the SH3 commander but, I would go to periscope, left click and look around but when I left clicked again it would launch a torpedo...couldnt figure out why this was happening, if I had a tube selected it was firing a torpedo. I then tried to install GW3 and it said something about a Jonesoft.txt file being corrupt.
Reluctantly I uninstalled everything (thinking commander and GW3 were not compatable) and fresh intall, patched to 1.4 and tried again to install GW3 and got the same exact error. When I tried to skip this file every file after that had some kind of error.
What am I doing wrong here? Am I gonna have to go thru the whole academy thing again before I start another career now?It's a widescreen issue. Because the GUI gets squished and stretched into a wider screen the cursor location get's misinterpreted or something. I have not use the ResFix mod myself, but this has been a common quirk with them. I don't know if this can be fixed.
Herr-Berbunch
10-13-12, 05:53 PM
SH3+Commander+GWX3 all work wonderfully together, the jonesoft.txt file I would guess is from the mod enabler - JSGME - as it's just the text file I'd ignore it but now you seem to have made it worse. :doh:
If it was me at this point I'd uninstall everything (sh3+mod wise, including stuff in My Docs. folder), then run a registry cleaner and install fresh. Read through the install details for SH3 (get rid of StarForce! - see the installing on Win 7 thread), JSGME and GWX, follow them to the letter and you shouldn't have any more problems.
Once you're up and running with GWX I don't think (but will no doubt be corrected if I'm wrong :) ) that you need to do the academy stuff again.
If your native resolution is 1920x1080 and the game is fine with that why try for another resolution, especially one your monitor wasn't designed for? (Edit, just read Pisces' post above. Ignore me.)
Very important - bin the X-1 stuff! Don't let anyone else get their mitts on it.
Finally, for now, welcome aboard :salute:
u crank
10-13-12, 07:57 PM
Welcome to SUBSIM SIcane. :salute:
Sailor Steve
10-13-12, 08:14 PM
the jonesoft.txt file I would guess is from the mod enabler - JSGME -
It's also possible that you haven't installed the Commander compatability file that GWX needs. There is a link above Jimbuna's signature that will lead you to that file.
Take H-B's advice about reinstalling everything. If your copy of SH3 is older (earlier than 2008) then you will need to run the StarForce removal, as advised. If it is 2008 or newer then it doesn't have StarForce and you're okay.
Once you're up and running with GWX I don't think (but will no doubt be corrected if I'm wrong :) ) that you need to do the academy stuff again.
If the entire game is uninstalled and the My Documents and registry cleaned you will have to do the Academy again. Trust me, I've reinstalled dozens of times. The bad news is that GWX makes parts of the Academy harder. The good news is that you only have to do the Navigation Course to get the full 1500 starting renown.
And yeah, the torpedo firing problem is a resolution thing.
Jimbuna
10-14-12, 04:16 AM
Welcome to SubSim SIcane and the link for theGXWX3_SH3 Commandercfg file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?c4oakjnc3tynwk5
http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/welcome.gif
Red Heat
10-14-12, 07:04 AM
Welcome! :)
Herr-Berbunch
10-14-12, 08:09 AM
It's also possible that you haven't installed the Commander compatability file that GWX needs. There is a link above Jimbuna's signature that will lead you to that file.
That had completely escaped me. :doh:
I think I have a corrupt GW3 file. I did a fresh install, patched to 1.4 then tried to install GW3 and before it begins to load the first file (file mentioned above) I get the error. If I ignore that file, every file after that gives me an error too. I am not sure what this Starforce is but I am running XP so not sure if it applies to XP. One of the files I am telling to ignore is, data/air, which is trying to install Stuka airplanes. I don't see an air file in data at all. Is GW3 creating this file?
I recently got a virus a I am afraid to download anything at this point. But it definitely seems like I need a new GW3 file.
As far as the resolution goes, I decided on 1680 x 1050 and had no problems. Doesn't look as good as 1920 x 1080 but at least it is working correctly.
Thanks again for all your help, I really want to get this resolved.
Sailor Steve
10-14-12, 10:16 AM
StarForce was a security scheme that came with certain games (including SH3). It had the unfortunate side effect of deciding that certain disc drives were pirated and shutting them down. I never had the problem, but for some it was quite serious.
As I said, look on the box the game came in. If it's 2008 or newer, you're safe. If not, use the removal tool or get a newer copy.
As for your GWX problems, it may well be corrupted. Where did you get it from? You might want to download it again, preferably from Jimbuna's sig link.
uuhhhh, this cant be good...it says 2005 on the back of the box, I dont see Starforce but it did install "Game Shadow"...is this along the same lines? Maybe I should skip this during installation? Are there any advantages to installing Commander with GW3 cause I am considering not installing commander at all.
I downloaded GW3 a while back when I first got the game I am gonna say 4-5 years ago. I just started hoarding files for the game cause you know how it is, alot of the files are here today and gone tomorrow even though I never installed the game. I do know I downloaded it from the GW site though.
Sailor Steve
10-14-12, 12:07 PM
uuhhhh, this cant be good...it says 2005 on the back of the box, I dont see Starforce but it did install "Game Shadow"...is this along the same lines? Maybe I should skip this during installation? Are there any advantages to installing Commander with GW3 cause I am considering not installing commander at all.
Game Shadow is just an annoying attempt to sell you stuff. It does no harm. On the other hand you do have StarForce. No, they don't say anything on the box, but it's there. You need to run the StarForce removal tool or go to Amazon.com and buy a newer copy. That's what I finally did, as they are very cheap. If you should make that choice be sure to use the link at the bottom of the page or in the 'Quick Links' option at the top. It will take you to a link to Amazon that guartees Subsim.com will get a small cut.
SH3 Commander is the best tool for the game ever made, arguably more important than the supermods. It works outside the game, and has several functions.
1) It lets you change several parameters, such as underwater density, wave height and gun reload rates, all with a single click of the mouse button.
2) It provides a full career for your captain, including birth date and place, training background and other things.
3) It provides a database of real crew names, separating first and last names to provide a possible 1.7 billion name combinations.
4) It provides a real historical name, cargo loadout and crew number for every ship you sink.
It does more things as well, but that should be enough to convince you.
I really don't want to get a new copy. Is removing it pretty cut and dry or am I gonna have issues? Will it mess up other games if I uninstall?
I really don't want to get a new copy. Is removing it pretty cut and dry or am I gonna have issues? Will it mess up other games if I uninstall?
http://www.star-force.com/support/drivers/
*Starwolf*
10-14-12, 02:08 PM
As far as the resolution goes, I decided on 1680 x 1050 and had no problems. Doesn't look as good as 1920 x 1080 but at least it is working correctly.
Look this post (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1943295&postcount=33), that guy posted a solution that can solve the problem, with that fix I can play at 1920x1080 without accidentally firing torpedoes.
Red October1984
10-14-12, 02:19 PM
That had completely escaped me. :doh:
I think you've been flying too long. I have the same problem. I havent played SH3 in months because of a periscope issue i never solved.
I started up yesterday and fixed it. Ive died twice of the 2 times ive been in the Atlantic.
Maybe i'll just stick to my trusty Bf-109.... :hmmm:
ok, this is getting beyond frustrating. Let me tell you what is going on over here...
1. Removed everything.
2. Ran CCleaner and repaired registry.
3. Installed SH3.
4. Ran Starforce removal which then told me to restart.
5. After restart, I ran SH3 and first thing that pops up is "protection system" (Is this Starforce?) "Application installed successfully. Reboot computer to complete installation". It then asked to continue. If I say no, it does nothing so I say yes and it restarts my computer again.
6. Run SH3, says checking disk still but game starts.
7. Install Patch 1.4. Start SH3 and protection system application installed successfully again. Same as 5. So I restart again. And same crap, seems like the starforce is still there. Still can't install GWX3 and just out of ideas.
Is there a zip file containing GWX3? I tried changing EXE extension to ZIP which has worked in some cases but not this case. What am I doing wrong?
Sorry so many questions but I have dozens of games with dozens of mods attached to them and have never encountered any problems like this game is causing me.
Sailor Steve
10-14-12, 08:09 PM
Five bucks, already patched to 1.4, no StarForce.
http://www.amazon.com/Encore-16560-Silent-Hunter-2/dp/B0017HIH6O/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1350263266&sr=1-2&keywords=silent+hunter+3
No muss, no fuss, no headaches. I paid $45 for SH3 brand new, and I still bought this as soon as it was out.
Look this post (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1943295&postcount=33), that guy posted a solution that can solve the problem, with that fix I can play at 1920x1080 without accidentally firing torpedoes.
"This will make every Torpedo Launch button in the game unclickable, meaning the only way to launch is to use Ctrl+Enter"
Thanks Starwolf, I actually read that post yesterday but decided I would rather sacrifice some image qualit than disable torpedo launch button.
Five bucks, already patched to 1.4, no StarForce.
http://www.amazon.com/Encore-16560-Silent-Hunter-2/dp/B0017HIH6O/ref=sr_1_2?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1350263266&sr=1-2&keywords=silent+hunter+3
No muss, no fuss, no headaches. I paid $45 for SH3 brand new, and I still bought this as soon as it was out.
Thanks steve I am gonna do that right now, so anything I buy now should be good to go? Dont want to get stuck with a 2005 issue again.
Sailor Steve
10-14-12, 08:53 PM
Yep, the version I linked to is the one I've been using for at least three years now. If you click on the Subsim Amazon link at the top right corner of the page it will take you there, and Neal gets a tiny cut as well. :rock:
Yep, the version I linked to is the one I've been using for at least three years now. If you click on the Subsim Amazon link at the top right corner of the page it will take you there, and Neal gets a tiny cut as well. :rock:
well I had my girl order it on her amazon account right after you posted the link so I guess I kinda screwed neal on that one...sorry neal, but I do plan on making a donation to the site so that should even things out a bit.
I want to thank you steve and all others that have offered up their help. Should get it by the weekend so hopefully all goes smooth and I look forward to visiting the board again soon.
Sailor Steve
10-15-12, 05:28 PM
well I had my girl order it on her amazon account right after you posted the link so I guess I kinda screwed neal on that one...sorry neal, but I do plan on making a donation to the site so that should even things out a bit.
It's all cool. The cut is small, and I'm embarrassed to admit how many times I've ordered stuff and simply forgotten. It happens. On the other hand, every little bit helps, and donations are always welcome.
Red October1984
10-15-12, 09:48 PM
Always good to see a new SH3 player.
I've just gotten back into the game. I haven't played since probably May.
so I got the game tonight, installed no problem. Started up and saw 1.4 in the corner.
Went to my GWX3.exe and installed into sh3 root folder, looked good I could hear wolves in the background howling but as soon as the first file begins to install I get the same exact errors as before.
So now I am thinking I got a bad copy of GWX3, try to dl it again but both links go to Gamefront which is nothing but a refresh every second to nowhere. I feel like I am about to get hit with a virus at any time. Needless to say I was unsuccessful in downloading a new version.
I also have (and I have no idea where I got this from) 7 files that are GWX3-1 thru GWX3-7.bin What exactly are these files and where should they go?
Sailor Steve
10-19-12, 11:42 PM
The seven files should all go into one folder (call it anything you like, but GWX works as good as anything). Then run the .exe. If you have them in separate places that may be why the install is failing.
If that doesn't work, go to any post by Jimbuna and follow the link above his sig. Guaranteed good file. Also it's my understanding that the one in the GWX homepage (also available from Jim's sig) is a good working copy.
I have just about had it with this game, I put those files in one file. Ran exe and same crap, put everything into root and ran exe and same crap, went to download new GWX3 and same crap, the sig under jimbunas page to mediafire doesnt take me to that file, wants me to sign in...I dont have an account and when I try to download from GW site which takes you to gamefront, I see the file there GWX3.exe and select it but it just refreshes the page every second and goes nowhere. I use Internet explorer and have had maddddd problems with gamefront in the past, I bet I can dl it with mozilla and I bet I get a virus, same crap that happened to me in the past. Like I said I have dozens of games with dozens of mods and have NEVER EVER EVER had these problems, I guarantee one thing it has nothing to do with anything I am doing.
Where did those 7 files even come from. If I download GWX3 from anyones site I would get these 7 files plus the EXE? I see there are also seperate downloads for GWX3-1 thru 7.bin, would one need to dl those plus the exe or just the exe?
What is this JSGME file it is referrin to? Is there something else I have to install after installation of the game? I installed game and went straight to trying to install GWX3 and no luck, is there a step in between I dont know about? Seems like a monkey could do it so what could the problem possibly be?
Jimbuna
10-20-12, 10:08 AM
I have just about had it with this game, I put those files in one file. Ran exe and same crap, put everything into root and ran exe and same crap, went to download new GWX3 and same crap, the sig under jimbunas page to mediafire doesnt take me to that file, wants me to sign in...I dont have an account and when I try to download from GW site which takes you to gamefront, I see the file there GWX3.exe and select it but it just refreshes the page every second and goes nowhere. I use Internet explorer and have had maddddd problems with gamefront in the past, I bet I can dl it with mozilla and I bet I get a virus, same crap that happened to me in the past. Like I said I have dozens of games with dozens of mods and have NEVER EVER EVER had these problems, I guarantee one thing it has nothing to do with anything I am doing.
Where did those 7 files even come from. If I download GWX3 from anyones site I would get these 7 files plus the EXE? I see there are also seperate downloads for GWX3-1 thru 7.bin, would one need to dl those plus the exe or just the exe?
What is this JSGME file it is referrin to? Is there something else I have to install after installation of the game? I installed game and went straight to trying to install GWX3 and no luck, is there a step in between I dont know about? Seems like a monkey could do it so what could the problem possibly be?
Links to ALL my GWX files:
GWX3.exe http://www.mediafire.com/?rrc1f9j3zhz0p79
GWX3.1 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?i134px2bbp9rnp2
GWX3.2 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?szsdqpy2z56ckeo
GWX3.3 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?mj8wgdkkcrgzn6w
GWX3.4 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?nl8chscc003xswt
GWX3.5 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?2u85d50b8410cm4
GWX3.6 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?qbbl441v9t5rk2u
GWX3.7 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?20ciea1m71z74m7
GWX3.torrent http://www.mediafire.com/?v0eo8iti15kxb3v
GWX3.fullsingleinstallexe.torrent http://www.mediafire.com/?vh596eq1689hqq8
Comprehensive installation instructions:
http://test.thegreywolves.com/support/
Don't forget to uninstall any previous SH3 installations as well as the SH3 folder in MyDocs and perform a registry clean before attempting a new install.
Links to ALL my GWX files:
GWX3.exe http://www.mediafire.com/?rrc1f9j3zhz0p79
GWX3.1 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?i134px2bbp9rnp2
GWX3.2 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?szsdqpy2z56ckeo
GWX3.3 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?mj8wgdkkcrgzn6w
GWX3.4 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?nl8chscc003xswt
GWX3.5 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?2u85d50b8410cm4
GWX3.6 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?qbbl441v9t5rk2u
GWX3.7 bin http://www.mediafire.com/?20ciea1m71z74m7
GWX3.torrent http://www.mediafire.com/?v0eo8iti15kxb3v
GWX3.fullsingleinstallexe.torrent http://www.mediafire.com/?vh596eq1689hqq8
Comprehensive installation instructions:
http://test.thegreywolves.com/support/
Don't forget to uninstall any previous SH3 installations as well as the SH3 folder in MyDocs and perform a registry clean before attempting a new install.
Excellent!!! That worked like a champ...thank you soo much, I must have had some bad bin files I guess.
One other question, I installed the SH3 Commander File for GWX3 but I have no icon to launch Commander and when I had it installed before the game said Loaded using SH3 Commander, so I guess my question is how do I know Commander is running?
Red October1984
10-20-12, 05:06 PM
You have to download and start Commander before you start Sh3. I have an icon for Commander and theres a button in Commander that starts Sh3.
btw....Commander is a GREAT mod.
Have Fun!!! :salute:
Sailor Steve
10-20-12, 06:11 PM
I have no icon to launch Commander
Go into the SH3 Commander folder, right-click the SH3C.exe and select 'Create Shortcut'. Move the shortcut to your desktop. Voila! Instant Icon!
...and when I had it installed before the game said Loaded using SH3 Commander, so I guess my question is how do I know Commander is running?
As Red October said, when you start Commander you'll get the Commander screen with all its options. After you set the career up the way you want, click the button at the bottom right that says 'Strart SH3'. You'll know Commander is running. :sunny:
OK guys, I finally got it...I thought I was supposed to use the Commander for GWX3 in lieu of SH3 Commander...hope that makes sense, either way I got it.
Thanks again to everyone for all their help and advice. Time for me to get out there and enjoy the fruits of my labor. I am sure I will be back with more questions as I get into it but till then best of luck to all.
Sailor Steve
10-20-12, 09:01 PM
Glad it's working and good hunting! Never hesitate to ask anything, but be warned: before you know it you'll be the one answering questions. :sunny:
Jimbuna
10-21-12, 07:08 AM
[QUOTE=SIcane;1950589]Excellent!!! That worked like a champ...thank you soo much, I must have had some bad bin files I guess.
QUOTE]
SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
Red October1984
10-21-12, 09:18 AM
Glad it's working and good hunting! Never hesitate to ask anything, but be warned: before you know it you'll be the one answering questions. :sunny:
Haha. Yep. I am a living example of that one. You'll have a lot of questions at first, but as you learn, you will start answering instead of asking. :up:
Sailor Steve
10-21-12, 09:28 AM
Yeah, but it would help if you gave the right answers once in awhile. :O:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
:rotfl2:
Red October1984
10-21-12, 11:32 AM
Yeah, but it would help if you gave the right answers once in awhile. :O:
Sorry, couldn't resist.
:rotfl2:
Oh.... :nope: That one stung Steve.
:D Haha, but i guess i had that one coming. :har:
Sailor Steve
10-21-12, 11:56 AM
Oh.... :nope: That one stung Steve.
:D Haha, but i guess i had that one coming. :har:
Well, if it was true it wouldn't have been funny. You are quite helpful around these parts. :sunny:
Red October1984
10-21-12, 12:27 PM
Well, if it was true it wouldn't have been funny. You are quite helpful around these parts. :sunny:
Why thank you, kind sir!
:up:
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