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Got this Idea from the Mark Levin radio show,, he's having a ball with this Univisions report on fast furious., in the last day or so. So is the mainstream media just a bunch of white racist that doesn't want to report on the deaths of mexican citizens,,that was the direct result of weapons that came from a botched government operation,,,..or and all the deaths of black youths being killed in Chicago.. And I haven't heard much about Sioux nation ,,,I guess if you are a half white liberal president you can do no wrong...
Tribesman
10-01-12, 06:27 PM
I suppose its an improvement on a stupid five year old story about an idiot.
:har::har::har::har::har::har:
But come on yubs give us a media link, I want to see if this one has chemtrails and aliens in it too.
soopaman2
10-01-12, 06:28 PM
You seem to be the only one here who cares what race the president is.
Maybe the question should turn inward?
You know as well as I do, to the white majority, blacks killing blacks is ok, as long as it don't come into our neighborhoods.
Whites expect it, therefore it don't get the attention the George Zimmerman case gets.
Now that sells papers!
(edit: Black on black crime is not new Yubba, nor is our apathy for it, just stop grasping for things to trash Obama on. Plenty of legit things to kill him on.)
Honest news is dead, they are a business now (busineses cater to peoples wallets, not ideals), not something made to protect the people.
Stealhead
10-01-12, 06:40 PM
Honest news is dead, they are a business now (busineses cater to peoples wallets, not ideals), not something made to protect the people.
News has always been a business that is not news at all.Ask Ben Franklin.
soopaman2
10-01-12, 06:44 PM
News has always been a business that is not news at all.Ask Ben Franklin.
Then why do so many folks take it at face value?
I don't buy something because the commercial for it made me laugh. Geico commercials are hilarious, but they stink for auto insurance.
I am more questioning our gullability, than the media itself. We foster this environment.
I bet some guys won't read Fox, others hate the NY times.
Because they cater to pre-existing beliefs.
I want some kind of neutrality back, we have digressed back to the Hearst days of yellow journalism.
Subnuts
10-01-12, 06:55 PM
A middle-aged black woman once reported me to my manager on the ground of discrimination because I chose to bag groceries for a white woman with three children and a huge order, while she only had 10 items or so. A couple years after that, a young Jamaican woman accused me of being a racist because I wouldn't write her a receipt for bottles that didn't have a 5-cent deposit. Said I would have given her the money if she was white.
If this is what passes as "racism" these days, I imagine something "racist" is said on the major news networks about once every 6 seconds.
Cybermat47
10-01-12, 07:26 PM
I have a friend at school, and he makes fun of the fact that people start screaming RASCIST! whenever you do something.
Sam, could you please pass me a pen?
RASCIST!!
Stealhead
10-01-12, 07:43 PM
Then why do so many folks take it at face value?
I don't buy something because the commercial for it made me laugh. Geico commercials are hilarious, but they stink for auto insurance.
I am more questioning our gullability, than the media itself. We foster this environment.
I bet some guys won't read Fox, others hate the NY times.
Because they cater to pre-existing beliefs.
I want some kind of neutrality back, we have digressed back to the Hearst days of yellow journalism.
The problem is that people are not taught to analyze what they read and consider what interests the source and author may have so unless you learn from your parents or someone else that has influence to actually approach media analytically and read between the lines and digest more than one outlet
you will be ignorant and ignorance is bliss.
People are taught pretty much to obey what they read as fact these days and it flows over to the TV and web.I had one teacher in high school he used to say that TV was the raping of your mind.
Long ago during the Revolutionary War the literacy rate was as high as 98% Massachusetts had that rate back then people also read two, three even four different papers in those days as well so they where better able to analyze a given story.
"Almost every man is a reader," wrote the Reverend Jacob Duche in 1772. Duche didn't have to go far from his church at 3rd and Pine Streets, to find evidence to support this observation. "The poorest laborer upon the shores of the Delaware thinks himself entitled to deliver his sentiment in matters of religion or politics with as much freedom as the gentlemen or scholar... such is the prevailing taste for books of every kind..."
You know you can print anything you want in the US you do not need any special permission from any one of course this means that no review is done as to what someone is printing
or saying on TV it is supposed to be the responsibility of the person receiving the information to do that themselves.Only thing is most people don't.
The mainstream media is in the business of getting people to pay attention. If being racist, or more correctly, agitating racist controversy gets people to pay attention then they'll happily play one group of people against another using any issue and that includes racism.
But what I think Yubba refers to is perceived double standard in the main stream medias coverage of certain events depending on which party a politician is from.
IE if it was a Republican in office then these incidents would be cast as an enormous racial strife problem that the president isn't doing enough to fix. Since the POTUS is a D then these issues are marginalized and ignored.
Now while I think the people he listens to are just agitating controversy for attention like any other media type unfortunately there is some history of this.
I'm dating myself here but back in 1992 we used to have an enormous homeless problem in America. In nightly news reports it was cast as a national emergency that threatened the American way of life,.... right up until Bill Clinton beat Bush senior, then seemingly overnight the problem disappeared from the national medias radar. I mean the problem didn't go away of course just the medias coverage of it. It became not worth covering any more. Why? Because it would be embarrassing to a D president?
That's one explanation but I'm thinking the reason is more pragmatic. Without the election to cast the issue against, who is for this and who is against that, statements and speeches, party positions, etc, the issue wouldn't generate enough news to be worth hiring all the extra help to properly exploit it any more so they moved on to something else. Sorry homeless, maybe next election.
Stealhead
10-01-12, 08:09 PM
That's one explanation but I'm thinking the reason is more pragmatic. Without the election to cast the issue against, who is for this and who is against that, statements and speeches, party positions, etc, the issue wouldn't generate enough news to be worth hiring all the extra help to properly exploit it any more so they moved on to something else. Sorry homeless, maybe next election.
It has been a few elections and you hardly hear about homeless people on the news unless they have the misfortune to be the victim of a violent crime.
Bubblehead1980
10-01-12, 08:21 PM
Absolutely, because they are liberals.Liberals are the real racists, everything is about skin color to them.They think people of color need a special lift such as affirmative action etc and are not capable of getting ahead on their own merits.They think that whites are always looking to hold down non whites, it's crazy and offensive.I know some black people who have "left the plantation" of the left and see that.Unfortunately this view is not widespread among the black community yet but it is growing, hopefully it will help liberate them from the intellectual slavery they have suffered under for a long time.
But the media aren't liberals. They're opportunists, exploiters, vampires who feed off controversy and human misery. They have their liberals and they have their conservatives but they are not driven by ideology.
Bubblehead1980
10-01-12, 08:33 PM
But the media aren't liberals. They're opportunists, exploiters, vampires who feed off controversy and human misery. They have their liberals and they have their conservatives but they are not driven by ideology.
Oh, they are80% liberal and when they have a fellow traveler up there, they are cheerleaders.Case in point, obama.
But the media aren't liberals. They're opportunists, exploiters, vampires who feed off controversy and human misery. They have their liberals and they have their conservatives but they are not driven by ideology.
QFT.
Sure you have your left leanings (CNN - Communist News Network) and your right leaners (Fox News - Faux News) but all media news outlets are out for the shock factor. Perhaps it is to gain and hold peoples attention through righteous indignation, or perhaps it's just pushing boundaries as far as they can before someone snaps them back.
Case in point, the current UK Leveson inquiry which has shown just how corrupt and rotten the core of the modern reporting media really is, gross invasions of privacy, intimidation, sleeze, backroom deals, the whole shebang. Heck, one popular theory has the press responsible for the death of Princess Diana all those years ago (paparazzi chasing Dianas car, causing the driver to speed up to try and lose them, and in turn lose control and crash), and I'd certainly wager that they were a contributing factor if not the reason itself.
My primary source of news is the BBC, but that's not to say that the BBC is completely unbias, good God no, it's tragically bias in some cases, however what you have to learn to do over time is to take everything that every news outlet says with a pinch of salt unless you have witnessed it directly yourself. As a popular saying goes 'There are two sides to every story' and quite often we only get to hear one side.
Stealhead
10-01-12, 09:22 PM
QFT.
Sure you have your left leanings (CNN - Communist News Network) and your right leaners (Fox News - Faux News) but all media news outlets are out for the shock factor. Perhaps it is to gain and hold peoples attention through righteous indignation, or perhaps it's just pushing boundaries as far as they can before someone snaps them back.
Case in point, the current UK Leveson inquiry which has shown just how corrupt and rotten the core of the modern reporting media really is, gross invasions of privacy, intimidation, sleeze, backroom deals, the whole shebang. Heck, one popular theory has the press responsible for the death of Princess Diana all those years ago (paparazzi chasing Dianas car, causing the driver to speed up to try and lose them, and in turn lose control and crash), and I'd certainly wager that they were a contributing factor if not the reason itself.
My primary source of news is the BBC, but that's not to say that the BBC is completely unbias, good God no, it's tragically bias in some cases, however what you have to learn to do over time is to take everything that every news outlet says with a pinch of salt unless you have witnessed it directly yourself. As a popular saying goes 'There are two sides to every story' and quite often we only get to hear one side.
Many people only want to hear one side of the story is part of the problem especially when that one side often times is extremely biased they force the entire world as being black and white and everything has to go though that filter even though things are always much too complex and multifaceted to be viewed this way.
the_tyrant
10-01-12, 09:29 PM
Hey, I'm gonna be fully honest here.
When the Bias is towards my direction, I say the news is perfectly neutral and objective.
When the bias is against me, I will scream that it is racist, agiest, sexist, biased, etc.
Many people only want to hear one side of the story is part of the problem especially when that one side often times is extremely biased they force the entire world as being black and white and everything has to go though that filter even though things are always much too complex and multifaceted to be viewed this way.
I would like to hear the news not see it covered up,, what happened in Lybia,, what's going on in Egypt..??? this country was founded on a free press ,, if this was a republican problem we would never hear the end of it, the terrorist loved our abassador so much it killed him..and where's the president on this,, ooh he's on Letterman just another just another bump in the road,, the debates are wensday if Romney falls no the sword then we'll know whats up. 72 hrs boys.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/univision-report-connects-operation-fast-and-furious-scandal-to-murders-of-mexican-teenagers/
I would like to hear the news not see it covered up,, what happened in Lybia,, what's going on in Egypt..??? this country was founded on a free press ,, if this was a republican problem we would never hear the end of it, the terrorist loved our abassador so much it killed him..and where's the president on this,, ooh he's on Letterman just another just another bump in the road,, the debates are wensday if Romney falls no the sword then we'll know whats up. 72 hrs boys.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/univision-report-connects-operation-fast-and-furious-scandal-to-murders-of-mexican-teenagers/
So basically, it's (as always) all the Democrats fault?
Is there any subject...any at all...that you cannot politicise?
Just wondering.
Tribesman
10-02-12, 02:35 AM
I would like to hear the news not see it covered up
You mean news stories like your secret antarctic telescope, the UN black helicopters ready for invading and taking your guns, the hidden killer planet that is going to eat us, FEMA death camps and of course the secret army of nazi dentists.
only you could make such a complaint while starting a topic with some example of pure rubbish you had already posted..... why oh why are the lamestream media not reporting a nonsense story that a loony tunes "news" source picked up 5 years afterthe rest of the media covered it:rotfl2:
what happened in Lybia,, what's going on in Egypt..???
Have you ever thought of perhaps reading the news instead of listening to some loony telling you that the media isn't covering the news?
Can you fix your link, gun nut weekly doesn't carry enough stories about aliens but instead has a focus on prepping for apocalypso.
So basically, it's (as always) all the Democrats fault?
Is there any subject...any at all...that you cannot politicise?
Just wondering.
By the looks of it no,,, basically it's our fault,,, I'm sick of people, thinking they can destroy my country by political manuering and, with criminal activity and the people that support it,,, http://www.theblaze.com/stories/glenn-beck-blasts-us-media-over-fast-and-furious-media-has-utterly-failed/ ...So how many people have to die to get your attention...?????? So if the government has blood on its hands with fast and furious,, then so does the mainstream media that doesn't want to report on it...A free people starts with a free press...Tribesman I would love to be there to see the supprised look on your face when they drag you out to the street and tell that, that your stuff ain't yours anymore..
AVGWarhawk
10-02-12, 07:55 AM
Tribesman I would love to be there to see the supprised look on your face when they drag you out to the street and tell that, that your stuff ain't yours anymore..
Yubba, it is one thing to be informed. It is another when the information you are being fed daily is constantly in the negative. The news is constantly in the negative. Other than the weatherman, that wants you to hear nothing but sunny skies, the news will report gloom and doom. It sells. Tune into something else for awhile. Honestly, watching and reading the news all day is not healthy. I eventually stopped reading the newspaper. It was getting me depressed. I catch a little of the local news. Read a few spots on the internet. I then go out and enjoy the day.
Tribesman
10-02-12, 08:28 AM
Tribesman I would love to be there to see the supprised look on your face when they drag you out to the street and tell that, that your stuff ain't yours anymore..
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
Who the media, evil government, the UN, the NWO, the aliens or the secret penguins from antarctica?
It is another when the information you are being fed daily is constantly in the negative.
I think it goes beyond that, "the news" yubba gets fed isn't just negative it is crazy nonsense.
AVGWarhawk
10-02-12, 08:36 AM
I think it goes beyond that, "the news" yubba gets fed isn't just negative it is crazy nonsense.
I would tend to agree. If a guy named Jim Jones can have an entire village of followers drink the Kool-aid I can safely assume people will believe anything no matter the subject. Just keep drilling it into their head.
The biggest and boldest racists we have these days reside in the White House.
The problem comes when Yubba takes things like Glenn Beck as being news...Glenn Beck is not news, Glenn Beck is a vitriolic mouthpiece for the far right who couldn't be unbiased if his life depended on it.
Bubblehead1980
10-02-12, 04:56 PM
The biggest and boldest racists we have these days reside in the White House.
:up: Very true, all anyone needs to do is READ Obama's first book "Dreams From My Father", analyze his racist actions in the beer summit fiasco, or dealing with black panthers, his rhetoric etc. Read Michelle Obama's college thesis.Look at who they associate with etc, Always something about race for these people...
Tribesman
10-02-12, 05:10 PM
Very true
Bubbles you wouldn't recognise the truth if it came with a letter of introduction.
But its funny to see you try that line after publicly confirming that you are a racist :yeah:
Well done keep it up:rotfl2:
Heck, one popular theory has the press responsible for the death of Princess Diana all those years ago (paparazzi chasing Dianas car, causing the driver to speed up to try and lose them, and in turn lose control and crash), and I'd certainly wager that they were a contributing factor if not the reason itself.
I remember thinking at the time which one of us in their shoes wouldn't have told their driver to loose those jerks chasing them. That and a slippery patch of road would have been all it took. Yeah i'd say the paparazzi were at very least a contributing factor.
u crank
10-02-12, 06:02 PM
Hey, I'm gonna be fully honest here.
When the Bias is towards my direction, I say the news is perfectly neutral and objective.
When the bias is against me, I will scream that it is racist, agiest, sexist, biased, etc.
Now that's just plain .......oh wait......yeah... you could be right. :O:
soopaman2
10-02-12, 06:09 PM
"these people" Bubbles?
What kind of people?
Yeah sure, you mean "democrats"...:yep:
I haven't read every post in this thread.
However the title of this thread made me remember an issue on the Danish channel TV2
Here's they confessed that they "removed" fat, ugly and other people that didn't fit into a social-like program
And it was not just that channel but also other channel in Denmark did the same.
I don't know if it have anything to do with racism
Markus
Subnuts
10-02-12, 06:49 PM
The Aryan Nation, Council of Conservative Citizens, the Nation of Islam, the Hammerskins, the Christian Identity movement, the Jewish Defense League, Stormfront, the League of the South, the American Nazi Party, the American Third Position, the True Invisible Empire Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (seriously?), and Blood and Honour, are all going to be very pleased to hear they aren't "real" racists because very few to none of them actually consider themselves liberals.
soopaman2
10-02-12, 07:20 PM
The Aryan Nation, Council of Conservative Citizens, the Nation of Islam, the Hammerskins, the Christian Identity movement, the Jewish Defense League, Stormfront, the League of the South, the American Nazi Party, the American Third Position, the True Invisible Empire Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (seriously?), and Blood and Honour, are all going to be very pleased to hear they aren't "real" racists because very few to none of them actually consider themselves liberals.
:D
Liberals are always to blame, I appreciate you trying to diffuse the dripping rhetoric with common sense, but you cannot change "these people" (see it works both ways Bubbles)
You know, the white rascist moonshine drinkers who choose to forget the civil war is over and they lost.
I can't wait until our first Arab-American president, maybe all these conservatives will move to France and Canada, then maybe we can get out of the 1950s in our racial tolerance beliefs.
I can't wait until our first Arab-American president, maybe all these conservatives will move to France and Canada, then maybe we can get out of the 1950s in our racial tolerance beliefs.
I don't want a hyphenated-American president. Just an American one.
Remember your Teddy Roosevelt:
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all...
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic...
There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
soopaman2
10-02-12, 09:39 PM
I don't want a hyphenated-American president. Just an American one.
Remember your Teddy Roosevelt:
So Obama isn't American, Donald Trump?:03: (bad joke, not troll-bait sorry :))
The only people making an issue of his race are the people that hate him.
If Marco Rubio, the republican were to run, he would portray himself as cuban American in order to get the hispanic vote.
Or is hyphenating only bad for libs?
Grats on your pats, I thought they were done early. :D
I get your point August. Truly I do. But the malice towards our president before he even raised his hand to take the oath disgusted me.
I get your point August. Truly I do. But the malice towards our president before he even raised his hand to take the oath disgusted me.
It's ok to be disgusted but show me the president that didn't have malice towards him before during or after he took office. Every leader has enemies, it goes with the job.
But a president is elected to represent the American people, all of us, and I have my doubts that any person who self identifies as a hyphenated American can do that effectively. Our president should not have conflicting loyalties.
soopaman2
10-02-12, 10:04 PM
It's ok to be disgusted but show me the president that didn't have malice towards him before during or after he took office. Every leader has enemies, it goes with the job.
But a president is elected to represent the American people, all of us, and I have my doubts that any person who self identifies as a hyphenated American can do that effectively. Our president should not have conflicting loyalties.
My arab-American reference is what you're poking at, and you are right. Not so much Obama.
It kinda hit me after I typed the post. Ya got me, ya scoundrel! (falls over in a dramatic death scene):D
Tribesman
10-03-12, 02:17 AM
But a president is elected to represent the American people, all of us, and I have my doubts that any person who self identifies as a hyphenated American can do that effectively. Our president should not have conflicting loyalties.
So does that mean any American who self identifies as a Christian-American cannot be effective?
That is a question that has so many angles and so many historical examples I wonder if anyone is prepared to actually think on it.
There are no shortage of people here on this forum who have made comments in that vein.
Plus of course it does tie in nicely with Augusts example.
http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-obama-libya-daily-show-video-2012-10 talk about hitting the nail on the head...:har::har::har:
“Well, two things apparently have become clear,” Stewart said. “The attack on our embassy was planned and coordinated. The response to it — not so much.”
:haha::har:
Well, isn't that true of most large organisations? Left hand doesn't know what the right is doing? Ah, c'est la vie.
mookiemookie
10-03-12, 12:14 PM
"The president can do no wrong in the eyes of the media." But yet there's 100 articles a day slamming the President on Drudge, Fox, The Blaze, Pajamas Media, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Morning Joe, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Wall Street Journal, NY Post, Red State, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and Free Republic.
But no, he can do no wrong in the eyes of the media.
"The president can do no wrong in the eyes of the media." But yet there's 100 articles a day slamming the President on Drudge, Fox, The Blaze, Pajamas Media, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Morning Joe, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Wall Street Journal, NY Post, Red State, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and Free Republic.
But no, he can do no wrong in the eyes of the media.
None of those would be considered Main Stream except maybe Fox. In fact you yourself have more than once said they are on the radical fringe so now when it suits your point they suddenly become valid news sources?
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN. Those are what is considered to be "mainstream" and those are the ones that are conspicuously absent from your list.
Tribesman
10-03-12, 01:09 PM
None of those would be considered Main Stream except maybe Fox.
So the newspaper with the highest readership in the states is not mainstream and the big tv news is only a maybe:doh:
None of those would be considered Main Stream except maybe Fox. In fact you yourself have more than once said they are on the radical fringe so now when it suits your point they suddenly become valid news sources?
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN. Those are what is considered to be "mainstream" and those are the ones that are conspicuously absent from your list.
and too add to that poor folk can't afford cable so guess what they only get, abc nbc cbs and if the weathers bad at my moms with this new digital crap we don't get cbs and if all the star are alined just right we might get fox..thank god for the internet something else poor folk don't have either that's why I'm bent about the lamestream media.
AVGWarhawk
10-03-12, 01:22 PM
"The president can do no wrong in the eyes of the media." But yet there's 100 articles a day slamming the President on Drudge, Fox, The Blaze, Pajamas Media, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Morning Joe, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Wall Street Journal, NY Post, Red State, World Net Daily, Newsmax, and Free Republic.
But no, he can do no wrong in the eyes of the media.
This same nonsense played out in 2008. What's your point?
Tribesman
10-03-12, 01:36 PM
This same nonsense played out in 2008. What's your point?
I think the point is that some people are making the same ludicrous statements again and again even though they do not match facts.
Some people are silly enough to still believe the nonsense and parrot it out blindly according to their poor little victimhood complex.
Lets face it the entire topic is based on some lamebrain fantasy persecution complex
AVGWarhawk
10-03-12, 01:43 PM
I think the point is that some people are making the same ludicrous statements again and again even though they do not match facts.
Some people are silly enough to still believe the nonsense and parrot it out blindly according to their poor little victimhood complex.
Lets face it the entire topic is based on some lamebrain fantasy persecution complex
That clears up a lot. Thanks.
AVGWarhawk
10-03-12, 01:45 PM
So the newspaper with the highest readership in the states is not mainstream and the big tv news is only a maybe:doh:
I'm inclined to believe CNN, FOX, MSNBC are opinion programs. News is secondary. Opinions is what they peddle.
Sailor Steve
10-03-12, 01:49 PM
I'm inclined to believe CNN, FOX, MSNBC are opinion programs. News is secondary. Opinions is what they peddle.
I always laugh when someone tries to cite the 'Free Press' of the Founders' days. The so-called newspapers back then were exactly what you describe here: opinion papers, and news was secondary. The shows you mention were exactly what the Founders supported. They hated them, but they supported the idea.
AVGWarhawk
10-03-12, 01:59 PM
I always laugh when someone tries to cite the 'Free Press' of the Founders' days. The so-called newspapers back then were exactly what you describe here: opinion papers, and news was secondary. The shows you mention were exactly what the Founders supported. They hated them, but they supported the idea.
If you watch these programs at all it is easy to see. MSNBC has this blond twit and some dude with round glass. No socks on with penny loafers. Does not bother to wear a suit. All they do is fill the screen with their opinions about "the news". FOX has two stuffed shirts in suits with a blond twit in the middle filling the screen with their opinions about "the news". CNN has much the same. I watch the local news. That's enough to turn my stomach. No need to watch the others.
mookiemookie
10-03-12, 02:05 PM
I think the point is that some people are making the same ludicrous statements again and again even though they do not match facts.
Some people are silly enough to still believe the nonsense and parrot it out blindly according to their poor little victimhood complex.
Lets face it the entire topic is based on some lamebrain fantasy persecution complex
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Many media sources that tell you the stories they cover aren't being covered by the mainstream media, ARE the mainstream media.
Fox News crows about how they're the most watched cable news. I'd say that makes them the mainstream media. That pretty much means they can't use the old "why isn't the mainstream media covering this/saying this/reporting on this/giving attention to this" garbage.
Tchocky
10-03-12, 02:06 PM
FOX has two stuffed shirts in suits with a blond twit in the middle filling the screen with their opinions about "the news".
In fairness, that's Fox & Friends. Worst of a bad bunch.
AVGWarhawk
10-03-12, 02:27 PM
In fairness, that's Fox & Friends. Worst of a bad bunch.
True but it is still opinion news. Is it Shepard Smith that might delivery anything of substance?
Turkey returns fire into Syria,, saw it first here in subsim and just heard it on fox news radio 1600 oct3 2012, if you hear it else where, post it..Lets see who is really reporting the news.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198897
Sailor Steve
10-03-12, 03:16 PM
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
NPR
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/03/162218305/syrias-battered-city-of-aleppo-rocked-by-suicide-bombings
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/03/syria-explosions-violence/1609829/
ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-04/turkey-shells-syria-after-deadly-attack/4294470
NBC
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/03/14200329-turkey-strikes-targets-in-syria-after-mortar-attack-kills-5?lite
CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57525494/turkish-artillery-targets-syria/
I only used American sources, since your childish slam was obviously aimed at your home country.
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
NPR
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/03/162218305/syrias-battered-city-of-aleppo-rocked-by-suicide-bombings
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/03/syria-explosions-violence/1609829/
ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-04/turkey-shells-syria-after-deadly-attack/4294470
NBC
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/03/14200329-turkey-strikes-targets-in-syria-after-mortar-attack-kills-5?lite
CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57525494/turkish-artillery-targets-syria/
I only used American sources, since your childish slam was obviously aimed at your home country. No Steve it was a slam against your favorite networks when was the last time they reported on fast and furious ?????
Takeda Shingen
10-03-12, 03:24 PM
No Steve it was a slam against your favorite networks when was the last time they reported on fast and furious ?????
Stop running yubba. Steve beat you fair and square.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Many media sources that tell you the stories they cover aren't being covered by the mainstream media, ARE the mainstream media.
Fox News crows about how they're the most watched cable news. I'd say that makes them the mainstream media. That pretty much means they can't use the old "why isn't the mainstream media covering this/saying this/reporting on this/giving attention to this" garbage.
Ok, I can buy that but if just one student completes a task in my shop I don't give credit to the entire class for it.
One single right leaning main stream media outlet out of half a dozen left leaning media outlets might just give a person the idea that the mainstream media as a group are indeed ignoring stories and slanting the news to one political party over another.
Stop running yubba. Steve beat you fair and square. who's running I had a log error on my machine just recovered and he didn't win yet, it's 1700 hrs it has to air on tv non cable network news so the average american can see it to beat me..So I got to go and blow the dust off my tv and watch a half hour of liberal network news,, I'll have it on ABC nightly news if it doesn't air I win and if they do report on it, it would be a random act of journalism,, we'll see.
Takeda Shingen
10-03-12, 04:18 PM
Sigh. Here's what you said above.
Turkey returns fire into Syria,, saw it first here in subsim and just heard it on fox news radio 1600 oct3 2012, if you hear it else where, post it..Lets see who is really reporting the news.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198897
Now you want to move the goalposts. Even more, you've pre-qualified the content even if it is reported. What you have done is set yourself up in a no-lose situation, a whole lot like what conspiracy theorists do to hedge their bets as insurance for when their apocalyptic predictions don't come true.
Sailor Steve
10-03-12, 04:21 PM
No Steve it was a slam against your favorite networks when was the last time they reported on fast and furious ?????
Not my favorite networks. I don't watch any of them. You said your favorite network was the only one which reported this, and challenged anyone to prove you wrong. I did. All the major news outlets reported it. Now you can admit you were wrong and apologize.
Oh, and if it's about "winning" you can admit you're doing nothing but playing games and apologize again.
mookiemookie
10-03-12, 04:26 PM
New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/world/middleeast/syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
NPR
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/03/162218305/syrias-battered-city-of-aleppo-rocked-by-suicide-bombings
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/03/syria-explosions-violence/1609829/
ABC
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-04/turkey-shells-syria-after-deadly-attack/4294470
NBC
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/03/14200329-turkey-strikes-targets-in-syria-after-mortar-attack-kills-5?lite
CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57525494/turkish-artillery-targets-syria/
I only used American sources, since your childish slam was obviously aimed at your home country.
Throw this one in, just to tweak him a bit: :03:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/syria-mortar-attack-turkey_n_1936843.html
Sailor Steve
10-03-12, 04:28 PM
Throw this one in, just to tweak him a bit: :03:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/syria-mortar-attack-turkey_n_1936843.html
I saw that one, but I pay so little attention that I wasn't sure if it was a conservative or liberal source, and if the former it wouldn't have counted.
Takeda Shingen
10-03-12, 04:43 PM
I saw that one, but I pay so little attention that I wasn't sure if it was a conservative or liberal source, and if the former it wouldn't have counted.
Huffington is very left.
Sigh. Here's what you said above.
Now you want to move the goalposts. Even more, you've pre-qualified the content even if it is reported. What you have done is set yourself up in a no-lose situation, a whole lot like what conspiracy theorists do to hedge their bets as insurance for when their apocalyptic predictions don't come true.
I'm sorry,, how do you figure most Americans get their news,,, I can't afford cable, and I'm lucky to have internet,, sorry I'm a little old fashion I remember 4 or 5 years ago you could get reliable news on free tv instead of propaganda ,,and this is what this thread is all about,,, so it's posted on the net at all these networks ,, so out of those 44 million americans on foodstamps how many can afford cable or internet.. and I'll look in the paper tomorrow,, all this middle east stuff is usually 5th or 6th page. 1745 minutes to go tv is all warmed up ooh popcorn...Will it be on good morning america tomorrow with the 15mins the royals get in england get per day..
Sailor Steve
10-03-12, 04:45 PM
Huffington is very left.
And they reported it? Impossible!
Maybe they saw Yubba's post and put it in just to prove they are also "fair and balanced".
Silly me long time since I watched tv news abc nightly comes on at 1830 well I got Mark Levin on He's the one that inspired me to do this thread.
Tribesman
10-03-12, 05:24 PM
Doesn't this ridiculous charade remind you of the well worn line of crap about all the jews running the media?
No takers on the religious portion of Augusts Teddy Roosavelt speech then?:03:
Takeda Shingen
10-03-12, 05:30 PM
I'm sorry,, how do you figure most Americans get their news,,, I can't afford cable, and I'm lucky to have internet,, sorry I'm a little old fashion I remember 4 or 5 years ago you could get reliable news on free tv instead of propaganda ,,and this is what this thread is all about,,, so it's posted on the net at all these networks ,, so out of those 44 million americans on foodstamps how many can afford cable or internet.. and I'll look in the paper tomorrow,, all this middle east stuff is usually 5th or 6th page. 1745 minutes to go tv is all warmed up ooh popcorn...Will it be on good morning america tomorrow with the 15mins the royals get in england get per day..
Anyone remember the scene in Shaun of the Dead where Simon Pegg and Nick Frost grab a bunch of random crap from their house and throw it at the zombies in the garden in the vain hopoe that something will work? That's what the above quote is, and it is unfortunately a favorite page in the yubba playbook.
Well ABC nightly did report that something did happen in Sryia, it was rocked by carbombs, no mention of Turkey shelling them,,,so they can't report what really happened on tv.. I don't even know where to begin on this,, not only the mainstream media is racist,,, it also discriminates against the poor.. among other things,,, So RUN RABBIT RUN..:har::har::har::har:
Takeda Shingen
10-03-12, 06:11 PM
See post 55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e04KEmsAc8k&feature=fvwrel where'd you guys go I had to shut down,, lightning and a shower after watching that liberal crud,, not only did ABC not report what happened they mis informed the american public and I caught them,, two weeks after the terrorist attacks a couple of car bombs who cares,,, fox radio 2000hrs turkey going to NATO under article 4 ....footnote liberals hate freedom. I remember when I could count on ABC to report the news,,, not now America has changed,, for the worst...
mookiemookie
10-03-12, 07:35 PM
Anyone remember the scene in Shaun of the Dead where Simon Pegg and Nick Frost grab a bunch of random crap from their house and throw it at the zombies in the garden in the vain hopoe that something will work? That's what the above quote is, and it is unfortunately a favorite page in the yubba playbook.
A reference to my favorite movie.
Tak, the tally in my head of number of beers I owe you keeps growing...
Random crap,, you wish,, knew the media couldn't report world events correctly,, can't harm the king on his big night out. So how many millions of people only get free TV and they rely on it to get the news and it can't get reported correctly, and it got exposed right here didn't it,,, I couldn't have planned it any better.....
Lord_magerius
10-03-12, 09:28 PM
I'm sorry,, how do you figure most Americans get their news,,, I can't afford cable, and I'm lucky to have internet,, sorry I'm a little old fashion I remember 4 or 5 years ago you could get reliable news on free tv instead of propaganda ,,and this is what this thread is all about,,, so it's posted on the net at all these networks ,, so out of those 44 million americans on foodstamps how many can afford cable or internet.. and I'll look in the paper tomorrow,, all this middle east stuff is usually 5th or 6th page. 1745 minutes to go tv is all warmed up ooh popcorn...Will it be on good morning america tomorrow with the 15mins the royals get in england get per day..
Sorry I have to highlight this, they don't even make the news over here anymore, unless it's some form of nude scandal or Prince Phillip has either A: been admitted to hospital again or B: Offended some foreign dignitary with remarks about "bloody savages" or the like. This is the smallest thing (IMO) that you have got wrong, and once again, it's a major fail.
Yubba, why don't you just give up and realise that your opinion is just that? An opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
The fact that 9/10 your "facts" come from right wing sources, yet here we are debating that you can't trust any news source for being unbiased. You agree with this, yet get all of your sources from faux news and other such sources.
Which is it? Fox is completely unbiased and their stories of "eight trillion immigrants want to eat your child's ice cream because they are funded by aids ridden, property price lowering terrorists" are true, or that all news stories have a hint of bias in them, intentionally or not?
Or is it just a case of choosing what you want to believe and then trying to argue the pittance of circumstantial evidence that you muddle together as fact?
Ok it's my opinion, and the time that I was watching good morning america before I unplugged the tv months ago it seemed that very morning the royals got 15 mins of air time, someone was on a trip or got a new hat, or a new dress, and every body was all goo goo ga ga over it. the goo goo ga ga is opinion,, the fact is, they were getting air time. Fact is abc nightly news did not report that turkey shelled Sryia, fact, millions of people will wake tomorrow and go about their busy day less informed than I. and I will check the paper tomorrow and thats a fact Jack.
Tribesman
10-04-12, 02:39 AM
millions of people will wake tomorrow and go about their busy day less informed than I
The wierdness gets even crazier.:rotfl2:
Though there is truth in the statement, millions of american will be less informed than poor yubba, but those americans will be informed with real information while yubba is "informed" with an incredible pile of nonsense.
Or is it just a case of choosing what you want to believe and then trying to argue the pittance of circumstantial evidence that you muddle together as fact?
Be fair, even circumstantial evidence is usually beyond his ken:yep:
Bubblehead1980
10-04-12, 03:43 AM
"these people" Bubbles?
What kind of people?
Yeah sure, you mean "democrats"...:yep:
I mean democrats/liberals, they are the ones who always bring up race and use racial rhetoric to make people think whitey is keeping them down.
Bubblehead1980
10-04-12, 03:45 AM
In fairness, that's Fox & Friends. Worst of a bad bunch.
Agree, idiots.I get tired of the bs on msnbc but morning joe is at least tolerable and occasionally has intelligent people on the set.Plus, Mika is pretty hot for an older woman.:arrgh!:
Tribesman
10-04-12, 06:05 AM
I mean democrats/liberals, they are the ones who always bring up race and use racial rhetoric to make people think whitey is keeping them down.
Wow the blatant lamebrain racist is trying to say something:rotfl2:
On goodmorning america abc finally reported, that Turkey had shelled Sryia a whole 30 seconds worth,, grudgingly I might add,, no word of the car bombs they reported the night before,,, you could see that abc crew was upset that Obama didn't do well in the debates....The USA Today paper reported on the shelling,, it was 5 or 6 pages deep but it was there..Well I get my hour of Beck to get the spin on what is going on in the world and read some drudge...So far what I'm getting from Beck is that Obama hates Romney and everything Romney believes in, and that includes what most americans believe in and it showed lastnight..
Tribesman
10-04-12, 10:05 AM
Breaking news...yubba manages to find a snippet of news in the short snippets of news break on morning fluff TV and then excels himself by finding world news in the world news section of a newspaper.
Wave the flags and ring out the bells, yubba actually managed to perform a simple task:rotfl2:
But why oh why was the syria story after yet another libya story, didn't they get the memo from the NWO that they mustn't report news which yubbs got told by the chalkboard of conspiracy that they don't report.
Maybe its the sneaky reptilians again with a hidden spy station next to their secret telescope they had a cunning ploy to avoid yubbas internet expose by errr...reporting the news like they do everyday
Sailor Steve
10-04-12, 12:22 PM
sorry I'm a little old fashion I remember 4 or 5 years ago you could get reliable news on free tv instead of propaganda ,,and this is what this thread is all about,,,
Propaganda is what you get from your sources and repeat here. If you were actually interested in discussing the world rather than partisan blame-laying you would see that.
Sailor Steve
10-04-12, 12:25 PM
I mean democrats/liberals, they are the ones who always bring up race and use racial rhetoric to make people think whitey is keeping them down.
"Always"? What you just said, or should I say repeated, is a stock Republican/Conservative talking point, used to avoid actually having a real discussion. You are the same as them, and you still don't get it.
I guess the media is dance-ing in the street that the unemployment numbers got below 8% when they get done crowing over their fake numbers, they can come here to Merritt Island Florida, and I can take them to the churches on a monday when they hand out food, and show them the hundreds of people standing in line for a hand out, it is heart breaking and then I can take them to a couple of homeless camps I know of. So where do the people go when they loose their jobs and their homes????
Tribesman
10-05-12, 12:34 PM
So where do the people go when they loose their jobs and their homes????
Same places they have always gone, maybe if you hadn't been in a drunken stupor all those years till you lost your job you would have known such simple things.
Hey, I was functional alcholic,,I failed to drink myself to death,, I've been sober 6 years now,, figured that I didn't have enough money to kill myself off and that the party was over,, when a company goes out business how is that my fault if you are going to talk about me at least get the story straight,,so what's your problem,,, when was the last time you've done anything for someone that has less than you.????
Bubblehead1980
10-05-12, 04:35 PM
"Always"? What you just said, or should I say repeated, is a stock Republican/Conservative talking point, used to avoid actually having a real discussion. You are the same as them, and you still don't get it.
No! it's not a stock Republican talking point, it's an observation I have made and sure many others have as well.Everytime a liberal opens their mouth concerning any issue , they find a way to tie it into race(and class usually) , that is how they see the world.I do not see the world in racial terms nor do majority of conservatives.I seriously had a professor use the term "white privilege" in class today, ignorance. There is no privilege to being white.Do whites get special benefits(affirmative action) in this country? NO Yet the average liberal thinks white people are always out to hold minorities down etc, we have a black president, who despite his obvious shortcomings, was elected and would not have been elected if not for white independent voters.
Racism will always exist in small numbers among all cultures, just can't get everyone to not think that way.Institutionalized racism though, is gone.Well minus affirmative action, hopefully the supreme court will change that this year.
Tribesman
10-05-12, 04:43 PM
Wow the blatant racist is on a rant again, but apparently its everyone else not him
How are those dumb smelly persians who you think are plotting something while they steal white mans education?:doh:
soopaman2
10-05-12, 04:57 PM
Bubbles may be a bit harsh, but he has a point about affirmative action.
Don't mean I agree with him on all points, but that is a fair point.
All men are created equal, it may not have been the point of our slave owning founding fathers, but it is what we have become. Then let them be equal, and stand on merit, and not on what box was checked off on you application, under race. ("omg we need to have a certain percentage of minorities, or the government will get us, and the ACLU will sue us!)
Gotta be fair.:)
I wonder what would happen if my white pasty ass tries to get into Tuskeegee or Grambling?
I can understand his malice, even if it is not worded properly.
Tribesman
10-05-12, 07:41 PM
Bubbles may be a bit harsh, but he has a point about affirmative action.
Does he though?
Leaving out the obvious flat out lies he just spouted lets just look.
according to him all the students in his school are really dumb, yet he makes a baseless assertion that some certain specific "smelly" people are only there because of their skin tone and they are dumber than errrr...the dumb people and if these dumb people didn't get special treatment then these other dumb people would have got in with the other dumb people.
There are many points about affirmative action Soopa, but Bubbles doesn't have them and probably never will have a point.
Sailor Steve
10-06-12, 11:58 AM
No! it's not a stock Republican talking point, it's an observation I have made and sure many others have as well.
Yes, it is. You got it straight from Rush, Sean and Glenn, and you repeat it without thinking.
Everytime a liberal opens their mouth concerning any issue , they find a way to tie it into race(and class usually) , that is how they see the world.
That's either another talking point or a flat-out lie. Has Mookiemookie ever done that? Soopaman2? Both are cofessed Liberals. How about CCIP? He's an admitted Communist, a real one. You keep repeating these bogus charges without thinking, and you still don't see it.
I do not see the world in racial terms nor do majority of conservatives.
So you say, but you still keep making lockstep quotes.
I seriously had a professor use the term "white privilege" in class today, ignorance.
So? What was his context? Even if you're right about him, you keep tarring all Liberals with the same broad brush. As I've told you a dozen times now, I'm more conservative that liberal, and you make us all look bad. You need to recognize and admit your bias, and learn to start actually thinking. One more time, it's not what you say, it's how you say it, and you keep coming across as a good party member, repeating everything you're told without thinking.
Yet the average liberal thinks white people are always out to hold minorities down etc, we have a black president, who despite his obvious shortcomings, was elected and would not have been elected if not for white independent voters.
Nonsense. Again look at Mookiemookie, a Liberal who thinks for himself, posts reasonably and makes you look like an extrememly less-than-average Conservative.
Have you noticed that even your fellow Conservatives here ignore what you say? There's a reason for that, and you still don't get it.
that's got to be quality tv to bad I can't afford cable,,, does Chris Matthews even like white people, that racist bastard..still got that tingle up your leg,,, by the looks of it,, you had a stroke,,buddy..http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Screen-Shot-2012-10-05-at-11.44.25-PM-620x347.png (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/jack-welch-refuses-to-back-down-on-unemployment-numbers-in-fiery-exchange-with-chris-matthews/screen-shot-2012-10-05-at-11-44-25-pm/)
Onkel Neal
10-06-12, 07:57 PM
I don't like to get in these type of threads and play censor, but i think we've had enough for a while. There's a lot of meanness creeping into these threads and as a conservative, I think the world has enough meanness and we don't need an extra dose of it here.
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