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Skybird
09-13-12, 06:18 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19585433
Well. :shifty:
soopaman2
09-13-12, 06:54 PM
Build your own PC.
The hardest part is attaching the CPU to the motherboard without bending the fragile connections.
The rest clicks in like an airplane model.
Also use a real OS. Not something you found on the pirate bay.
I am a computer moron, and I built mine from scratch. 2 years later it still runs all my games at max.
And I am stupid, I know very little about computers in general. But managed to piece together my own rig that runs flawlessly.
Only help I recieved was attaching the CPU to the motherboard, but I was told you can buy them in combo sets. If your not as picky as I am about CPU types/MB combos.
This is a lesson. The nieve will always be victimized. It is the easiest way to make money for these people. When an hour of reading and asking questions could save you hundreds, and spare you the proprietary keyloggers/viruses.
Do your own research, and when possible, do it yourself, the time invested is worth the piece of mind.
(edit: I laugh at the folks who let so called computer experts use remote means to speed up your PC. Then wonder why they have dildos, and cigarettes on thier credit card bills.) Just too many cons taking advantage of computer luddites.
The stupid deserve it, but they should at least be warned once. ;)
Skybird
09-13-12, 07:44 PM
Last two systems I picked component by component, fron different brands, but I let the shop technician put it together.
CaptainMattJ.
09-13-12, 08:51 PM
the hardest part for me would be installing the CPU fan and paste, as said before, everything else is incredibly easy.
and yes, building a computer can be a cheaper and, now, safer way to own a PC, though some computer builds i fail to see how building a computer is cheaper than buying a factory built and installing a couple things. sometimes it is cheaper to build your own, sometimes not.
the_tyrant
09-13-12, 09:32 PM
With all the bloatware, junk, trials, and non working drivers you get on PCs now days, I would rather take the Virus:haha:
The first thing I usually do with new PCs is to format the thing, and use the serial key that came with it to install a clean version of windows, and manually install the drivers myself.
However, I have to say that Gateway is HORRID in their support. My mom has one of their all in ones in the kitchen, and it uses proprietary touchscreen drivers. I installed a clean install, and I looked on their site for the drivers. THE DOWNLOAD PAGE WAS BLANK!:/\\!!
Takeda Shingen
09-13-12, 10:11 PM
However, I have to say that Gateway is HORRID in their support. My mom has one of their all in ones in the kitchen, and it uses proprietary touchscreen drivers. I installed a clean install, and I looked on their site for the drivers. THE DOWNLOAD PAGE WAS BLANK!:/\\!!
Maybe I'm just a stupid teacher, but I would have made sure I had the drivers I needed before wiping the hard drive.
Madox58
09-13-12, 10:22 PM
Maybe I'm just a stupid teacher, but I would have made sure I had the drivers I needed before wiping the hard drive.
Maybe he was absent the day they taught that in class?
:hmmm:
:haha:
HunterICX
09-14-12, 03:20 AM
Maybe I'm just a stupid teacher, but I would have made sure I had the drivers I needed before wiping the hard drive.
It's pretty much the first thing I do is assemble all the discs and make sure my external hard drive has the rest needed to do a complete reinstall.
HunterICX
the_tyrant
09-14-12, 06:01 AM
Maybe I'm just a stupid teacher, but I would have made sure I had the drivers I needed before wiping the hard drive.
:haha:
Maybe he was absent the day they taught that in class?
We use gateway here at school, I'm pretty sure I wasn't paying attention when the taught the secret handshake to get the drivers
Maybe I'm just a stupid teacher, but I would have made sure I had the drivers I needed before wiping the hard drive.
What he said! Be prepared. Download them beforehand, and make sure you have the most essential on USB stick. Like network drivers. I've had too many occurances of chicken-and-egg situations in the past. Needing to go in the internet to download drivers. But the networkcard won't connect because it isn't part of the pre-installed drivers for Windows.
Herr-Berbunch
09-14-12, 09:40 AM
I prefer to get my viruses free with my pron, thank you anyway chinese factories. :D
Jimbuna
09-14-12, 11:09 AM
Always have a colleague self build for me (for many a year now) but the kids laptops I have no choice but get factory built/made.
Task Force
09-14-12, 11:43 AM
Been building my own PCs for awhile. I like it, feels like you actually did something, and that something you put together ACTUALLY works... or mostly works at least.
Madox58
09-14-12, 06:41 PM
I prefer to get my viruses free with my pron, thank you anyway chinese factories. :D
I prefer butter with my prawn/pron thank you.
:haha:
soopaman2
09-14-12, 07:02 PM
I prefer to get my viruses free with my pron, thank you anyway chinese factories. :D
There is virus and "chain popup" free sites for that too.
Something about a color and another word...
Public service announcment brought to you by the Pornographic Evolutionary ReVisionists (P.E.R.V)
Madox58
09-14-12, 07:10 PM
Public service announcment brought to you by the Pornographic Evolutionary ReVisionists (P.E.R.V)
If I go to Red Lobster and order Pron.
Do I get a discount if I say I'm a member of P.E.R.V.?
:haha:
Herr-Berbunch
09-14-12, 07:25 PM
Something about a color and another word...
Purple butterflies? :hmm2:
Pink pertunias? :hmm2:
Orange fruit? :hmm2:
Yellow mellow? :hmm2:
Let me know when I'm warm. :D
soopaman2
09-14-12, 08:07 PM
If I go to Red Lobster and order Pron.
Do I get a discount if I say I'm a member of P.E.R.V.?
:haha:
Depending on how trashy the waitress is, she may even give ya the real clam if you tell her you are a PERV.
(Try Red Lobster in Jersey, good and trashy, it might work:D)
But most the time, you get slapped.
Madox58
09-14-12, 08:10 PM
I don't like New Jersey.
You get into that state for free but you pay to get out!
:haha:
Slapping is OK as long as you don't get a 'virus'.
:03:
Platapus
09-15-12, 10:41 AM
I have tried building my own computer and it is not as easy or straightforward as I thought.
It does require some experience, knowledge, and skills that not all computer users have.
If you know what you are doing, it can be a cheap way to get a good computer. However, if you don't know what you are doing, it is an expensive way to throw money away. I once ruined a very expensive mother board because I made one mistake with Arctic Silver. :/\\!!:/\\!!:/\\!!
But, on the other hand, I refuse to buy computers from big name stores any more. They are just getting too expensive and have stuff I don't need/want.
Fortunately, I have a very nice computer build/repair shop close by. It is worth finding a good one. They are not only very knowledgeable about computers, they also realize that most people don't really care to be computer experts.
Let's face it, the majority of people want to use a computer as a tool to accomplish a task. They really don't care about how it works and don't want to take the time to learn how it works.
I am one of those. To me a computer is a tool that needs to work well for the tasks I require of it. I really don't want to form a relationship with my computer. :)
What I like about this local shop is that they are not condescending like, I am afraid, many other computer "experts" have been to me. They listen to what you will use your computer for (which to me is the single most important question). Best of all, they won't try to oversell you stuff. I am very lucky to have found them and they will get all my future business.
So if anyone is looking for a new computer but don't have/don't want to have the experience in actually assembling a computer, check out these small shops. They are mostly owned by "computer people" who know their stuff. Just avoid the ones with the condescending attitude and the over use of jargon -- that can be a sign of a person who only thinks they know a lot about computers.
I don't think I will ever buy a computer from a manufacturer again. :yep:
Skybird
09-15-12, 10:53 AM
Just note that the test they ran was psoitive on Chinese equipement.
That leaves you wondering.
How big did they say is the Chinese share in the chips used in American weapon production...? :timeout:
I had my pc build by a professional, i can do it and i did in the past but i chose the option because of the 2 year warranty..
There's their website and they have this pc builder option, you choose the components and case, OS and such and they build it for you. The building costs are around 50 Euro's, 70 U.S Dollars so it's pretty cheap.
My PC is 5,5 years old now and i had some components break down, they send you a new component and you are allowed to build it in yourself without the risk of losing the warranty, the case is sealed when it arrives but they probably figured the costs of sending, repairing and resending are to high, so you can do it yourself.
This pc is nearing the end of it's life, i had 4 hard crashes in the last 2 weeks, after reinstalling the OS i'm hoping it will run for some time again. But i am sure i will buy another pc at the same store..
Skybird
09-15-12, 10:56 AM
I just googled a bit. What was meant as a joke, probably is no joke.
http://defensetech.org/2012/05/30/smoking-gun-proof-that-military-chips-from-china-are-infected/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/u-s-missiles-infected-with-chinese-fakes/
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2012/05/29/2003533982
Well - serves you right, America. To buy weapons and/or vital key technology components from if not an enemy than at least an archrival maybe is not the most clever thing to do. :know:
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