If we started a petition to have the IX boats

[kiwi_2005]

in the game do you think Ubisoft would take notice? Man i miss the IX boats, especially the IXD2. Maybe they could add it as a DLC or expansion i dont know but we need the IX boats in SH5.

[Cybermat47]

in the game do you think Ubisoft would take notice? Man i miss the IX boats, especially the IXD2. Maybe they could add it as a DLC or expansion i dont know but we need the IX boats in SH5.

Amen. If you put up a petition, I would sign it. Hell, youre actually supposed to have them! In Operation drumbeat, your crew say
This is a great new boat! It's got great range!

[GT182]

Will UBI do it... I doubt it very much. Look at what they've done since the v1.2 patch.... disbanded the SH5 development team, and only 'said' they'd do away with the DRM. Of which we've heard nothing more at all about no more DRM.

In spite of all that, I'll sign a petition for an IX too.

[kiwi_2005]

Well lets do it then! :) I wouldn't know where to start a petition unless someone else wants to start up one otherwise if everyone post here in this thread then maybe we could post the link to Ubisoft.

Vote for the IX boats to be added in Silent Hunter 5

Yes please. I want the IXD2 :salute:

[Sailor Steve]

I'd go for the Type II first. :O: That said, to do what you ask would require assembling a new development team, having them learn what the original team did, desiging the boat's exterior and interior, scripting all the crew movements writing a complete new campaign just to cover the main fields of operation. That would probably take two years, and then they'd want you to pay another $50. I think a look at the huge petition for the SDK in the SH3 section should show you exactly what the chances are of this happening.

I think you're wasting your time.

[Targor Avelany]

I think I actually disagree.

Ubi screwed up too many times and haven't cared for SH5 far too long - why would they now?
With that - anything that would come from them in regards to SH5 will most likely be horribly broken again and people will have to fix it.

Now, if, let's say, the DO release a DLC or a patch for II or IX uboat, they also will have to make adjustments to the .exe files, .act files and many other stuff. That means, and I believe I'm near-quoting TDW, that people like Privateer and TDW will have to 're-map all those files' making the last 1.5 years wasted, reversing every fix that TDW and many others have come up with (hydrophone fix ie?

TDW and privateer both say that, even though it is not by no means easy and will require a huge effort, it's already possible to get those boats into the game. I think within another year with the same tempo of development and research going right now and you'll have these boats 100% better then if they come from ubi anyhow...

just my 2c.

[BIGREG]

Hi :salute:

If you want other subs ,we need to have a good tool for that,and a Team with people who know each function of the game (.DAT-.GR2-etc ...) and of course a leader to coordinate all :yep:
Alone is a sure suicide...:timeout:

Ps:I'm a good worker ,but,i don't/can't be a leader to coordonate the all things...

[0rpheus]

Wonderful idea, absolutely zero chance of success. Ubi dropped SH5 after the 1.2 patch, and as Steve rightly says, it would mean creating a whole new development team.

Sad as it is to say, not a snowball's chance in hell. It's up to the modders now, and let's face it - they're doing a better job than Ubidiots would do! :har:

[BIGREG]

+ 1 Orpheus :yep:

The UBI proverbe: We can do it ! But ,do it yourself ! :haha::har:

Ps: and as Steve ,better type IIa first (or maybe is enought work to redo the current subs...)

[Madox58]

The SSTypeIX is in the exe.
So it is wide open to add such a sub with no ill effects on the exe.

A complete list in the .exe is..........

Type II A & D
Type VII B & C
Type IX B, C, & D2
Type XXI

Now how does the Type VII A work since it's not listed in the .exe?
:03:

[Cybermat47]

The SSTypeIX is in the exe.
So it is wide open to add such a sub with no ill effects on the exe.

A complete list in the .exe is..........

Type II A & D
Type VII B & C
Type IX B, C, & D2
Type XXI

Now how does the Type VII A work since it's not listed in the .exe?
:03:

Left-over from SHIII.

Sorry.

[kiwi_2005]

I'd go for the Type II first. :O: That said, to do what you ask would require assembling a new development team, having them learn what the original team did, desiging the boat's exterior and interior, scripting all the crew movements writing a complete new campaign just to cover the main fields of operation. That would probably take two years, and then they'd want you to pay another $50. I think a look at the huge petition for the SDK in the SH3 section should show you exactly what the chances are of this happening.

I think you're wasting your time.

Not really cause it wasn't my intention to do it from the start. :D I was thinking after getting of SH5 at the time we need the IX boats and yeah throw in the Type II as well now. But how would we go about it a petition or just wait and hope. SH3 SDK drama is not the same as asking Ubisoft to throw in a couple of extra boats. I would be willing to pay for the xtra boats for one its going to prolong my SH5 game by a few more years. SH5 is dying for me im tiring of the VII boats only thing keeping it afloat is the mods that come out.

Would it be a waste of time though if we did it right and got enough signatures to make ubisoft think again. How many signatures needed would make them take notice :hmmm:

[Madox58]

A COMPLETE Type IX 3D model was sent to the Devs while they were still working on SH5 after release.

It was fully donated and only need them to change it to GR2 format and add the needed waypoints and such.
At the time there was a hope things would go farther.
:nope:

Someone, somewhere, stopped the conversion/addition.

There's your hope for Ubi doing anything.
:shifty:

[Targor Avelany]

A COMPLETE Type IX 3D model was sent to the Devs while they were still working on SH5 after release.

It was fully donated and only need them to change it to GR2 format and add the needed waypoints and such.
At the time there was a hope things would go farther.
:nope:

Someone, somewhere, stopped the conversion/addition.

There's your hope for Ubi doing anything.
:shifty:
ouch. this really doesnt make me buy any more games from ubi...

[Madox58]

Given the fact that the IXD2 is in the SH4 U-boot expansion thingy?
Why was it never converted for SH5 from the get go?
:hmmm:

Speculation on my part is...
A pay for add-on was planned until all Hell broke loose over other stuff?
:doh:

[BIGREG]

Hi :salute:

Yes,sure they have planned add-on:yep:
when you see they have allready make US radar/sonar in .GR2 format :hmmm:

[Raven-505]

I hate to say it, but market-wise, I don't think they're interested. If I try to look at it from their point of view, SH5 wasn't a big success for them. A lot of money, time, and resources went in-and a glitchy, buggy game was produced, packaged, and sold with not a whole lot of return. I'm sure they know about communities like this one and the modders that basically rewrote their programs and made it better. It's like a slap in the face to them. Their mentality is probably, " If you can do better...." type attitude. Besides, they have a TON of console games that 13 year olds will buy without hesitation. Even SH5 came out more like a console game, rather than a sim. The modders turned it into a sim. Look at the Assassin's Creed series; BIG success for them, so that's where they're gonna put their resources....where they can MAKE MONEY. To me, it's like any corporation, their not in it for the product, or even, the art; they want a return in the black ink. SH series is a dead horse to them.
I totally agree with wanting to expand it to the later boats, mainly because my passion for U-boats started with U-505 and it is a TYPE IXC. I'd love to Captain that boat, even if it's just on my computer. But we'd have better luck working together and coming up with it as a mod. I know I'm no modder, I wouldn't know where, how to begin. But we're the only ones who care, so we have the power to make it happen, much more power than relying on UBISOFT or any other major corporation to listen and agree. Just my opinion, and I could be wrong, most of the time I am.

[desertstriker]

i think as that this is a good idea however it will never happen UBI has SHO comming out and all their submarine guys are probably still hashing that out...heck they may have decided not to acknowledge SH5 ever again

[bill clarke]

What's SHO?

[desertstriker]

Silent Hunter Online

[bill clarke]

Silent Hunter Online

Of course, what a dummy :oops:

[Sailor Steve]

Of course, what a dummy :oops:
Well, you're in good company. :D

[Cybermat47]

Hi :salute:

Yes,sure they have planned add-on:yep:
when you see they have allready make US radar/sonar in .GR2 format :hmmm:

Left-over from SHIV

Sorry

[BIGREG]

:salute: HI Cybermat47

Yes, it is well known that SH4 uses .GR2 format :D:haha::har:

[Cybermat47]

:salute: HI Cybermat47

Yes, it is well known that SH4 uses .GR2 format :D:haha::har:

Is this sarcasm? cos I have a feeling I've just made a fool of myself...

[TwoGamers]

Or one of us subsimmers could re-texture the old SH3 IX boats and give them all the new things SH5 requires in a U-boot

[Targor Avelany]

Or one of us subsimmers could re-texture the old SH3 IX boats and give them all the new things SH5 requires in a U-boot

the problem is importing it into the sh5 gr2 format. Even with TDW's awesome tool, you only can delete/replace in existing gr2 file, not create a new one yet (I think, there might be and probably is lots of things that I'm not aware of - I'm just learning atm).

Not only that, but just importing the hull is not enough. You also need to make all the rooms and animations. That is not including scaling of the model (not sure how close they are between games), all the sounds and meshes, equipment and effects.

I bet TDW and privateer can do it 'by hand', metaphorically speaking, but I don't think SH5 deserves it to get like this :P

[BIGREG]

Is this sarcasm? cos I have a feeling I've just made a fool of myself...

No, it was just a bit of irony :D
But without bad thoughts, and without intending to offend you :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

cos I have a feeling I've just made a fool of myself...
Read my reply in post #22. :D

[GT182]

Don't feel bad Bill, your in good company with the others that feel the same way. I'm a dummy too. ;) :D

[LtzS_Petersen]

Wishful thinking, but i also want my IXD2 back. Especially with this Monsun Gruppe Campaign in OH II. The Interieur isnt important for me, the Hull and Charakteristics are enough.

[GT182]

Wishful thinking, but i also want my IXD2 back. Especially with this Monsun Gruppe Campaign in OH II. The Interieur isnt important for me, the Hull and Charakteristics are enough.

This is the closest you can get to an IX in Sh5.
Here.... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=190992

Plus use the My Sub VIIC41 for OHII 1.7 v0.5 mod. One thing you won't have is the 2nd stern torpedo tube.
Here.... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=181707&highlight=My+Sub+VIIC41+for+OHII+1.7+v0.5+mod

[JU_88]

I hate to say it, but market-wise, I don't think they're interested. If I try to look at it from their point of view, SH5 wasn't a big success for them. A lot of money, time, and resources went in-and a glitchy, buggy game was produced, packaged, and sold with not a whole lot of return. I'm sure they know about communities like this one and the modders that basically rewrote their programs and made it better. It's like a slap in the face to them. Their mentality is probably, " If you can do better...." type attitude. Besides, they have a TON of console games that 13 year olds will buy without hesitation. Even SH5 came out more like a console game, rather than a sim. The modders turned it into a sim. Look at the Assassin's Creed series; BIG success for them, so that's where they're gonna put their resources....where they can MAKE MONEY. To me, it's like any corporation, their not in it for the product, or even, the art; they want a return in the black ink. SH series is a dead horse to them.
I totally agree with wanting to expand it to the later boats, mainly because my passion for U-boats started with U-505 and it is a TYPE IXC. I'd love to Captain that boat, even if it's just on my computer. But we'd have better luck working together and coming up with it as a mod. I know I'm no modder, I wouldn't know where, how to begin. But we're the only ones who care, so we have the power to make it happen, much more power than relying on UBISOFT or any other major corporation to listen and agree. Just my opinion, and I could be wrong, most of the time I am.


Well the series isnt a total dead horse to them since they just pushed SH online though development, even though it looks like a load of old toss, it might attact some newcomers, who then might go sniffing around on Steam for a richer experience. (could happen) As long as SH5 is on steam its going to sell a few copies here and there - espeically when its on sale.
But Ubi will not make DLC if they only think a few hundred people will buy it...
I'll sign the petition while expecting the worst but hoping for the best.

I guess in hind sight Ubi could have done a 'Railworks' on SH5, it might have worked.... SH5 was rushed but still very playable and well presented, I guess it must have tanked quite badly for them to not want to bother with any attempt to salvage it.