Is this worth buying

[TwoGamers]

Is this worth buying

[Targor Avelany]

only you yourself can answer that question. There are as twice as many opinions as the users on this forum... and even more outside!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198266

[dottore]

I am a simulator fan and don't need fancy graphics. Gameplay and complexity is more important to me. But the modded SH5 is breathtaking when you first launch. (I use Sober's megamod with subtle patches.) This can not be said about the vanilla game.

[THE_MASK]

Buy the dvd , you can apply the unofficial patches . They dont work with steam version .

[Webster]

Is this worth buying

how can you even ask that of any game that costs less then a happy meal at mcdonalds? :o

[Zzenith]

At the price you can get it now and the entertainment provided once modded of course its worth buying.

I just bought it and am now looking at the mod sections forums now.

[Sabatasso]

When I first played SH5 my jaw dropped to the ground in disappointment... I actually threw the DVD in the bin, hoping to forget there ever was another SH after III. (I didn't throw away SH4, I just never bought it.)

So, what I'm asking here is quite simply if SH5 is anywhere near SH3 (GW3 etc) in immersion and playability now that there surely are a vast selection of finely tuned mods out there?

Graphics isn't really an issue, but I know how visually nice SH5 are, so if the gameplay has been modded to tolerable levels, it's a tempting switch for me, at least for diversity.

Anyone got a considered view on the issue at hand?


edit:
First post;

Hello, my name is not important. I am 33 years old and have been playing subsims since forever...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Buy it, try it, mod it, try it again. Like it or not you've then got your own opinion. It costs little these days. :up:

[Sabatasso]

My mind is already so negative towards the game that I need a positive feedback to even bother buying and installing it again. Basically what I am asking is "does it still suck, or is there a redemption through mods that makes it worthwhile at all?".

Misunderstand me correctly, I have nothing against Ubisoft, but to be fair, they haven't actually outdone themselves with the Silent Hunter series lately, not to mention how pathetically they effed up with the online anti piracy project that failed so miserably that they almost deserve bankruptcy, interpret that as you please... and not to instigate a huge discussion, but they've more or less destroyed Assassin's Creed from a "mature gamers" point of view... my point is that they've been more or less console oriented (instant action -> fcuk quality) minded lately (last five years or so...). Before you pass judgment, I've played and enjoyed many Ubisoft games, even the Assassins Creed games, but if you look at the evolution of that once great game, it becomes more of a "no effort graphic novel" than an actual game. (having said that, the new AC game look amazing if they refrain from scripting every major encounter to death... hard to say from the vids tbh...)

/rant off...

EDIT: (/rant on... :D )
I am after immersion and realism over flashy graphics and cool explosions and pathetic epic tales... I am after what "escapist artist" called Dark souls (http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/01/is-dark-souls-a-100-hour-waste-of-time/). "a waste of time, but you don't realize it because it's so great".

I want a game that is so good that it doesn't really need a tailored story to go with it. Much like SH3 with GW (of course...) if you get what I mean.


PS. I'm sorry if I'm ranting, but I am drunk and I've just been at a Joe Lynn Turner concert, and against all odds it was effin amazing. If I'm not making any sense right now, blame it on the rock n' roll... I'll specify tomorrow :rock:

While I am at it... listen and enjoy this great piece of music;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR-wgQNrR1U

:rock:

EDIT 2;
Buy it, try it, mod it, try it again. Like it or not you've then got your own opinion. It costs little these days. :up:

What I basically mean is that I anticipated such a response and I wanted someone passionate about the game to point out the positives (including mods) that I have not yet experienced (in the game in question), and to be honest I had not expected this game to ever be playable at all due to its pathetic state on release. I am basically giving it a minor second chance, but I'm not willing to support Ubisoft economically without any form of reflected feedback. I've bought the game once, and I am not to do the same mistake again without any form of half-unbiased reflection about the positives (which were few and far between upon release) about the game.

So... (you might call me an ass) but I want (potentially) you to "sell" me the game a second time... make it worthwhile over a product that already has passed the test of time (SH3 with GW ++) (again, misunderstand me correctly, I am merely trying to express myself in a foreign language)

I am not expecting you, or anyone, to "sell" me the game, I merely give a willing soul the opportunity to give me the heads up on the selling points of the game, if there are any valid ones...

Like I said, not expecting anything, just hoping... giving anyone the opportunity to recruit another sucker.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I want (potentially) you to "sell" me the game

I am not expecting you, or anyone, to "sell" me the game

Well that's confusing - do you want someone to 'sell' the game, or not? :hmm2:

Sober, TDW, Trevally, et al*, have each worked their butts off to get this game to a more playable state - and I believe, by and large, that they have succeeded, but still they toil further to give us the game it should've been.

All there effort, you should try it for sure. :yep:

Finally, we are a family friendly forum, you may wish to remove the swearing - in whatever guise it may be - before a passing mod notices.

[THE_MASK]

I think i would have spent at least half an hour testing all my mods over the last couple of years . If you have the dvd and install the correct mods then the game is enjoyable .

[GT182]

Game play is not the same as SH3. It's different in that BDU gives you objectives to complete. And it can be a daunting experience to say the least. With the right mods it will look great and will also keep you on your toes. ;)

The TDC is nowhere the same as in SHII unless you use TheDarkWarith's TDC UIs. If you don't use his then do practice in the single Historical missions before you start your campaign.

Good luck Captain. :salute:

[Trevally.]

Every now and then people breeze in here and rant-
"This game is rubbish"
"I'm going to throw it in the bin"
"Convince me to try your mods".

No, throw it in the bin - your loss:arrgh!:

[THE_MASK]

Spend the 5 bucks on a couple of cheese burgers . At least you know you already hate it .

[JacqueShredo]

It's a great game because of this very forum

If you take your time with it and patch and mod it to your taste the game is truly great

[Sabatasso]

Well that's confusing - do you want someone to 'sell' the game, or not? :hmm2:


I want you to, but I'm not expecting or demanding you to... is that so hard to understand?

[GT182]

It's a great game because of this very forum

If you take your time with it and patch and mod it to your taste the game is truly great

Exactly! But you have to figure which mods you want to use. Everyone is different in their choice, so you have to decide on your own. All the mods are great, and they keep on getting better as time goes by.

So throw it in the trash... Better yet, give it to someone that will appreciate it more than you.

[Sabatasso]

Better yet, give it to someone that will appreciate it more than you.

At the time I threw it away, the game was simply unplayable due to Ubisoft's fantastic online DRM attempt. Giving it away would simply have been more evil than nice.

I'll give the game another chance once the mid-exams are done with, it's not very smart to install a potential mega time waster so close to an important test.

[CaptainHaplo]

I have tried to like this game, really I have.

Granted - I haven't troed in a while, but unless the mods change the way the game actually plays (ie - how to hit something with a torp), I don't know that I can bring myself to try again.

[Trevally.]

but unless the mods change the way the game actually plays (ie - how to hit something with a torp), I don't know that I can bring myself to try again.

Without some sort of information - how can we tell.

We can guess that you mean the the "line up marks 1,2 and 3"
If so yes there are many more way to hit something with a torp.

1. You can call out the data and the XO will input ready to fire
2. You can use a fully working TDC with ALL dials (even track hit angle)
3. You can use a ROABF wheel and input to TDC or call to XO
4. You can use an attack wheel and input TDC or call to XO
5. You can use the hydro and map to plot (4 bearings) and input data or call out to xo
6. When calling out to XO you can use you PC mike and realy call out (wife may give you funny looks)

You can also (like so many like in SH3) point and shoot.

So - I am not too sure if there are many other ways that shooting a torp at a ship could be done:hmmm::03:

[mobucks]

T:/\\!!his thread? Still?

[Kalleblom]

T:/\\!!his thread? Still?

:06:

[sflo]

I am a real fan of SH3 @ GWX gold mod.

I bought SH5 3 days ago, after realizing that it it is not longer needede to be online while playing (this is the "agenda" I can live with: pay, but then be free...). Well, I bought it as a download version, so no no CD, easy install. And:

first thing I did:
was looking around here ,and testing MODs. Great, I had a lot of fun, and although I did not start actual gameplay, just testing / changingin mods (I like to play around with sea waves parameter), is a "game by its own" :)
And fromn the results ... I look forward to play the ganme.

Seconb thing I did:
donate 20 bucks. Graet Community, great forum.

So I can tell you ... without even playing a single mission ... YES, it is worth to by it :)


- sflo -





It's a great game because of this very forum

If you take your time with it and patch and mod it to your taste the game is truly great

[Targor Avelany]

Without some sort of information - how can we tell.

We can guess that you mean the the "line up marks 1,2 and 3"
If so yes there are many more way to hit something with a torp.

1. You can call out the data and the XO will input ready to fire
2. You can use a fully working TDC with ALL dials (even track hit angle)
3. You can use a ROABF wheel and input to TDC or call to XO
4. You can use an attack wheel and input TDC or call to XO
5. You can use the hydro and map to plot (4 bearings) and input data or call out to xo
6. When calling out to XO you can use you PC mike and realy call out (wife may give you funny looks)

You can also (like so many like in SH3) point and shoot.

So - I am not too sure if there are many other ways that shooting a torp at a ship could be done:hmmm::03:

the answer to all questions.

Can we lock the thread now?

[CCIP]

At the price that's being asked for it now, honestly, I don't think it's a question that's relevant anymore. It's so cheap that even if you don't like it that much and don't end up sticking with it for hundreds of hours, it'll still be worth your money.

[Sailor Steve]

Can we lock the thread now?
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Threads can be locked at the discretion of the forum moderator, usually if an argument has gotten out of hand, or at the request of the person who started the thread. Other than that, free and open discussion is encouraged. No one makes anyone else read the thread.

[Targor Avelany]

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Threads can be locked at the discretion of the forum moderator, usually if an argument has gotten out of hand, or at the request of the person who started the thread. Other than that, free and open discussion is encouraged. No one makes anyone else read the thread.

true enough. My apologies. I just remember you posting all the similar threads... and the continuous pointless discussion that can be resolved only by the person themselves at this point.

Again, apologies.

[Sailor Steve]

No need. You're absolutely correct in pointing out the fact that the same questions get asked over and over again. I was probably wrong to post all the links, but I get frustrated too. Part of the problem is of course that newcomers don't realize that the question might have been asked before, so they don't know to search for that possibility. The one that really gets me is the occasional member who's been around for years, and has never read the SH5 forums and so asks it again.

There are a lot of threads I wish were locked, but my wishes don't all come true either. In the end it's all good. :sunny:

[Takeda Shingen]

What Steve said. :yep:

[Webster]

I am a real fan of SH3 @ GWX gold mod.

I bought SH5 3 days ago, after realizing that it it is not longer needede to be online while playing (this is the "agenda" I can live with: pay, but then be free...). Well, I bought it as a download version, so no no CD, easy install. And:

first thing I did:
was looking around here ,and testing MODs. Great, I had a lot of fun, and although I did not start actual gameplay, just testing / changingin mods (I like to play around with sea waves parameter), is a "game by its own" :)
And fromn the results ... I look forward to play the ganme.

Seconb thing I did:
donate 20 bucks. Graet Community, great forum.

So I can tell you ... without even playing a single mission ... YES, it is worth to by it :)


- sflo -

sure hope you didnt buy the steam version? there is a fix for the exe file for the game but it only works for the non-steam version of the game.

not having that fix isnt a good thing and as a lot of people have done, its worth rebuying the game again to get a non-steam version of it

[Jimbuna]

I want you to, but I'm not expecting or demanding you to... is that so hard to understand?

Keep a cool head Kaleun...modded, the game is very playable and extremely enjoyable http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[sidslotm]

this question has been asked many times. Truth is, there has never been a better time to buy or play this game, and it looks like it will only get better due to the great modders bashing away on dark nights with only beer and crisps for company, bless them all.

[Targor Avelany]

lol, can totaly picture a group of modders posting an advert on the forums:

"Please, send beer and chips to this addreess. Starving. If you want mods."

[Sailor Steve]

this question has been asked many times. Truth is, there has never been a better time to buy or play this game, and it looks like it will only get better due to the great modders bashing away on dark nights with only beer and crisps for company, bless them all.
Here's a thought (that will never happen, but still):

The next time somebody asks this question, nobody give any explanation other than to just say:

Yes.

[Targor Avelany]

Here's a thought (that will never happen, but still):

The next time somebody asks this question, nobody give any explanation other than to just say:

Yes.

Yes. :up:

[Trevally.]

lol, can totaly picture a group of modders posting an advert on the forums:

"Please, send beer and chips to this addreess. Starving. If you want mods."

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4306/cantyoudoanythingright.jpg

[Targor Avelany]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4306/cantyoudoanythingright.jpg
:har::rotfl2::haha:

Well, I think I can make some....

[Jimbuna]

Here's a thought (that will never happen, but still):

The next time somebody asks this question, nobody give any explanation other than to just say:

Yes.

Count me in :)

[gap]

Here's a thought (that will never happen, but still):

The next time somebody asks this question, nobody give any explanation other than to just say:

Yes.

+10

[GT182]

Count me in on YES too. But.... with added advice not to buy it from Steam.