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mapuc
09-05-12, 04:02 PM
Several of my friends on Facebook, keeps on posting and reposting a speech that the Australian prime minister Julia Gillard should have made

First time I read the "speech" I was confused. Did a politician really say that, I doubted.

After a few posting on same speech, I started to dig into this story- And I found out that it was not true at all.

So I posted the link to this page that explain that. The answer I got was

-" You page is not truthfully at all "

Here are the famous speech


http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/Australian-Prime-Minister-Muslim-Immigrants.htm


I didn't see the speech for awhile, until today when one of my friends reposted it again.

Markus
Sailor Steve
09-05-12, 04:32 PM
You need to debunk it there. Show them they are posting a lie.
Herr-Berbunch
09-05-12, 04:33 PM
I remember reading that about John Howard, don't know if that was true either but it should be. :up:
mapuc
09-05-12, 04:42 PM
You need to debunk it there. Show them they are posting a lie.

You're right Steve. The problem is that, there are people that are so in hate of other people, religion, politics a.s.o, that they believe everything as long it confirm their hatred.

I have decided to just leave it there. Next time I see someone post that speech I do nothing.

Many of them are my friends, but I do not share all of their believes.

Markus
Sailor Steve
09-05-12, 06:30 PM
The problem is that, there are people that are so in hate of other people, religion, politics a.s.o, that they believe everything as long it confirm their hatred.
Sounds just like some of the threads we see here. The big difference here is that we don't put up with it. :sunny:
Takeda Shingen
09-05-12, 06:50 PM
Sounds just like some of the threads we see here. The big difference here is that we don't put up with it. :sunny:

Exactly. I see it as the duty of the community to wage war against ignorance. :up:
razark
09-05-12, 06:59 PM
Exactly. I see it as the duty of the community to wage war against ignorance. :up:
Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever.
mookiemookie
09-05-12, 07:20 PM
Unfortunately, posting a lie over and over on the internet makes it true in the minds of the folks who wish to believe it so.
Ducimus
09-05-12, 07:22 PM
Posting a lie, doesn't make it true

It's my understanding that if something is repeated enough, some people can be made to believe anything. A couple people on this very forum, are fantastic examples of this.
Cybermat47
09-05-12, 08:24 PM
What the ...
Oberon
09-05-12, 10:13 PM
It's my understanding that if something is repeated enough, some people can be made to believe anything. A couple people on this very forum, are fantastic examples of this.

Heck, conspiracy theorists would argue that non-conspiracy theorists are the ones who have repeated the lie over and over again.
C'est la vie. The truth is in the eye of the beholder. :yep:
Kptlt. Neuerburg
09-05-12, 10:51 PM
Don't forget what this guy said about lies.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3677/429pxbundesarchivbild14.jpg
Tribesman
09-06-12, 01:49 AM
A question mapuc.
Several times you have posted some crazyness your friends have posted to you, several times you have put up loony conspiracy theories you have been forwarded by your friends.
At what point do you decide that those friends are actually crazy and should be laughed at instead of accomodated?


You write that in future you will ignore some of their nonsense you describe as hate filled.
In my opinion if you were really their friend you would call them fools and point out their sillyness.
soopaman2
09-06-12, 05:12 AM
Don't forget what this guy said about lies.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3677/429pxbundesarchivbild14.jpg

If you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth.

I can point you to a news outlet owned by an Australian that does that. He has more influence over American politics than citizens do.:D

So the moral is, be happy you aren't being subverted from outside, like we are.:sunny:
Tribesman
09-06-12, 06:13 AM
I can point you to a news outlet owned by an Australian that does that. He has more influence over American politics than citizens do.
No you can't.
He became an American citizen decades ago:03:
soopaman2
09-06-12, 06:37 AM
No you can't.
He became an American citizen decades ago:03:

Oops, yeah. Right on. Still...


Hey Assange is from Oz too!

Scew Iran! Bomb Oz! :rotfl2: (j/k. Bomb no one)

You want to win Romney? Promise to bomb Australia! (lulz)

Though the kangaroo delivered IED's worries me. The pouches, man!
mapuc
09-06-12, 12:47 PM
A question mapuc.
Several times you have posted some crazyness your friends have posted to you, several times you have put up loony conspiracy theories you have been forwarded by your friends.
At what point do you decide that those friends are actually crazy and should be laughed at instead of accomodated?


You write that in future you will ignore some of their nonsense you describe as hate filled.
In my opinion if you were really their friend you would call them fools and point out their sillyness.


I'm a big fan of conspiracy or I'm very interested in them. I love to read them- OK, on some of them I read about a half page then I move on, they are not worth wasting my time on them.

You're right I should point out how wrong they are about a certain issue, that's a lie/not true, but only to one point.

Steve, I'm sorry if I posted this here in GT and not debunked it on my friends walls on Facebook.

I just thought that it was an interesting issue to discus

Above the picture above. I have learned that it was Hitler that said "if you tell a lie many times, it becomes the truth"(I can't remember the exact meaning)

Markus
Sailor Steve
09-06-12, 12:55 PM
Steve, I'm sorry if I posted this here in GT and not debunked it on my friends walls on Facebook.
No need to be sorry. It was just my opinion, and what I would have done. That you feel differently doesn't reflect on either one of us. It's just the way we are.