Hey! Lay off Obama, he's done so many things other President's have not...

[Bubblehead1980]

None of this has shocked me as all anyone had to do was look into his background and read his book, every stupid thing he does fits perfectly into who he is.



Quit trashing President Obama***8217;s accomplishments. He has done more than any other President before him. He has an impressive list of accomplishments:


First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.


First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States

First President to violate the War Powers Act. .

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on ***8216;shovel-ready***8217; jobs when there was no such thing as ***8216;shovel-ready***8217; jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.

First President to terminate America ***8216;s ability to put a man in space.

First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.

First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple global ***8220;apology tours***8221; and concurrent ***8220;insult our friends***8221; tours.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they ***8220;volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences***8221;.

Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).

How is this hope and change working out for you? THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP...I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU VOTE!

[Dowly]

Mmmmm.. this copy & pasta is delicious! :88)

[Tchocky]

FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD:

[nikimcbee]

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.


I need to change professions.:o

[u crank]

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.


This really disturbs me. He can't be human. :O:

[nikimcbee]

First president to have a plush doll in one of those claw prize machines.
http://images.lighterside.com/images/products/en_us/detail/p94626.jpg (http://www.lighterside.com/product/tootin+president+barack+obama+plush.do#)

http://www.bmigaming.com/Images/pinnacle-crane-redemption-game-42-cabinet-innovative-concepts-in-entertainment-ice.jpg

No joke! The one at the grocery store I shop, had 5 obama plush dolls in there.:haha:

[Tribesman]

Mmmmm.. this copy & pasta is delicious! :88)
You can make it really tasty by.....

http://mediaexposed.tumblr.com/post/24094227750/obamas-rather-impressive-list-of-accomplishments

does that put bubbles on planet yubba?:rotfl2:

[u crank]

does that put bubbles on planet yubba?:rotfl2:

We're never gonna know about planet Yubba because....

First President to terminate America ***8216;s ability to put a man in space.

[nikimcbee]

:haha: Good point. We'll never know. Got Putin? He could probably take care of business.

[Sailor Steve]

Just when it was looking like he might actually start thinking for himself, his inner troll takes over.

[Bubblehead1980]

Just when it was looking like he might actually start thinking for himself, his inner troll takes over.


lol, just posted his long list of offenses.

[antikristuseke]

That is exactly what Steve is getting at.

[Takeda Shingen]

lol, just pasted his long list of offenses.

Dude, I thought America was dead...

[yubba]

Hey, hey, I'm suppose to be the nut job in here, And by the way where's Vendor I thought he was doing the news that networks won't. At least on planet yubba our battle cry isn't TAX THE RICH or IT'S BUSHES FAULT on my planet if shrubbery gets to be a problem we trim it back, that's something on this planet you people can't understand {like cut spending} . We believe in a fair days work for for a fair days wage, any one care to tell hows much of that I should be able to keep here on planet Liberal.....

[Takeda Shingen]

And by the way where's Vendor

I was just thinking about that the other day. He said that he was occupied in real life, but that was some time ago.

[yubba]

None of this has shocked me as all anyone had to do was look into his background and read his book, every stupid thing he does fits perfectly into who he is.



Quit trashing President Obama***8217;s accomplishments. He has done more than any other President before him. He has an impressive list of accomplishments:


First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.


First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States

First President to violate the War Powers Act. .

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on ***8216;shovel-ready***8217; jobs when there was no such thing as ***8216;shovel-ready***8217; jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.

First President to terminate America ***8216;s ability to put a man in space.

First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.

First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

First President to go on multiple global ***8220;apology tours***8221; and concurrent ***8220;insult our friends***8221; tours.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they ***8220;volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences***8221;.

Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).

How is this hope and change working out for you? THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP...I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THIS LIST WHEN YOU VOTE!

Heh huum,,, you forgot something,,,,, he has ran up more debt than all the presidents combined before him, in three in a half years, don't they give out a prize for that or put that in the worlds book of gueniss beer or something like that. So where's this ethopia, when are we going to get there, or are we there already ???? silly me forgot we.

[Oberon]

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/6/6e/Copy-Pasta.jpg

[Krauter]

Can we please get a "politics" sub-forum so we can throw any political tirades or other such non-sense in there?

[Oberon]

Then nothing would happen in GT! :o

[Takeda Shingen]

Then nothing would happen in GT! :o

Pretty much. Sorry, but we won't be making a cesspit for GT. GT is the cesspit for the rest of the fourm.

[nikimcbee]

Hey, hey, I'm suppose to be the nut job in here, And by the way where's Vendor I thought he was doing the news that networks won't. At least on planet yubba our battle cry isn't TAX THE RICH or IT'S BUSHES FAULT on my planet if shrubbery gets to be a problem we trim it back, that's something on this planet you people can't understand {like cut spending} . We believe in a fair days work for for a fair days wage, any one care to tell hows much I of that I should be able to keep here on planet Liberal.....

Do they work on PT-boat models on planet Yubba?:D

[Sailor Steve]

lol, just pasted his long list of offenses.
How many of them are verified?

[Sailor Steve]

he has ran up more debt than all the presidents combined before him
It's funny, when a Republican president does that you blame the congress, but when a Republican congress does that you blame the president.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

It's funny, when a Republican president does that you blame the congress, but when a Republican congress does that you blame the president.
Sad but true.

[CaptainHaplo]

Ya know - I can't stand the current president - but I can look at that list and prove a couple of em wrong myself without more than a couple of moments of semi-thought.

[razark]

He has an impressive list of accomplishments:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=442&pictureid=5922
http://xkcd.com/285/

[Hottentot]

Then nothing would happen in GT! :o

Not true. We would still have puppies. GT would be a big happy puppy forum.

Can we rename GT as Politics subforum and place one big happy puppy forum in its place?

[Takeda Shingen]

Can we rename GT as Politics subforum and place one big happy puppy forum in its place?

Yes.

Honestly, guys, this US election cycle has been pretty calm up to about a week ago. We're reaching the high point now with the conventions leading into the General Election. This sort of build-up will continue until around the end of October. By mid-November, things should return to normal, or about as normal as things get. If you are a political junkie, this is as good as it gets. If you're not, just hang in there. It all comes in cycles, and every type of member with every type of interest gets their day in the sun.

[Hottentot]

Cool! :D

By the way, my puppy is better than your puppy. I have it on good authority that your puppy supports the common ownership of toys and peeing on my private property, while my puppy is good and honest Doggycrat who believes your puppy should be voted out of the yard in the coming elections. So everyone vote my puppy in the next elections, or Takeda's puppy will take away all your toys and sell our yard to the evil kitten terrorists!

[Edit: Bah, there you went and edited sense into your post, making my nonsense look even more nonsensical. I'm not playing with you anymore, you kittenist!]

[Takeda Shingen]

Oh my god, I am so sending my Illuminati friends after you.

[Hottentot]

Oh my god, I am so sending my Illuminati friends after you.

Jim and Steve?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/BluesBrothers.jpg

[Bubblehead1980]

How many of them are verified?


From what I can tell, they all are verified.Obama does have some funny business with his SSN, he has taken a ridiculous number of trips, Michelle has a ridiculous staff and continues to take expensive trips on taxpayer dime.Obama has quoted from the quaran(Cairo speech I know of) and talking about how beautiful the morning call to prayer of ISLAM is.Obama did effectively end the space program for now, violate the war powers act, arbitrarily declare a law(DOMA) unconstitutional and order it not be enforced(President does not have that right) Obama has field lawsuits against states such as AZ, OH , WI etc thus not respecting the rights of the states.Obama's dog trainer(she died recently) but was kept on retainer for "emergencies" was paid 102,000 per year for a part time job at TAXPAYER expense.Obama has surrounded himself by left wing radicals and anarchists among other trash who have no place at such high levels of the united states when their beliefs are the antithesis of our constitution and values, people such as Van Jones(who was only dismissed when exposed),Valerie Jarret, Anita Dunne, Cass Sunstein, Ron Broom, Carol Browner, Elizabeth Warren.Of course, they are in lock step with obama.

[Takeda Shingen]

Jim and Steve?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/BluesBrothers.jpg

They wish they had that much hair.

[Tribesman]

How many of them are verified?
Well its an old chain e-mail so that should tell you all you need to know, the fact that it also goes CAPS LOCK just reinforces it.
If you want to check beyond the ones that are clearly bull you could try somewhere like snopes or factcheck which deals with these silly things that fly round the internet. Who knows perhaps you will find a list that goes false false untrue false misleading false meaningless false what????? false meaningless false wow.

But the illuminati link on Bubbles "truth" was funnier than posting a clear link like that:03:


From what I can tell, they all are verified.
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har: :har::har:
the legal expert demonstrates his powers of analysis and investigation in reaching the truth of the matter.
Poor Bubbles, when Haplo has already written .....I can't stand the current president - but I can look at that list and prove a couple of em wrong myself without more than a couple of moments of semi-thought. ....and you to then write what you did clearly demonstrates how much your mind doesn't work.

[Penguin]

I just put in the first sentence into a search engine, to check the source of the copypasta. The first hit led me to snopes.com, proving the statement wrong -
already in 2009...

So if already the first sentence is proven wrong since 3 years, this tells me not to waste my time "fact"-checking the other links.

If someone claims something, the proof is on them. No sources = just some web babbling...

[Bubblehead1980]

I just put in the first sentence into a search engine, to check the source of the copypasta. The first hit led me to snopes.com, proving the statement wrong -
already in 2009...

So if already the first sentence is proven wrong since 3 years, this tells me not to waste my time "fact"-checking the other links.

If someone claims something, the proof is on them. No sources = just some web babbling...

Actually, seems there may be some ambiguity there, like many details of his life.When so many things are ambiguous about a person, it usually means there is something shady there, somewhere.Kind of like if you meet someone and they can't give you a simple explanation of what they do for a living, it means there is something there.For example, a lawyer will say a lawyer, attorney, etc then can expand on that if asked.There are others who give answers such as those with the "_____ field" , 8 out of 10 times I have found it's something shady.Judging from discussions with others, it's not isolated to me.The man just has too many ambiguities in his background etc. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Many on the list are absolutely true though.....the dog trainer who makes 102,000 per year for a part time job.The trips, the quoting of quran, his spending over a millions dollars in legal fees to hide his records from being released.Surrounding himself with left wing radicals in his administration, imposing damaging regulations on the coal industry,filing lawsuits, attempting to prevent Boeing from moving it's plant to SC to appease the unions, thus trying to interfere in private business.Refusing to enforce/defend a law while declaring it unconstitutional(DOMA), which he has no authority to do.The list goes on and on, and on and is mostly accurate.

[Bubblehead1980]

Well its an old chain e-mail so that should tell you all you need to know, the fact that it also goes CAPS LOCK just reinforces it.
If you want to check beyond the ones that are clearly bull you could try somewhere like snopes or factcheck which deals with these silly things that fly round the internet. Who knows perhaps you will find a list that goes false false untrue false misleading false meaningless false what????? false meaningless false wow.

But the illuminati link on Bubbles "truth" was funnier than posting a clear link like that:03:



:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har: :har::har:
the legal expert demonstrates his powers of analysis and investigation in reaching the truth of the matter.
Poor Bubbles, when Haplo has already written .....I can't stand the current president - but I can look at that list and prove a couple of em wrong myself without more than a couple of moments of semi-thought. ....and you to then write what you did clearly demonstrates how much your mind doesn't work.

You really are the typical liberal, attempt to take everything out of context and twist it.Of course, you believe you are soo bright:haha: The "From what I can tell" was a way of saying I did not fact check everything on the list but at a glance, it all looks about right and I stand by that.The first one concerning his applying for aid as a foreign student, well there seems to be(like many important details in his life) some ambiguity(people just dont have this much ambiguity, especially presidents) it just is another sign of we know it, but can't give you 100% CSI proof.Same thing as having strong circumstantial evidence in a murder case and some juries just want CSI TV style evidence that just does not work that way.

Add up the trouble with and reluctance to release the birth certificate, his multiple SSN's uncovered by a non political private investigator worked an unrelated matter(who I read actually voted for him) his attempt to hide, college and travel records, etc, it amounts to a shady individual.Is there the "CSI" style proof yet? no but there evidence is certainly mounting.The government has executed many people with less evidence that this.

Want to actually debunk the list? feel free, you may able to debunk a few but most are just confirmed facts.The dog trainer, comments he has made,regulations to hurt a vital american industry(coal) in hard economic times, which will cause electric bills to rise.Not respecting state's rights and suing them(AZ, OH, WI) etc Not respecting the role of congress, bypassing them and creating what amounts to amnesty for many illegal immigrants.The list just goes on and on and on.

Ahhh, you are a storehouse of ignorance.

[Tribesman]

Actually, seems there may be some ambiguity there, like many details of his life.When so many things are ambiguous about a person, it usually means there is something shady there, somewhere
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:
Bubbles you put up something including a 3 year old april fools joke and you somehow think it may be true.

The first one concerning his applying for aid as a foreign student, well there seems to be(like many important details in his life) some ambiguity
The only ambiguity is how the silly story managed to survive a day three years ago.

The list goes on and on, and on and is mostly accurate.
Your comedy value goes on and on.

Want to actually debunk the list?
The list was debunked long ago, you are so far behind its almost sad.
What happened did you spam filter block out this ancient chain e-mail?

Many on the list are absolutely true though.....the dog trainer who makes 102,000 per year for a part time job.
nuttier than a sack of almonds:har::har::har::har::har:
it is true bubbles the dog trainer did make $102K.
Are you complaining that a business can make $102k a year by having lots of different clients?:doh:

Add up the trouble with and reluctance to release the birth certificate
Wow Bubbles is a Birther

[HunterICX]

Yes.

Honestly, guys, this US election cycle

Can't we just pre-emptive ban everyone that are known to stir up the pot with every election next time? For the amount of time the election is going on ofcourse....*coughs*

and yes this is obviously the UN trying to take your subsim away from you.
If we can't take your guns we'll take your forum!

HunterICX

[Dowly]

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.

Ooops!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

Ooops!
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp

First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences".

Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

Ooops!
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/veteranshealth.asp


That took me a whopping 10 minutes to go through the Snopes articles for Obama
while drinking my delicious morning coffee. Makes one wonder how many of
the points can be proven wrong with a little more research, doesn't it? :88)

[Ducimus]

You know you lurk in GT too much when you see a post title and know it means the exact opposite of what it says based on who posted it before you even click on the link.

[Dowly]

You know you lurk in GT too much when you see a post title and know it means the exact opposite of what it says based on who posted it before you even click on the link.

This is true. :)

[Betonov]

You know you lurk in GT too much when you see a post title and know it means the exact opposite of what it says based on who posted it before you even click on the link.

Guilty :D

But it also means double the fun

[yubba]

Hey, hey, At least on planet yubba our battle cry isn't TAX THE RICH or IT'S BUSHES FAULT on my planet if shrubbery gets to be a problem we trim it back, that's something on this planet you people can't understand {like cut spending} . We believe in a fair days work for for a fair days wage, any one care to tell hows much of that I should be able to keep here on planet Liberal.....
I still haven't heard how much of my wages I get to keep, so I can pay inflated prices on food and gas, I guess now the liberal media claims that we are talking in racial code, and me with out my decoder ring:har::har::har:heres something that is not in code, the liberal side of the planet sux.

[Oberon]

Nurse, he's talking to himself again! :timeout:

[mookiemookie]

Bubs and Yubs in one thread. That's good for some entertainment.

[u crank]

Bubs and Yubs in one thread. That's good for some entertainment.

One of them is very entertaining. :hmmm:

[Armistead]

Actually, seems there may be some ambiguity there, like many details of his life.When so many things are ambiguous about a person, it usually means there is something shady there, somewhere.Kind of like if you meet someone and they can't give you a simple explanation of what they do for a living, it means there is something there. Many on the list are absolutely true though.....

What happened to innocent before proven guilty?
What happened to free speech?
This nation wasn't founded on Christianity, it was stolen from others based on Christianity.

[Sailor Steve]

From what I can tell, they all are verified.
That was your cue to provide real verification, not guess and hope.

[Sailor Steve]

Well its an old chain e-mail so that should tell you all you need to know
I already knew all that. My comment was a challenge to provide evidence or stop posting nonsense.

[Sailor Steve]

You really are the typical liberal
And you are the typical neocon, though you deny it on a regular basis.

The "From what I can tell" was a way of saying I did not fact check everything on the list but at a glance, it all looks about right and I stand by that.
It's your job to verify everything you claim, or be ready to upon request. If you won't do that, then you are repeating innuendo and rumor and calling it fact, which is very poor research indeed. You make a habit of doing this.

(people just dont have this much ambiguity, especially presidents)
You certainly seem to. You spout it all the time.

Want to actually debunk the list? feel free, you may able to debunk a few but most are just confirmed facts.
It's your job to back up everything you post. If you're not willing to do that, don't post it.

Ahhh, you are a storehouse of ignorance.
Now that's funny, Mister Pot.

[Sailor Steve]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp[/URL]
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/firstlady.asp
http://snopes.com/politics/obama/veteranshealth.asp
Looks to me that someone who claims to be intellectual needs to apologise to the forum for posting crap and calling it truth.

[Dowly]

Looks to me that someone who claims to be intellectual needs to apologise to the forum for posting crap and calling it truth.

Ah, but he will just stick to the points that have not been debunked yet (or
verified for that matter). :O:

[Tribesman]

Ah, but he will just stick to the points that have not been debunked yet (or
verified for that matter). :O:
You mean the things like the pen, where he is the first president to use the new technology?

Wierd one that, must be related to the illuminati reptilians and alien inventions or something. I bet there was a snail mail chain letter the first time a President used a telephone too:03:

[mookiemookie]

The pigeon strikes again. Flies in, dumps a load of crap on the forum, makes a lot of noise and then flies away.

Fly, pigeon, fly!

[Sailor Steve]

The pigeon strikes again. Flies in, dumps a load of crap on the forum, makes a lot of noise and then flies away.

Fly, pigeon, fly!
I'm rather fond of the original, though it's only loosely related to the point here. Not meaning to change the subject, but the imagery is apt.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pigeon%20chess

[Tribesman]

Not meaning to change the subject, but the imagery is apt.

There hasn't been a cretinism topic for a while.

[Hottentot]

The pigeon strikes again. Flies in, dumps a load of crap on the forum, makes a lot of noise and then flies away.

Fly, pigeon, fly!

Last time you said that about him, I thought you were being inappropriate and mentioned it, but you know what? I'm inclined to agree with you.

I'm not against discussing politics of any country. I actually enjoy following such discussion and find many posters here to have lots of things to say from which I can learn something. I'm not even against discussing the politics of any country a lot when they have elections coming soon, even though I must admit that I don't feel a pressing need to suddenly start threads about political issues every time Finns have elections. If you want to state your mind and these issues are close to you then hey, go ahead. I don't even mind being enthusiastic about it.

But lately there have been too many propaganda threads for my liking, this one included. What is the point? Have any Americans here ever said after reading such thing: "Gosh, man, this totally opened my eyes and I'm not going to vote him next time"?

These kind of chain emails and posting them on forums are no different from good old agit train touring the countryside, telling everyone how great the Party is. The same kind of people run both. And I might add that Sinyavsky's quote in my sig is still very relevant.

[Krauter]

Yes.

Honestly, guys, this US election cycle has been pretty calm up to about a week ago. We're reaching the high point now with the conventions leading into the General Election. This sort of build-up will continue until around the end of October. By mid-November, things should return to normal, or about as normal as things get. If you are a political junkie, this is as good as it gets. If you're not, just hang in there. It all comes in cycles, and every type of member with every type of interest gets their day in the sun.

I understand this, but I'm not American and, to me at least, it doesn't seem fair that I have to sift through a ton of posts talking, or spamming, or trolling about American politics that I have no interest in. GT at least used to have some 'fun' threads or threads that provided good debates or were an insight into something I hadn't known before. Now it's just.. crap tbh.

Krauter

[nikimcbee]

The pigeon strikes again. Flies in, dumps a load of crap on the forum, makes a lot of noise and then flies away.

Fly, pigeon, fly!

You mean TvM?:D:haha:

[Dowly]

GT at least used to have some 'fun' threads or threads that provided good debates or were an insight into something I hadn't known before. Now it's just.. crap tbh.

Krauter

I agree. :hmmm:

[CCIP]

It was like this 4 years ago. Drove me quite nuts actually, and although it wasn't the thing that really made me leave the forum for over a year at the time (I left because I was a bit overwhelmed with real-life stuff), it certainly didn't help and made me quite angry and reluctant to return :-?

Just don't let yourself get dragged into the debates, because then it'll make you angry. Do your best to focus on other stuff instead and, hey, you can always start more fun topics!

[Hottentot]

Just don't let yourself get dragged into the debates, because then it'll make you angry.

If there was a debate, I don't think there would be nearly as many complaints. A serious thread rarely gets ridiculed. But what debate is there in this thread? What is there in this thread to begin with? What are the rest of us supposed to say? "Oh yeah, I totally agree, he is such a scumback"?

[Takeda Shingen]

I understand this, but I'm not American and, to me at least, it doesn't seem fair that I have to sift through a ton of posts talking, or spamming, or trolling about American politics that I have no interest in. GT at least used to have some 'fun' threads or threads that provided good debates or were an insight into something I hadn't known before. Now it's just.. crap tbh.

Krauter

Is is any different than STEED an BossMark running around about 'Tory this' and 'Tory that'? Again, if you don't like it, that is fine. It will all be over in a few months. It isn't out of hand (yet) and if it gets to be too much there are more than enough moderators watching.

As CCIP said, nothing is stopping you from making threads about things that interest you. Try swamping the forum with fun.

[mookiemookie]

You mean TvM?:D:haha:

Him too.

Look, it's a typical post from Bubs:

http://i.imgur.com/9CjXP.gif

[Krauter]

Edit: ^ :rotfl2:


It was like this 4 years ago. Drove me quite nuts actually, and although it wasn't the thing that really made me leave the forum for over a year at the time (I left because I was a bit overwhelmed with real-life stuff), it certainly didn't help and made me quite angry and reluctant to return :-?

Just don't let yourself get dragged into the debates, because then it'll make you angry. Do your best to focus on other stuff instead and, hey, you can always start more fun topics!

In all honestly the only thing I come to subsim for anymore is GG section. I don't get sucked into debates because I rarely if ever read the posts anymore because I know it's mostly garbage now. Just reading half the comments (including Tory this, Tory that, just gets me riled up because to me, it's not what subsim is about or what it used to be.

As for "bear with it for the next month or so": I could just as well leave and be done with it all together, but the community here has me coming back every now and again. Instead of bearing with political tirades and b.s posts just make a "politics" subforum and put the garbage where it belongs. From what I see all the threads having to do with politics these days degenerate into "X party is better then Y! You're dumb if you don't agree and you're a hippy/commy/nazi/zionist/left/right wing bastard for liking them!". It used to be funny seeing how dumb the arguments would devolve into. Now it's just sad.

[Takeda Shingen]

There are 40 threads on the first page of GT, excluding stickies. 8 of them are political. If you want to leave over that it is your choice, but it seems silly to me.

GT is the grab-bag. Sometimes you grab good stuff. Sometimes you get some stuff that is not-so-good.

[razark]

Look, it's a typical post from Bubs:

That's not a fair comparison.

I mean, you can see that the gorilla actually has something to throw.

[Tarrasque]

Is is any different than STEED an BossMark running around about 'Tory this' and 'Tory that'?

Course it is. The stuff being said about the UK's 'wonderful' government is all truth, rather than just some emailed chain letter. :D

[nikimcbee]

Him too.

Look, it's a typical post from Bubs:

http://i.imgur.com/9CjXP.gif

:haha: Well, atleast we can agree.

[geetrue]

I like GT ...

at least you get to see what other people think that are from all over the world including the united kingdom and germany (once known as arch enemies of each other).

plus the people on GT don't get paid for their views on life or politics which makes for a more innocent survey of what people think.

Birds of a feather flock together :yep:

[CaptainHaplo]

If there was a debate, I don't think there would be nearly as many complaints. A serious thread rarely gets ridiculed. But what debate is there in this thread? What is there in this thread to begin with? What are the rest of us supposed to say? "Oh yeah, I totally agree, he is such a scumback"?

I tried to create a bit of debate by slamming the obvious untruths - even though I detest the administration's direction of this President. I honestly expected the OP and a few other dye'd in the wool "anything democrat is evil" types to pop up and challenge my assertation - they didn't - suprisingly.

[soopaman2]

I tried to create a bit of debate by slamming the obvious untruths - even though I detest the administration's direction of this President. I honestly expected the OP and a few other dye'd in the wool "anything democrat is evil" types to pop up and challenge my assertation - they didn't - suprisingly.


Certain people just repeat things, or copy & paste from a far out wingnuts website. They do not think about what they are reading, or even question the validity, or underlying motives of said author.

Kneejerk politics. It is why we, and some other countries are in the mess we are in.

Extremism due to economical strife is another reason.

[Bubblehead1980]

And you are the typical neocon, though you deny it on a regular basis.


It's your job to verify everything you claim, or be ready to upon request. If you won't do that, then you are repeating innuendo and rumor and calling it fact, which is very poor research indeed. You make a habit of doing this.


You certainly seem to. You spout it all the time.


It's your job to back up everything you post. If you're not willing to do that, don't post it.


Now that's funny, Mister Pot.

How am I a neocon? lol that is insulting.

I noted that not everything was verified but in interest of time I posted it, many, if not the majority of things are true.

[Bubblehead1980]

Looks to me that someone who claims to be intellectual needs to apologise to the forum for posting crap and calling it truth.


Like I said, some were not verified, but many are true.

The first lady may not have been the first as it claimed, but she has a ridiculous number of taxpayer funded staffers.No first lady should have that many.

[Bubblehead1980]

Certain people just repeat things, or copy & paste from a far out wingnuts website. They do not think about what they are reading, or even question the validity, or underlying motives of said author.

Kneejerk politics. It is why we, and some other countries are in the mess we are in.

Extremism due to economical strife is another reason.


Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

[CaptainHaplo]

I would hardly call the repetition of incorrect political "facts" on a website as extremism - in defense of liberty or otherwise. When its done without consideration of fact to simply promote an agenda - it is however to be considered annoying at the least.

If your going to give the current administration grief, by all means have at it. They have definitely given the citizenry more than adequate reasons to do so. Yet in doing so, you have to have at least some basis in fact to do so, and realize that when you fail to have that - you come across looking like the facts don't matter.

Given that I don't like the current administration policies, I don't understand why it is necessary to attack them with falsehoods. Using easily debunked political untruths is counterproductive. Not to mention, its what they (the current administration) are doing themselves, so to do the same merely makes you as bad as they are.

There is too much truth available to use against them to ever excuse laziness in the pursuit of firing these idiots in November.

[Hottentot]

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

Every lunatic claims to represent a higher cause.

[Sailor Steve]

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
But laziness and blind adherence to party doctrine certainly are.

@ CaptainHaplo: Well said! :sunny: