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Jimbuna
08-24-12, 06:18 AM
Can't help but feel sympathy for this guy.

Did he ever provide a positive drugs test?

The guy retired last year so why the ongoing witch hunt?


US cycling star Lance Armstrong has announced he will no longer fight drug charges from the US anti-doping agency, ahead of a Friday deadline.
In a statement, the 40-year-old maintains he is innocent, but says he is weary of the "nonsense" accusations.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19364384

Betonov
08-24-12, 06:43 AM
The guy retired last year so why the ongoing witch hunt?



The usual I believe.

Someones social advancement and personal glory by destroying a celebrities good name.

Herr-Berbunch
08-24-12, 06:58 AM
Ridiculous :/\\!!

And I don't think the USADA has the authority to take away his TDF wins. I hope.

HunterICX
08-24-12, 07:01 AM
And I don't think the USADA has the authority to take away his TDF wins. I hope.

From what I've red they may take away the 7 titles he owns

HunterICX

Jimbuna
08-24-12, 07:13 AM
The latest I've read is that ten of his ex-team mates are willing to testify against him but there are concerns they have been offered 'inducements' to to so.

Alex
08-24-12, 07:30 AM
Did he ever provide a positive drugs test?
Being at the top for so much time is quite a telltale sign - talking only about that oxygen-rich blood factory the whole Tour de France has got to be, since it's the only cycling competition I know well enough to say it's the yearly big joke here. But since that guy seems to have finished first in other cycling competitions in the meantime (:huh: ?) let's admit his heart wouldn't have been able to resist without drugs.

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/942017hop.jpg

ROFL !

Skybird
08-24-12, 09:10 AM
They all are doped. What I cannot stand is the hypocrisy and lying about it. That is where the real cheating is: in claiming shiny illusions to be real, preaching high morals while spending nights in a whorehouse.

Legalise doping in sports - and ban profitable commercial contracts being allowed to sign before five years after career's end. If then people still are stupid enough to risk their health for that three seconds of fame and glory, well - the world will survive it. And forget soon.

The real effort to be applauded lies in the years of training and discipline, and overcoming oneself in all that time. Whipping one'S own inner dog during the race, is just seconds, minutes, maybe one or two hours. Whipping one's inner dog day in day out, for years - that is where the battle is being lost or won.

We make too much a hype about it all, the shows, the moneys, the fame, the stars, the applaus. And that exaggerated attention is what has pushed things over the cliff.

Armistead
08-24-12, 09:25 AM
Who knows what the truth is. As far as I've read he has passed numerous drugs test by different methods.

"He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests he passed as proof of his innocence while piling up Tour titles from 1999 to 2005. "

Whatever the future, crap like this can't go on year after year after year. If they can't prove it, the process needs to stop. Lance can clearly argue as he has, that the process for years is simply no longer worth it to him or his family.

The fans are left with no answers, did he cheat or was it a witch hunt. It will never be answered.

Now let's see if everyone goes after his money, which would be hard to do, because he still hasn't been found guilty.

Tchocky
08-24-12, 11:45 AM
Today's news shows he's a risk-taker, naming his book what he did.

http://i.imgur.com/xA0I4.jpg
http://images.borders.com.au/images/bau/97817417/9781741757569/0/0/plain/its-not-about-the-bike-my-journey-back-to-life.jpg.

That was risky. You might say it took ball(s).

HunterICX
08-24-12, 12:50 PM
Seems that Usada formally took his 7 tour titles and suspended him for life.

HunterICX

Schroeder
08-24-12, 01:44 PM
I guess that all the guys on the positions behind him are starting to shake now in fear that their own doping gets discovered. I don't think that any of the top 50 is without any form of "chemical support".:down:

Jimbuna
08-24-12, 02:10 PM
Seems that Usada formally took his 7 tour titles and suspended him for life.

HunterICX

It's one helluva way to end such a great career and set of achievements.

gimpy117
08-24-12, 02:28 PM
and all of France says: mission accomplished!!!

and declares a national "lets throw mud at lance day"

Herr-Berbunch
08-24-12, 02:40 PM
What happened to a fair fight and due process. Not a lynch mob.

Alex
08-24-12, 05:18 PM
and all of France says: mission accomplished!!!And why would anyone say that in here, if you please ?

On the contrary, everyone who's got to speak about this guy in the news so far did it tactfully and according to their means. Everyone knows very well that poor cycling laboratory mouse is not responsible for the injections he's got to have. But feel free to keep making fools out of people if you like, haha.

In fact, the only thing that would do some good to the cycle racing world would be the early death of famous racing cyclists such as this guy, due to any blood disease. At least it would force people to become conscious of what they do when they accept full blood transfusion shortly before some cycling competition.

Takeda Shingen
08-24-12, 06:02 PM
and all of France says: mission accomplished!!!

and declares a national "lets throw mud at lance day"

To quote from the article again:

US anti-doping agency

gimpy117
08-24-12, 11:43 PM
To quote from the article again:

yeah i know, but the french are still probably rejoicing. they tries darn hard to pin doping on him too

HunterICX
08-25-12, 03:33 AM
It's one helluva way to end such a great career and set of achievements.

Aye that,
undeserved how they have to end it for him like this.

HunterICX

Onkel Neal
08-25-12, 04:26 AM
I don't keep up with the sport, but found the logic in this article interesting.


People lie. Blood and urine usually don't. And if they do, they don't lie 500 times. People do. Some lie that many times in a week. But okay. Let's assume these people really are witnesses, let's assume they're telling the truth, and then let's assume that their testimony is the new standard, outweighing all drug test results.


I don't know if Armstrong did the things he's accused of doing, and neither do you. I don't know if these witnesses are telling the truth, and neither do you. I do know two things: First, he passed all his tests. And second, if he had failed a drug test, and brought in 10 people to testify that they were with him every minute of every day leading up to the test and he never ingested anything, never injected anything, never doped his blood, would we be having this debate today? No, because he would have failed a drug test, and all the testimony in the world wouldn't matter.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/othersports/lance-armstrong-vs-usada-what-are-we-to-believe/2012/08/24/62940afa-ee0a-11e1-afd6-f55f84bc0c41_story.html

Kongo Otto
08-26-12, 04:56 AM
yeah i know, but the french are still probably rejoicing. they tries darn hard to pin doping on him too

As they did on others too, so what?
If you make a list off racing cyclists which are not connected to somekind of enhancement drug etc, it would be a pretty short list.
And now lets wait and see how many of those Olympic Heroes (regardless of the Nation) will still have their Olympic Medals next year.

Btw, i think most of "the French" don't give a flying fart about Lance Armstrong.

Alex
08-26-12, 05:15 AM
As they did on others too, so what?
If you make a list off racing cyclists which are not connected to somekind of enhancement drug etc, it would be a pretty short list.
And now lets wait and see how many of those Olympic Heroes (regardless of the Nation) will still have their Olympic Medals next year.

Btw, i think most of "the French" don't give a flying fart about Lance Armstrong.
Who the hell cares ?
Even if it was the case, we would just be blaming the blameable. But really, no one cares about that poor walking syringe.


http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4150/fart2stars02.jpg

Kongo Otto
08-26-12, 05:24 AM
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4150/fart2stars02.jpg


:har::har::har::har::har::har:

Jimbuna
08-26-12, 08:38 AM
And now lets wait and see how many of those Olympic Heroes (regardless of the Nation) will still have their Olympic Medals next year.



Quoted for posterity :)