Is this German beer any good? [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

Skybird

07-25-12, 11:07 AM

Don'T know, but looks nasty. Avoid, avoid! Inner cauterizations are imminent!

As good as a good German beer is, as bad a bad German beer is. And bad Weizenbier/Weißbier - it is so sour that you can pickle vegetables in it.

If you want a good German Weißbier, Schöfferhofen is good, also Erdinger. Famous brands over here.

My taste Weizenbier is not. I use it only for Pizza dough.

HunterICX

07-25-12, 11:09 AM

Tell them to send you a keg of Weihenstephaner instead. :03:

I've had some Grafenwalder Pils in the past...I recall it more as something to wash away your supper on a hot summer night but nothing special.

And in form of a keg for home use, I'm not sure if I would be happy with those.
I've had one of those Heineken Kegs and suprisingly it tasted even worse then what comes in bottle :rotfl2:

HunterICX

sidslotm

07-25-12, 11:31 AM

Most quality European beers don't seem to travel well, the beers that end up in cans are brewed for that purpose and have longer a shelf life. The only real way to get the taste as it should be, is on a brewery guided tour. I highly recommend this to all humans that can read this, heh.

Takeda Shingen

07-25-12, 11:50 AM

Tell them to send you a keg of Weihenstephaner instead. :03:

I don't know if he can get a keg, but that is still on the short list of my favorite beers. :up:

nikimcbee

07-25-12, 12:33 PM

What happen to Newcastle BA, did you drink it all?

TarJak

07-25-12, 10:35 PM

He and Kratos went out on the lash last night and emptied all the stocks in Northumberland.

@Jim that keg is filled with nasty liquid usually found in toilet bowls. IIRC Aldi sells it cheap in bulk.

Catfish

07-26-12, 02:56 AM

"Grafenwalder" is an Aldi brand. It is not bad, but there are better ones if you want to go for "Weissbier".

There are several good ones but i do not know which you have there. Some good ones (sorry for not mentioning every one, must be hundreds lol):

Schoeffershofer
Schneider
Erdinger
Weihenstefan
Alpirsbacher

Those "Weissbiere" are top-fermented beers made of wheat, and they are great in the summer. There are "Kristall" (filtered) and "Hefe" (unfiltered) wheat beers, and they now even come in a non-alcohol variety. In Germany the Kristall type is often served with a slice of lemon, and in Bavaria with some grains of rice to help keeping the foam down. There are also special "Weissbier" glasses of 1/2 litre content (appx. a pint) with a special form.

Regarding beer .. when i was there the only drinkable real beer in England was what they sold as "Lager", the english beers and ales were not what the rest of the world would call a beer. They have their merits, but it seems the roman invasion and cultural development did not reach that far .. :O:

Remembering my time in England they had german wine called "Liebfraumilch" in the stores (and only this german "wine") which is a sheer atrocity - you do not find such stuff in Germany anymore since the 1950ies, and i was really astonished what passes as german wine there. Must be a propaganda thing to import such stuff lol.

When being in Coventry a friend of ours had made beer himself, he was astonished we managed to empty it within the first hours sans visiting a pub. Indeed this self-made stuff was much better :D

Greetings,
Catfish

Jimbuna

07-26-12, 04:51 AM

I must say I am very impressed with the feedback and as such I've taken one @ £8 for a five litre keg.

I may well regret it but at that price my curiosity has got the better of me.

I'll 'try' to consume it on Sunday and will be sure to report back here.

You may want to spare a thought for my tight fisted younger brother...he took the other two :D

Tis now in the garage 'cooling' :03:

Paco

07-26-12, 05:58 AM

uh,

Grafenwalder..... :hmph:

A cheap supermarket-beer, sold in PET-bottles 0.5l (0,29 Euro - 0,35 Euro) and cans 5l (3,99 Euro - 4,99 Euro). :nope: Could be a dishwater, but discussions about beer are always a matter of taste...

Found a test on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBoGmLVyinU

Skybird

07-26-12, 08:47 AM

When it comes to regular beer (no Weizen, but normal Pils), there is just Warsteiner or Veltins, with Bitburger and maybe Krombacher in close third and forth place. :up:

And icecold, please. And when I say "icecold", I mean "icecold", especially on hot summer days. Nothing worse than a Pils that is handwarm.

Very nice also is to mix it for a socalled "Radler", which is 50% beer and 50% sweet citron lemonade, and very cold. When doing a tour in summer and being exhausted and dripping with sweat, it is like winning a ticket for paradise. :D The cold refreshes, the sugar revitalises, and the lil' alcohol relaxes, but you do not get drunk, and all this in an isotonic drink. :yeah:

Herr-Berbunch

07-26-12, 09:19 AM

When it comes to regular beer (no Weizen, but normal Pils), there is just Warsteiner or Veltins, with Bitburger and maybe Krombacher in close third and forth place. :up:

Wobbly and Bitburger are nice, never had the other two though. If any Germans (or Dutch) are visiting our fair shores soon. . . :hmmm:

And I totally agree with you on temperature, lager beers should be cold, bitter beers should be in the middle, and red wine should be warmed (and decanted and left to 'breathe').

Shandy, an isotonic drink. :har:

Skybird

07-26-12, 09:37 AM

I hate warm wine also, no matter how much it costed. Not icecold, but definitely cool. Not more than 8 or 9 °C.

The Kendermann label offers a good range of German wines, and they taste good and are neither sour nor candysweet even when the price per bottle is in the lower, affordable segment (they have expensive ones, too, but I never tasted an argument for spending that much money). German wines still seem to have a not so good reputation internaitonally, especially the red ones, but I think that is undeserved. You just need to know good choices, and must be willing to pay mabe 5 Euros per bottle instead of just 2. More than 5 Euros per bottle I could not afford, but also would not be willing to pay even if I had the money. Considering what wine-lovers will to pay, 5 Euros still rates as a very cheap wine. But I taste a differenc ebetween a 2 Euro and a good 5 Euro wine. I do not taste a differences between 5 Euro and 25 Euro wines.

Maybe I am just a barbar. :D

Kendermann Grauburgunder trocken currently is one of my favourites, served not icecold, but cool. The hotter the day, the more it refreshes. 5 Euros.

Jimbuna

07-26-12, 10:09 AM

I'm currently into this little fruity number @ £4 per bottle at my local ASDA

Black Tower Silvaner Chardonnay

http://groceries.asda.com/asda-estore/catalog/sectionpagecontainer.jsp?skuId=910000552838&departmentid=1214921923747&aisleid=1214921926153&startValue=

http://i1-groceries.asda.com/g/014/851/4069600014851_21000_IDShot_2.jpeg

TarJak

07-27-12, 08:06 AM

http://www.ad-design.biz/ADBnew/$2BuckChuck.gif

mookiemookie

07-27-12, 08:40 AM

http://www.ad-design.biz/ADBnew/$2BuckChuck.gif

Yeesh. I've had Charles Shaw. There's a good reason it's only $2.00.

STEED

07-27-12, 09:13 AM

Is this German beer any good?

No it's like making love in a rowing boat.

* close to water. :har:

Jimbuna

07-27-12, 10:45 AM

No it's like making love in a rowing boat.

* close to water. :har:

Haw haw :D

My head on Monday morning will be a fair indicator :hmm2:

Catfish

07-28-12, 06:09 AM

All waiting in anticippppppation for Jim to break the keg ... :D

Jimbuna

07-28-12, 02:23 PM

All waiting in anticippppppation for Jim to break the keg ... :D

Tomorrow :03:

CCIP

07-28-12, 03:07 PM

Tell them to send you a keg of Weihenstephaner instead. :03:

I don't know if he can get a keg, but that is still on the short list of my favorite beers. :up:

Agreed entirely :yep:

If you like German wheat beers, can't go wrong with that one :up:

Schroeder

07-29-12, 05:45 AM

Tomorrow :03:
Well, it is tomorrow and 11:45 in the UK and no answer from Jim...
I guess we know how well he stomached his keg then.:O:

STEED

07-29-12, 05:52 AM

Well, it is tomorrow and 11:45 in the UK and no answer from Jim...
I guess we know how well he stomached his keg then.:O:

11:50 am

Jim's breakfast

http://beernexus.com/images/1590024_1_.jpg

Jimbuna

07-29-12, 10:45 AM

LOL...the keg has just been brought out of the garage and should be losing its 'virginity' not too long from now :)

Jimbuna

07-29-12, 01:13 PM

The beer is okay, a bit of an acquired taste but I've honestly had worse http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img232/3151/iconbeerhr9.gif

mapuc

07-29-12, 01:23 PM

Swedish beer that can be bought in stores in sweden taste like #¤%¤#

But as I was told - it's not so important how it taste, the important thing is that it can make you drunk.

Markus

Penguin

07-31-12, 04:40 PM

TarJak

07-31-12, 04:51 PM

The beer is okay, a bit of an acquired taste but I've honestly had worse http://imgcash4.imageshack.us/img232/3151/iconbeerhr9.gif

I told you not to drink Fosters :D

Herr-Berbunch

07-31-12, 05:19 PM

Banana juice? :o You are weirder than I thought. :O:

mapuc

07-31-12, 05:32 PM

I think the best way to drink those cheap Weizen beer is to drink it ice cold with some banana juice.
Though one of our local breweries, Uerige also makes a Weizen, afaik the only one in the Rhineland.
If some of you have the chance to get one: try it!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5963/uerigew.jpg

I made the big mistake during my first trip to Sweden to buy beer from the supermarket (lattöl:-?) - guess you could hear my swearing till Denmark :DL
Though I must say that the normal Swedish beer is much better than its reputation, especially Åbro has some pretty yummy brews :()1:

The swedes makes very good beer...that goes abroad. Beermaker have to follow strictly rules. Beer may not be stronger than 2.8 %. Try a Pripps Blå 2.8 % bought in a local swedish store and same beer in a German store. Offcourse in Germany the beer would probably be alot stronger than 2.8 % and it surely will taste alot better.

The danish beer is a totally different stoy.

Markus

Herr-Berbunch

07-31-12, 05:46 PM

The danish beer is a totally different stoy.

'Probably' :up:

(I don't know if only the Brits will get that):hmm2:

Takeda Shingen

07-31-12, 06:05 PM

CCIP

07-31-12, 06:13 PM

You can get a good beer in any country, but you have to know where to look. In the USA, you need to go to the microbreweries.

http://www.thebrewworks.com/bethlehem-brew-works/

This is one of my favorite places. The Steelgaarden Wit is simply to die for. :up:

Right on. In fact you can find great beer in any city, even, you just need to find a brewpub with the right selection. People need to throw the idea that America somehow sucks at beer - so much good stuff everywhere!
European mass-market beer is just as terrible as its US equivalent BTW:O:

Jimbuna

08-01-12, 05:26 AM

I told you not to drink Fosters :D

LOL...my kid brother came round with a couple of cases for my birthday...must have been on a 'special' :)

gimpy117

08-01-12, 12:53 PM

11:50 am

Jim's breakfast

http://beernexus.com/images/1590024_1_.jpg

had one of those last night...only somewhat impressed...had a kinda weird "skunky" taste when you first drank it. I like the local brews here in MI better

Paco

08-01-12, 03:30 PM

Right on. In fact you can find great beer in any city, even, you just need to find a brewpub with the right selection. People need to throw the idea that America somehow sucks at beer - so much good stuff everywhere!
European mass-market beer is just as terrible as its US equivalent BTW:O:

:up:

Kongo Otto

08-17-12, 07:24 AM

Weißbier with Banajuice? In some places in Upper bavaria you would be stoned for such heinous crime!!
Btw it's called Weißbier and not Weizenbier!!

And if you have the slightest chance to get one of these:
http://brauerei-karg.swhosting8.de/media/images/common/hefeweissbier.png
then drink it.
That's the best Weißbier available on this Planet. Everything else is just Bier. :03:

And the best Place to drink Weißbier is at places like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxfOT83gu0c

Weißbier with Bananajuice, unbelievable! :O:

Tribesman

08-17-12, 09:27 AM

(I don't know if only the Brits will get that):hmm2:
It reaches the Micks too:03:

Herr-Berbunch

08-17-12, 10:27 AM

It reaches the Micks too:03:

I thought it might, but didn't want to be accused of racism or stereotyping by calling all bog-trotters Micks. :O:

Anyone know where I can get Erdinger Weissbrau retail in the UK? Had some the other day and it's lovely!

Jimbuna

08-17-12, 11:58 AM

I thought it might, but didn't want to be accused of racism or stereotyping by calling all bog-trotters Micks. :O:

Anyone know where I can get Erdinger Weissbrau retail in the UK? Had some the other day and it's lovely!

http://www.beerhere.co.uk/acatalog/Erdinger_wheat_beers.html?gclid=CN27mteQ77ECFVMdtA odvRwA8Q

Tribesman

08-18-12, 01:42 AM

I thought it might, but didn't want to be accused of racism or stereotyping by calling all bog-trotters Micks.
You foriegners are behind the times, its bog-wogs now when you talk about Paddy.

Julhelm

08-18-12, 07:56 AM

The swedes makes very good beer...that goes abroad. Beermaker have to follow strictly rules. Beer may not be stronger than 2.8 %. Try a Pripps Blå 2.8 % bought in a local swedish store and same beer in a German store. Offcourse in Germany the beer would probably be alot stronger than 2.8 % and it surely will taste alot better.

The danish beer is a totally different stoy.

Markus
Not true. It is the supermarkets who are not allowed to sell alcohol over 3.5%. You can in fact buy proper beer like everwhere else but you have to go to one of the state alcohol stores - 'Systembolaget'. They tend to stock a pretty decent selection of lagers, weissbiers, and microbrews.

sidslotm

08-18-12, 03:04 PM

I don't know if this is true, but four strong beers and it will sound great :har:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMwyy1xMjQ&playnext=1&list=PLF8B7DEC11001DB3C&feature=results_video

Penguin

08-20-12, 07:34 AM

Weißbier with Banajuice? In some places in Upper bavaria you would be stoned for such heinous crime!!
Btw it's called Weißbier and not Weizenbier!!

That's why I am happy to live in the free state of NRW where we are allowed to do any beer-perversions we like! :O:

The general superiority of the Rhineland, not only over Bavaria but over most of the rest of the world can be seen that our usual glass contains only 0.2 liters.
"Why is a small glass superior?", the unknowingly reader might ask.
Easy answer: When we sit in a pub, especially outside in the summer, we always have a cold brew. The Bavarians, with their big Maß glass, have to sip the stale and warm rest when they don't do speed-drinking. :sunny:

And if you have the slightest chance to get one of these:

then drink it.
That's the best Weißbier available on this Planet. Everything else is just Bier. :03:

And the best Place to drink Weißbier is at places like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxfOT83gu0c

Weißbier with Bananajuice, unbelievable! :O:

To my defense, I only said it improves the cheap Weizen, in Lidl-Plörre you can put in crude oil and it would better its taste. :know:

Regarding Karg:
10 points go to Bavaria for still offereing the brew in the glory old bottlle form, a form which fits perfectly into a man's hand - unlike those pansy Eu-bottles...
A minus point though for not having a wooden table on their own when they too the beer pic (obvious photoshop)

Will look out for it - or you can just send me a case, I promise I'll drink the first bottle without banana juice! :D

Kongo Otto

08-22-12, 04:28 AM

That's why I am happy to live in the free state of NRW where we are allowed to do any beer-perversions we like! :O:
Blasphemy!! :D

The general superiority of the Rhineland, not only over Bavaria but over most of the rest of the world can be seen that our usual glass contains only 0.2 liters.
"Why is a small glass superior?", the unknowingly reader might ask.
Easy answer: When we sit in a pub, especially outside in the summer, we always have a cold brew. The Bavarians, with their big Maß glass, have to sip the stale and warm rest when they don't do speed-drinking. :sunny:
The Rhineland general superiority over Bavaria?
Not in this Universe! Saupreiß japanischer!!! :haha:
(Hey we have to keep the tradition up) :haha:
Well i have to admit that the Kölsch you have up there in NRW is really good beer and therefore the small glasses are ok. :up:
But also remember the former bavarian PM Beckstein who said "5 Steins is not drunk!" :haha:

Kongo Otto

08-22-12, 04:47 AM

Not true. It is the supermarkets who are not allowed to sell alcohol over 3.5%. You can in fact buy proper beer like everwhere else but you have to go to one of the state alcohol stores - 'Systembolaget'. They tend to stock a pretty decent selection of lagers, weissbiers, and microbrews.

That's a system i don't understand at all.
Why must i go in a Liquor Store in the US or a Systembolaget in Sweden?
What's the reason for this system?
Here in Germany i go to the local Supermarket and pick my stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8cF3PmDLPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq8b-6GT_Rs

Penguin

08-22-12, 06:24 AM

Blasphemy!! :D

The Rhineland general superiority over Bavaria?
Not in this Universe! Saupreiß japanischer!!! :haha:
(Hey we have to keep the tradition up) :haha:
Well i have to admit that the Kölsch you have up there in NRW is really good beer and therefore the small glasses are ok. :up:
But also remember the former bavarian PM Beckstein who said "5 Steins is not drunk!" :haha:

not only over Bavaria, but the rest of the world... :O:
And we are only under temporary Prussian occupation
(well since 1815 :-?)
For better Rhinish beer than *ölsch, you should have travelled the 40 km up north, in the really free zone where you get Alt :yep:

That's a system i don't understand at all.
Why must i go in a Liquor Store in the US or a Systembolaget in Sweden?
What's the reason for this system?
Here in Germany i go to the local Supermarket and pick my stuff.

The results are positive: You see no drunks on the street, no alcoholism, binge-drinking is virtually unknown - just like preching sexual abstinence prevents pregnancy...:88)

In the US however, the laws vary from state to state, not all have liquor shops, some have it only for hard stuff (like in the other Nordic countries besides Sweden)
The most crazy thing about Systembolaget is not only that you can't buy cold beer, you can only buy single containers. So when you want to throw a party, you don't grab some cases of beer like in Germany, you buy 8 million single bottles and put them in 7 million bags...
(numbers may vary:03:)

Herr-Berbunch

08-22-12, 06:34 AM

The results are positive: You see no drunks on the street, no alcoholism, binge-drinking is virtually unknown - just like preching sexual abstinence prevents pregnancy...:88)

I've been a binge-drinking drunk on the streets in Germany. :yeah: No, wait, sorry that was the Netherlands, Roermond :woot:. In Germany I was more restrained, probably because I had further to get back to bed!

The good thing was, I didn't get pregnant. :up:

Julhelm

08-22-12, 08:46 AM

The most crazy thing about Systembolaget is not only that you can't buy cold beer, you can only buy single containers. So when you want to throw a party, you don't grab some cases of beer like in Germany, you buy 8 million single bottles and put them in 7 million bags...
(numbers may vary:03:)
That's not true, either. You can in fact buy crates of 24 containers if you want to. The CEO at my former studio used to do that all the time when we met some milestone. The point of the Systembolaget is restrictive alcohol policy. They can in fact refuse to sell you anything if they have reason to believe you will be supplying it to minors, if you are already intoxicated or if you are underage.

Also they have no profit margin, so the high prices here are entirely due to outrageous tax on alcohol which makes it all the more hilarious with all the retards who screech about abolishing the gov't monopoly and allowing the supermarkets to stock alcohol since somehow this would result in cheaper alcohol :D

Sailor Steve

08-22-12, 09:08 AM

Why must i go in a Liquor Store in the US...?
I don't know about other countries, but here in the U.S. the States have autonomy in most matters that concern only themselves. In California or Nevada you can by pretty much anything in the liquor department of any grocery store. Here in Utah grocery stores don't have a liquor department. You can by beer off the shelf, but it's 3.2 beer. Anything stronger has to be purchased at the State Liquor Store. This is not for religious reasons, as some who live here seem to think, nor is it because of concerns about alcohol abuse. It is, pure and simple, so the State government can maintain a monopoly on liquor sales. It's something that the average citizen has no control over, and has to either live with or move somewhere else.

RHR

08-23-12, 01:38 PM

My fav Beer is beer flavored beer...Mmmmmmmmmm Beeer.:Kaleun_Cheers:

joegrundman

08-24-12, 04:24 AM

Rothaus pils FTW

http://beer.suregork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/rothaus_pils-373x600.jpg

best label anyway

antikristuseke

08-24-12, 07:23 AM

I You can by beer off the shelf, but it's 3.2 beer.

There is a misuse of the word beer in this statement.

Wreford-Brown

08-24-12, 07:39 AM

I'm a big fan of Herforder Pils, but unless you're within about 50km of the brewery it's difficult to get hold of.

Veltins is good, and a friend introduced me to Fruh Kolsch (apologies for missing the umlauts) last weekend which also went down well. Friends are visiting this weekend, so I've got a crate of Herfie to sink tonight!