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Dowly
07-24-12, 07:30 AM
Besides James Cameron's '****anic' and 'A Night to Remember', are the other Titanic movies any good? :hmmm:

Garion
07-24-12, 07:45 AM
My favourite version is 'A Night To Remember' It's B/W has no real lovey dovey bits and it's the one I grew up with. :rock:

Cheers

Gary

Dowly
07-24-12, 08:08 AM
Yea, it's a great movie and stays faithful to the survivor accounts I've read. :yep:

kraznyi_oktjabr
07-24-12, 08:11 AM
Besides James Cameron's '****anic' and 'A Night to Remember', are the other Titanic movies any good? :hmmm:Dowly.... what kind of spelling error you did with word 'Titanic' in your original post? :hmmm:

EDIT: Practical test '<censored>'.

EDIT#2: No... wasn't most logical one.

Syxx_Killer
07-24-12, 08:22 AM
The 1953 Titanic wasn't too bad. Don't remember much about it. I haven't seen it in a long time. A Night To Remember wasn't bad, either.

The only thing I never liked about the old movies, and it was quite understandable why, is they always show the vessel sinking in one piece. If only one of them could have stepped out on a limb and showed the breakup.

Dowly
07-24-12, 08:41 AM
Dowly.... what kind of spelling error you did with word 'Titanic' in your original post? :hmmm:

EDIT: Practical test '<censored>'.

EDIT#2: No... wasn't most logical one.

Fecal matter

@Syxx_Killer

Only after the Titanic was found in 1985 did the theory of a break-up become popular. Most survivors
said the ship went under intact.

Oberon
07-24-12, 09:10 AM
What about 'Raise the Titanic'?!

No-one?

No?

I'll get my coat...

Betonov
07-24-12, 09:10 AM
Liked Titanic: blood and steel. It aired on our TV in april and I only caught glimps of it. But it deals with the ships construction and the people involved.

Herr-Berbunch
07-24-12, 09:31 AM
. . . it deals with the ships construction and the people involved.

Construction - that would be the hand-fitted iron rivets that some say were the reason for the sinking. I'm not blaming the labourers, they only did what they were told. And hindsight is a wonderful thing. :yep:

Betonov
07-24-12, 09:36 AM
Construction - that would be the hand-fitted iron rivets that some say were the reason for the sinking. I'm not blaming the labourers, they only did what they were told. And hindsight is a wonderful thing. :yep:

I believe it was the iron that became brittle in cold. But then again, rivets were also iron. It was a mistake made by designers and managers.
I'm surprised the whole thing was not built of steel, it was mass produced in those times IIRC.

kraznyi_oktjabr
07-24-12, 10:07 AM
I watched documentary long time ago where they made "what if" plays. They explored that construction method and while they agreed that it wasn't perfect - it was still state of the art of its time.

What I find interesting (also from that documentary) is that Titanic's original design had lifeboat seat for every passenger. There was larger number of davits and each davit had more than one boat. In addition to those there were collapsible lifeboats in bridge roof as back up (those were retained in final design). White Star Line dismissed that design, if I remember correctly reasons were: 1) it looked bad, 2) those boats blocked first class passengers sea views and 3) it was excessive to what was required by law.

Syxx_Killer
07-24-12, 10:22 AM
@Syxx_Killer

Only after the Titanic was found in 1985 did the theory of a break-up become popular. Most survivors
said the ship went under intact.

I realize that. That's why I said it was understandable. Those accounts is why the breakup is such a popular topic to debate on just about every documentary about the ship. How could so many people say the ship never broke up given that it would have been such a violent event? We'll never know. In the meantime, every person on TV feels they have to say something about the breakup, ad nauseum, in those documentaries. :88)

Buddahaid
07-24-12, 10:49 AM
I believe it was the iron that became brittle in cold. But then again, rivets were also iron. It was a mistake made by designers and managers.
I'm surprised the whole thing was not built of steel, it was mass produced in those times IIRC.

It was a gamble to use cheaper iron to cut costs and the innocent paid with their lives. That's not a mistake but a decision based on profits and the unlikelyhood of meeting just such a disaster. Still happens all the time.

Garion
07-24-12, 11:02 AM
What about 'Raise the Titanic'?!

No-one?

No?

I'll get my coat...

It's a shame about this film... I love the Book and Clive Cussler stories albiet formulated do take yoo on a rip roaring adventure. He has NOT had any luck with Hollywoods attemps to bring his books to the screen, I refuse to watch Sahara. I mean if they can't get the main character 'Dirk Pitt' right, what chance does the film actually have.

Cheers

Gary

mako88sb
07-24-12, 11:38 AM
It's a shame about this film... I love the Book and Clive Cussler stories albiet formulated do take yoo on a rip roaring adventure. He has NOT had any luck with Hollywoods attemps to bring his books to the screen, I refuse to watch Sahara. I mean if they can't get the main character 'Dirk Pitt' right, what chance does the film actually have.

Cheers

Gary


I made the mistake of watching it and came close to clawing my eyes out at the absurd ending. Not that the rest was any better.

TLAM Strike
07-24-12, 11:39 AM
I liked the one with Dr. Who at Christmas.

:O:

Biggles
07-24-12, 12:03 PM
There are two animated once who, as far as I can understand...aren't too....euhm.....good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXdCzfvH_d8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLjDy6AyBcA

Beware: The above videos contains a curse-word here and there, and also rapping dogs and talking dolphins.

Oberon
07-24-12, 12:22 PM
rapping dogs and talking dolphins.

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August
07-24-12, 12:25 PM
What about 'Raise the Titanic'?!

No-one?

No?

I'll get my coat...


I read the book. Written by Clive Cussler. But the movie was pretty good too.

nikimcbee
07-24-12, 12:27 PM
I think what Dowly meant was "Are there any other Titanic movies with Kate Winslet (or Kiera:D) nekkid?"

Oberon
07-24-12, 03:19 PM
I read the book. Written by Clive Cussler. But the movie was pretty good too.

I must admit, I did enjoy it too, been ages since I last saw it though. Haven't read the book though, might have to borrow it from Nagy, I think he might have it, he has a lot of Cussler novels. :yep:

Dowly
07-24-12, 03:36 PM
Think I'll check "Raise the Titanic" then. :hmmm:

sidslotm
07-25-12, 12:06 PM
I read some where that if the ship had hit the iceberg head on, she would have survived the impact. Also, I know there has been much talk about building methods and rivit quality, but I wonder if a modern ship today would survive the same impact, who knows

Betonov
07-25-12, 12:15 PM
It's not how hard you hit something, it's how many compartments you flood.
A head on collision would result in the front two compartments completely destroyed and the third one flooded (rough guess) and the ship won't submerge enough to have water overflowing into dry compartments (like it happened in 1912).
But who knows. Maybe she had another design flaw when a head on collision would bend the entire superstructure that would allow all other compartments to flood.

And modern ships can survive head on collision. Stockholm did when it hit Andrea Doria in 1956

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/07/25/gallery/stockholm.jpg

vienna
07-25-12, 12:27 PM
I'm still waiting for the version with a surprise twist ending... :D

...

Dowly
07-25-12, 12:55 PM
Titanic - How it should've ended:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiaJxa0UCg

"I'll never let go." :har:

McBeck
07-25-12, 09:30 PM
Besides James Cameron's '****anic' and 'A Night to Remember', are the other Titanic movies any good? :hmmm:
Loved "a night to remember", but if you can go watch it with the commentary track... There are some great gems in there. During the sinking they said it would look cool if the windows on the bridge would break and the water pour in. That idea was later used in the Cameron version, based on that persons ideas...

McBeck
07-25-12, 09:35 PM
I believe it was the iron that became brittle in cold. But then again, rivets were also iron. It was a mistake made by designers and managers.
I'm surprised the whole thing was not built of steel, it was mass produced in those times IIRC.
Saw a documentary a while back and they tested the plates. They concluded that it was as good quality as could be expected back then.
I think the rivet story is something else... But can't remember the details...

McBeck
07-25-12, 09:39 PM
Titanic - How it should've ended:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiaJxa0UCg

"I'll never let go." :har:
Hahaha

Dowly
07-26-12, 02:34 AM
Loved "a night to remember", but if you can go watch it with the commentary track... There are some great gems in there. During the sinking they said it would look cool if the windows on the bridge would break and the water pour in. That idea was later used in the Cameron version, based on that persons ideas...

Have to check it out with commentary then. :up:

There are a few scenes in ANtR that I recall being recycled in Cameron's version. :yep:

Sailor Steve
07-26-12, 07:07 AM
There are a few scenes in ANtR that I recall being recycled in Cameron's version. :yep:
Well, he stole whole scenes from the 1953 Clifton Webb-Barbara Stanwick version. :dead:

That one was also overblown and schmaltzy, but they did it first and they did it better.

Skybird
07-26-12, 03:58 PM
The franchise of Titanic movies is struck by an incredible chain of bad luck - all the others also ran into an iceberg, and sunk. Rumours are that it even was always one and the same iceberg.